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00:05this program documents actual homicide investigations criminal charges are often
00:11dropped or reduced and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty
00:28when i'm counting i'm alone with the location of your emergency hunters cloud lane
00:33k-r-c reserve apartments and they need police fire a paramedic police and paramedics
00:40it's my next door neighbor they said somebody's dead in their apartment
00:45her sister i believe your dogs were barking all day i guess it's because of this
00:53she's cold there's blood everywhere i think she's been murdered we have help walk away okay thank you
01:09we've got a police
01:19pretty brutal a whole bunch of settlers there's blood on the bear as well
01:28a female pretty much stabbed to death and she is clearly 48.
01:34i don't know how long she's been there
01:37probably very cold homicide and route
01:55for homicide detectives their chance of solving a murderer is cut in half if they don't get a lead
02:01to within the first 48 hours
02:15here how are you how are you guys
02:23the victims anna karen
02:2824 year old anna karen ramos hernandez was born in cuernabaca mexico and moved to the united states
02:35when she was 10. since graduating high school karen worked as a house painter and was learning how to do
02:42home renovation she enjoyed spending her free time with her four nieces two cats and two dogs
02:58stabbed her arms her face
03:02a lot of chest stuff as well this was definitely some somebody was going after her
03:14i've never seen one of these in the bedroom feeling her turn to the right of the belly of the
03:21blood on the bed
03:25the nurse passed off above the headboard
03:29we think she's probably been here since last night there's no forced entry to the door
03:37there's two bloody fingerprints on the entrance door
03:44we haven't located the knife
03:49victim's sister last contact with the victim was last night she gets here and she immediately
03:57finds her sister like that so i called her sister
04:01and
04:11thank you
04:12ayer the last time i talked to her it was 8 am
04:16and
04:17i'm going to have the night and that she said we are going to sleep maybe tomorrow
04:21so i'll leave
04:22And on the morning, when I woke up at 5am, I marked the video, and I didn't answer.
04:28I said, I'm sleeping.
04:30And he didn't answer.
04:31After 10am, I marked the video, so he looked up.
04:35As if he woke up to see the snow.
04:38He didn't answer.
04:39I marked the normal phone.
04:40He was on the phone, on the phone, on the phone.
04:42And even at 5pm, I had a phone call via WhatsApp.
04:47He didn't connect to 19 hours.
04:49My phone was on the phone.
04:51I was on the phone.
04:54I was on the phone.
04:55I was on the phone.
04:57I was on the phone.
04:58I didn't hold it.
05:02Who else did that?
05:07Sebastian Omaña Torres.
05:10Karen's sister says that until recently, Karen had lived with her longtime boyfriend, Sebastian
05:16Omaña Torres.
05:17Melanie.
05:19I was on the phoneλαac.
05:19Tell me about his rod, he told me.
05:27He had been down there and telling me?
05:30When I was up to, it happened.
05:38But, when I was up to.
05:44Kara has always told me that he was gonna fell in the frame of care and the Val encima мама
05:46was ה�ed.
06:02She says she called Sebastian's father after discovering Karen's body.
06:16Sebastian's father told her his son moved in with him four days ago.
06:31She says Sebastian's father is on his way to the scene.
06:48Downstairs from Karen's apartment.
06:57Detective David Early talks to Karen's neighbor.
07:03Hey, this is Detective Early. Good night, PD.
07:05Does this thing work?
07:06Yes.
07:07Do you mind if I kind of look back and see if you can't see what happened?
07:13Motion closed.
07:1712, 16 and this dude walking real, real slow up that direction.
07:25Like sneaking up the steps.
07:27Like what's he call a slay man?
07:36He comes out kind of in a hurry.
07:38Pulling the hood over his face.
07:42Thank you, sir.
07:43Okay.
07:50Thank you very much for coming here.
07:54Sebastian's father arrives to talk to detectives.
08:10Depends?
08:26How was the last time he had been hanging out with Sebastian?
08:27I think I'm going to go there.
08:29Okay, my decision is yours.
08:33And he was with you yesterday?
08:36Yes.
08:38At what time?
08:40He arrived at about 2, 2.30.
08:45And yesterday, I don't miss him.
08:48I don't miss him because he had a black hole.
08:51So, he was very dry.
08:56It was like if he had consumed something.
08:59He began to tell me.
09:03When he came, he began to tell me.
09:06He came to tell me.
09:09As if I was the culpable.
09:11As if I was always, always.
09:14From always.
09:16Even from Colombia.
09:19He would tell me they are going to kill me.
09:22They are going to kill me.
09:24They are going to kill me and I don't know what.
09:28Do you know what your son is running?
09:32I understand
09:33I understood that Karen had a black relationship with her, and Karen, I mean, no, no, no, no is good.
09:47He never, he always made her beautiful.
09:52And Karen was already tired, and he didn't want to work anymore, and it's like he said, it's like this,
10:02so...
10:05Karen always collaborated with a lot of work.
10:09I always told her, Karen, Karen, please, aléjese, aléjese.
10:17No sé, esta persona, esta foto...
10:41Parece, pero no sé, no estoy seguro de nada.
10:46No sé qué más, qué puedo colaborar más.
10:48O sea, con el dolor del alma, yo venÃa hablando con él.
10:55AsÃ, si lo hizo, que asuma sus consecuencias.
11:02Yo creo que eso es todo por ahora. Tengo que regresar ahà adentro.
11:14A white SUV hit a flock camera in South Georgia near Valdosta at 6 p.m. this evening.
11:25Karen's explorer was spotted leaving the state, heading south.
11:39Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen, Karen...
11:43El
11:43I believe that we're at PC already for an arrest warrant for the suspect.
11:48Headed back to headquarters to work on that arrest warrant.
12:01That's him.
12:0426-year-old Kurt Sebastian Omano Torres has no prior convictions.
12:10Sebastian is originally from Colombia.
12:12That could be a potential location where he would want to flee.
12:18Miami, to fly over to Colombia would be really easy.
12:22A lot of international flights come out of Miami to South America.
12:26He left the state. He has a day ahead of us.
12:31We're having the U.S. marshals to go ahead and try to take him down.
12:36Marshals, we have a lot more resources to locate suspects.
12:59Two days later.
13:04Here it is.
13:11We're going to police. Hello?
13:16Vehicle is empty. He's going to be inside.
13:21Hey, who came in on that white explorer?
13:24You in the bathroom?
13:26You in the bathroom. Step out. We're going to police.
13:31Let me see your hands. Step out.
13:33Both hands. Step up.
13:35Hey, step out.
13:38Come here.
13:41Can you confirm his name?
13:42Yes, get the number of people.
13:44Oh, my.
13:44I'm not voted.
13:46He's a mess of the way of stabbing.
13:48Murder, coach.
13:49Yes, sir.
13:52He goes to 35.
14:01Karen's live Ford Explorer had hit on our license plate reading cameras around 11 o'clock.
14:07We got information from the father.
14:09Kurt had returned home, and then he left and said that he was going to go to a gas station.
14:15That video is definitely this guy.
14:17The video they said it does.
14:19He's got long hair.
14:20You can see the little shave on the side.
14:23That's him.
14:32Light it on the head.
14:33It's a work.
14:35It's a work.
14:36No, no, Captain.
14:39Lo que pasa es que, mira, yo salà a huir porque lo que pasa es que yo me siento como
14:45en una amenaza.
14:50Esa chica.
14:52¿Quién es la niña?
14:54Mi ex.
14:55¿Cómo se llama ella?
14:57Pues habla Karen.
14:59¿Y cómo fue la relación de ustedes?
15:02Al comienzo fue muy linda.
15:06No, ¿tú la dejaste a ella o ella te dejó a ti?
15:08Yo me fui.
15:10Yo me fui.
15:11Yo ya ni vivÃa con ella.
15:14Mira, yo miré las noticias y la verdad es que me da rabia porque asà no fueron las cosas.
15:21Ok, si me pueden explicar qué pasó.
15:25Mira, yo vivÃa con ella hace como unos cuatro años.
15:29Ok.
15:31No nos empezamos como a entender bien.
15:34Yo decidÃ, yo irme a vivir con mi papá.
15:38Ok.
15:38¿Y dónde estabas el viernes?
15:41Yo estaba haciendo DoorDash porque yo hago DoorDash.
15:45Ok.
15:46Entonces el viernes tú estás haciendo DoorDash, ¿a qué hora te llegaste y regresaste a la casa?
15:53Como a las...
15:5510.
16:00La historia es que tú estás haciendo DoorDash, que tú no estabas ahÃ.
16:04Podemos ver dentro de tu celular para ver igual eso.
16:09Ser más fácil asÃ.
16:12No, lo que pasé es que yo la quité todo.
16:16Yo no decidà hacer, seguir haciendo.
16:19Porque en mis planes era conocer el mar.
16:23Y pues ya tenÃa un poquito de dinero.
16:25La camioneta que estaba rentando yo, que es de ella.
16:30Me fui.
16:32¿Para dónde?
16:33Para Florida.
16:35¿Por qué te fuiste a Florida?
16:37Solo para pasear.
16:39Pues tenÃa unos 500, 600 dólares.
16:42Y después querÃa...
16:44Pero después ya vi todo en Facebook.
16:48Me empecé a preocupar.
16:49Me empecé a pensar cosas.
16:51No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
17:21Y me empecé a pensar en ese estado.
17:30Durante la relación, me pregunté, ¿qué pasó?
17:37Mira, es que ella era una persona muy violenta.
17:42Era muy mala contigo.
17:45Ya, pero al principio, porque eso fue la arma de una...
17:48No sé si ustedes crean en la brujerÃa.
17:53Yo siento que ella la controlaba a ella por medio de la comida y asÃ.
17:59Y...
17:59Mira, es de cosas que ella...
18:02Y si yo le contara...
18:05DirÃan que uno está loco, pero es que es la verdad.
18:07Por medio de la brujerÃa, pueden controlar las personas.
18:16Detectives show Sebastian crime scene photos of Karen's body.
18:20F*** me.
18:24Oh my goodness.
18:30Queremos traer una foto, a ver si me puede ayudar a explicar esto.
18:38Sobre todo es una foto de un video, pero...
18:41El video entero...
18:44Te enseñé a ti, la cara a ti.
18:46¿Por qué bajas por aqu�
18:51Dios mÃo.
18:55Yo le pido a Dios...
18:57...que me perdone, Señor.
19:11Yo me entendà que...
19:14No sé qué estaba haciendo.
19:19Yo sé que va a ser difÃcil.
19:22Pero...
19:22La única...
19:23La única manera...
19:24Que Dios te puede coordinar...
19:26Y si tú dices la verdad...
19:28Oigan, te lo digo...
19:29De verdad, mÃrame...
19:32Tienes que decir la verdad.
19:40Yo no era, yo no era, yo no era, yo no era...
19:44La tumba.
19:45Un espÃritu, una entidad muy áspela.
19:51No sé, me acuerdo.
19:54Pero el hecho es que sÃ, yo fui.
19:59Se me metió un diablo, demonio.
20:03Demonio, demonio.
20:05Me fue en mi hermano.
20:08En mi cuerpo, en mi forma de pensar.
20:12¿Dónde tú entraste?
20:14¿Dónde ella estaba?
20:16Porque ella estaba ahÃ...
20:17En el televisor.
20:19¿Dónde tú entraste?
20:20Ella estaba viendo la tele.
20:25¿Qué pasó de ella?
20:26Me duele, me duele, me duele decir...
20:29¿Pero le duele más si lo aguantas adentro?
20:34¿Qué empecé?
20:37¿Ella te perió?
20:39SÃ.
20:41¿Ella dijo algo cuando la estabas escuchando?
20:45Dame un beso, dame el último beso.
20:55¿Dónde le doy mucho por m�
20:58Es que, como le digo yo, no era yo.
21:01No era yo.
21:07Dame un beso, dame el último beso, ¿qué?
21:15Dame un beso, dame el beso.
21:15No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
21:17Cuando se está pasando hasta que se está pasando a la apartación.
21:20Asà que creo que tiene que tener el beso todo el tiempo.
21:26i think he's just full of it the kids think it's just all to try to make himself feel better
21:33and i think it was probably a lot of revenge and anger in there and for all we know i
21:38mean
21:38she dumped him and he wasn't having it unfortunately i do see this a lot when it
21:43comes to domestics and the stabbing being the the injuries there's always a lot of rage and
21:50emotion behind it and his mind think that she still loved him all the way to the end
22:25six months after karen's death
22:29les estoy dando las pizzas que igual a mi hermana era una de sus favoritas
22:36la relación con karen que yo era era muy apegada voy este siempre serÃamos juntas en el trabajo o con
22:46sus
22:46sobrinas ella era muy apegada a mis hijas sus sobrinas aquà fue cumpleaños igual sorpresa
22:59este fue cuando cumplió 22 años
23:03yo me gusta peinarla mucho porque me gustaba experimentar con nuevos peinados que yo le
23:12revisar a su pelo con una máquina que me cobró mi mamá y ahorita sà es difÃcil porque yo digo
23:21con qué voy a transcurrir mi mamá me falleció y a los seis meses falleció mi hermana y si es
23:31un fuerte golpe
23:34llevar todo todo eso todo esa pues sà de que se me fueron las personas especiales
23:44no
23:44no
23:44no
23:44no
24:10no
24:11and they are sending help out.
24:13Okay, thank you.
24:16Hello, I'm Andrew.
24:18Oh, my God! Oh, 2027!
24:21Oh, my God!
24:23Damn, dude!
24:30Oh, my God!
24:31Oh, come on, please!
24:35Come up on number one.
24:37A dude got into someone's car.
24:40There was two people inside the vehicle,
24:41and he shot us to the car.
24:44And I think the two people are dead.
25:04Nancy, what's up, what's up?
25:07The car backed up and hit the tree.
25:10Chevy Malibu?
25:11Yeah.
25:13Y'all need a victim of that for me?
25:16Robert.
25:17Camden, Dorch, Jackson.
25:2325-year-old Camden Jackson worked at a local Winn-Dixie
25:27and part-time for his uncle's painting business.
25:31Camden's first child was due in seven months.
25:40Camden was shot eight times.
25:44The passenger, Gervonta Kennedy.
25:5126-year-old Van Kennedy IV was the youngest of three, and loved to spend time with his young nieces
25:57and nephews.
25:59He recently graduated Fortis College for heating and air conditioning.
26:05The left cheek, the left neck, left behind the ear, and the left shoulder.
26:14Van was shot nine times.
26:17All we know is that the car was in...
26:19He's here.
26:20Right here.
26:21Somewhere in the street.
26:25Along the road and sidewalk, detectives find 25 9-millimeter keysings.
26:32When he pulled up and started shooting, they tried to ram, go forward, and then couldn't get out, so he
26:37backed up.
26:40Collected two .40-caliber guns from within the vehicle.
26:44You see the blood pull from his finger?
26:46The gun was laying right there.
26:51Shield casings inside the car.
26:54They find eight .40-caliber casings in the front.
27:02And two 9-millimeter casings in the back.
27:06Who knows?
27:07Shattered.
27:09A bloody palm print on the driver's side rear exterior door.
27:15Someone ran up to the car like this and braced, and they have fired more of the different casings in
27:21there.
27:22It's f***ing crazy, dude.
27:26Maybe our suspect was shot.
27:29It could be his blood.
27:32Walked up and fired more shots inside of the car.
27:36I just want to know from the shooter why, you know.
27:48So, just tell me what you were doing and what happened.
27:52Lieutenant Stan Ladnere interviews the 911 caller who was working at the nearby drugstore.
27:58I was ringing up a customer.
28:00That car at the light was trying to get from, you know, whatever was going on.
28:05The person in the green SUV got up out the car and he was shooting.
28:10She says the man was shooting into the victim's Chevy Malibu.
28:14I don't know if they were shooting back at him or what.
28:17But I seen him ducking a couple of times.
28:19That's when the car rolled.
28:22You seen the car rolling.
28:23And as that car hit the curb, it started shooting again in the car on the drive side.
28:28She says the shooter then ran back to his gray SUV and drove away.
28:33He got back in the car.
28:35Where did the car go?
28:37Straight with Fortify.
28:39Okay.
28:40All right. I appreciate it.
28:41You will.
28:43The information about the gray SUV was passed on to the troll.
28:47Anyone else?
28:49Any witnesses?
28:50The girl that's in the Joker shirt over there.
28:54He's open.
29:04Okay. Now tell me what happened.
29:07I was coming to the car about to get my medicine.
29:11The dude who hopped out on SUV, he was shooting at this car.
29:17He had on, like, some blue, like, some pins.
29:20They, like, blue jeans or something.
29:21And he had on, like, a jacket.
29:23Like, green.
29:25What his hat was like?
29:27He had a bald head.
29:29A high-tong?
29:30Like, five.
29:32What's his complexion?
29:34Dog skating, life skating.
29:36He's, like, a little brighter than you.
29:39And there's only one guy...
29:41Yes, man. One guy got that.
29:43Was he the passenger or the driver?
29:44No. He was the driver.
29:46All right.
29:53Why was he so pissed off about it?
29:55For you to get out your car and then come over and try to finish it up?
30:07I think we got Camden walking over to the side.
30:11This is the mom from Camden.
30:13We're talking mom.
30:20How did y'all know they're coming here?
30:22The young lady.
30:24Camden's mother says a friend of Camden called her with the news.
30:29She called my phone, and typically she don't call my phone.
30:32Yes, ma'am.
30:33And I said, hello.
30:35And she said, um, Miss Carmen, you at work?
30:38I said, yes, ma'am.
30:40She said, I need you to step outside.
30:43I said, okay.
30:44All right.
30:44So I stepped outside my job.
30:46I said, what's going on?
30:49And he told me that my baby was dead.
30:54She's saying anything about that she knew about what happened or what could have caused it or anything like that.
30:59No.
31:00You know if he was beefing with anybody or?
31:04I don't really know the guy's real name. They call him Jam Rock.
31:08Well, I guess back in October, they were saying that Jam Rock broke into my house.
31:13Cam?
31:14He had told me that they had been exchanging words back and forth about what he was going to do
31:19to them and stuff like that.
31:22We're working on that.
31:23You'll be the first person, once someone is arrested, we will call you first.
31:27If you receive information about someone saying this is who did it or anything like that, of course, give me
31:33a phone call now.
31:35All right. Thank you all.
31:41Then.
31:43The guy at the hospital.
31:45A hospital near the crime scene has admitted a black male patient who walked in with a gunshot wound.
31:52Jack bald head like everybody out here is describing.
31:56They got the camera in front of the hospital.
32:02That's nice.
32:20So he actually is shot.
32:22The man has a laceration wound across the back of the head.
32:27He's not like threatening.
32:29He's dropped off in a black money car.
32:35The guy.
32:35Then he's crashed his truck.
32:35They have to figure out.
32:36Oh, he dropped his truck off.
32:38The neighbors go onto the hospital.
32:47As the team wraps up the scene
32:55Officers find a gray SUV matching the description of the suspect vehicle
32:59A half mile away
33:01Founded, abandoned at 315 Avenue
33:07That's some pretty stuff
33:08It's gotta be
33:10Patrol should be over there
33:11And they're gonna stand by
33:12Until we can all make it over there
33:15Alright, I'll head over there
33:24We're at abandoned house
33:25Great job
33:32Oh wow
33:34Kiki, check this out
33:35Call that jackpot
33:40The guy this comes back to is at the hospital
33:43Blood on the vehicle
33:45On the driver's side
33:50You can tell by the laminate on the glass
33:52It's pointing inward
33:53So it would have been the force of the bullet going into the windshield
33:59It looks like he was shot while he was inside of the car
34:04That gun's still on the car
34:06We're gonna have to get a cert warrant
34:09This is gonna be our SUV that he pretty much stashed
34:13Parked the car here
34:14Got out
34:15Walked away and
34:16Probably found
34:17Someone to take on
34:21At least we have a possible suspect
34:23You know, hopefully he can give us our why
34:26Let's see what we got
34:27We got the hospital
34:36Hey man
34:37What's your name?
34:39My kid
34:41Sergeant Nick Cropot interviews the suspect
34:44So what happened to you, man?
34:47I pulled up on the side of the car
34:50Where'd that happen at?
34:53Among the chief
34:54The street he names
34:56Runs through the intersection of the crime scene
34:59So were you in a vehicle or on foot or?
35:02No, it was in my car
35:03Got you
35:05What kind of car you got?
35:08Volkswagen
35:09Volkswagen?
35:11What color is that?
35:13Three
35:14What happened?
35:16I just decided
35:19Did you shoot back or anything?
35:22Did you have a gun?
35:22No
35:24Did you see what kind of car they were in?
35:27No
35:27I don't know
35:28I got a shot in here
35:30So where's your car at right now?
35:32I don't know
35:34How did you get here?
35:36I'm out of
35:37Thanks for buying
35:39If you don't
35:39Let's leave the blood
35:40Come out of here
35:42I'm a little out of here
35:44I'll be able to give you a full statement
35:47I'll be able
35:48I mean, I ain't trying to not cooperate
35:51All right
35:53Hang tight, man, all right?
35:54All right
36:01Two hours later
36:04The suspect is brought to headquarters
36:07I think this is our guy
36:10I think we do have enough for a murder
36:12This guy drove his vehicle away from the scene
36:16Parked it at another location
36:18I think what I want to know is what's the history
36:22You know, behind these two guys
36:25I'm looking at, trying to find something for James David Wilson
36:32James David Wilson IV is 38 years old
36:40He was already arrested for murder before
36:44Yeah
36:46Said he pled guilty
36:47A former murder
36:49That's crazy
36:51Back in 2007
36:552291, St. Siemens, right?
36:57The previous incident occurred less than a block away from the shooting this afternoon
37:03Double homicide
37:04Double homicide with James Wilson back in 2007
37:07Happened here
37:08The double homicide with Camden and Van Kennedy is here
37:14Directly right across the street from here
37:18It's crazy
37:20Wilson served five years
37:22And was released ten years ago
37:25Hopefully you talk as well
37:29All right
37:29Let's go talk to him
37:45What's up, man?
37:46Let me kiss this chair right here real quick
37:55Oh, much, my dad, I ain't, my dad, I ain't, I ain't got nothing to say
38:00I had my hand, car got shot in the head, man
38:03I'm, I'm up here handcuffed
38:04Y'all treat me like I'm a person
38:10All right, give me a second, man
38:11Call your pop
38:21Hey, uh, Mr. Wilson
38:23Hey, uh, we're out here talking to your son
38:25And he said, uh, he want to talk to us
38:27But he wants you to be here with him
38:29He's here at headquarters for our investigation
38:32You want to come down here?
38:34All right
38:36He's gonna be on his way
38:44Yes, sir
38:47James' father arrives with an attorney
38:56He knows what happened
38:58I mean, if he want to talk to us
39:00And tell us his version about what happened
39:02Maybe we can sit down and do that
39:05Is somebody dead?
39:07Yeah, two people dead
39:09I'm gonna go get to work
39:10All right
39:11All right
39:16He can tell us to kick rocks all day long
39:18He can kick right at the metro gym
39:21All the DA's offers and see what they got to say
39:27Hey
39:29Rogers lays out the evidence to the DA
39:34Okay
39:35All right
39:36Appreciate it
39:39The, uh, ADA approved, uh
39:40The charges of, uh, two counts of murder
39:43And two counts of shooting to the occupied vehicle
39:48So, uh, that's good
39:49We can get him to, uh, metro jail
40:06Hello
40:06Hey, this, uh, Jackson
40:08Uh-huh
40:09Hey, this is Detective Rogers
40:11Yes
40:11Hey, uh, I'll just call him to tell you that, uh
40:13We made an arrest on your son's case
40:17Thank you so much
40:20The person that was responsible was, um, James Wilson
40:25That's the only individual?
40:27Yes, ma'am
40:28I-I really appreciate that so much
40:31You're welcome
40:32Okay
40:33Bye
40:34Bye
40:38Hello
40:39Hey, Mrs., uh, Williams
40:42Yes
40:42Okay
40:43Vance Mom
40:44Yes
40:45Okay
40:45Uh, I was calling to tell you that, uh, we made an arrest on your son's case
40:49Oh, you did?
40:50That's great
40:52Why, why do you say he do it?
40:55We don't know exactly why he did it
40:58Okay
41:00All right, all right, thank you
41:02All right, thank you
41:03All right
41:06The, the toughest part is to tell them that their, you know, that their loved one is deceased
41:10Um, you know, the better part of, of this is telling them that, you know, we actually made an arrest
41:18You know, so they don't, they don't have to have those sleepless nights warning, you know, who killed their loved
41:23one, who killed their child
41:37Four years later
41:40We learned that Jim Rock is James Wilson
41:44He confirmed there was beef with Camden and, uh, James
41:49When we went to trial, the defense attorneys were attempting to say that it was self-defense
41:54But because James Wilson was convicted of a double homicide 15 years prior, he had a duty to retreat
42:01He didn't do so, he exited his vehicle and executed both of our victims that were inside their vehicle
42:09That area in Tomeville is a, pretty much a busy intersection
42:13For you to have a, uh, shootout
42:16During that time, during, during daytime
42:18It shows that you don't care
42:21But James Wilson was found guilty of capital murder
42:39Although James Wilson was found guilty of the child, the priority of a wasn't guilty of marriage
42:41So, we're walking in the state of the United States
42:42So, we don't appreciate you
42:42But, in fact, it's impossible
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