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CTP (S3E147) Toxic Empathy - Do You Want A Dream (Delusion) Or A Mirror (Reality) - the TOXIC EMPATHY (syndrome, and book by that name) discussion
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We challenge the idea that empathy is always a virtue and argue that “toxic empathy” can be used to push people toward harmful outcomes. We mix cultural critique with satire and a tough-love call to choose reality over comforting delusion.
• why we release a former video exclusive as audio
• the difference between wanting to be good and being useful
• how toxic empathy reframes harm as compassion
• why feelings can’t replace facts in moral decisions
• the gap between classical liberal instincts and ideological activism
• satire and songs as a way to expose denial and outrage loops
• the case for tough love and speaking hard truths
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:06I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D, it's the French, it's not, it's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:24Let's get on with the show!
00:26Hello, gang, how are you doing?
00:30This is a cheat segment.
00:34I am recording this as a lead-in to a standard Saturday show
00:43that is going to air through the audio platforms, 25 plus, of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:54What was formerly a CTP video exclusive that I feel needs to go out as a regular show.
01:05So, bear that in mind, when recorded, it was a video exclusive.
01:11The dates, it could be from a month ago, it could be from a couple months ago.
01:17So, bear that in mind, when you hear things regarding time frames, it may be from a while ago.
01:27So, particular references may be a little dated.
01:34I normally don't promote other people's books.
01:39I mean, yes, Perstitutionalist Podcast, I've had authors on all the time, able to talk about writing,
01:50and their books, promote their book.
01:53I'm happy to do that.
01:55But I mean, like a movie review.
01:59I do those on occasion and promote movies I like.
02:04I've even had books slash authors weeks, October of 2025.
02:10That ran for, what, I think three weeks.
02:13Various authors on.
02:15I normally don't do this.
02:17What is this?
02:19Well, I'm talking about going to, indeed, talk directly, myself, my personal thought on someone else's book.
02:32And recently, I just came from Nana's Kitchen again, and I was just thinking about, you know, people, people in
02:42general.
02:43There's someone there that's got TDS.
02:47It was like, she's, I know she's a great person, but that's what brought this thought about.
02:53And I think most people want to be good people.
02:59And Matthew 23, fakes, frauds, vipers, snakes, false guides, blind guide, Christians want to be good people.
03:10They think they're good people, but they're misled.
03:14They're easily duped.
03:17And why am I saying this?
03:19The book I'm talking about?
03:22Toxic Empathy.
03:23Perfect timing.
03:26Absolute great book.
03:27Very important book.
03:30Beyond my books, of course.
03:31You should be reading all my books, especially my constitutional series on books.
03:39Toxic Empathy, but toxic empathy nails it.
03:43People who are, want to be good, and the problem feel they're good people.
03:50They don't wise at the right, fool to the left.
03:54The feelings of a fool's, feeling of leftist fools.
03:58The Bible predicted this.
04:01Prophesized our left-right political paradigm.
04:07They're not thinkers.
04:08They don't think anything through.
04:10Toxic empathy.
04:12Yes, these people who think it's compassionate and so empathetic to give free, clean needles to heroin addicts.
04:24You're not being compassionate.
04:27You're an enabler to bad habits.
04:31Something that could kill them.
04:34You're not helping them.
04:36You're helping them commit suicide.
04:38But these same people, of course, are all for abortion, murdering children.
04:44Oh, that's somehow empathy to murder children who have had no life yet, done nothing to no one, and are
04:54for euthanasia.
04:55They're easily duped into because of toxic empathy.
05:01Perfect book.
05:02Great book.
05:03Absolute necessary for our time.
05:05Most people want to be good.
05:07Most people feel, I almost said think, feel they're good.
05:13In my whole life and living series of books about trying to sew good, be better ourselves, reflecting.
05:22Look at Michael Jackson-esque.
05:24Look at the man or woman in the mirror asking them to change their way, be a better person.
05:31Rick Springfield, Karma album, the Karma song itself.
05:38The line, the line, my line, my line.
05:42Now I'm thinking of an old Detroit Zoo commercial.
05:46Yeah, that line.
05:47Oh, every little love I give to another.
05:51You know what I believe?
05:52It comes back to me.
05:54You don't have to be a Christian to believe that sentiment.
06:00But it's not biblical, not in the Bible or of, from the Bible, but it's very biblical.
06:07And also Springfield's prayer, kind of like Michael Jackson's song.
06:12I send a prayer to heaven for the chance to be a better man than the man or woman that
06:21I see,
06:21reflected in my mirror, wanting to be better, not being foolish and falling for the woke, toxic empathy.
06:31Most people are good.
06:33Most people might be liberal, not leftist, as I go into in my Constitutionalist Education series.
06:40As Dennis Prager says, there's a difference between a classical liberal who feels their way but are duped by the
06:52left-hard, woke, idiocy, nonsense, toxic empathy.
07:00They're misled.
07:01They're misguided.
07:04You can reach a classical liberal still, like Brandon Strzok, spelled Strzok out, pronounced Strzok, created the walk-away movement,
07:15a gay white guy, right?
07:17And Candace Owens, she red-pilled, but she's more retard-pilled of late with her nuttiness.
07:29So she's not a great example, but yeah, she got red-pilled, but now she's moved on to overdosing on
07:37retard pills.
07:39But she created Blexit.
07:41The Blexit movement is still something sound, solid, good, even though she's gone, woo-hoo, cypher-sill, right?
07:53Insane in the membrane.
07:54And she's not toxic empathy, toxic overthink.
08:00I want you to be a thinker.
08:03I don't want you to be an overthinker in a way, like toxic thinking.
08:09Maybe I should write that book, toxic thinking.
08:12Candace Owens, a case study.
08:15It's the subtitle.
08:17Anyway, Toxic Empathy, I recommend the book.
08:21I do.
08:22I really do.
08:25All right, I've rambled enough.
08:28This has gone longer than it needs to be.
08:30I think I've laid out everything that needs to be said.
08:34Thank you all.
08:35Take care.
08:35God bless.
08:36Love you all.
08:49Is there a blood test for stupid?
08:53Can we just scream for that?
08:56Stick out your arm for a moment.
09:00Find where the thinking's flat.
09:02Can't fit stupid, they tell me, like it's a law of the land.
09:09But I'd sign up for the trial run if someone just took a stand.
09:16Yeah.
09:18Is there a blood test for stupid?
09:21Line them up.
09:23Take a try.
09:24For the sake of everybody who still cares enough to ask why.
09:31Ignorance is bliss.
09:33They're laughing.
09:35High on their own illusion.
09:38We're the ones paying the price.
09:42Drowning in the confusion.
09:45Hey!
09:48They say they're saving the future
09:51Shouting in matching shirts
09:54Sharing a thousand truth memes
09:58Till reality hurts
10:01Faith in a cartoon version
10:04Facts in a shallow grave
10:08We're stuck clean in the wreckage
10:11Of every feel-good crusade
10:16As Barnum said long ago
10:19Sucker born every minute
10:22These left loons constantly show
10:25They got TDS and just can't quit it
10:29Is there a blood test for stupid?
10:32Line them up.
10:34Hey!
10:34Take a try
10:35For the sake of everybody
10:38Who still cares enough to ask why
10:42Ignorance is bliss.
10:43They're laughing
10:45High on their own illusion
10:48We're the ones paying the price
10:52Drowning in the confusion
10:56Draw the light
10:58Draw the vial
11:00Can we diagnose denial?
11:03If there's a cure
11:05If there's a cure
11:05One small shot
11:06Hit the harp
11:08Change of thought
11:13Is there a blood test for stupid?
11:16Line them up.
11:18Line them up.
11:18Take a try
11:19For the sake of everybody
11:22Who still cares enough to ask why
11:26Ignorance is bliss.
11:28Hey!
11:28They're laughing
11:29Lost in their bright delusion
11:32We're the ones holding the bill
11:36We're the ones holding the bill
11:36Bleeding out in the confusion
11:39Is there a blood test for stupid?
11:42Can't fix stupid
11:45So they say
11:46Wish someone would try
11:48For sake of all anyway
11:51Ignorance is bliss
11:53Left loves their delusion
11:55Rest of us suffer
11:57In the confusion
11:59They scream about no kings
12:02In a nation
12:03Ditch the crown
12:04Two-fifty-ish years ago now
12:08These folks are clowns
12:21Mmmmm
12:25Mmmmm
12:27Mmmmm
12:30Mmmmm
12:31Only thing necessary
12:34For evil prevail
12:37What they say
12:39Good peoples do nothing
12:41Doing nothing
12:43They stayed with most today
12:49The world keeps turning
12:52A dark, strange place
12:56Good folks are yearning
13:00For a saving grace
13:04A ship has sailed
13:07A ship has sailed
13:07They say
13:08On a troubled tide
13:11But what do you do today
13:15With nowhere to hide
13:20Questions I've been asking
13:22In all my writing
13:24To watch your move
13:27Just what about is it
13:30You're willing to try to do
13:34Evil prevails
13:37Evil prevails
13:37When good just sleeps
13:41Light sometimes fails
13:45While the darkness creeps
13:49What are you doing now
13:52Tell me, tell me
13:53How will you take a bow
13:56For all to see
14:04For all to see
14:05The news it screams
14:07A broken sound
14:09Lost in bad dreams
14:11On hallowed ground
14:12They say it's all lost cause
14:15A losing fight
14:16But what about your applause
14:18For what is right
14:20Only thing it takes
14:21For shadow to prevail
14:23Is a crowd of quiet hearts
14:25Scroll inside
14:26Then turn away
14:28Say
14:29This world is torn apart
14:34Shit's gone out
14:37Past the rusted pier
14:39We just watch it fade
14:42On this falling ground
14:45We're standing
14:46Still afraid to wait
14:49So what are you doing
14:53What are you doing
14:55What are you doing now
14:57To help the light
14:59Help the light
15:00Help the light
15:02Break through the doubt
15:04Are you just waiting
15:07For someone else to move
15:11Or will you stand
15:14Will you stand
15:15Will you stand
15:16And be the proof
15:19Tell me
15:20What are you doing
15:27What are you doing
15:36Good folks in a quiet room
15:38Hands clean
15:39Eyes closed
15:40Say someday
15:41I'll make a change
15:42Someday
15:43Never shows
15:44Every hurt
15:45You walk right past
15:46Cuts a deeper line
15:47Every that's not up to me
15:49Helps the dark align
15:51So what are you doing
15:54What are you doing now
15:59To help the light
16:01Help the light
16:02Help the light
16:04Break through the doubt
16:06Are you just waiting
16:08For someone else to move
16:13Will you stand
16:16Will you stand
16:16Will you stand
16:17Will you stand
16:17And be the proof
16:21Tell me
16:22What are you doing
16:25What are you doing
16:28What are you doing
16:37It's a hard
16:39It's a hard
16:39Hard question
16:40Looking back at you
16:42Yeah
16:42In the mirror
16:43In the silence
16:44You already know
16:45What's true
16:45If you're breathing
16:46You're required
16:47To answer
16:48With your light
16:49Every minute
16:50That you're giving
16:51Takes a sign
17:00It's a hard
17:24It's a hard
17:24All sides accountable, spare me your BS talk
17:30You spin the story sideways, we walk in that straight walk
17:35Values and principles necessary, yeah, plodible
17:41Lip service is easy, living it, that's the obstacle
17:46No flip, flip, flip, flam from me
17:50I stand where you can see, consistent and firm
17:55That's key, that's what you'll always see
17:59From Patriots, the people
18:03From Patriots, the people
18:16You're selling us quick fixes
18:18We paint in long scars
18:21We measure you in actions
18:24Not speeches and gold cards
18:26We don't bow to titles, we question
18:29We stay free
18:32Respect is earned in daylight
18:35Not whispered behind screens
18:37No flip, flip, flip, flam from me
18:41I stand where you can see, consistent and firm
18:45That's key, that's what you'll always see
18:49From Patriots, the people
18:53We
18:54From Patriots, the people
18:59We stand up
19:03I hold all sides accountable
19:07Spare me your BS
19:09Values and principles
19:13Unnecessary
19:16Inlaughtable
19:23No flip, flip, flip, flam from me
19:29Consistent and firm
19:32Is what you'll always see
19:35From Patriots, the people
19:40We
19:46TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
19:48Hey, baby
19:50Ho, ho, yeah
19:54Sunrise, creepin' on a sleepy town
19:56Another Tuesday, another frown
19:58They wake up mad at everything
20:01What kind of news do they even bring
20:04TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
20:07Yeah, it's got them, they ain't got no home
20:09In reality, it's a sad scene
20:12Livin' in a permanent bad dream
20:14Uh, facts are just suggestions to their mind
20:18A different truth for all mankind
20:20They twist and turn, they shout and scream
20:23Lost inside their own little scheme, uh
20:26TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
20:28Yeah, it's got them, they ain't got no home
20:31In reality, it's a sad scene
20:33Livin' in a permanent bad dream
20:36Uh, oh, the outrage is constant, well
20:39Like a broken record off a forgotten trail
20:42Can't find it
20:43Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
20:46Uh, uh, they see what they wanna see
20:48No truth, no honesty
20:49Just loud, shout to me
20:50Tweets, livin' life on repeat
20:52Uh, always complainin', never explainin'
20:57Bye, yeah
20:58TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
21:00Yeah, that's the news from home
21:03TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
21:05They just can't leave it alone
21:07Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
21:09Bats hit em' hard like a brick
21:10Uh, they just get sick, sick, sick
21:12Their logic, it just ain't there
21:14Lost in the days of despair
21:16Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
21:17Why so mad?
21:18Why so blonde?
21:19Always beatin' that same drum
21:21Can't they see the light of day
21:24Just keep screamin' go away
21:27Ah, yeah
21:29TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
21:32Yeah, that's the news from home
21:34TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
21:37Ah, yeah, yeah
21:40TDS Tantrum Delusion Syndrome
21:55It ain't all sweet songs by the fire
21:59Warm hands, soft words, pretty choirs
22:07If I cut out the thorns from the story
22:13I'd be dressing up a grave as glory
22:16This is tough love gospel
22:19And I just can't fire shine
22:22If I sand down the edges
22:25I turn truth into a lie
22:29Reality or delusion
22:31I can't serve both sides
22:35I'm not here just for the choir
22:37I'm here where the hurt hearts hide
22:42Some pages bleed red in the margins
22:45Hard lines, hard calls, hard bargains
22:48If I skip over storms for your comfort
22:51Then your house gets washed in the flood water
22:55This is tough love gospel
22:57Not just can't fire shine
23:00If I sand down the edges
23:03I turn truth into a lie
23:06Reality or delusion
23:10I can't serve both sides
23:13I'm not here just for the choir
23:15I'm here where the hurt hearts hide
23:19Do you want a dream or do you want a mirror?
23:23Do you want a joke or do you want it clearer?
23:26If the truth cuts deep
23:27Let it cut through fear
23:29Better scars that heal
23:30Than a sweet lie in your ear
23:34This ain't cotton candy truth
23:36Ain't a campfire sing-along rhyme
23:40You can't sell sweet dreams
23:43While the house burns behind
23:45If it never cuts deep
23:48It will sugar all along
23:51If you skip the hard pages
23:54You just rewrote the song
23:58This is tough love gospel
24:01Not rainbows on a wire
24:04If you hide the hard words
24:07You're just planting the fire
24:10I won't preach delusion
24:13Just to make it sound lighter
24:16If I only sue the choir
24:19I'm a singer, not a fighter
24:23You can hum all the feel-good lines
24:27While your neighbor breaks inside
24:30Quote hope like a slogan
24:33And look away from the crime
24:36But a bandage on a bulletproof
24:39Is a pretty little lie
24:41If the truth never offends us
24:45Did we ever even try?
24:48This is tough love gospel
24:50Not rainbows on a wire
24:53If you hide the hard work
24:56You're just planting the fire
24:59I won't preach delusion
25:02Just to make it sound lighter
25:05If I only sue the choir
25:08I'm a singer, not a fighter
25:11I'd rather lose that crowd
25:14Yeah
25:15Than sell them painted grace
25:17Yeah
25:18I'd rather stand alone
25:20Yeah
25:21And smile and dodge the wave
25:24Yeah
25:24Don't ask for easy comfort
25:27Yeah
25:27Then curse the honest cost
25:30Yeah
25:31Love that never warns you
25:33I'll leave you
25:35I'll leave you more than lost
25:36This is tough love gospel
25:39Not rainbows on a wire
25:42If you hide the hard work
25:45You're just planting the fire
25:48You're just planting the fire
25:50I won't preach delusion
25:51Yeah
25:52Just to make it sound lighter
25:54Yeah
25:55If I only sue the choir
25:57I'm a singer
25:59I'm a singer
26:00Not a fighter
26:00Oh
26:02If I dress up the danger
26:05I'm a liar
26:08Not a writer
26:11Tough love
26:12The bible isn't just rainbows
26:15And lollipops
26:16Singing cumbire around the campfire
26:19You cannot ignore the harsh reality drops
26:23To peddle such makes you a liar
26:28Reality verse delusion
26:31Speaking
26:32Not just to the choir
26:36This
26:38That
26:38And in all things transpire
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