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00:20Now, in this special edition of Frontline,
00:23two stories in collaboration with ProPublica.
00:26First...
00:27Temporary protected status expired for more than 250,000 Venezuelans.
00:32Venezuelans will lose protection from being deported.
00:34We will begin the process of returning millions and millions
00:38of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came.
00:42A Venezuelan family's uncertain future.
00:45Those who supported President Trump are now saying they feel lied to and betrayed.
00:50Beyond betrayed. They used us.
00:52Facing risk of deportation.
00:54I feel nothing's safe.
00:57And later...
00:58The Trump administration deported hundreds of Venezuelans, it says,
01:02are members of a notorious gang.
01:04The first-hand accounts of Venezuelans sent by the U.S. to a notorious prison in El Salvador.
01:10They said,
01:11Welcome to the Seco Center of Confermemento del Terrorista.
01:13They are going to die.
01:14These two stories on this special edition of Frontline.
01:17Over the last edition of Frontline.
01:27Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
01:32Happy birthday to the browns.
01:34I'm so sweet.
01:35I'm so sweet.
01:36I'm so sweet.
01:37I'm so sweet.
01:38I'm so sweet.
01:39I'm so sweet.
01:40I'm so sweet.
01:41Thank you, my love.
01:43I love you.
01:46I'm so sweet.
01:49We're going to get the water.
01:52Let's go to the water.
01:54Yes.
01:58Alexa, you can't get your birthday,
02:00and you're going to be a solana.
02:02Here you have that beautiful night.
02:32I hope that God keeps giving us life and health
02:35so that we keep staying.
02:36And that everything that we have in plan
02:39will be fulfilled.
02:40Amen.
02:41That's the blessing of God.
02:42I'm so sweet.
02:43I'm so sweet.
02:44Amen.
02:45Amen.
02:46Amen.
02:47Amen.
02:48Amen.
02:49Amen.
02:50Amen.
02:51Amen.
02:52Amen.
02:53Amen.
02:54Amen.
02:55Amen.
02:56Amen.
02:57Amen.
02:58Amen.
02:59Amen.
03:00Amen.
03:01Amen.
03:05Amen.
03:06нав könnten
03:08Ciao minimum.
03:11Amen.
03:12And the Biden administration announced a temporary ne 20
03:15strategy of pride and an attempt to properly address the
03:16migrant crisis.
03:17It is our responsibility to build safe, lawful and humane
03:20pathways that create opportunities for them.
03:21Hello Doral, I love Doral, hello Miami and hello Florida.
03:31It is now official, CNN projects that Donald Trump has been elected president.
03:36Trump won 61% of Doral, home to the largest Venezuelan American population in the US.
03:42On the Doral area, they call it little Venezuela.
03:46It's an incredible community and I like them and they like me.
03:50Trump is starting his second turn with a hard stance on immigration.
03:55President Trump ends the Biden era humanitarian program.
03:58Officers can prioritize for rapid deportations of migrants who arrived under the program.
04:06TPS was only supposed to be used in times of war, storm or destruction in the home countries
04:12of these migrants.
04:13It was completely abused.
04:16Venezuelans who are living legally in Doral, Florida, are now worried.
04:20Those who supported President Trump during the election, now saying they feel lied to and
04:26betrayed.
04:27Breakfast at 난imsa N이라.
04:29Liberta.
04:30Ioan Betrayij.
04:31Hong Kong.
04:32FENDSURA CALIBIA llegó.
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04:40We have visualized our future here.
04:44Everyone is calling us illegal, even though we are stopped.
04:50I'm going to do everything that we legally should do
04:53to be able to stay here in the United States,
04:55for my children.
05:10I stopped because I called myself,
05:12but if not, I'm going to do it.
05:15And what age do you have to tell me?
05:17I have to be at 3.30am in the warehouse.
05:19And you can't leave me on the bike,
05:21because you don't know if you're going to go straight from there.
05:25I don't know how I'm going to prepare this chicken.
05:27I don't know.
05:29If Venezuela had been in the same conditions
05:33as when I was a child,
05:35I wouldn't have gone with my children.
05:38My infancy and my adolescence were very happy.
05:43When I got married, Sebastian had 22 years old.
05:46And almost two years later, Gabriel was born.
05:49My son of my son.
05:54I felt the situation was strong in Venezuela.
05:59The growing criminalization that affects the country
06:01adds a profound amount of food.
06:04All of the apagones intensifies
06:06pese a las medidas de racionamiento eléctrico
06:07que vienen de aquí.
06:11Yo recuerdo eso de los ocho años.
06:13Se empezó la luz, el agua, el gas.
06:16Teníamos que empezar a hacer cola por comida.
06:19Mucha persecución política.
06:21Ya tú no podías decir nada en contra del gobierno.
06:23Disturbios en una nueva jornada de protestas en Venezuela
06:26contra el presidente Nicolás Maduro.
06:28Todo eso me causó mucho miedo porque mis hijos estaban creciendo.
06:36Comecé a trabajar en el aeropuerto de Valencia
06:39y cuando ganó un gobernador afecto al gobierno,
06:42yo dejé de trabajar allí.
06:45Que le demos un gigantesco aplauso
06:48a nuestro presidente Nicolás Maduro,
06:50que es quien nos tiene aquí.
06:54Gracias, presidente.
06:57Si estás trabajando allí,
06:59es algo obligatorio apoyar al gobierno
07:02y decir que el pueblo los está apoyando.
07:08En el 2020 comencé mi relación con Eduard.
07:11Desde el día uno nos tomó como hijos de él.
07:15Abrimos una carnicería.
07:16A pesar de que no nos diera,
07:19a él se le ofrece la oportunidad
07:20de venirse para Estados Unidos.
07:22Pero una vez que él se viene,
07:24la situación comenzó a ponerse más difícil.
07:31En ese momento estaba la frontera de México
07:33con Estados Unidos abierta.
07:35Eso era lo que se escuchaba.
07:37Mis padres me dijeron váyase por sus hijos.
07:41Gabriel tenía 13 años,
07:43Sebastián 14 y mi sueño 22.
07:49Donde yo iba a llegar era acá en Miami
07:51porque acá estaba Eduard.
07:56La ruta es atravesar la selva de Darien
07:58hasta llegar a Panamá.
08:12El lugar era muy peligroso.
08:16Personas se les fallecían.
08:17Tenían que enterrarlos ahí mismo en la selva
08:19o dejar sus cuerpos allí y avanzar.
08:22En un país nos costó tanto como cuando llegamos a México.
08:34Nos enteramos que había cerrado la frontera.
08:37Hoy en día, mi administración
08:38está tomando varios pasos
08:39para la defensa.
08:40No solo aparezca en la frontera.
08:43Estás donde estás y aplica legalmente desde allí.
08:45Ya estábamos agotados.
08:47Ya no nos quedaba dinero.
08:52Cuando ya siento que el agua me está llegando al cuello,
08:54se implementa lo del parol humanitario para el venezolano.
09:00Y ya el 7 de abril ya estaba aquí.
09:04Comenzamos una nueva vida.
09:06Comenzamos una nueva vida.
09:36A la vida está en el que se missa.
09:37¡Nos vemos!
09:38¡A la vida está en la tumba!
09:39¡A la vida está en las tentaciones!
09:40Oh!
09:41Oh!
09:45Oh!
09:49Oh!
09:56Oh!
09:58Oh!
10:01Heels flash怎么了!
10:06Whoa!
10:09At first, everything was so beautiful.
10:12I did it. I was here.
10:14If I could.
10:15And it was so incredible.
10:17Now, adapt.
10:19These are not your rules.
10:21These are the rules of here.
10:23Lourdes.
10:24You're coming across the avenue.
10:26Cierra ahí, please.
10:30Gira to the left in South West End Street.
10:35When I arrived, I did a lot of things on my trip
10:38and my income started to help me pay, pay, pay.
10:44I work in a package company.
10:47Ahorita, at 2.30am, it's the hour of entry.
10:51And there's always a person.
10:56It cost me so much to make my work permit.
10:59I was working legally.
11:01I've never been dependent on the government,
11:07because I don't want to be a charge.
11:09I have hmores.
11:10It's not a person that has to be a charge.
11:11I'm not a person.
11:12I'm not done.
11:13I'm not an employee.
11:14I'm working.
11:15I have to work.
11:18I'm always in Doral.
11:19If we can stay in this country,
11:20I'd like to have my own business to have to be a buyer.
11:23If we are able to stay in this country, I would like to have our own business.
11:38Sebastián, you have to call to Miami Day College.
11:41With respect to what you have.
11:43Yes, I have a F, by the way.
11:45What?
11:46I have all the details, because they changed me from that.
11:50Look.
11:51A, A, A, A, A.
11:53And a F.
12:10Ladies and gentlemen, the President-elect of the United States, the Honorable Donald John Trump.
12:16We will begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came.
12:40Breaking news this morning.
12:41President Donald Trump ends the humanitarian parole program.
12:44Anyone on these programs is going to need to figure out a new status, and if not, they will become undocumented.
12:50We had given the welcome for two years.
12:55To cut you the hope from now to now.
12:58It's like when you're standing up on a roof, you move it suddenly and you fall.
13:03It was an emotional loss for the family.
13:06I need to talk with someone to give me a little bit of peace, because I don't know anyone.
13:19There are four families waiting.
13:24I'm waiting for you.
13:25I'm waiting for you.
13:26I'm waiting for you.
13:27Hello, hello.
13:28Are you going to ask help?
13:29Uh-huh.
13:30You take everything you want.
13:31I just ask you, please.
13:32If you have the option to ask the TPS, ask the TPS.
13:37Because you have the protection of the parole.
13:41You stay under the protection of the TPS.
13:44But you don't stay there.
13:46That's a temporary status.
13:48If you extend it, at any time you're going to remove it.
13:55In your case, you think you qualify for asylum.
13:59You have to justify it.
14:00Because all asylum, after a year of having passed in the U.S.,
14:04is asylum.
14:05And that's what the judge is the first thing to put the eye on.
14:09You go to the court with a plow in an ala.
14:13You go torcido.
14:18You are caller number 14 in the queue.
14:21For Spanish, press 1.
14:23For English, press 2.
14:24You are caller number 14 in the queue.
14:27For Spanish, press 1.
14:28For Spanish, press 1.
14:29For English, press 2.
14:30You are caller number 14 in the queue.
14:33The asylum request was that we couldn't pay for the asylum.
14:36At that time, we couldn't pay for the asylum.
14:37Because we were paying for the rent,
14:39and sending money to our parents.
14:42Please wait for the next available asylum.
14:45But the possible scenarios are, for me, horrible.
14:50I mean...
14:56It has repeated I don't know how many times.
14:58Answer, please.
15:01The party you are trying to reach is busy and cannot take your call.
15:05For a legal assessment on my status with my children here in the country.
15:11Please, as much as possible.
15:14The Trump administration is reversing a Biden-era extension
15:23of the temporary protected status program for Venezuelan migrants.
15:27The move means some Venezuelans with TPS
15:29could be facing deportations as early as two months from now.
15:33Subtitles are clear to see the tab.
15:35With minimalism.
15:36And so, it was a sympathizer.
15:37The police, I think,
15:38It was a very serious man.
15:39An afternoon, when I woke up...
15:46I'd have to imagine that practically all the hope had disappeared.
15:49They were going to fall down.
15:52The police said the cops didn't go to the police.
15:54And that's it.
15:55I still have my parole until April.
16:00In the meantime, the parole and the TPS are...
16:05Two months.
16:16What do you think of what the lawyer told you?
16:19What did you convince me?
16:20It's my fear.
16:22What's your fear?
16:23Like he said, they already have your information.
16:26If they want you to, they're going to look for it.
16:28But if they don't, they don't have it.
16:30Everything that he told me was logical.
16:32Everything.
16:33Before one goes to court,
16:35they can make the order of deportation,
16:38send migration specifically to where one is,
16:41and that's all.
16:44I'm not going to go to Venezuela.
16:48We can extend the TPS.
16:51They can't do it with the TPS.
16:53They can't do it with any other side,
16:54but the TPS, they have the opportunity to grow here.
16:56Like...
16:58So, the ideal is to demand the asylum,
17:00because it is going to be the moment that we are going to be protected.
17:03The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:06They have the people who have come into this country,
17:07they are members of TDA.
17:08The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:13He said that the people who have come to the U.S. in the last years
17:16are members of TDA.
17:18The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:21The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:25The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:30The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:32The people who are members of TDA.
17:33The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:39The people who have come into this country are members of TDA.
17:41He said that certain people have identified the...
17:43That's the majority.
17:44...and they will be removed the benefit of the temporary protection
17:47a quitar el beneficio de protección temporal a más de 300.000 personas que no tienen ni
17:55pie ni cabeza. Los venezolanos americanos, la mayoría votó por President Trump, le dieron
18:02ese regalo que es la confianza. Para Guantánamo pueden enviarle, entonces se hace mucho más
18:07compleja a nivel de debido proceso. De todo, aislamiento completamente. Ahora la Administración
18:14del President Trump está empujando la narrativa de que Venezuela se arregló. Eso es lo que
18:19dice. Por favor, todavía no me cae en la cabeza en qué se basan ellos para decir que la situación
18:26en Venezuela se arregló. No sé.
18:37Ella me llamó ayer y me dijo, si vas a ir a trabajar, ten mucho cuidado porque justamente
18:43aquí en la salida del asiento 29,8. Estaba la policía deteniendo a los vehículos y
18:48los niños estaban en el cuarto. Obviamente no les iba a decir por qué. Son cosas de adultos.
18:56Sentí mucho miedo. Solamente imaginarme la situación. Si me pasaba algo, yo iba a dejar desprotegido.
19:03Y decidí no ir. No fui a trabajar. No fui.
19:06A mí se me olvidó que estaba protegida todavía por el parol, para trabajar legalmente.
19:15Hay cosas que te afectan aunque tú no quieras.
19:29Tú dices, ok, eso no tiene nada que ver conmigo, pero el simple hecho es que yo venezolano.
19:33Ya te doy un terror porque estás aquí en la frente, el carterito y es como que eres uno más del montón.
19:45Gracias por conectarse. Hay que mantener la calma en este momento,
19:49que no quieren hacer que todos estemos en pánico.
19:54Estamos preparando un caso que protege a todos los venezolanos con TPS.
20:01Lo más que podemos ganar es que mantengan su estatus hasta octubre del año 2026.
20:08El hecho de que tienes pendiente una aplicación para asilo no le da protección en contra de la deportación.
20:17Sin atipías, podría ser deportado.
20:19DeSociaEcu symptoms de ley.
20:20Tenemos un caso de C nape de Ciencias Against TPS.
20:34De Buenas Noches de autoridades minorías
20:36other organizations filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration,
20:40challenging its decision to end TPS for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans.
20:44But at this moment I feel a little lost, seeing my mother being depressed.
21:08What happens if I return to my country, you know?
21:12Everything that I learned at this moment serves for nothing,
21:14because in Venezuela there is no good future.
21:26I was not in my plans.
21:28Everything fell off.
21:34At that moment, during the live,
21:36we were told that he was here.
21:38It was someone who entered with the Paranormal Humanitarian
21:40and believes that they are closed
21:42the applications that they are not receiving.
21:44They are receiving, so you can apply
21:46through the use application.
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28:26It's better not to go out and tell them that you have to think about the sacrifice that is with your dad and his dad.
28:43Today we are going to place the holes for the TPS.
28:48This makes me angry.
28:53Not because of the feeling that I'm going to put in the hole.
28:58No, it's not a common exit.
29:01It's a risk in this moment,
29:04with the measures that they have taken so drastically.
29:09But we have to go.
29:12Oh, my God, it's late.
29:22Let's take a little...
29:23Let's take a little...
29:24Let's take a little...
29:25Let's take a little...
29:26Let's take a little...
29:27Let's take a little...
29:28I think it's good, Sebastian.
29:30Let's take a look at the mirror.
29:32Oh, it's arrived.
29:42Let's take a little...
29:43Let's take a little...
29:44Let's take a little...
29:45Let's take a little...
29:46Let's take a little...
29:47Let's take a little...
29:48Massive immigration enforcement crackdown has led to hundreds of arrests in Florida.
30:05Immigration attorneys reported seeing ICE vehicles in the parking lot of the building housing the courtrooms.
30:10The law enforcement officers were wearing masks as they took people into custody who were apparently there for their hearings.
30:17They are on.
30:24Oh...
30:26know...
30:27Paper when they went to the cops.
30:37Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 300, me voy.
31:07Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 300, me voy a una cita de UCI para el asilo, super nervioso, no sabe que pueda pasar allá, ellos determinan si lo van a pasar a corte para seguir defendiendo el caso o ya ellos me dicen, no tienes más chance o sí, la entrevista de hoy es la clave.
31:37Muchas gracias.
31:44Gracias a ustedes.
31:46Que tenga buen día.
31:46Gracias.
31:50¿Estás saliendo apenas?
31:52Todo bien.
31:53Bueno, la entrevista ya terminó, pero ellos no te dan ninguna determinación, si sí o si no.
32:00Ay, Dios mío, ¿dónde estás tú?
32:02Ay, no, quítate de allí, quítate de allí.
32:05Estoy saliendo ahorita de la entrevista, marico, apenas.
32:08Bueno, me fue bien, tengo que volver el 5.
32:10Ah, bueno, por lo menos no te dieron por esto.
32:13No, por lo menos, de pana.
32:19Cuéntame, cuéntame, cuéntame, cuéntame.
32:20No, bueno, como te dije, hicieron preguntas, fechas claves, que no sé qué, que no sé qué más, y que con las computadoras, ¿cuándo piensan?
32:28Que porque yo no apliqué a un año y a un día, que porque tal.
32:32¿Y fue en español o en inglés?
32:33Español e inglés.
32:36Porque la tiba también hablaba español.
32:39Te preguntó si habías trabajado ilegalmente.
32:41Ajá.
32:42Y las entradas que tuve a este país, menos mal que yo tenés, le pelé por el picho, aquí está.
32:48¿No te preguntó ella sobre los antecedentes?
32:52Sí, a los últimos.
32:54Estos son los cambios que te hice en tu, en tu vaina, en tu cuestión, fírmalas, léelas.
32:58Le he dicho, se puso los lentes, pero es un bien distinto.
33:02Y entonces ya, último, ajá, ¿por qué tienes miedo de volver a tu país?
33:09Y yo le dije, simplemente el hecho de que yo vuelva de los Estados Unidos, ya eso es persecución, porque ellos odian este país, le dije así.
33:32El miedo que me da de que lo regresen a Venezuela es un favor.
33:42El estatus de Ginésca es cero.
33:44Y a ellos se les venció todo.
33:46Tampoco le han dado cita para lo del asilo.
33:49Y a ella nunca le llegó nada del TPS.
33:51Hay ahorita la opción de autodeportarse.
34:01Eso no es una salida, sobre todo para el venezolano.
34:05¿Cómo se empieza a adejecer la situación como esta?
34:10Uno tiene miedo de lo que pueda suceder allá, llegar.
34:12¿Cómo está?
34:25Tanto que está pasando en las redes, que se están llevando a la gente detenida.
34:32We have to be detained,
34:33the massive deportations,
34:34the road.
34:36That's why we want to do things well,
34:38so that we don't get caught on the street.
34:42Let's go to Ginés Casola,
34:44in this country.
34:47These days were easy days,
34:49for nothing.
34:50Because they're all...
34:52and predictable, in real life.
34:55But there's no right to Patalé
34:57because they're not giving us
34:58the opportunity to defend
35:00because it's something that one has not done.
35:10Negado.
35:11Me lo remitieron a court.
35:15¿En serio?
35:16¿Para cuándo?
35:17Para el 8 de julio.
35:20¿De julio?
35:24Para allá.
35:25Exacto.
35:30Sí.
35:33¿Ya tú te estás arreglando para irte?
35:36Sí.
35:37Ya me lo van a arrollar.
35:38Ah, bueno.
35:39Dale, nos vemos.
35:40Entonces...
35:45Ahora, en la noche.
35:46Vamos a ir para la casa.
35:47Vamos a ir para la casa.
36:00Me da mucho miedo
36:01que a uno de ellos dos
36:02me los agarre migración.
36:05De que me deporten a mí
36:06y ellos los dejen acá.
36:07Mira.
36:20Sigue la presencia de ahí
36:21en varios Walmart del país.
36:25Ya ni hace mercado.
36:26No puede ir tranquilo.
36:30No, ya.
36:31Estoy decepcionada.
36:32No, ya.
36:38Yo considero que ya el plan B
36:39tenemos que tenerlo seguro
36:40por un lado.
36:41Porque vivir otra vez
36:42esta situación
36:43es demasiado preocupante,
36:45angustiante,
36:46que uno no sabe qué hacer,
36:47uno no sabe,
36:48y ahora empezar de cero
36:49sin tener nada.
36:51De verdad que
36:52no quiero volverlo de nuevo.
36:53Un poquito de nuevo.
36:54Gracias.
36:58Gracias.
36:59O'er the lands of the free we
37:04and the...
37:09and the...
37:10and the...
37:11and the...
37:12and the tomato sauce.
37:13And the...
37:14and the...
37:15and the...
37:16and the...
37:17and the...
37:18What an incredible night
37:19to be together here
37:20at the beautiful
37:21Doral Central Park
37:22celebrating the birthday
37:23of the free...
37:24In Doral,
37:28we are a mosaic
37:29of cultures and backgrounds.
37:30But what unites us
37:32is the shared love
37:33for a country
37:34that gave us a second chance,
37:36a fresh start
37:37and a place to call home.
37:38This celebration
37:39is a reminder
37:40that the American dream
37:41is still alive
37:42and that it lives
37:43in each of us,
37:44in our work,
37:45in our families,
37:46in the world.
37:52of the rich
37:54and...
37:55of the good
37:56that it is
37:57for.
37:58We are not
37:59inside,
38:00we are in the world.
38:01We are in the world.
38:02So the time
38:03and the country
38:05will be the man
38:06that is the end
38:07that we are giving us
38:07and we don...
38:09in the world.
38:10This is great.
38:11We are in the world.
38:12We are in the world.
38:13domestic
38:20car
38:22i think it has been to the 74
38:24tell me that i see
38:26that
38:28it's hard to do
38:32you even have to do the same
38:34you have to do the court
38:35930
38:37do you have to deal with
38:39yes
38:41What's going on?
39:10No, no he salido. Me corrieron la cita para la una de la tarde porque no han llegado los policías.
39:17¿Cómo que la policía?
39:20Mentira.
39:22Por favor, vente, vente, vente, vente.
39:25Hubo uno que se presentó y llevó a la policía por otra puertita y ese sí se lo llevaron.
39:30Cuando me senté, nada, ni hablé. Entonces una vez, take your soul, ¿se puede ir?
39:35Y yo...
39:37¡Ah, salí!
39:48Ya acabo de salir de la vaina de la corte.
39:50¿Puedes sacar papel de vuelta en octubre?
39:52Claro, claro, sí. Permiso de trabajo, social y todo para estar más legal.
39:55Hola, no te bendiga. ¿Cómo les fue?
39:57No, ya, ya estoy de afuera en la calle. Me voy a ir para la casa ahorita.
40:01Ahora hay que esperar a Ginéska.
40:03Guarda, guarda estas chuletas en la nevera, por favor. Déjamela de arriba que la voy a picar.
40:21Yo estoy consciente de que soy migrante, que me tengo que poner a la orden de las leyes para que mi permanencia se extienda.
40:30Pero todos los días algo cambia.
40:32De verdad es que...
40:34Esta es la expectativa con que, ajá, ahora, ¿qué van a decir?
40:39¿Qué va a pasar con nuestro futuro concretamente?
40:42Que es angustiante.
40:44Dale, échale agua.
40:47No sé qué va a pasar, no sé qué voy a hacer.
40:51Si tú sientes que es el final y no es un final feliz, no es el final.
41:01No es el final, Sebastián. Calma.
41:04Yo quiero un buen futuro, quiero aspirar a más.
41:21Seropardindia…
41:41Coming up next, on this special edition of Frontline…
41:44The Trump administration says they're members of a notorious Venezuelan gang called Tren de Aracuas.
41:50of three men sent by the U.S. to a notorious prison in El Salvador.
42:04Surviving Sakat starts right now.
42:20My name is Juan José Ramos Ramos.
42:26I am a electrician, I am a phone repair, also a painter.
42:33My name is Elina Margarita Ramos Hidalgo. I am her mother.
42:38My name is Wilmer Jose Vega Sandia.
42:41My mother has cancer and that has been the issue of going to the United States for the situation of my mother.
42:47My name is Andri Omar Blanco Bonilla. I have 40 years of age.
42:51I am a industrial engineer.
42:54My name is Carmen Bonilla. I am the mother of Andri Omar Blanco Bonilla.
43:00My son Andri, they detest him because when he was retired from the immigration institutions,
43:06a officer saw the tattoo and asked if he had tattoo on the other side of the body.
43:13And he said yes. They sent him to take care of his clothes.
43:18He told me, you belong to the band of The Tren de Aragua.
43:23Juan José had only seven days there in Utah.
43:26I was in a work interview with his brother, who was when he took the immigration.
43:31He told me that he belonged to The Tren de Aragua and the tattoos he had in the body.
43:35I have a condition of the man. I have no longer been in a car.
43:40He said, well, you are here because the immigration decided that you were a danger for society.
43:45And I told him, I told him, I told him.
43:47I told him, we have one more.
43:50I had three jobs.
43:52I had just a few hours of rest.
43:55I had just to work, work, work.
43:57I had to work.
43:59The first October of October, they arrested me.
44:02We went to an immigration office.
44:05They told me that I was active member of The Tren de Aragua.
44:10They told me that the test was my tattoo on my hands.
44:13For having a rose on a clock, they sent me to an immigration center in Louisiana,
44:19which I was detained for six months until I was taken to El Salvador.
44:23And it started the horror movie.
44:25The Trump administration deported hundreds of Venezuelans, it says, are members of a notorious gang, sending them to a prison in El Salvador.
44:43The Trump administration says they're members of a Venezuelan gang called Tren de Aragua.
44:48Salvador's Center for Terrorism Confinement, known as CICAT, is the largest prison in the Americas and is infamous for its harsh conditions.
45:18I have a tattoo of a father hugging his son on the rails of the train, but it was a tattoo that I first made for my son.
45:44The United States of New York, the United States of New York, the United States of New York, and it said,
45:54the U.S. Army of the United States of New York, and it said, either they're going by the good or bad.
46:00How are they going by? No, we're not going by them. Ah, well, by the bad.
46:03And they started to hit with a lot of robots.
46:05They asked them, welcome to the CICAT, the confinement with terrorists, they're going to die.
46:10Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.
46:15I knew that what was coming was not easy.
46:20They were throwing us against our will and by coups.
46:24There were many people who shouted,
46:27who asked help, help.
46:30The wives were at a point so hard
46:34that they made us wounds on the knees.
46:37A lot of people ate blood because we were cutting with the same wife.
46:41They were verbally saying,
46:43walk.
46:47I remember telling the officer,
46:49I can't walk.
46:51If the wives get hurt, I can collaborate.
46:54But I can't walk.
46:56I was hit to the point where I was falling.
46:59They took me arrested.
47:01Until we got to the module, they took me,
47:03I took my head against the floor,
47:06I woke up and said,
47:08God, why am I here?
47:14When I saw the news of El Salvador on Sunday,
47:17I was angry.
47:18I saw that he was there.
47:20I saw the photos that they published in El Salvador.
47:28And I recognized them.
47:30I felt like a mother of a very big, very deep,
47:34when they were all looking for help.
47:37I felt that the world came down.
47:42And we started to put 10,
47:4510, 15 people per cell.
47:49The food was like water.
47:51The baths were disgusting.
47:53The baths were disgusting.
47:54We drank water from the same water that we drank.
47:57The reactors took us all over.
47:58The mattress was a glass,
47:59in the house,
48:00in the houses.
48:01There were people who had
48:01people who had problems respiratorial
48:04with that.
48:06The windows full of boxes.
48:08To sleep on the stanie,
48:09because the walls were никаких.
48:10To sleep.
48:11Because the walls are in here.
48:12I said,
48:13what time we were going to hold this?
48:14How long we were going to be able to bear this?
48:15How long we were going to bear this time?
48:16The price of having a good hygiene was based on a pill.
48:23I wanted to go to bed, and they saw me.
48:27They took me to the island, and they started to hit me.
48:32And a officer hit me in the ears, so that I was able to calm down.
48:37And then they started to hit me.
48:39They started to hit me in a lot of times.
48:42Two hours.
48:43All the officers came in, the guard, to hit me.
48:46Even the same director was the same.
48:49I didn't see a lot of people in the head.
48:53They took me to a prison cell.
48:55That's what it was called.
48:57It's a prison cell that is totally sealed.
49:00It only has a little ray of light.
49:04There you could be 12 hours, 24 hours, 16 hours in that hole.
49:10There was a lot of time that they wanted.
49:15I received a shot in my intimate parts, as I would say,
49:21of a pain that they gave me.
49:23And I'm still suffering from that.
49:27We said that I would prefer to die or to kill myself
49:31than to be able to live this experience.
49:33That every day they would wake up at 4 in the morning
49:35to tell you how to kill yourself.
49:37To kill yourself.
49:38To keep listening to the reds.
49:40To your brothers who killed them.
49:42They would often ask for help.
49:44They would ask for help.
49:45I'd rather kill myself.
49:46I'd rather kill myself.
49:47I'd rather kill myself.
49:49Hundreds of men accused of belonging to a Venezuelan criminal gang
49:53have been released from a high security prison in El Salvador.
50:01Now they've been sent to Venezuela in a prisoner swap
50:04between Caracas and Washington.
50:06So, I was told that my son was killed.
50:09To be honest, they would call me a driver to watch.
50:12They would call me a driver to watch the car.
50:14I would say that they would call me a driver to watch the car.
50:15This is my life.
50:16I was telling you,
50:17and I was telling you,
50:18I'm telling you,
50:19I'm telling you,
50:20you're talking about the car,
50:21and I'm telling you,
50:22you're telling me,
50:23and I'm telling you,
50:24my son is returning to home.
50:25I've ended up with my son.
50:26My son is returning home.
50:27and then my pain ended.
50:29It was to have my son in my arms
50:33as the first time I was born.
50:39When we arrived here in Maiketía,
50:41I could see that my mom was waiting,
50:43my family, my brother, my brother,
50:45my sister, my grandmother.
50:47That was the best receive we could have.
50:51It's still hard to assimilate that I'm in the street.
50:55It won't be so easy to forget
50:57the pain that we've had.
50:59Now I'm going to where my mother is.
51:03I'm going to be with my mother.
51:05I'm going to protect her.
51:07I'm going to spend the time that God allows me.
51:16I believe that Trump took the decision
51:19to send these boys to the second.
51:22My intention was that the people
51:25could see what's going to happen
51:27if someone took the decision
51:29to emigrate in these moments
51:31to the United States.
51:32the ones I have done with him
51:33and I know that he was going to work,
51:35it was a challenge.
51:36I've been able to do it with whatever
51:37the marriage was done.
51:38The community would go to the next
51:40group, so it was in the first place.
51:42The community,
51:43it was in the first place,
51:44it was in the first place.
51:45It was just a few places.
51:46It was in the first place.
51:47The couple of there were
51:48friends, parents,
51:49couple of them.
51:50The first place in the month,
51:51the fifth place in the month.
51:52The last place in the month,
51:53the second place in the month,
51:54the first place at the end.
51:55Come on, let's go, let's go, let's go!
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