00:00Well, Diana Rossini resigned yesterday from The Athletic.
00:04Yeah.
00:05So, you know, you can interpret whatever happened.
00:09I'm a big believer in Occam's Razor.
00:12Like, it's pretty obvious what happened.
00:15Occam's Razor?
00:16When have you ever used Occam's Razor?
00:20KP likes to use it all.
00:21I brought it up.
00:21He likes to use it all.
00:22That just means it's the obvious.
00:24Yeah.
00:24The simplest explanation is usually Occam's Razor.
00:27I don't even care what happened.
00:28I don't know.
00:30Diana's been a good friend of the show for a long time.
00:32Yeah.
00:32And I, in particular, was close to her about 10 years or so ago.
00:35And she was covering a team.
00:37And she would share a lot of nuggets with me.
00:39And I know this.
00:40That girl works hard.
00:42And I just feel bad.
00:44I do.
00:45I just feel bad for the whole situation.
00:47Why hasn't Vrabel talked about this?
00:49He just wants it to go away.
00:51Well, eventually, he's going to have to talk about it.
00:53Yeah.
00:53He's going to at the NFL Draft.
00:55Yeah.
00:55I mean, he's going to be asked.
00:57He's going to have a very carefully crafted statement.
01:00Like, he's going to downplay it.
01:01He's going to say, you know, like, everything was taken out of context.
01:05We're just friends.
01:05I'll say this.
01:06Right.
01:06I think a lot of people.
01:07Listen, I have no idea what happened to him.
01:09No idea.
01:10I don't think anybody does.
01:11You could assume because the pictures aren't great.
01:12Well, that's an idea.
01:14Well, I don't have a conclusive idea what happened.
01:18But I do know this.
01:19I have no idea what happened.
01:20You might.
01:20Pretty good idea.
01:21I think I kind of know what happened.
01:23That's fair.
01:23If you want to jump to that conclusion, you didn't see it.
01:26No.
01:27I'm just going by the pictures that I've seen.
01:29But I'm going to say this.
01:30And I don't want to be someone that actually defends her.
01:32That girl works hard.
01:33And it's a shame that this all happened.
01:39It's just a shame.
01:40Because I know this.
01:41She doesn't get everything right.
01:42Nobody does.
01:44That girl put a lot of time.
01:45And she, I mean, that girl worked long hours.
01:48Here's the question.
01:49I'm sure she did.
01:50She resigns.
01:52And she was maybe forced to resign.
01:53They're doing an investigation.
01:55Whatever.
01:56Should Mike Vrabel have to resign?
01:59There's a double standard here.
02:00Some people are calling for it.
02:02Some people are calling for at least a one-year suspension.
02:04If you start having, let's just assume what you think happened is true.
02:09Should everybody resign from their jobs if that happens?
02:12Like, I don't think that's true.
02:14I threw out the question.
02:14I'm not saying that he should.
02:16Yeah.
02:17I don't know that Diana had to resign.
02:20Well, there was definitely pressure.
02:21I'm sure she was pressured to resign.
02:23Her boss probably said either resign.
02:25They had their own volition.
02:26I'm guessing her boss said either resign or we're going to fire you.
02:28Well, I think the way, if you read between the lines, her contract was up in June.
02:33Right.
02:33She only had two more months on it.
02:35And they might not have re-signed her because of all of this.
02:38She's just like, I'm just getting out now.
02:39Why answer all your questions?
02:41I don't want to answer your questions.
02:42I think it's invasive.
02:44So I'm just, that's the way I read it.
02:46Well, here's the other thing that there's, if they are having a relationship, how stupid
02:53are you?
02:54Use common sense.
02:55Why are you out in public?
02:56Even though it's a resort, why are you out in public?
02:59I don't understand.
03:00In a hot tub.
03:01What are you doing?
03:02And embracing on a rooftop when nobody else is around.
03:05I mean, there's cameras everywhere.
03:07I don't know.
03:08I mean, what are you doing?
03:09I don't know.
03:09Unless they're just really good friends.
03:11But what I read, it was a pretty exclusive private resort.
03:14I don't care.
03:14There's cameras everywhere.
03:15There's cameras at the freaking White House.
03:16Right.
03:17Yeah, but you didn't.
03:17I mean, come on.
03:17Again, I'm going to defend her because I don't know better.
03:20Yeah.
03:20You didn't.
03:21It's not like they were making out.
03:22They were in a hot tub together.
03:23That is true.
03:24But you know where the story is going to go.
03:26The worst picture is the one with the hands.
03:27Right.
03:27I get it.
03:28I'm not a stupid person.
03:29But it's not like they were making out.
03:31You know where the story is going to go.
03:33Yes.
03:34You know what I mean?
03:35It's at a minimum, really bad optics.
03:38Unless there were three or four other people in the hot tub.
03:41Or in the pool.
03:42Right.
03:43Hanging out with them.
03:44That's different.
03:45But when you're by yourself, what are you doing?
03:47Use your head.
03:49You're going to get caught.
03:50They claim that they were there as part of a group.
03:52But it's hard to find the rest of the group.
03:54In some of the pictures.
03:54They're not in those pictures.
03:56I mean, provide any hiking photo.
04:00I haven't seen one.
04:01Yeah.
04:02I haven't seen one.
04:03I thought Cowherd said it well on why Vrabel maybe hasn't been fired.
04:07Because with Diana, it's an ethical issue.
04:10Right.
04:10With Vrabel, it's strictly moral.
04:12For both of them, it's moral.
04:14But with Diana, it's an ethical thing.
04:15Right.
04:15Professional.
04:16Professionally compromised.
04:18Right.
04:19And, you know.
04:20Yeah.
04:20Like the athletic.
04:21They can't have one of their lead NFL reporters look like she's compromised.
04:29And that's what it looks like from those pictures.
04:31Yeah.
04:32Like, is she doing that with every NFL head coach that she gets scooped from?
04:36Yeah.
04:37We haven't seen pictures.
04:37The one I've seen is with Mike Vrabel.
04:39With Vrabel.
04:39Right.
04:40So, she's not doing that with every NFL coach she gets scoops from.
04:44Right.
04:44So, that's a problem that she's doing it with Mike Vrabel.
04:47That's the assumption.
04:48We don't know.
04:49Was she really making that number, that salary that we saw in the text?
04:53Oh, I don't doubt that.
04:53That's a big salary.
04:54I don't doubt that.
04:55That's a big one.
04:55That's a big one.
04:56I don't doubt that at all.
04:58I mean, she left ESPN for that.
05:00She was doing a pretty good job.
05:01She was right there with Schefter.
05:03I mean, she was up there when she was at ESPN.
05:06Listen, I haven't had interaction with her since the last time she was on the show,
05:10which, I don't know, might have been a couple years ago.
05:11That was a couple years ago, yeah.
05:12A couple years.
05:14But, I just know that years ago, she used to give me tips or, you know, whatever, what's
05:18going on, something about, you know, with the skins or whatever.
05:22Mm-hmm.
05:23But, I just feel bad.
05:25But, whatever.
05:26I mean, she'll get another job.
05:28I don't know.
05:29She'll have to do her own.
05:29She might do her own thing.
05:30Yeah.
05:31She's a big brand.
05:32I mean, she'll be fine.
05:32Do her own podcast or something.
05:33Just looks terrible.
05:35I think what Drab says that Coward said makes sense, that, you know, your reporting job,
05:44if you're crossing a line, you're not being professional, is different than a guy who's
05:50just creeping.
05:51Like, you're not going to fire coaches, generally speaking, unless there's some harassment, like
06:00the, you know, Udoka situation with the Boston Celtics.
06:05Right.
06:05There's, like, workplace harassment.
06:07Right, right, right.
06:07Yeah.
06:07If they started firing people in sports or in any walk of life that were having illicit
06:13affairs, potentially, you'd lose half your workforce at some point.
06:20That's probably true.
06:21But also, Vrabel's boss was in an Asian spot and got busted.
06:26I mean, there is no moral code in New England.
06:29You got the 80-year-old banging the 25-year-old.
06:31You think he's going to bring the hammer down on Mike Vrabel for being in a photo with somebody
06:35holding hands?
06:36I doubt it.
06:36And do we really think he's going to address this at the draft?
06:40I saw a report.
06:41He'll say very little.
06:42That's just the next time he's going to talk.
06:44He'll say very little.
06:45I mean, reporters will ask him.
06:46I mean, he knows he's got to talk about it.
06:47He'll say very little.
06:49He's not going to...
06:50I doubt he admits to anything.
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