00:00We are hearing from an interview with Fox News, President Trump saying that he sees the view as
00:07very close to being over. We would hope that he's right. But do you think that the two sides are
00:13any closer, given that the fail talks in Islamabad seem to hinge on some pretty big gaps in terms of
00:20what Tehran and what Washington wants? So I hope he is right. I hope we are closer.
00:27It would not be surprising that one marathon 21 hour session that did not have a lot of prep time
00:34leading up to it was not successful. It could be a building block for further conversation.
00:39And that appears to be what's going on. That's certainly what's been leaked out in various ways.
00:45For example, the gap between a commitment on three to five years of no nuclear program versus what the
00:53United States was supposedly asking for, which was 20 years. So there's room there to get to
01:00agreement. Also, the talks that Israel is having with Lebanon, not enough, but a start looks to be
01:08an attempt to get us closer to reaching agreement. But we've been here before and not been able to
01:15close the deal. Do you see the potential for major compromises on either side? We know that
01:22for Iran's side, the naval blockade is obviously going to have significant economic consequences
01:28if it continues. But we also have talked about in the past about this being a regime that's built
01:32and now doubled down for survival. Are they likely to let go of these nuclear ambitions?
01:39No, they're not likely to let go of them entirely. It seems, again, if the reporting is correct,
01:45that what the Trump team was asking for was not a forever commitment. It was a generational
01:52commitment of 20 years. But they, Iran might well see that as a negotiating position. In terms of
01:58compromise, to get to any kind of deal in every negotiation, both sides need to give. And both sides
02:05need to feel like they've gotten something from the deal, the agreement in the end. And I would
02:13expect that that dynamic is at play. As you noted, Iran has already showed that they've had a lot of
02:21experience in asymmetric warfare, and they're continuing to use that to their advantage. And
02:26even what's happening in the Strait of Hormuz is not entirely clear in terms of what the United States
02:32is able to stop, what Iran is doing there, and the risk of greater confrontation is high.
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