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00:21good afternoon and welcome to beyond the headlines I'm DJ Moises this month we
00:27celebrate women not just for what they achieve but for who they choose to become in the process
00:33and today we go beyond the titles and into the journeys joining us is Binibining Pilipinas
00:40Grand International 2018 who also who also currently works with investment and promotions
00:46team under the provincial governor's office attorney Eva Patalinghog hello Eva welcome to
00:52be on the headlines thank you DJ Moises for inviting me full name good good afternoon
00:59everybody so you've been to kind of pageant stage you also are now a lawyer and then you also in
01:11are
01:12into public service I'm sure you have understood pressure in different different ways now so how
01:21do you normally react when you're stuck in traffic I was expecting like a heavy heavy question and
01:31then shifted to oh how do I respond when I'm stuck in traffic yes I listen to good music and
01:38I sing and
01:39dance okay so what's in your playlist um kelani because I want to dance I also like junella
01:55singing manila okay so that's in my playlist okay and then last I also have is it raining in manila
02:06really
02:06speaking of raining in manila do you also sing I can carry a tune but I'd rather dance
02:19because uh because uh I I I I my talent is dancing not singing how I wish I am like
02:27just sara g
02:28so how did you get into pageantry so what was that the trigger or the motivation
02:38hmm actually my my mother introduced me to pageantry when I was a kid
02:45uh frustrated she was a frustrated beauty queen so yeah so if if night little miss uh uno
02:55um uh join ko it was uh I was not obsessing about pageantry before but it came as an opportunity
03:04for me
03:05especially especially if you introduce to mom you introduce to the principal in school I always join
03:12mga miss sports fest muse I get to be the president sometimes of the of the class and the muse
03:20so two
03:21president and muse because there was a time the mutually exclusive yeah if you're the bright one go to the
03:28president and then and then completely muse but wow both both both yeah give me more so good na
03:35muse strategy yeah so what at what stage man when you can have decided that yes pageantry is a path
03:46I will take
03:48when it was introduced to me
03:50I realized that um pageantry was more than just beauty aesthetics I realized it was more than that
03:58it can be a platform for uh advocacy purpose and of course representation that was when I realized also
04:08that I can use this pageantry as a stepping stone for everything else I know that you have also competed
04:18kind of international and you know representing the philippines but what were the major at least for our
04:24viewers what were the major crowns man now maybe you can walk us through no major major out of the
04:31hundreds of actually I started national because I joined the the sport muse competition like the
04:41sivira i was miss sivira before miss palarong pambansa and then after i i became a registered nurse my
04:51handler opened the doors for me for mutia ng pilipinas because of course i joined miss cebu here but the
04:57national ones is the mutia ng pilipinas surprisingly surprisingly i say surprisingly because when i joined there are a lot
05:05of
05:05veterans uh veterans uh already in the batch yeah in the batch and i kind of felt insecure at that
05:11time
05:12because it was my first time like legit pageant national so surprisingly i won mutia ng pilipinas
05:21asia pacific international which is which is now 10 years after i became mutia ng pilipinas asia pacific
05:29i became the president of the international miss asia pacific international so it was a full circle
05:37moment for me now didn't isha full circle or back circle you know just kidding what were the
05:45non-beauty queen traits men that you have that would surprise your friends
05:59non-beauty queen traits like okay because when you say be a beauty queen graceful
06:08composed actually like when i just sit here and just like keep quiet you would think
06:24but when you talk to me i mean just like what we did earlier
06:33they had a hard time setting us up yeah i know because like never ending on chica
06:42so among the titles i think i can already guess your answer but anyhow so that you can also articulate
06:47more among your many titles what was the most defining one man for you aside from being a mother
06:56uh but when you say titles of the pageant yeah uh it was representing the philippines in the
07:04international stage i joined miss grand international i carried the philippine sash across my heart
07:10and that was a very humbling and defining moment for me because i was just not representing myself
07:16anymore i was representing our nation and that felt very um grounding and humbling for me
07:24at that moment did you feel 100 percent ready or you were at a time in which you're still processing
07:32what you wanted to accomplish pa honestly both both i felt ready because already in the sense that you've
07:45studied you've um prepared yourself physically mentally psychologically
07:53but nothing really prepares you for everything you just have to learn as you go you have to continue
08:00um learning because really uh you just have to um keep going right so i felt ready but i just
08:11learned along
08:12the way maybe it's not in the set question no it's but but but but but because i i because
08:20you mentioned
08:20about there's a lot of preparation divide i think a lot of our viewers don't have that much understanding
08:28of the preparations that actually queens representing the philippines go through so maybe you can walk us
08:35through the major ones through the major ones okay beauty queen i mean pageantry especially when you compete
08:41and represent the philippines it's already like a sport no it is a sport correct it's one of the bbb
08:48basketball boxing beauty pageant bbb
08:54gravity kato ang standards annie right because beauty queens have a lot of preparations
09:01dili lang ang outside but internally sometimes it look no lang ang ako ang kanon
09:08it look o saging nasaba na lang for how many it depends if na nasa goal ni mo plus mag
09:15gym
09:15padjud ka and then mag study padjud ka kaitungod imohang i brush tanan ang mga current events
09:24because beauty queens now edi naman simple ang mga questions like what makes you blush
09:29who is your crush what food do you eat that's not the kind of questions that are being asked
09:35right now it's current events diba so that you have to brush everything from studying from making
09:44yourself look good preparing yourself mentally it's it's really exhausting but worth it at the same
09:52time so mental endurance judcia speaking of mental endurance
09:58wow connecting from one question to the other okay what is your opinion
10:05what's your opinion what's your opinion what's your opinion what's your opinion what's your opinion
10:10so you canisha is i've read somewhere and canang they said na if all the beauty queens meant
10:21their advocacies half of the world's problems should have been solved by now i agree yes so what are
10:30your thoughts about getting perception not all beauty queens actually live up to their advocacies
10:36you're so controversial
10:37i mean not everybody gets to be given uh a nice platform to continue their advocacy but that doesn't
10:48mean it's not in their heart um i'm just lucky that uh i get to meet a lot of people
10:56that's why i get to
10:57hone uh the the advocacy or legacy that i want to continue uh apart from being just a beauty queen
11:07so
11:09i know all the beauty queens will get there maybe not now but they will so how do you normally
11:16add
11:17because you're among those who really live up no to wow thank you yeah your advocacies and you have also
11:23kind of moved on to other kind of priorities also to continue making a mark so what are your usual
11:31advice to young women who are also pursuing this path so that they can make the most of the platform
11:42if you put your mind into something you have to really believe it and you have to see it through
11:48um i know i know all the beauty queens have the heart naman talaga i really know that um deep
11:58in their
11:59hearts they want to help and they want to use their platforms their voices to to um amplify or to
12:06represent
12:07they want the causes yeah the causes they want to represent so um there's you know growth man good is
12:18uh a continuous process so you have to just keep on going you have to believe in yourself of course
12:27faith in the lord guy he always delivers so you just have to keep going um learn through everything
12:35with all the experiences that you have and of course believe on the the purpose and the voice and the
12:41advocacy that you have so that if you really if you really want it and you really have uh the
12:50heart for
12:50it you find ways you really find a way yeah so now yours is not a completely unique path
13:02but it's not the usual route no that people would see uh on pageant queens because you are a lawyer
13:11now
13:12you know so that means you were not a lawyer when you entered pageantry but when you went out of
13:16pageantry yeah you became a lawyer now so what led you to law school actually my my choice was
13:28being a doctor being a doctor or a lawyer actually because you're a registered nurse i am a registered
13:33yeah so uh it has always been becoming a doctor or a lawyer but they seem to be not the
13:43same not the
13:44same domain right but the same uh becoming a doctor a lawyer will uh be able to help you uh
13:54bring change or
13:55impact other people's life so either or a judenacy yeah but why did law school win in the end actually
14:03it was a funny story because that's why i became a registered nurse because i wanted to become an
14:10a doctor so when i won with yanong pilipinas i i i i worked there for two years in manila
14:18manila i became a brand manager of a well-known brand and then i realized why i am why am
14:27i here in manila
14:28why am i working so hard it just hit me
14:37manila i was supposed to become a doctor or a lawyer should i just stay here and become that and
14:44pursue
14:44this path or should i go back to my purpose and then i said i want to go back to
14:50my purpose i wanted
14:51to start again that's already a career in itself yeah it's a career in itself already but that was not
15:01my dream that was not my goal that was not my goal it just happened i was given that opportunity
15:07and
15:08then i pursued it for a time so so when i came back i told my dad ready to be
15:15a doctor
15:20but it doesn't mean that i love lawless i just chose doctor first first yeah i wanted to become a
15:28doctor so uh i said to my dad i wanted to pursue medicine now i'm ready
15:47yeah full time yeah full time medicine you have to do full time correct oh i cannot work anymore
15:54my savings if in any monday now i have to just shell out yeah shell out i just might i
16:04just
16:05shell out nalang sa law school okay truth be told manageable manageable man
16:11siya compared to medicine correct so yeah we shall out nalang kung ako sa law school and i did not
16:18pursue
16:18and then i i fell in love with law school so best of both worlds right so what made you
16:25fell in love
16:26when with law school i've always been asked that and i always say that i want to be part of
16:35every
16:36justice being done yeah like every day you see gaps in the system right rather just observing i really feel
16:45that i want to become part of it in a sense right i want to be part of the change
16:55not just being an
16:57observant so i'm very happy that i'm a lawyer now because i can i could use my uh platform to
17:06be able to
17:06make change actually because before the the show started and that's why i can relate to what you just
17:12said the reason also that i wanted to become a lawyer although i did not enter law school unlike
17:18you it's not too late never too late because i joined an outreach at the provincial jail
17:26and then that's when i realized that there were people who were there for petty crimes
17:32but because they pleaded not guilty they ended up staying there for two years
17:38yeah for a crime that would have been just months yeah in jail so naka remember you go because
17:44ang root cause and okay there was shortage yeah of of opportunities for them to be tried
17:50naka dungo yung guadunirin siya nga kung nakabalo lang may nga maabot dahi miglima katuig din him
17:55may pinipili na lang may guilty yeah and kala diba so i would agree naka nang
18:00there are a lot of gaps in the system june and you're very fortunate because you now can do something
18:05yeah i can do something that's why i wanna do something maybe delay pass pass but at least
18:13i will be those few who will stand for change right for good change change is coming but anyway
18:22law school is known to be okay okay law school is known to be demanding so what was the biggest
18:32adjustment for you what i told you it was like mental endurance especially i already had a child
18:43especially it was also pandemic so it was very challenging for me but what kept me going was
18:50going back always to my purpose so see what were the on saman ka nang mga anecdotes no of
18:58the of of the challenges challenges it was especially challenging during the pandemic um
19:05because online naman ang classes and then um of course nag take care ko sa ako ang sun
19:13so i get to sometimes experience
19:17experience na ako ang pusilon pusilon man ang tawag
19:21recitations
19:22i experience na ako ang matimingan
19:25mapusilan and then yes nagunit ko
19:29it's true nagunit ko sa ako ang anak and then i have to turn on the volume
19:34or the the microphone because i have to answer so while answering of course
19:40makuhaan man ka sa emotions di ba ma-unlatch
19:44oh
19:44muhilak
19:46oh
19:46makadawang ganan
19:49upiyong nalang kunyumwana nalang ako ang maestro
19:52patutuya sana
19:53day
19:56oh
19:57no attorney i'm okay to proceed
19:59latch balik
20:01or
20:03i cannot hold a book anymore
20:06so i use
20:08my phone to read
20:10and to hold my baby on the other
20:13on the other hand
20:14and read nalang through my phone
20:16i cannot highlight anymore
20:18you have to do what you can
20:22and make use of what you have
20:24so
20:24mo na akong gibuhat
20:26so like
20:26kanida because
20:27um
20:28a lot of people were also curious
20:30during the pandemic
20:31in the overall
20:32were the professors more compassionate
20:34or they still retained
20:36the tough love
20:38no
20:39that they give
20:40the pandemic did not change them
20:43tell us more about it
20:46one professor
20:57one professor
20:58which i love this professor
21:00hi
21:02i will not say your name
21:03but you know who you are
21:06if during the school setting
21:08or
21:09classroom setting
21:10he will turn off
21:12if you get
21:14called for recitation
21:15he will turn off the lights
21:17so that you can read your
21:18notes
21:20but because we are online
21:22you cannot see if i have notes
21:24everywhere right
21:25i have notes
21:26there
21:27but his
21:28strategy
21:29was to
21:30let
21:31us be
21:32blindfolded
21:33but instead of me
21:35answering
21:36properly
21:37if you are blindfolded
21:39you are
21:39going to do it
21:41yes
21:41help you
21:42that
21:43i will
21:44i will
21:44tell you
21:45so
21:45the ending
22:01So instead of focusing, it even lets you rest.
22:06Yeah.
22:06Your brain rest, no?
22:08Your brain rest.
22:09It shuts off.
22:17So you'll be able to concentrate, not close your eyes.
22:21You'll fall asleep.
22:23Yeah, actually, it takes an experience that will be able to prove that, no?
22:27Sige.
22:28So at that time, you were already binibining Pilipinas, di ba?
22:32So was there a pressure also that you felt that you had to prove yourself in a different field this
22:41time?
22:42I really like that question because I get to experience that every day, not just during my law school.
22:50Because I was branded as a beauty queen, di ba?
22:53And then now you're in a different field or in a different space.
22:57Tanawa na tobe.
22:58Tanawa na tobe.
22:58Tanawa, the pride ba ni Sia?
23:00Tanawa, thank the other classmates.
23:03They will tell me,
23:04Mata itong pinna-beauty queen answer?
23:07Anang ko,Poran, manig-stereotype man siguro ni.
23:11But, um,
23:14Ang akoan na lang is, you have to prove them wrong.
23:18Like, may capabilities.
23:22Ang akoang gigiparita.
23:24I let my work do the talk ba?
23:27so that I get to change their perception of me.
23:31So I keep on doing that every day, even until now.
23:35And you were able to pass the bar on first take.
23:41Not everybody gets to be blessed and have earned that blessing.
23:47Yes, yes. Thank you.
23:48So how did you redefine yourself when you transitioned from Binibining Pilipinas to attorney?
23:58So how did you rebrand or redefine how people perceive you?
24:05I actually did not rebrand.
24:09I collaborated what I had and what I have.
24:14So I'm a lawyer beauty queen.
24:17I can have both. Why not?
24:21And then what does being a lawyer, what is it teaching you?
24:26That pageantry did not.
24:28Good question.
24:32Good question.
24:34It taught me siguro rigor.
24:39Because pageantry taught me confidence, how to carry myself with intention, communication.
24:49But with law school, grabe yung mental endurance, it taught you how to be analytical, how to compose yourself, even
25:00in a very exhausted or very competitive environment.
25:08So, but with public service, I get to combine both.
25:13So, before we get into public service, back to you, back to you.
25:21If, can you, pageant question in 30 seconds, just kidding, just kidding.
25:27If you are allowed to just go back to one moment in your life, crowning, Binibining Pilipinas, or bar exam,
25:41isa lang imong pwedeng balikan.
25:44So, if there's any moment lang that you're allowed to relive again, crowning moments in Binibining Pilipinas, or katong nipasar
25:58ka sa bar exam.
26:01Because both have different feelings.
26:04But you just have to pick one.
26:05Whoa, it's so hard.
26:09It's so hard, huh?
26:10Because I was happy in both events.
26:13Ah, okay.
26:15It was a different feeling.
26:18But I have to choose.
26:21Oh!
26:25This, that's a hard question.
26:27Okay, so it's a slight edge, 9.1.
26:30Of course, becoming a lawyer was, of course, 9.1.
26:35Yeah, because it was me growing and stepping on a bigger platform, ba?
26:44So, it was becoming a lawyer.
26:46So, this one is the combination of both, no?
26:49So, what do you think are the mindsets, man?
26:51Or what is the mindset that helped you succeed in both?
26:55Common ground na ni nila.
26:57Mindset, huh?
26:58What's my mindset?
27:00Hmm.
27:02That helped me.
27:03Kanang succeed in both.
27:05So, nasa na yung common mindset, no?
27:09Mindset na ko was the sense of responsibility, discipline, of course, resilience, kay.
27:17Sometimes, things just don't go your way.
27:20But you have to make do of what you have and what's thrown at you.
27:24So, yeah.
27:26Mona ang nakapa, padayo na ko, Jude.
27:30Horser, kinanaana kasi mga answer.
27:33What?
27:34Determination and my resiliency is what kept me going.
27:38Now, this one is in the context also of kanang people watching, whether they're women or men or kanang into
27:46pageantry or not.
27:48How important also is being surrounded with the right people?
27:52Right.
27:53Very crucial.
27:55Because it can either, those people can either exhaust you or they can sustain you.
28:04So, you have to be surrounded by people who support you and lift up you and inspire you at the
28:11same time because those people are the ones who will sustain you and help you grow and develop.
28:18So, I'm very thankful that I'm surrounded with people just like that because especially my family, my kids and those
28:26people that I love who inspires me a lot.
28:28But they keep me going and they keep me grounded even there's a lot of external validation.
28:36So, that's why I never stop or never rest on my laurels.
28:43And, Kinilang, before we go into the next question because there's something lang that I'm also kind of struck by
28:51your answer ba?
28:52Because you're a celebrity, whether a public servant, whether a lawyer, or whether a beauty queen, you're a celebrity.
28:59How do you also manage to tune out the correct voice that you should hear?
29:05Ah, no.
29:06Tune in to the correct voice that you should hear.
29:09And for the rest, how do you tune them out?
29:13Ah, right.
29:15Okay, I'm sure there are a lot of people telling you what you should do and what you should not
29:21do.
29:22Yeah, yeah.
29:23I always go back to what I want and who I am because if you really know who you are
29:32and your purpose in life, then you go back to that despite of all the noise outside.
29:40You should always believe on the capabilities that you have.
29:45May sandaga na kayo, mga bashing.
29:49Or na po yung mga bola-bola ngayon like this or like that.
29:51External validations.
29:53Like I said, there are a lot of external validations, maybe good or bad.
29:57Correct.
29:57For as long as you know yourself and you know what you're doing and you're not stepping on anyone's shoes,
30:03then you just have to believe in that and just tune the rest out.
30:10Yeah.
30:11So that's all noise.
30:13Correct.
30:13Of course, you have to learn how to appreciate those good validations.
30:17Correct.
30:18But I have to also know how to take up those criticisms that of course will improve me.
30:28Di ma sag ko tundak ka ng defsad sa mga kanang valid na mga feedback, di ba?
30:36Of course, that's how you grow.
30:37And actually, the reason that I also liked when you said about validations, this is an inside joke sa kong
30:45friends, we have, we know an artist, blind item nala, and then very badly written yung song and badly recorded,
30:53at least in our opinion.
30:54Yeah, pareho gidmei, when we heard the song niya gidmei, wala ni siya yung friend, no?
30:59Meaning, giingan siguro siya nga nicely, nicely, nicely, but it's not nice.
31:04Yeah, that's why, so that's why na po yung screening sa validations.
31:08Yeah, na yung screening, but of course, kung kay bau jud ka sa iyo mong hwang sal, palik jud ka
31:14di ha?
31:14Okay, that would have been the filter.
31:16Yeah.
31:16Thank you for the positive feedback, but.
31:19I agree with you, I don't agree with you, but I'm open to your criticisms, ba.
31:24Sige na, let's talk about public service.
31:26So what led you to public service?
31:29I've been drawn to public service and impact for a very long time already.
31:34Because my family was, I have a like a political family.
31:41Continue, sige.
31:42Oh, but the last name, yes.
31:45Yeah.
31:46I was not able to link.
31:48Oh yeah, so now you know.
31:49I have a political family.
31:51So like when, ever since we were children, we get to go with our grandfather, our grandmother, our dad, to
32:04when they go out and do public service.
32:07So when I graduated, I've always been drawn to public service because I felt that I could create more impact
32:17when I serve through the public.
32:21I can create more opportunities and meet a lot of people through that.
32:29Sige, so Kenisha is, if you are to pick one again.
32:33Oh?
32:34So if you smile, if you smile, if you smile, if you smile, if you smile, if you are to
32:40pick outer beauty or inner peace.
32:47What?
32:49World peace.
32:50Sige nao.
32:52Outer beauty or inner peace.
32:54Mm-hmm.
32:55Isanay pilion.
32:56Lisuran saadaan mag-choose a one.
32:58Because why can't you have both?
33:00Sige ka?
33:01Which is actually what you are living, no?
33:03Because you're blending, no?
33:06Yeah.
33:07Different type of experiences.
33:08But for this one, I'm strict.
33:10Wow, strict.
33:10Because in a world where people let you choose one, why only one?
33:17You can be so much more.
33:19Sige, point one na lang.
33:20Sige, point one.
33:21Inner peace na lang.
33:24World peace.
33:25Sige, help.
33:26Sige, we'll elaborate more on the inner peace.
33:29Why is it kind of point one more important than outer beauty?
33:33Ang inner peace?
33:34Mm-hmm.
33:35Because if you're not grounded and you're not contented of what you have in life,
33:42no matter how beautiful you are, it will never be enough.
33:46Correct.
33:47Oh, wow.
33:48Ano, nasad ko.
33:49Okay.
33:49Sige.
33:50Now, given the transitions, the good transitions that you've been going through,
33:57how do you also approach, how do you also approach change?
34:03Okay, Murad, it's going out from one comfort zone to the next.
34:09How do you also approach change?
34:12I embrace it.
34:14Because as cliche as it may sound, change is coming.
34:20There will always be changes in your life.
34:23But you have to embrace change because that will make you grow and develop into somebody that you want.
34:33Diba?
34:34Because I know we have viewers, and I also even have that question.
34:38Diba, Murad?
34:39There are movements in our lives.
34:42What are your guideposts that you can say that from being a beauty queen and then going to the lawyer,
34:48but you're looking at this is the time to do it now.
34:54Or lawyer and then public service, and then this is the time to do it now.
34:58You have to draw the line.
35:00Drawing the line.
35:01I get what you're saying, but for me, there's no perfect timing.
35:11Sometimes, it's not about feeling ready.
35:16It's just keep on going and doing what you can and learning through it.
35:23As you move along.
35:24Yeah, as you move along.
35:25If you don't know how to do it, you learn as you go along.
35:29Okay, you don't have to wait for the perfect time because opportunities come and go.
35:36So, you have to seize the day.
35:41That's it.
35:42Alright.
35:43Okay.
35:43Sige.
35:44And then, what about in moments, and maybe you can share when you were transitioning to become a lawyer
35:51or now public service.
35:53What about in those moments that you felt unsure or afraid to start over, just in case you will fail?
36:05What's also the one that you keep telling yourself,
36:09uh-oh, this is, looks like it's not working.
36:12But?
36:12Oh-oh, mantra starting over.
36:15Oh, it's not working.
36:17Okay, but?
36:18Sige.
36:19Okay, that's it.
36:20Fear and the fear of, like, failing and those uncertainties, right?
36:26Like, of course, sometimes it will catch up to you, but you should never, ever let that uncertainty or fear
36:35take over what you want to do in your life.
36:38If ever, use it as your strength.
36:43So, that's what I...
36:43The lesson, no?
36:44Yeah.
36:45So, like, if this does not work for me, then there are other opportunities for me.
36:53God has other opportunities for me.
36:55So, just keep on going.
36:57We are never denied.
37:00Only we are...
37:00Yes, I agree.
37:03Sige.
37:04And then, you mentioned, Moni, when it happens to you a lot, not just in law school,
37:09when people put you in a box, how do you also, like, no, I'm going out of this box?
37:16That's what I always say.
37:19Sometimes, when people put me in a box...
37:22This is just what you can do.
37:24Yeah, this is you, and you're not allowed to do anything outside that box.
37:30But I don't let that stop me from pursuing what I want.
37:34It's the work that I let other people see.
37:41It's my capabilities that I show, so that I get to change their perception that, ah, you can be both,
37:51or you can be multiple versions of yourself, and be good at it.
37:57So, yeah.
37:58And consistent, that's why, if I'm going to ask you to pick just one...
38:03Oh, yeah, because I don't want to pick one.
38:05Correct.
38:05There are so many possibilities.
38:07Yeah, it kind of...
38:09If we can, if we just put our minds into it, we can really do something.
38:16You make do, you make more time.
38:20This has been a good conversation.
38:23I can actually see the consistency from what you say, and also from what you are doing today.
38:32So, thank you very much for making time, and for joining us in this episode.
38:37Thank you so much.
38:38Which is an honor that I get to be invited here for Women's Month.
38:42And we hope to continue to have you here as we move forward.
38:46Yes, in the future, when I get to build my legacy projects, I will come back here.
38:52So, thank you very much.
38:54And hope for that to happen very soon.
38:56Yes, yes.
38:57So, the National Women's Month, we are reminded that strength takes many forms, sometimes seen in achievement, and often in
39:05the courage to grow, to change,
39:07to keep learning, and to keep moving forward.
39:11So, I'm DJ Moises.
39:12This has been Beyond the Headlines.
39:14Thank you, and have a good afternoon.
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