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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:23I'll be right back.
00:40Her sister, I believe.
00:43Their dogs were barking all day.
00:44They were like, I guess it was because of this.
00:49She's cold.
00:50There's blood everywhere.
00:52I think she's been murdered.
00:53We have help off the way.
00:55OK, thank you, ma'am.
01:04Quick out, police!
01:10There's blood everywhere.
01:14Pretty brutal.
01:17A whole bunch of settlers.
01:19There's blood on the bear as well.
01:23A female pretty much stabbed to death.
01:26And she is clearly 48.
01:30Eight of hours she's been there.
01:33Body's very cold.
01:35Homicide en route.
01:38I want to do this to somebody.
01:50For homicide detectives, their chance of solving a murder
01:54is cut in half if they don't get a lead
01:57within the first 48 hours.
02:12Howdy.
02:13How are you guys?
02:19The victims?
02:20Ana Karen.
02:2424-year-old Ana Karen Ramos-Hernandez
02:27was born in Cuernavaca, Mexico,
02:29and moved to the United States when she was 10.
02:33Since graduating high school, Karen worked as a house painter
02:36and was learning how to do home renovation.
02:39She enjoyed spending her free time with her four nieces,
02:42two cats, and two dogs.
02:53Karen was stabbed her arms, her face.
02:57Like, a lot of chest stuff as well.
03:00This was definitely, somebody was going after her.
03:05Karen was stabbed over 40 times.
03:09I've never seen one with that many days.
03:13In the bedroom, feeling her turn to the right of the bed
03:16and there's a lot of big pool of blood on the bed.
03:20And there's a lot of stuff above the headboard.
03:25We think she's probably been here since last night.
03:28There's no forced entrance from the door.
03:33There's two bloody fingerprints on the entrance door.
03:40We haven't located the knife.
03:42No.
03:45The victim's sister, last contact with the victim,
03:48was last night.
03:49She gets here and she immediately finds her sister like that.
03:55So I call her sister.
03:56Well.
04:07Ayer, the last time I talked to her,
04:09it was at 8 o'clock.
04:12And I sent her memes of the night
04:15and she said, I'm going to leave her tomorrow.
04:17So I left her.
04:18And in the morning, when I woke up at 7 o'clock,
04:20I called her and said,
04:22I told her, she said,
04:22I'm going to sleep.
04:23She said, she's sleeping.
04:24She's sleeping.
04:26She didn't answer me.
04:27And then at 10 o'clock,
04:28I wrote her on the phone.
04:30I gave me a phone to click on her,
04:31she was sitting on the phone.
04:34I was staring at the phone.
04:34I did not answer her,
04:35and I was not saying.
04:36She was stuck on the phone.
04:43She closed the phone.
04:47She even went to the phone.
05:05Karen's sister says that until recently, Karen had lived with her longtime boyfriend, Sebastian Omania Torres.
05:18She was like in her relationship. A lot of times I said, oh, it happened.
05:23What kind of problems she had with her?
05:26She is very vicious. I like the motorcycle and others.
05:31I often say, no, it will not be convenient, but she was twice, with him.
05:39She was with her before?
05:57She said she called Sebastian's father after discovering Karen's body.
06:12Sebastian's father told her his son moved in with him four days ago.
06:26She says Sebastian's father is on his way to the scene.
06:43Downstairs from Karen's apartment.
06:52Detective David Early talks to Karen's neighbor.
06:57Hello?
06:58Hey, this is Detective Early. Good night, PD.
07:01Does this thing work?
07:02Yes.
07:02Looks like it does.
07:03Yes.
07:03Do you mind if I kind of look back and see if we can't see what happened?
07:06Yes.
07:08Motion clips.
07:10Motion clips.
07:12Close 16 and this dude walking real, real slow up that direction.
07:20Like sneaking up the stuff.
07:23Like what's he concentrating at?
07:31He comes out kind of in a hurry, pulling the hood over his face.
07:37Thank you, sir.
07:38Okay.
07:45Thank you very much for being here.
07:50Sebastian's father arrives to talk to detectives.
07:53How is it?
07:54How was the last time you talked with Sebastian?
07:56Today.
07:58How was it?
08:00How was it?
08:01It's three.
08:01I called him, father.
08:02How are you?
08:02How are you?
08:03I asked him, where are you?
08:06And he asked him.
08:07He said, father, you're out of work here in Miami.
08:10I'm thinking of going away.
08:12Because I'm not going away.
08:15No, no, es nada.
08:17Y no sé.
08:18Porque es que usted es bien raro conmigo.
08:22Yo creo que me voy a ir.
08:24Y yo, OK, mÃa, decisión suya.
08:28¿Y él estaba contigo ayer?
08:32SÃ.
08:33¿A qué hora?
08:35Él llegó como a las dos, dos y media.
08:40Y anoche, anoche, yo sà lo noté extraño, la verdad,
08:44no, no te extraño porque tenÃa baba blanca.
08:48Entonces, estaba muy reseco la boca y eso es como si hubiera consumido algo.
08:55Él empezó a decirme San Mesos.
08:59Cuando llegó, ¿por qué se empezó a decirme?, porque es que él se me acerca a decirme a mÃ,
09:04como si yo fuera el culpable, como si yo siempre, siempre.
09:10Desde siempre, desde siempre.
09:13Incluso desde Colombia y todo.
09:16Que a mà me van a matar, que a mà me van a matar,
09:19y que él me cuida, y que yo no sé qué, y que...
09:23¿Tú sabes que a usted estaba manejando tu hijo?
09:28Tengo entendido que Karen tenÃa esa flor blanca.
09:35A ver, la relación con él y Karen, o sea, no, no, no es buena.
09:43Nunca, él hace siempre su voluntad.
09:47Y Karen estaba ya cansada.
09:51Que tal cosa, y ya no quiere trabajar más,
09:54y que es como él dice, es como él este.
09:58Entonces, Karen siempre le colaboraba muchÃsimo.
10:05Yo siempre le dije a Karen, Karen, por favor, mire, aléjese, aléjese.
10:12No sé, esta persona, esta foto.
10:38Parece, pero no sé, no estoy seguro de la ventana.
10:42No sé qué más, ¿qué puedo colaborar más?
10:45O sea, con el dolor del alma, yo venÃa hablando con alguien.
10:52AsÃ, si lo hizo, ¿qué asuma sus consecuencias?
10:59Yo creo que eso es todo por ahora.
11:02Tengo que regresar ahà adentro.
11:11Quay, la gente se llama la ventana.
11:13Un SUV hit a Flock camera en el calor de Georgia,
11:17near Valdosta, a 6 p.m. this evening.
11:21Karen's explorer was spotted leaving the state, heading south.
11:27Does that think he got the means to get back to Columbia?
11:33Checked flights from Miami to Columbia today.
11:37See if there's any.
11:39I believe that we're at PC already for an arrest warrant for the suspect.
11:45Headed back to headquarters to work on that arrest warrant.
11:57That's him.
12:0026-year-old Kurt Sebastian Omania Torres has no prior convictions.
12:06Sebastian's originally from Columbia.
12:09That could be a potential location where he would want to flee.
12:14Miami, to fly over to Columbia would be really easy.
12:17A lot of international flights come out of Miami to South America.
12:22He left the state. He has a day ahead of us.
12:27We're having the U.S. marshals to go ahead and try to come down.
12:32Marshals, we have a lot more resources to locate suspects.
12:55Two days later.
13:01There he is.
13:07We're in the police, hello?
13:12Vehicle is empty. He's going to be inside.
13:17Hey, you came in that white explorer?
13:20You in the bathroom?
13:23You in the bathroom?
13:24Step out to the police.
13:27Yeah.
13:28Let me see your hands, step out.
13:29Both hands, step up.
13:31Hey, step out.
13:34Come here.
13:37Can you confirm his name?
13:39Yeah, get to know him.
13:42This is a mess of the way to stab him.
13:44Yeah, let's go.
13:48He goes to 35.
13:58Karen's live Ford Explorer had hit on our license plate
14:00reading cameras around 11 o'clock.
14:03We got information from the father.
14:05Kurt had returned home, and then he left and said
14:08that he was going to go to a gas station.
14:12That video is definitely this guy.
14:14The video they said it does.
14:17You can see the little shave on the side.
14:19Mm-hmm.
14:20I see.
14:28The air is not going to be in that seat.
14:31Is it wrong?
14:32No, I don't think so.
14:35What happens is that...
14:38Look, I got out of here because...
14:40What happens is that I feel like a threat.
14:42What happened is this girl...
14:48What happened is her.
14:50... her wife?
14:51My ex...
14:52How is she?
14:53She is calling her?
14:55She is calling her.
14:59She is calling her.
14:59At the beginning, she was really nice.
15:02She was like she is.
15:04She was like she is...
15:05Okay, she is looking for a girl.
15:05She was like a girl girl, she is going to be home,
15:06and I stopped being on her.
15:10Look, I looked at the news and it was really weird because it wasn't the thing.
15:18Okay, can you explain what happened?
15:22Look, I lived with her for about four years.
15:26Okay.
15:27We didn't understand how well.
15:30I decided to live with my dad.
15:34Okay, where were you the weekend?
15:37I was doing DoorDash because I was doing DoorDash.
15:42Okay.
15:43So, when you're doing DoorDash, what time did you come back to home?
15:50About...
15:5210.
15:56The story is that you were doing DoorDash, that you weren't there.
16:01We could have a phone number for you.
16:04It's like that.
16:05It's easier to see.
16:08No, what happened is that I removed everything.
16:13I decided to continue to do it.
16:15Because in my plans, I had to know her more.
16:20I had a little bit of money.
16:22The car that I was driving, which is from her.
16:26I went to her.
16:27I went to Florida.
16:29To Florida.
16:31Why did you go to Florida?
16:34I went to travel.
16:35I had about $500, $600.
16:39Then I wanted to go.
16:41But then I saw it on Facebook.
16:44I started to worry.
16:46I started to worry.
16:46I started to think about things.
16:47Mm-hmm.
16:48Mm-hmm.
16:49Mm-hmm.
16:51Mm-hmm.
16:52That won't say one number.
16:53Okay?
17:00Show him going to her house.
17:02For y'all to say, we can clearly see your face and your mask is off.
17:06Be like, dude, we knew you were there.
17:08And then I put pictures of her in there.
17:10Mm-hmm.
17:12Mm-hmm.
17:12I say we started playing that relationship first.
17:16Why they split how that went, kind of getting him in that mindset.
17:24Yeah.
17:27Durante la relación, me puede decir qué pasó.
17:34Mira, es que ella era una persona muy violenta.
17:38Era muy mala contigo.
17:41Ya, pero al principio, porque eso fue la hermana.
17:44No sé si ustedes crean en la brujerÃa.
17:47¿Cómo?
17:49Yo siento que ella la controlaba a ella por medio de la comida y asÃ.
17:55Y...
17:57Mira de cosas que ella...
17:58Que si yo le contara...
18:01DirÃan que uno está loco, pero es que es la verdad.
18:04Por medio de la brujerÃa, pueden controlar las personas.
18:13Detectives show Sebastian crime scene photos of Karen's body.
18:18F***, man.
18:21Oh, my goodness.
18:35F***, man.
18:36Oh, my goodness.
18:37El video, pero...
18:38El video entero...
18:40Te enseña a ti, la cara a ti.
18:43O sea, ¿por qué bajas por aqu�
18:49Dios mÃo.
18:51Yo le pido a Dios...
18:53Que me perdone, Señor.
19:09Llegó un momento en el que...
19:11No sé qué estaba haciendo.
19:16Yo sé que va a ser difÃcil.
19:19Pero...
19:20La única...
19:21La única manera...
19:22Que Dios te puede coordinar...
19:24Y si tú dices la verdad...
19:26Oigan, te lo digo...
19:27De verdad, mÃrame...
19:29Tienes que decir la verdad.
19:30De verdad, yo no era...
19:39Yo no era, yo no era...
19:41El...
19:42El dÃa de mi...
19:43Tiene un espÃritu, una entidad muy áspel,
19:48Yo sé, me acuerdo...
19:51El hecho es que sÃ, yo fui...
19:57Se me han metido el diablo, demonio...
20:00My demonio, my body, my mind, my body, my way of thinking.
20:10Where did you enter? Where did she go?
20:13She was there, on the TV.
20:17Where did she go?
20:20Where did she go?
20:22What happened?
20:23It hurts, it hurts, it hurts.
20:27But it hurts more if you hold it inside.
20:31I started it.
20:35Did she hurt her?
20:36Yes.
20:39She told me something when she was watching.
20:43Give me a kiss, give me a kiss.
20:45Is that your girl wanted to hear?
20:52I'm sorry none of you're dying.
20:55How do I told you?
20:58I'm not going to die.
21:00What could I tell her don't want to die?
21:04Do not want to die one second there.
21:06Just wait for me, I will laugh.
21:12He doesn't take off the mask until he's walking down the stairs from the apartment.
21:17So I believe he has his mask on the entire time.
21:24I think he's just full of it.
21:26The kids think it's just all to try to make himself feel better.
21:31I think it was probably a lot of revenge and anger in there.
21:34And for all we know, I mean, she dumped him and he wasn't having it.
21:39Unfortunately, I do see this a lot when it comes to domestics and the stabbing being the injuries.
21:46There's always a lot of rage and emotion behind it.
21:51And his mind thinks that she still loved him all the way to the end.
22:22Six months after Karen's death.
22:27I'm giving them the pictures, which my sister was one of her favorites.
22:34What?
22:34In relación con Karen, que yo era, era muy apegada.
22:39Muy, este, siempre salÃamos juntas en el trabajo o con sus sobrinas.
22:46Ella era muy apegada a mis hijas, sus sobrinas.
22:53Aquà fue a cumpleaños igual sorpresa.
22:56Este fue cuando cumplió 22 años.
23:01Yo a mi me gusta peinarla mucho porque me gustaba experimentar como nuevos peinados.
23:09Que yo le rizara su pelo con una máquina que me cobró mi mamá.
23:14Y ahorita sà es difÃcil porque yo digo, ¿con qué voy a transcurrir?
23:21Mi mamá me falleció y a los seis meses falleció mi hermana.
23:28Y sà es un fuerte golpe llevar todo eso, toda esa idea de que se me fueron las personas especiales.
23:45¿Qué?
23:58¿Qué?
24:06¿Qué?
24:09¿Qué?
24:19¿Qué?
24:20Les de tu alcohol, puedes llegar a mi mamá!
24:29¡Viva vos, mamá me!
24:33...
24:34chau!
24:49Oh mi mamá!
25:02Let's see what's up what's up the car back up and hit the tree Chevy Malibu yeah
25:11y'all need a bit of information Robert Camden Dorch Jackson 25 year old Camden Jackson worked at a local
25:24Winn-Dixie and part-time for his uncle's painting business Camden's first child was due in seven
25:36months oh the head Camden was shot eight times passenger Gervonta Kennedy 26 year old van Kennedy
25:52the fourth was the youngest of three and loved to spend time with his young nieces and nephews
25:58he recently graduated Fortis College for heating and air conditioning
26:04my cheek the left neck left behind the ear then was shot nine times all we know is that the
26:17car was
26:17he's here right here somewhere in the street along the road and sidewalk detectives find 25 nine
26:28millimeter keysings when he pulled up and started shooting they tried to ram go forward and then
26:34couldn't get out so they backed up collect the 240 caliber guns from within the vehicle you see the
26:43blood pool from his finger the gun was laying right there they find eight 40 caliber casings in the
26:55front and two nine millimeter casings in the back a bloody palm print on the driver's side rear exterior door
27:14someone ran up to the car like this and braced and may have fired more than 50 cases in there
27:22it's crazy dude maybe our suspect was shot it could be his blood
27:30walked up and fired more shots inside of the car I just want to know from the shooter why you
27:37know
27:46so just tell me what what you were doing and what happened lieutenant Stan latmere interviews the 911
27:53caller who was working at the nearby drugstore I was ringing up a customer and caught the light was
28:00trying to get from you know whatever was going on the person in the green SUV got up at the
28:06car he was
28:07shooting she says the man was shooting into the victim's Chevy Malibu I don't know if they were shooting
28:14back at him or what but I seen them ducking a couple of times that's when the car rolled as
28:20you seen the car
28:21rolling and as that car hit the curb start shooting again in the car on the drive side
28:26she says the shooter then ran back to his gray SUV and drove away he got back in the car
28:33where did the
28:34car go straight before the van okay all right I appreciate it you're welcome so the information
28:43about the gray SUV was passed on to patrol anyone else any witnesses the girl that's in the Joker shirt
29:02over there okay now tell me what happened I was coming I was about to get my medicine the dude
29:10who hopped
29:11out on SUV he was shooting at this car he had on like some blue like some pants they like
29:18blue jeans or
29:19something and he had on like a jet like green what his hat was like he had a bald head
29:26a high tall
29:28like five what's his complexion dark skin light skin he like a little brighter than you
29:37and just only one guy yes man one guy got out was he the passenger or the driver no he
29:43was the driver
29:45all right why was he so pissed off about it for you to get at your car and then come
29:56over and try to finish it up
30:05I think we got family walking over to the side
30:09this is the mom from Camden we'll talk to mom
30:18how did y'all know of the company the young lady Camden's mother says a friend of Camden
30:25called her with the news she called my phone and typically she don't call my phone
30:30yes ma'am when I said hello and she said um miss Carmen you at work I said yes ma
30:37'am
30:38she said I need you to step outside I said okay so I stepped outside my job
30:44I said what's going on and she told me that my baby was dead
30:52she's saying a thing about that she knew about what happened or what could have caused it or
30:56anything like that you know if he was beefing with anybody or
31:02I don't really know the guy real name they call him jam rock well I guess back in October they
31:09were singing the jam rock broken for my home him he had told me that they had been exchanging words
31:16back and forth about what he was gonna do to them and stuff like that we're working on that you'll
31:22be
31:22the first person once someone is arrested we will call you first if you get received information
31:27about someone saying this is who did it or anything like that of course give me a phone call all
31:33right
31:33thank y'all
31:41then there's a guy at the hospital a hospital near the crime scene has admitted a black male patient
31:48who walked in with a gunshot wound yeah bald head like everybody out here is described they got the
31:55camera in front of the hospital so he actually is shot the man has a laceration wound across the back
32:24of
32:24the head it's not like threatening and it's dropped off in a black money car yeah they got who he
32:35dropped his truck off
32:37the Nikki going to the hospital
32:47as the team wraps up the scene
32:49here they found the vehicle
32:52it's both like an hv
32:55officers find a gray suv matching the description of the suspect vehicle a half mile away
33:01found it abandoned at 315 avenue path that's some prince of something he's gotta be patrol should be over there
33:11and they're gonna stand by
33:12and they're gonna stand by until we can all make it over there
33:14all right
33:15all right
33:15i'll head over there
33:23we're at abandoned house great job
33:31oh wow
33:33kiki check through that
33:35call that jackpot
33:39the guy this comes back to is at the hospital
33:43blood on the vehicle on the driver's side
33:49you can tell by the laminate on the glass it's pointing inward so it would have been the force of
33:54the bullet going into the windshield
33:58it looks like he was shot while he was inside of the car
34:04that gun's still a car i'm gonna have to get a search warrant
34:08this is gonna be our suv that he pretty much stashed
34:12parked the car here got out walked away and probably found someone to take him
34:20at least we have a possible suspect you know hopefully he can give us our why
34:26let's see what we got at the hospital
34:37what's your name
34:41sergeant nick crapaud interviews the suspect
34:44so what happened to you
34:45i pulled up on the inside of
34:49right
34:49where'd that happen at
34:52among the chief
34:54the street he names runs through the intersection of the crime scene
34:58so were you in a vehicle or on foot or
35:01no i was in my car
35:02gotcha
35:05what kind of car you got
35:08Volkswagen
35:09Volkswagen
35:10what color is that
35:14what happened
35:19did you shoot back or anything did you have a gun
35:22did you see what kind of car they were in
35:26yeah
35:27what happened to you
35:27yeah
35:27we got to stop you dead
35:29so where's your car at right now
35:32oh
35:34how did you get here
35:51All right, hang tight, man, all right?
35:54All right.
36:00Two hours later, the suspect is brought to headquarters.
36:07I think this is our guy.
36:09I think we do have enough for a murder.
36:12This guy drove his vehicle away from the scene,
36:15parked it at another location.
36:19I think what I want to know is what's the history behind these two
36:22guys.
36:25I'm looking at it.
36:26I'm trying to find something for James David Wilson.
36:32James David Wilson IV is 38 years old.
36:40He was already arrested for murder before.
36:44Yeah.
36:46Said he pled guilty for a murder.
36:49That's crazy.
36:50Back in 2007.
36:542291 St. Siemens Road.
36:57The previous incident occurred less than a block away from the
37:00shooting this afternoon.
37:03Double homicide with James Wilson back in 2007 happened here.
37:08The double homicide with Camden and Van Kennedy is here, directly
37:14right across the street from here.
37:17It's crazy.
37:20Wilson served five years and was released 10 years ago.
37:24Hopefully he talks well.
37:28All right.
37:29Let's go talk to him a little bit.
37:46What's up, man?
37:47Let me kiss this chair right here real quick.
37:55Oh, much.
37:56My dad ain't here.
37:57My dad ain't here.
37:57I ain't got nothing to say.
38:01I had my handcuff.
38:02I got shot in the head, man.
38:03I'm up here handcuffed.
38:05Y'all treat me like I'm a person.
38:11All right, give me a second, man.
38:12Call your pop.
38:22Hey, Mr. Wilson.
38:24Hey, we're out here talking to your son.
38:25And he said he want to talk to us,
38:27but he wants you to be here with him.
38:30He's here at headquarters for our investigation.
38:33You want to come down here?
38:34All right.
38:37He's going to be on his way.
38:44Yes, sir.
38:46Yes, sir.
38:47James's father arrives with an attorney.
38:57He knows what happened.
38:59I mean, if he want to talk to us
39:00and tell us his version about what happened,
39:03maybe we can sit down and do that.
39:06Is somebody dead?
39:08Yeah, two people dead.
39:10We'll go get to work.
39:11All right.
39:11All right.
39:16He can tell us to kick rocks all day long.
39:18He can kick right at the metro jail.
39:21Call the DA's office and see what they got to say.
39:27Hey.
39:29Rogers lays out the evidence to the DA.
39:35OK.
39:36All right.
39:36Appreciate it.
39:39The ADA approved the charges of two counts of murder
39:43and two counts of shooting to the occupied vehicle.
39:48So that's good.
39:50We can get him to a metro jail.
40:06Hello?
40:07Hey, this is Jackson.
40:09Uh-huh.
40:09Hey, this is Detective Rogers.
40:11Yes.
40:12Hey, I'll just call him to tell you
40:13that we made an arrest on your son's case.
40:17Thank you so much.
40:20The person that was responsible was James Wilson.
40:25That's the only individual?
40:27Yes, ma'am.
40:29I really appreciate that so much.
40:32You're welcome.
40:33OK.
40:34Bye.
40:34Bye.
40:39Hello?
40:40Hey, Mrs. Williams?
40:42Yes.
40:43OK.
40:43Vans mom?
40:45Yes.
40:45OK.
40:46I was calling to tell you that we made an arrest
40:48on your son's case.
40:50Oh, you did?
40:51That's great.
40:53Why is that you do it?
40:56We don't know exactly why he did it.
40:59OK.
41:00All right.
41:01All right, thank you.
41:02All right, thank you.
41:03All right.
41:06The toughest part is to tell them that they're,
41:09you know, that their loved one is deceased.
41:12You know, the better part of this is telling them that,
41:16you know, we actually made an arrest.
41:18You know, so they don't have to have those sleepless nights
41:21wondering, you know, who killed their loved one,
41:24who killed their child.
41:38Four years later.
41:41We learned that Jamrock is James Wilson.
41:45He confirmed there was beef with Camden and James.
41:50When we went to trial, the defense attorneys were attempting
41:53to say that it was self-defense.
41:54But because James Wilson was convicted of a double homicide
41:5815 years prior, he had a duty to retreat.
42:02He didn't do so.
42:04He exited his vehicle and executed both of our victims
42:07that were inside their vehicle.
42:10That area in Tomahville is pretty much a busy intersection.
42:13For you to have a shootout during that time,
42:18during daytime, it shows that you don't care.
42:21But James Wilson was found guilty of capital murder.
42:30He wanted the claim to be the plan for him.
42:31You know, he had a piece of what they were doing.
42:40I can tell him to leave to the hospital.
42:41He wanted to go.
42:41You know, he wanted to be a blame.
42:42I don't want him to do something.
42:42You know, if he were both.
42:43I don't want him to be a crime,
42:44You
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