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00:01Tonight, on The Curse of Oak Island.
00:03Welcome to Fort Point Museum.
00:05We brought a few artifacts.
00:07Do you think that the Knights of Malta would have used beads like that?
00:10Yes, they may well have visited Oak Island.
00:13This is the kind of loose slurry of mud that we were looking for.
00:16That speaks to a chamber, for the offset chamber.
00:19That's where treasure can hide.
00:21We're all extremely interested in the lot aid feature.
00:24We need to see what's under that rock.
00:26Wait, you see that?
00:27Oh my God, there's a pearl.
00:31There is an island in the North Atlantic.
00:34Where people have been looking for an incredible treasure for more than 200 years.
00:41So far, they have found a stone slab with strange symbols carved into it.
00:47Man-made workings that date to medieval times.
00:51And a lead cross whose origin may be connected to the Knights Templar.
00:56To date, six men have died trying to solve the mystery.
01:02And according to legend, one more will have to die before the treasure can be found.
01:24As Rick Lagina and members of the team begin a new day of investigation on Oak Island.
01:31They have gathered in the war room regarding a recent and potentially game-changing discovery.
01:38I think it's an understatement to say that we're all extremely interested in what the lot aid feature might represent.
01:45Right now, none of us can say definitively what this is.
01:50And thus, my thought is that it absolutely was built by the hand of man.
01:53And there is a huge human interface factor here.
01:57It's unquestionable.
01:58It's definitely been altered by humans and not by any humans that we're aware of.
02:04I agree.
02:06So this is what I wanted to show you.
02:08Two weeks ago, Laird Niven noticed a massive boulder on Lot 8 near several partially buried rocks that looked like
02:16someone may have set them in place.
02:19As the team dug, they uncovered more buried rocks in front of the boulder.
02:24I find that strange.
02:26But then Rick noticed it was being held in place by a series of evenly spaced stones.
02:33Whoa, you're going deep.
02:34Yeah.
02:35You've got a big void down there.
02:37Fiona Steele then began to remove disturbed soil, exposing a tight but open void beneath it.
02:44There's definitely a void that I'm following.
02:47The team inserted a snake camera under the boulder, but were unable to tell if something was hidden below.
02:55We tried the camera. Laird now has the footage.
02:59All right.
03:00Yeah, let's watch some shiny gold things.
03:03Here we go.
03:06That's a nice shot.
03:08Yeah, that's a lot of different materials under there.
03:16What is that linear thing right above the rock?
03:21That, right there, yeah.
03:22Yeah, that.
03:24It's right up against the rock.
03:26Yeah.
03:30Just the top of the screw.
03:31Yeah.
03:31On the center.
03:32There.
03:32Right there.
03:33Huh.
03:33Can you stop it there?
03:38Whoa.
03:39It's linear, that's for sure.
03:41Yeah.
03:43Does that not look like an iron spike?
03:45Yeah.
03:47Yeah, it could be an iron fastener of some kind.
03:50Yeah.
03:52It's blue, but they can oxidize blue sometimes, can't they?
03:56Mm-hmm.
03:56Yeah, they can.
03:58And that's consistent with being low oxygen under a boulder.
04:02Is there enough oxygen in there for wood to decay?
04:05You know, I'm thinking what if there was a wood structure under there and the spike is all that remains.
04:09I mean, Nova Scotia soils are very acidic.
04:12That's just not great for preserving wood.
04:15Right, so it could be that the wood is gone and that's all that's left.
04:18Yeah.
04:18That's how that spike could get there.
04:20Yeah.
04:21It's one way.
04:21Could be.
04:23If the team is actually seeing an iron spike beneath the massive boulder, could Alex be correct that it was
04:30once a part of a wooden structure?
04:33If so, what kind of structure was it and what else might be down there?
04:39What are the chances that we lift this boulder and move it?
04:43I think it's worth doing if we can.
04:45The question is if we can.
04:47Yeah.
04:48I'm on the fence with that one.
04:49I'm just worried because if this is a really special, special place or it ends up being a really special
04:55find, we just have to watch the integrity of it all.
04:58What kind of special site would we be talking about, potentially?
05:04We are searching for treasure on an island famous for treasure.
05:08How about some treasure underneath it?
05:10I agree.
05:10I agree.
05:12The Lotte boulder feature is one of the most perplexing archaeological sites I've worked on.
05:17We have to take our time.
05:19We have to do things correctly before we can get down there and see exactly what's under it.
05:25This boulder is so unusual that I have no expectations about what's under there.
05:31I am prepared for nothing and I'm prepared for something spectacular.
05:38My takeaway here is we need to see what's under that rock one way or another.
05:42I'd be a proponent of lifting it if we can think of a way to do it.
05:45We didn't come out here to find the most interesting site on the island and then not investigate it.
05:49And so if we can't think of a way to get the material out from under it that gives us
05:53all the information of raising it, then I think we need to raise it.
05:56But I'm totally fine and I completely understand wanting to try every alternative first because you don't want to destroy
06:02something that's potentially very significant.
06:04Exactly.
06:05Yeah.
06:05I think we can get underneath it without lifting this boulder.
06:09I mean, I've been working down low.
06:11I can see where the rocks are.
06:12I can see where the soil is settled in front.
06:14I know we have to be safe about it.
06:16I was going to say, you're not going onto the boulder.
06:19Right now, is there a part of me that says, come on, let's just go lift it.
06:23Let's all grab shovels and dig it up.
06:25100%.
06:26Of course we want answers.
06:27Of course we want to find something under probably one of the most singularly unique finds on the island to
06:33date.
06:34Right?
06:35We don't want a, oh, if only we hadn't done that moment.
06:39Yeah.
06:39At least not yet.
06:40Right.
06:41We have to do it safely.
06:43100%.
06:44I think I understand where my brother's coming from.
06:46I look at it and I say, this rock is very important.
06:49We need to see what's under it.
06:50And I don't want to wait to do that.
06:53I want to lift this rock tomorrow.
06:55Rick looks at it and says, this rock is very important.
06:58Same conclusion, but it's so important, I want to be careful about moving it.
07:04It's just the difference of approach, but it stems from the same realization.
07:09This is an important feature.
07:11I'd say likely there's something interesting under that rock.
07:15Perhaps even treasure.
07:17So we can move forward to try to further understand what this discovery represents.
07:22Perfect.
07:23We've got a good plan.
07:24I think we're on the right track.
07:26Yeah.
07:27Okay, so to that end, I think we've all got work to do.
07:29So let's go try to find something else mysterious about this place.
07:33Yeah.
07:33All right.
07:34See you Craig.
07:35See you Jack.
07:36See you guys.
07:36While the meeting concludes in the war room.
07:40CN 12.5 Charles.
07:41Here we are trying to put another hole in the Peacock, trying to nail this down.
07:45No, I like the location.
07:47In the Money Pit area.
07:48There's a big opening down there, and we're going to see if we can find it.
07:51Yeah.
07:52The team is drilling borehole CN 12.5 in the Peacock, 8 feet northwest of borehole BN 13.5.
08:03Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
08:04It was there, three weeks ago, that while targeting the solution channel some 170 feet deep, the drill entered a
08:1410-foot void at just 148 feet.
08:17We've got an opening.
08:19One that yielded sonar images of a possible opening to a much larger chamber.
08:25And underwater camera images of potential metallic objects.
08:31I've always believed in the offset chamber because it makes sense engineering-wise.
08:35Right.
08:36This has made the team speculate that they may have hit an offset treasure chamber connected by a tunnel to
08:43the original Money Pit.
08:46Now, they hope to find out for sure in borehole CN 12.5.
08:52I mean, the core of the Peacock is a slushy slurry of mud and water.
08:57You get that as you get further down into the solution channel.
09:00That's a lot of open, loose material.
09:02You know what it tells me, Terry?
09:04That's where a coin or a jewel or something can hide.
09:08Sounds good to me.
09:09Hopefully, we'll come up with a few pieces of it today.
09:12Wouldn't that be sweet?
09:13As drilling continues in the Money Pit area.
09:18And while the investigation beneath the boulder proceeds on Lot 8.
09:24Another bucket of opportunities.
09:25You know what that is?
09:26Yep.
09:27Rick, Craig, and other members of the team dig on Tom Nolan's property in the northernmost region of the swamp.
09:36All right, that's good. Still good.
09:38They are continuing to search for more sections of a cobblestone pathway that might be connected to other stone features
09:46recently uncovered on the western side of the swamp, as well as an empty brick and slate vault that was
09:54found nearby in 2024.
10:20Oh, yeah. It's right there.
10:27Oh, wow.
10:30This has got a nice pattern on it, both sides.
10:33See that pattern, mate?
10:35Yeah.
10:36What I like about this is this piece has come out of a darker layer, meaning it's from a deeper
10:42depth.
10:43So it's a potential beholder.
10:46Look.
10:47I'll put this in a separate bag because this is a nicer piece.
10:51Okay, okay.
11:02Oh, check this out.
11:04Woo-hoo!
11:06Now that's pottery.
11:08That's pottery, yeah.
11:08Good eye, mate.
11:10That's a piece of earthenware.
11:12Yeah.
11:12Good eye, Rick.
11:23Oh.
11:24Wow.
11:25Look at this, Gary.
11:26Gary, what is it?
11:29Oh, yeah, a lot of pottery in that one.
11:34All this.
11:35All that.
11:36All this.
11:37Yeah, there's a lot of pottery here, mate.
11:39A lot of pottery.
11:41Look at this.
11:42Just everywhere.
11:44Man, this is the mother load when it comes to pottery shards.
11:50We have found bags and bags of pottery in this dig.
11:53If we can get a date on it, you've got a chance to track down who was working in the
12:00area.
12:02Hey, Gary and Rick.
12:04I'm finding a lot of pottery.
12:06What are we?
12:07It almost looks like three different types.
12:10We're probably dealing with the same situation here.
12:13That last bucket, a heck of a lot of pottery in it.
12:16Okay.
12:17So we're in a good area.
12:19We should get laid down here.
12:20Good luck.
12:25That's a big pile of dirt.
12:26Heck of a lot of pottery.
12:28Really?
12:28Unbelievable amount of pottery.
12:30We'll show you.
12:31In the northern region of the swamp.
12:34Hey, Craig, Tom.
12:35Can you call over?
12:36Yep.
12:37Okay.
12:38Laird joins the team to examine their large collection of new discoveries.
12:43That's a lot of, a lot of ceramics.
12:45Yeah, I sure had the pottery expert, mate.
12:47We figured you would be able to tell us if we've got any older pieces.
12:50In these bags.
12:52Yeah.
12:53A piece of transfer printed, uh, pearl ware or refiners and ware.
12:591840s kind of era.
13:02And we did get some nice pieces of Irvine ware.
13:05They're in the second bag.
13:07Oh, of course Irvine ware.
13:07Yeah.
13:08The red ware.
13:09Mm-hmm.
13:09The red ware is what we're really interested in.
13:12Yeah.
13:12This is unusual.
13:13It's got a glaze on one side and nothing on the other.
13:18More crudered.
13:19Doesn't that normally mean an older piece when it's cruder?
13:23Yes.
13:24I mean, this could be the North Devon gravel ware, which is old.
13:29Wow.
13:30And the gravel's referring to a lot of grit in there, which could be a good marker.
13:34How old is that?
13:36Oh.
13:361600s to 1700s.
13:38Wow.
13:39Amazing.
13:40The littlest pieces always are the most intriguing.
13:42Yeah.
13:42Right?
13:431600s.
13:43I love those dates because that makes me think about Isaac de Razzoli and the Knights of Malta.
13:49So that connection I'd love to make stronger.
13:52That'd be pretty significant.
13:57After finding several buttons, a folded coin, and Venetian trade beads on Lot 5, that may
14:06be connected to the 17th century Templar-related order known as the Knights of Malta, Rick, Marty,
14:13and the team have been researching Isaac de Razzoli, a prominent member of the order who
14:19in 1632 built a stronghold in Le Havre just 15 miles south of Oak Island, which is now known
14:27as Fort Point.
14:30What I found very interesting is two documents.
14:34And just one week ago, Emiliano Sicchetti provided the team with a 17th century inventory
14:41of de Razzoli's personal property that went missing after his death in 1636.
14:47We have a copper astrolabe.
14:49We have two flintlock muskets and two leather-covered chests.
14:55That's the piece with the best hope of being older.
14:58Could Gary be correct that the team has possibly found important clues that may help identify
15:04who was connected to the Oak Island mystery?
15:08You know, the thing for me is we always talk about how we need to have corroborative evidence.
15:14Yeah.
15:15You know, or complementary evidence, if you will.
15:18If we can reach out to Fort Point, which is where Isaac de Razzoli was, whatever we think
15:23we can get complementary evidence to, we should bring.
15:27Yeah.
15:28I think you're instinctive.
15:29Can we use the artifacts we have found to possibly connect de Razzoli to some efforts here?
15:37I can take all that stuff back if you like.
15:39Okay.
15:40Yeah, please.
15:41Start the cleaning process.
15:43Or the fact that he may have known of some efforts here prior to coming to Nova Scotia.
15:47Take these.
15:48I think we need to redouble our efforts looking into that possibility further.
15:53Okie doke.
15:54And we will continue the work here.
15:55Yep.
15:56Sounds good.
15:57Thanks, Larry.
15:58Let it rip out.
15:58and we only need to do the thing for now.
16:10Okay, let's go.
16:29And it's right there.
16:47Oh, the larger signal.
16:48Here we go.
16:50What have we got here?
16:52Oh, ain't the foggiest what that is.
16:54No.
16:55That's what I love about our little trips to the lab, mate.
16:58Let's see if we can get any crud off it.
17:02That's something.
17:04This has got a curve to it.
17:06It's iron and really heavy.
17:09That's got an old feel about it to me.
17:12It's so much well-constructed.
17:14Yep, I think it's some sort of lifting device.
17:17And I think there was a ring here.
17:19And this is where your attachment point is.
17:23We're both on the same page, mate.
17:26We both think this is something to do with lifting or all-in.
17:29It could be a shackle or it could be a hook.
17:32We did find that mystery vault a few yards that way, mate.
17:37You never know.
17:38This could have been used for lifting and placing something in another vault not too far away from us.
17:44We know that path.
17:46We've discovered it's leading this way towards the vault.
17:48If it is any sort of lifting device, it means that something heavy was lifted in this area.
17:54Yeah.
17:55We have pottery that might suggest dates as early as the 1600s.
18:00And now we have this tool that could have been used for lifting something heavy.
18:06Well, this area is interesting for all kinds of reasons.
18:11There is some story being written here, but I would love to see other artifacts found.
18:18Perhaps even another vault.
18:20The hope is that it resides here.
18:23Well, we'll find answers about this back of the lab.
18:26Yeah.
18:26I'll put it in the back.
18:27Yeah.
18:28Okay, game on.
18:29As the investigation in the swamp continues.
18:33You guys need a hand?
18:34Hold on.
18:36Whoa.
18:37In the Money Pit area, borehole CN 12.5 has reached a depth of nearly 140 feet in the Peacock.
18:47Great stuff.
18:48This material right from here to there is 138 to 168, 30 feet of drilling.
18:55We only got it with 12 feet of bore back.
18:57But that we've seen in the past in the Peacock.
19:00You drill it 20 feet and maybe you get five, maybe you get six feet of core.
19:04Very interesting.
19:05Very interesting stuff.
19:06Let's have a look.
19:08This is the kind of loose slurry of mud that we were looking for.
19:12Yeah.
19:12This is the cakey material that stayed in the core barrel.
19:17We got a whole 15 feet that didn't even come up because there's a washed out slushy slurry down below.
19:22That's where treasure can hide.
19:24That's exactly right.
19:25Hey, Charles, 30 feet of drilling, we've got 12 feet of recovery.
19:29That speaks to an opening somewhere in that area, perhaps a chamber, or the offset chamber.
19:36It's down there, Terry.
19:40So, Charles, that material there, all the way from about 145 to here to about 160.
19:48That's an interesting depth, and that speaks to an offset chamber.
19:52In the Money Pit area, the drilling operation in borehole CN 12.5 has encountered evidence of a nearly 20
20:02-foot void, approximately 145 feet underground.
20:15Is it possible that the team has discovered a larger cavern that could be connected to the potentially man-made
20:23void they encountered three weeks ago?
20:25If so, just what might it contain?
20:29See, this is getting really blocky.
20:30It went down below.
20:32You get that as you get further down into the solution channel.
20:34And I think this is the kind of information that we're looking for that says there is a connection between
20:39the peacock and the solution channel.
20:42Yeah.
20:43Now we just have to follow that void to the bottom of the solution channel and hope we encounter the
20:46artifact or the treasure.
20:48It's going to change everything.
20:50It's clear, Terry.
20:51No metal on this one.
20:52Right on.
20:52All right.
20:53I'll write it up.
20:53It's clear.
20:54Move on.
20:55So that's the 168.
20:56Let's see what they give us from 168 down.
20:59It's down there, Charles.
21:00It's down there, Terry.
21:01We just haven't found it yet.
21:02Yeah.
21:05The following day, as work continues on Oak Island.
21:10Well, guys, I'm excited to go see Port Point today because we have a lot of questions about Isaac Durasley
21:16and if he did go to Oak Island at any point.
21:19Alex, Peter, Judy Rudabusch, and Emiliano Cicchetti are traveling some 15 miles south to Le Havre, Nova Scotia.
21:29I think Joan is a perfect person to answer some of those questions for us.
21:32I'm hoping that she can give us some really good input.
21:35Yep.
21:36They have arranged to visit the historic site known as Fort Point, which was originally established as a French stronghold
21:44in 1632 by Isaac Durasley, a high-ranking member of the Knights of Malta.
21:52Wow.
21:54Beautiful location.
21:55You can see why they chose it.
21:58Hello.
21:59Welcome to Fort Point Museum.
22:01Nice to see you.
22:02Hi there.
22:02My name's Alex.
22:03Very nice to meet you.
22:04Joan, right?
22:04Joan, yes.
22:06Joan Dawson is a local historian and author who has written several books on both the founding of Nova Scotia
22:13and Isaac Durasley.
22:15We brought a few artifacts.
22:16Would there be a place to look at these at all?
22:19Yeah, there's a table in there.
22:20Okay.
22:21If you'd like to set them up there.
22:23That would be great.
22:23Yeah.
22:24So we have in this room some of the early information about Isaac Durasley.
22:28So if you'd like to have a look around in this room and then I'll meet you in the other
22:32room and we can take it from there.
22:34Thank you so much.
22:36Rick always talks about connective tissue and tying Oak Island to the potential treasure depositors that we're investigating.
22:44These are items right from the family.
22:47In this case, we have Isaac Durasley, who could be the connective tissue between Oak Island and the Knights of
22:53Malta.
22:54So this would have been the kind of clothes he would have worn possibly as a member of the Knights
22:58of Malta in the 1600s, like this says.
23:01It looks like it may have been red because of his stature.
23:04Oh, because he was higher ranking?
23:07I wish we'd find something similar to that on the island.
23:10Yeah.
23:10The Maltese cross.
23:12So that symbol was in use in the 1600s.
23:15Mm-hmm.
23:15So if we find that symbol on Oak Island, then that's the dead giveaway.
23:18Oh, yeah.
23:19Probably a good place to start would be, what is known about Isaac Durasley during the time that he was
23:26here?
23:27Well, we know that he had written the documents before coming here, talking about colonization and how important it was
23:34and how it enhanced the prestige of France and the French king.
23:39The king certainly sanctioned the expedition.
23:41So he came over in 1632.
23:44He organized the community here.
23:46He had a fort built on the site where we are now.
23:50So he was obviously in charge.
23:53Is it fair to say he was a wealthy man?
23:55Well, he was an aristocrat.
23:58His family were landowners.
24:00He would have been fairly well off, yes.
24:02Good lifestyle, which he obviously intended to set up here.
24:06Right.
24:06He was very happy to come here and to set up this place.
24:11But unfortunately, his actor as he died, and we don't know quite of what caused this, but it was unexpected,
24:18and he died in July of 1636.
24:21Okay.
24:22So, Joan, we're just trying to figure out the connections Isaac Durasley had to the Oak Island mystery and the
24:28other orders and powers that he was associated with, like France, the Knights of Malta.
24:33He was an enthusiastic Knight of Malta, yes.
24:36He wrote a letter to the leader of the Knights of Malta, suggesting that they should really set up something
24:43like a monastery in Nova Scotia.
24:47Well, perhaps there's a connection to a settlement on Oak Island.
24:51And we have an archaeological site there on Lot 5 that appears to have had about two periods of occupancy.
25:00There's some suggestion that there was an occupation in the 1600s.
25:04That's interesting.
25:05So, here's an artifact from the Lot 5 feature.
25:10I'm just curious if you came across any sort of beads that are similar to this here on this location.
25:18Good heavens, no.
25:20But I would say it was beads for trading with the Mi'kmaq, the indigenous people, yes.
25:26Do you think it's possible that Isaac Durasley would have used beads like that for the purposes of trading?
25:33Yes.
25:34And you get that from the French.
25:37Certainly they had traded with the indigenous people.
25:39So, yes, I'm sure Durasley was doing it too.
25:42Well, that's interesting because we were wondering if that could be a potential connection between, if not Durasley, then the
25:49group that he was associated with being involved with some work on Oak Island.
25:52And I'm sure you are aware of it, but we know that from the journal that Isaac Durasley, that he
26:01used to sail from La Havre up towards Mahon Bay.
26:06Well, certainly they went on this expedition with two local priests along with them.
26:11Exactly.
26:12And they went into Mahon Bay, yes.
26:14And they also describe an island filled with oaks.
26:19Yes, well, certainly.
26:20I mean, they didn't say which of the islands in Mahon Bay they visited, but they may well have visited
26:25Oak Island.
26:28Here you go.
26:33While he was here, they may well have visited Oak Island.
26:36So I'm sure there's a connection.
26:39At Fort Point, some 15 miles south of Oak Island in La Havre, Nova Scotia, historian Joan Dawson has confirmed
26:47that the Venetian beads discovered on Lot 5 are the same type that Isaac Durasley
26:53and other members of the Knights of Malta would have used as currency in this area back in the 17th
27:00century.
27:02So we have all these other European artifacts on this site on Lot 5, which to me indicates a potential
27:07connection to the Knights of Malta.
27:09Yes.
27:10So one of the things that are actually really interesting is this one.
27:21This is a flintlock plate coming from a musket.
27:26Yes.
27:27We found in Lot 8.
27:28And as we know, this kind of mechanism was French.
27:33Yes, that's right.
27:34And that's interesting because we found two inventories of the Razzillis' belongings.
27:40Yes, yes.
27:41And according to the documents, we have listed two flintlock muskets.
27:47Yes.
27:47That never arrived to two.
27:49Yes, that's interesting.
27:51Did they go to France?
27:52Did they stay here?
27:53Exactly.
27:54And also, I read that Isaac Durasley came here with 300 men.
28:01Yes.
28:01And they were an elite corps.
28:03Yes, so they were obviously well trained and well armed.
28:06So the question is, could this be something that Isaac Durasley lost?
28:14It could be.
28:16It is strange.
28:17There were several things that didn't get back to France.
28:20Yes.
28:20Also, some chests went missing.
28:24It's interesting comparing those documents.
28:27We can call it a coincidence, but that is another interesting possibility that they eventually
28:36ended up in a place like Oak Island.
28:39It's a mystery.
28:40Yes, indeed.
28:42It's very interesting.
28:44Yes.
28:45What really strikes me about this guy is how little we know about his time here in Nova Scotia.
28:50We know he came here.
28:51We know he came here with a significant amount of resources because he was trying to establish
28:55a trading post, at least that's the official story, and then we don't know what he did.
29:01We've established that he had the opportunity to do something on Oak Island.
29:05We've established that he had the means to do something on Oak Island.
29:08Now we need to look for his motive.
29:12Okay, we brought one more thing along, and it's a book.
29:15Oh, yes.
29:16And it was the book that led us to our idea to go to Malta.
29:21I've acquired two ancient books.
29:23The publication date was 1812, and then the second book has a publication date of 1763.
29:30In 2023, researcher John Edwards presented the team with two books that he believes are part
29:37of a five-volume series.
29:40They contained Masonic codes, passages of ancient Hebrew writings, and references to sacred religious treasures
29:48that many believe the Knights Templar and the Knights of Malta may have hidden on Oak Island.
29:54And curiously, one of the books in the series also featured a hand-drawn map of the island,
30:01along with a possible depiction of the vault that was uncovered in the swamp.
30:07Oh, there's the Maltese Cross.
30:09Yes.
30:10And beside that, it even says that.
30:14Take a look at that.
30:14It just says Malta, yes.
30:18We don't know much about this book.
30:20We have the Maltese Cross, so we're thinking perhaps there's a connection to a settlement
30:26that was founded by a member of the Order of Malta.
30:30Oh, it's Josephus.
30:31Okay.
30:32You're familiar with Josephus and what he wrote about?
30:34Yes, I know he wrote a history of the time of Christ.
30:38Oh, okay.
30:40Flavius Josephus was a first-century Jewish military leader and scholar
30:45who documented many historical events of ancient Israel.
30:50He's also credited with being one of the first historians to author a non-biblical account
30:56about Jesus of Nazareth and his crucifixion under Pontius Pilate.
31:03We believe there's a code in there somewhere.
31:05Well, I'm just looking at this margin here, which seems to be a code of some sort.
31:10Mm-hmm.
31:12I think it is actually as if he had a library of any sort.
31:16This is the kind of thing that might well have been in it.
31:18Okay.
31:19Has Joan possibly helped the team uncover new clues in the books?
31:25Related to the beliefs and priceless religious treasures that some believe,
31:29the Knights Templar and the Knights of Malta buried on Oak Island.
31:34The fact that Joan not only recognizes possible clues in this book and its author,
31:39but also that she says it's the kind of thing that a Knight of Malta would have in his library,
31:45I think is very significant because this book has drawings and codes and messages
31:51that we think pertain and relate to Oak Island.
31:55So that right there is our connection between the Knights of Malta and Oak Island.
31:59Well, Joan, thank you very much for your time.
32:01We really appreciate it.
32:02Well, thank you very much.
32:03It's been very interesting for me.
32:05I did this research a long time ago, and it's nice to remember it all.
32:09Lovely to meet you all.
32:11It was nice to meet you.
32:15As a new morning dawns on Oak Island.
32:18So, Tara, 188 to 208.
32:21So, you got 10 feet of material, 208.
32:25Okay, great.
32:26Members of the team hope to make a breakthrough discovery
32:29at the bottom of the Peacock in borehole CN 12.5.
32:34More loose stuff.
32:35Here's the bedrock at about 204.
32:38Yep.
32:39After encountering a nearly 20-foot void some 140 feet underground one day ago
32:45that may be connected to a possible offset chamber.
32:48I mean, we got exactly what we were looking for.
32:51All of this material is very, very loose.
32:53Things could have fallen down through.
32:55The team is now examining core samples from the bottom of the solution channel,
33:00an area where any potential treasure might have fallen.
33:04We expected to see slushy, slurry, washed-out areas that things could fall into.
33:10We're looking at a whole great big bunch of it now, Charles.
33:13Are you going to hand me a cutter, Terry?
33:15Scalpel.
33:18Let's do it.
33:19Let's operate.
33:21If you're looking for evidence of a washed-out void or a muddy spot, this is it.
33:28So, I'm going to separate this out a little bit,
33:30and you're going to run the pinpointer over it, I think, Charles.
33:32That's what I'm going to do.
33:33We're looking for metal right now.
33:36And I'm afraid there's no metal in that.
33:40Right.
33:40Less disappointing.
33:41But, again, we've been hitting loose water material all the way from 138
33:45all the way down to, here we are at 204.
33:48We're still in this material here.
33:50This is perfect to hide the one thing.
33:52Gold will pass down through that like a hot knife through butter.
33:54I mean, this is tailor-made for exactly what we're talking about.
33:59This material is getting sampled.
34:01Unfortunately, no artifacts or solid evidence of treasure have been found in the core.
34:06However, the team may still be able to find valuable clues in the muddy soils.
34:13Let's get a representative sample of this loose material
34:15to see if we can take it back to the lab,
34:17see if they'll detect any precious metals,
34:20and that should do it for that.
34:22The peacock, it's singularly unique, according to Terry.
34:26It's highly unconsolidated soils.
34:30It seems to be almost floating in space.
34:33Okay, here we go.
34:35It checks all the boxes for an offset chamber
34:38that has collapsed down into the solution channel,
34:41and thus every reason to grab samples of that,
34:44send them off to the lab, and hopefully find something.
34:47We've got to keep coming back to this hot area
34:50because it's so tempting.
34:51We need more information there, right?
34:53There's lots of places down there for a treasure to hide.
34:56On to the next.
34:57Sounds good to me.
34:58As Terry and Charles prepare soil samples for testing.
35:03Hey, guys.
35:04Hey.
35:05Hi.
35:05How are you?
35:06Might look a little different now.
35:07It's a little.
35:08You can kind of peek in there.
35:11Rick and members of the team arrive on Lot 8,
35:15where more soil has been removed
35:17from beneath the massive boulder feature.
35:20Any fines yet?
35:21No, we haven't yet, but we are screening all of the soil
35:24that's coming out of here.
35:26When you see the rock pinned like this,
35:28it's looking at this point like somebody has excavated out
35:32an area of this to get underneath the boulder.
35:36When's the last time you put the camera down?
35:38Not since we've moved those rocks.
35:40We really only just got to the point
35:41that we've exposed that underbelly of the large boulder.
35:46We have all these stones around that really are tightly placed,
35:49and there's a bit of a pathway clearance underneath it right now.
35:53So we've had to just scoop out a lot of dirt first.
35:55But I'd love to see what that camera can show us.
35:58We've got the camera operator right there.
36:00Peter, how about it?
36:01Let's do it.
36:03Archaeology is a slow-paced science.
36:06It's just the nature of the work.
36:08Stay focused, Pete.
36:09Okay.
36:10Look, at this point, I want to dig it up.
36:13I want answers.
36:14But I think everyone that is currently endeavoring
36:18to uncover what this boulder might represent
36:20is recommending that very thing.
36:23Let's do this slow.
36:24Let's do it right.
36:25Let's make certain that we don't make mistakes.
36:28I'll show you there's a really good spot.
36:30All right.
36:33Okay, now I'm in, in underneath.
36:36Okay.
36:37Let's see what we can find.
36:43You see anything there?
36:45Okay.
36:45Let me see if I can go farther.
36:46All right.
36:52What do you see, Peter?
36:53There's definitely room.
36:55How deep do you think we're in?
36:57Probably in about a couple of feet.
37:01Want me to try and go down a little further?
37:02Absolutely.
37:08Drop, drop.
37:09Go ahead, but slow, slowly.
37:14What's that bright blue thing?
37:17I'll go back a little bit.
37:20You know, go forward.
37:22Just slow.
37:25Slow, slow.
37:35Wait, do you see that?
37:37Pull forward a little bit.
37:39Just a touch.
37:40Yeah.
37:41Whatever that is.
37:42I have no idea.
37:44Doesn't look like a rock.
37:45Mm-mm.
37:47But if you go forward into it, it feels like a rock?
37:49I did, but I'm past it.
37:50Come take a look at this.
37:52Am I in the right spot?
37:53Mm-hmm.
37:54Here, that's what it is.
37:57Doesn't look like a rock.
38:00Go towards it a little bit more.
38:05It certainly looks different than everything else.
38:07Yes, it does.
38:08That's probably the most interesting thing yet.
38:11You want to pull it back just a little bit?
38:12Sure.
38:15Oh, my God.
38:15It looks like there's a pearl.
38:21Didn't it look like a pearl?
38:22Yeah.
38:23It certainly looks different than everything else.
38:25Yes, it does.
38:26Show Fiona that.
38:28After reinserting a camera beneath the massive boulder on Lot 8.
38:32That's a very, very circular piece.
38:36Like, almost too perfect.
38:38Yeah.
38:39Rick and members of the team believe they see new evidence of possible hidden treasure.
38:44It's a pearl.
38:45I see why you were saying that now.
38:47I'm not saying it is, but that's where your mind goes immediately.
38:51Yeah.
38:52Gary, take a look.
38:55Of course, you don't have scale.
38:56Yep.
38:57Don't you have the big rock?
38:59Oh, you're thinking.
39:02I think pirates and pearls.
39:05It does look like a pearl.
39:06Yeah, it does look like a pearl, yeah.
39:08It's hard to believe that it's a stone.
39:10It's perfect.
39:12It's almost luminescent.
39:15Okay.
39:16So now I'm going to go back and in again, slowly.
39:18Mm-hmm.
39:20But I can't quite tell where it's going to go.
39:22Okay.
39:24So stop.
39:25Yep.
39:26It's just black.
39:27Yeah, just black.
39:29Okay.
39:29It might be covered.
39:30Yeah, okay.
39:32We couldn't maneuver the camera any closer, but now we have a potential target for further investigation.
39:38That makes me more excited, and I wonder what else might be down there.
39:44There's nothing as of yet says that we should cease activities here, and if anything, it says, speaks eloquently to,
39:52we've got to continue, right?
39:53Yeah.
39:54It's a bloody mystery, that is for sure.
39:56What about a shot back?
39:58I was thinking exactly that.
40:00I think it'd be a great idea.
40:02Yep.
40:03Yep.
40:03I think vacuuming that out would be a great next step.
40:07Yeah.
40:08Yeah.
40:08One, you would collect whatever might be there, and two, it will open that up further so you can get
40:13the camera down.
40:14Yep.
40:15I agree.
40:15And metal detecting, and hopefully pinpointing.
40:18If I can get my arm in there, and we can hit some metal, we're in business.
40:21Mm-hmm.
40:22Yeah.
40:23We shall leave no stone unturned that's not supposed to be turned.
40:29There is reason here that people went to some effort to create a lot of a feature, and the only
40:35reason I can think of is that human beings wanted to put something under this stone.
40:41You know, we should apply whatever assets we have to try to understand what's under that boulder.
40:45I think we are all mystified by it, certainly.
40:48But the only way to find out is to proceed.
40:51Yeah.
40:51You have a path forward.
40:52Yep.
40:53Let's see what we can do.
40:55As Rick, Marty, and their team strive to solve a mystery that has defied generations of faithful searchers, one important
41:05lesson has become crystal clear.
41:07They must look deeper than ever before to find the answers.
41:12Deeper in the money pit.
41:15Deeper below features that have gone unnoticed by others.
41:20And deeper into history.
41:24Because what they may ultimately uncover could have a value that is beyond earthly calculation.
41:35Next time on The Curse of Oak Island.
41:37It's designed to hide something.
41:39I want to pick it up and see what's under there.
41:41Oh, this could get interesting.
41:43Oh, yeah, that's great.
41:45Somebody was in here doing this.
41:46It looks like a road towards where the vault is.
41:48Yeah.
41:48We got something in here.
41:50Look, it's all through it.
41:52This is very, very important.
41:53It may be the thing.
41:54We processed these deep samples from the money pit area and found something interesting.
41:59We could be closer than we've ever been.
42:02Amen.
42:02We could be closer to the money pit.
42:06We could be closer to the money pit.
42:07We could be closer to the money pit.
42:07We could be closer to the money pit.
42:07We could be closer to the money pit.
42:07We could be closer to the money pit.
42:08We could be closer to the money pit.
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