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02:36Υπότιτλοι AUTHORWAVE, έχουν μάθει κάποια στρατημία του στρατήριου της παρουσίας.
02:43Ειδικά, η καταστρατημία της σας μάθειστηκε της αρκείς της γιατίας του 2023,
02:48αλλά και γυρίζει ακόμη και πιο σκόμα.
02:52Τι έχουν εξαιρετικά πάντα στον πίστη σας?
02:55Στρατημία του στρατήριου της στρατημίας της αρκετός της αρκής του πρόσιας της αρκετής της παρουσίας της Αρκετής του Διευκτήρου.
03:05έτρε cat Mostly over all state policy
03:09Es and yes,
03:10we see intensification of settler terror for the last two years,
03:15more specifically in the last three months.
03:19I just received a report on settler attacks for the month of March last month
03:25and there were 3,000 attacks,
03:29a bit over 3,000 attacks,
03:34στους dell' Tah masksẹ ded.
03:36Он These attacks come in various forms and shapes.
03:39It's no longer going out and being stopped by a settler,
03:44these settlers had coming to our homes.
03:46They were attacking us in our homes, in our backyards.
03:49They looted homes.
03:51They burn trees.
03:53They burn the yards.
03:54They burn vehicles.
03:56They stone our children,
03:58And they are very much supported by the Israeli occupation forces.
04:04I mean, those occupation forces have an obligation to protect the occupied.
04:11But what we see is they either look and do nothing
04:16or they are engaged in the actual terror attacks.
04:20And this needs to be stopped. It's very serious.
04:23A few days ago, the army chief in Israel, Eyal Zamir, denounced the attacks
04:31and said they had to bring more troops to the West Bank.
04:35So they are short of troops, obviously, with all this war going on at the same time.
04:39And a battalion was actually removed from Lebanon to be sent to the West Bank.
04:44Do you see any improvements in more troops trying to contain the violence or not?
04:50I think this is necessary, but not enough at all, because we need to change the policy.
05:00The policy uses the settlers to terrorize the Palestinians.
05:05That needs to change. It's not enough to talk about it.
05:09It's not enough to call them terrorists.
05:12What we need to see action on the ground to halt whatever these terrorist settlers are doing.
05:19Okay. Now, last month, late last month, as you know, Israel voted to restore the death penalty.
05:28And the text is phrased in such a way that it clearly only addresses the Palestinians
05:33that would have committed fatal terrorist attacks against Israeli Jews.
05:39How did you receive that new law?
05:42Well, again, it's part of a systematic policy of erasing the other.
05:47And this law has no legal base whatsoever.
05:49It's highly discriminatory because it relates to the Palestinians and only the Palestinians.
05:56And the world needs to wonder, I mean, when you see a state that calls itself civilized,
06:04instituting a death penalty law on prisoners of conscience and celebrating the institution of this law.
06:13So this needs to be looked upon with a lot of concern by the whole world.
06:18But if I may, the law stipulates that it is for people, it doesn't say Palestinians, but it's phrased in
06:27a way that it is targeting Palestinians,
06:29that are guilty and charged of having committed a fatal terrorist attack, of having killed a Jewish citizen.
06:37So these are particular prisoners.
06:39Yes, but our people have been killed for decades.
06:42OK.
06:43I mean, we have been subjected to death penalty by the Israelis for decades.
06:49The extrajudicial killing on our streets continue.
06:53What needs to happen is to look at the occupation and the root causes of this occupation
06:58and see what entitlements people have under occupation.
07:04What struggle, how they can struggle against that occupation and deal with it accordingly.
07:10Death penalty is something that is abolished all over the world.
07:14OK.
07:15Now, moving to the future of Palestinian statehood, are you watching the Israeli election that will take place in October
07:232026?
07:24In other words, are you hoping there will be a new Israeli administration that you can talk to to resume
07:30some kind of dialogue?
07:31Of course, we always hope for a new new faces and new policy so that we can come to terms
07:38with the fact that we need to go to the root cause and start genuinely talking about it.
07:43We haven't seen this in the past Israeli governments because the policy has been the same.
07:49The policy has not changed.
07:51Israeli policy is expansionist.
07:52It's colonialist.
07:54It's annexationist.
07:55It's annexationist.
07:55And they say it very clearly until they come to terms with the fact that for them to be in
08:01the area and for us to live in peace and security as neighbors,
08:05they have to respect the rights of the neighbors, the Palestinians.
08:09And these rights are enshrined in international law.
08:12We're not asking anything above international law.
08:15Last but not least, you know, under the Netanyahu's administration and Trump's administration,
08:22Jerusalem was the next.
08:23So here goes the idea of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.
08:29Sedlin activity has gone, you know, has increased a lot under Netanyahu.
08:37How do you see that, you know, for future talks now that, you know, and as we know, the UN
08:43and international order and law is not exactly the reference anymore.
08:47It's been shunned left, right and center.
08:49So are you ready to water down your expectations?
08:53I mean, how do you see things happening if and when a dialogue resumes?
08:58If and when a dialogue resumes, that dialogue needs to follow the parameters of the two state solution and nothing
09:04but international law, albeit that international law is under a lot of threat.
09:08I mean, the compass needs to be international law, even if it's under threat.
09:14And we will continue asking to work by the parameters of the Madrid conference, the New York Declaration, the rights
09:22of the Palestinian people as enshrined in international law.
09:25And then when we come to terms, if a peace agreement is forged, then other areas can be negotiated, but
09:32not before the acknowledgement of Palestinian rights on their state as enshrined by international law on the 1967 lines.
09:41Can East Jerusalem be negotiated?
09:44East Jerusalem is part and parcel of occupied territory as per international law.
09:48And as such, we need to deal with it as occupied territory.
09:51Okay.
09:52But you understand that in Gaza, when the settlements were removed under Sharon, there were 8,000 settlers at the
10:01time.
10:02In the West Bank, there are 500,000.
10:05And if you include East Jerusalem, 700,000.
10:08Are you seriously, and I'm sorry, hoping that, you know, this settlement will be dismantled to make way for a
10:16Palestinian state?
10:16Is it realistic in other words?
10:18It has to be realistic.
10:20If it was realistic to displace 750,000 Palestinian refugees in 1948, and this was accepted by the world, it
10:30would be much easier to remove 750,000 illegal settlers living on stolen Palestinian land.
10:38They have Israel, they can go back to Israel proper, if there is genuine intent of peace.
10:44And if there's genuine intent of peace, negotiations can take place afterwards, after the two parties say, this is Israel,
10:53and this is Palestine.
10:54And some border modifications can be negotiated, but not before the recognition of the rights of the Palestinian people.
11:02Can you give me one concession that the Palestinians would be able to make to the Israeli if and when
11:11negotiations were given?
11:13One concession that the Palestinians would be willing to make to the Israelis?
11:16I think the question should be reversed. The question needs to go to the Israeli side. The Palestinians have made
11:22numerous concessions in the last seven decades, and they have conceded 78% of historic Palestine.
11:29What we're asking for is to recognize our state, materialize the state on the 22%. It is Israel that needs
11:37to come forward.
11:38But as I said, if there is a genuine intent on peace, matters can be negotiated, but they need to
11:45be negotiated in good faith.
11:47Well, I guess you'll be watching the U.S. elections as well in 2028.
11:52Yes.
11:52That's a game changer.
11:53Thank you, Minister. Thanks for being with us today.
11:55You're welcome.
11:57Thank you.
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