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00:00All right, so I just got back from the drama starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson, and this is what we
00:04go to the movies for.
00:05This was a challenging movie. The whole crowd was immersed and simultaneously shocked and enthralled.
00:12This movie is going to be a total conversation star.
00:14You know, it's taking the concept of would you love me if I was a worm up to like 11.
00:18The central plot here is we're following Emma and Charlie, who are just recently engaged,
00:22and they play a game of what's the worst thing you've ever done.
00:25So before we got married, we did this thing where we said the worst thing we've ever done.
00:28Are you kidding? That's the worst thing I've ever done.
00:30Ice.
00:32Okay, I, um, I'm sorry, I, um, I'm sorry, I, um, Emma, what the f-
00:38And Emma lets slip the worst thing she's ever done, and then it throws the couple into kind of a
00:43downward spiral the week before their wedding.
00:45Now, just so you're prepared going into this, this is from the director of Dream Scenario,
00:50which is like this weird, surreal, cancel culture sort of comedy-horror hybrid,
00:54and also Sick of Myself, which was this body-horror social satire.
00:58I think it's worth knowing that going in.
01:00Now, what I really appreciate about the marketing to this movie is it almost made us invested in Emma and
01:05Charlie as a couple.
01:06The promos were all these cute photos of Zendaya and Robert Pattinson together,
01:10and you almost, like, started, like, really enjoying their connection.
01:12You know, the interview second, there was a lot of palpable chemistry,
01:15and I think a lot of people are going to go to this movie expecting a sort of fun, zany
01:19rom-com,
01:20and they're going to be delivered this really dark, compelling, mean-spirited Seinfeld episode, almost.
01:25I thought this movie was just absolutely hypnotic.
01:27We're treated to surreal, hypothetical dream sequences that are equal parts horrifying and hilarious.
01:32This movie is interrogating what is true love, what would you tolerate from your partner's past,
01:38are our past mistakes worth being held accountable, you know, 10, 15, 20 years later, you know?
01:42Like, all of this stuff is really interesting, and I'm not going to give away what the secret is.
01:46I urge you not to search up what the secret is.
01:50Just trust me, it's genuinely worth waiting for the reveal.
01:53It's that good, and it does live up to the hype, all right?
01:55I thought I knew what it was going in because I'd heard certain people were upset,
01:59and even seeing the movie, I was like, oh, fuck.
02:02But what I like about this movie most is I think it's going to be a total conversation style.
02:06You know, in the marketing, there's been all these, like, card games,
02:09these, like, dark versions of, like, were we ever truly strangers or whatever,
02:13you know, that card game where you get to know each other's couples.
02:15I think this movie might actually put certainty for any couple is going to be an interesting one.
02:20I also think this movie is going to serve as a massive Rorschach test.
02:23I think there's going to be a large amount of people that do have some empathy
02:27and understanding for Zendaya's character, for Emma's character,
02:30and what she did and what might have got her to that place.
02:33But at the same time, I think there's going to be a lot of other people that are like,
02:35fuck her, like, get out of here, absolutely not.
02:38And I have feelings onto the situation.
02:40So I really liked the approach here.
02:42Again, super surreal at times, really funny, like, darkly funny.
02:46But also, and I will say, surprisingly romantic and earnest at times.
02:51I actually found myself getting really invested in the will-they-won't-they,
02:55are-they-going-to-get-out-of-this-downward spiral that this movie was playing with.
02:58And truthfully, in a fucked-up way, I was kind of more invested
03:01in the central couple here, the central romance here,
03:05than I was anything in materialists.
03:07And that's despite the dark, disturbing territory that this movie is exploring.
03:13And best believe, like, this movie is really playing with it.
03:16And when I say playing with it, like, really having a dark sense of humor.
03:19Again, keep in mind, this is from the director of Dream Scenario,
03:22and Sick of Myself, and also produced by Ari Aster,
03:24who both of them are kind of provocateurs at times.
03:27I would actually say, if you liked Eddington, you might like the drama.
03:31If you're looking for a rom-com, maybe look elsewhere.
03:33Now, there are other movies I could reference
03:36in order to give you, like, a reference point as to why you would like this movie,
03:39but I don't want to give anything away.
03:41Any movies I recommend would just give away The Secret,
03:44so I really don't think it's worth doing.
03:45But Zendaya delivers a fantastic performance.
03:48I actually think this is the best performance we've seen from Zendaya.
03:51You know, Zendaya gets a bad rap,
03:52I think mostly just because of her portrayal as MJ in the Spider-Man movies,
03:56but I think outside of that, she's fantastic in Euphoria,
03:59she's fantastic in Dune, she's fantastic in Challengers,
04:01and this is easily her best role, in my opinion.
04:04She actually brings a lot of empathy and heart and, like, realism,
04:08like, groundness to this character.
04:09Occasionally, she comes off quite cringe and uncomfortable,
04:13despite obviously being a beautiful young woman,
04:15but I think the way she's positioned in this movie is just really well done,
04:19and it walks a really fine line.
04:21I really like what they do with her character.
04:23So, Robert Pattinson continues to be one of our greatest living actors.
04:27Like, he's absolutely phenomenal in this,
04:29and he's playing someone who's simultaneously...
04:31You have some empathy there, but he's also kind of pathetic at times,
04:34and, like, kind of, like, devious and mischievous,
04:37and he brings a really interesting presence to this movie.
04:40I also thought Alana Haim as Rachel,
04:43which is their kind of friend.
04:45She's the maid of honour at the wedding.
04:47I think she brought a really interesting texture and vibe to this movie,
04:51and I think she's going to be the source of a lot of conversation
04:54and debate around this movie, depending how you feel about her.
04:58You know, she's the one having a really visceral reaction
05:00to Zendaya's secret in the trailer,
05:02and I think that reaction is really something worth unpacking
05:06and talking about in the car ride home.
05:08So, yeah, if you're looking for a movie, it is edgy, all right?
05:11Like, this is a pretty, like, full-on movie.
05:13I think there were some couples that were there for a fun date night
05:16that were absolutely mortified by what they were seeing,
05:19but this was absolutely up my alley.
05:21I do really recommend this.
05:22Even if you put off by it, I still think this is actually worth your time.
05:25To quote Sean Penn...
05:27Simon Pegg.
05:28To quote Simon Pegg...
05:29From his Criterion Closet Visit, all right?
05:32Entertainment is an overrated function of art sometimes.
05:35Entertainment is an overrated function of art.
05:37Sometimes being made uncomfortable is the point.
05:41As pretentious as that sounds, I think sometimes we do need to be challenged as audiences,
05:45and I think this movie is delivering that challenge.
05:47It was my most anticipated movie of the year, and it absolutely delivered.
05:51So, absolutely go see this.
05:52It's got my sign of approval.
05:54Now we're going to get into spoilers.
05:55Three, two, one.
05:57Spoilers.
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06:20Now, back to the video.
06:21Let's just get into it.
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06:23Please leave now.
06:24All right.
06:25So, Zendaya, when she was younger, when she was 15,
06:29planned to commit a mass...
06:32And it's bad.
06:33It's a bad, off-putting secret, all right?
06:36Like, the thing falls out of the room.
06:38But there's a couple different ways to slice this.
06:40So, first off, they go around the table,
06:42and I thought every secret was low-key fucking bad.
06:46Like, they were all bad.
06:47Of course, it was the worst thing they've ever done.
06:48So, Mike's secret was that he was with this girlfriend that he didn't particularly like,
06:52and then, like, a dog came up, and he, like, kind of used her as a human shield.
06:55That feels straight out of Seinfeld, in my opinion.
06:58So, pretty bad.
06:59Then we go to Alana Haynes' one, all right?
07:01So, Rachel's secret.
07:03Now, this one is notably pretty fucking bad, all right?
07:06She locks someone who, later, they have a discussion around,
07:09might have been mentally disabled.
07:10But she locks someone in a cupboard and then left him behind.
07:14And I think she was being disingenuous and lying when she said,
07:16oh, I would have told someone eventually.
07:17Like, the fact that I could deal if she locks someone in a cupboard
07:20is, like, some weird childish thing.
07:21But the fact that she didn't tell someone when she got home,
07:23she lied about it, she didn't tell anyone,
07:25she avoided telling anyone about it, that was fucking bad, all right?
07:27I didn't believe her when she said,
07:29oh, I would have told someone eventually.
07:30It's like, when were you going to do that?
07:31Now, in saying this, though, we can forgive her, right?
07:34Because she was young.
07:35Then we get Charlie's, which was the fact that he cyberbullied someone online.
07:39I almost think it's a nice flip side of the coin of Emma, right?
07:42And Emma's secret is, yeah, when she was 15,
07:45she got to the point where she brought a gun to school and was ready to do it.
07:49And the initial thing that stopped her
07:51was the fact that another one happened that day at a mall.
07:54And I guess the reading I had of it was simply just like,
07:57oh, like, I don't want them to steal my thunder on this day.
08:00I guess I'll do another day.
08:02Now, I will say, that is the worst part of the story for me.
08:06The fact that she didn't stop because she realized it was the wrong thing to do.
08:08The fact that she stopped really because it felt like,
08:11oh, okay, well, I guess they stole my thunder.
08:12Maybe I'll do it another day.
08:14But when she decided not to do it because someone stole her thunder,
08:17then she almost had this force come to Jesus moment where
08:20these people kind of misread her and thought she was actually like an anti-gun person
08:24and then like called her in to be an activist.
08:27And then by doing this initially performatively or initially just to have friends,
08:31she actually got on board.
08:32And in my opinion, somewhat redeemed herself.
08:35You know what I mean?
08:36Like, and this is where I think the movie and maybe my video itself
08:39is going to start get challenging because
08:41I actually had a bit of empathy for Emma as a character.
08:46I don't know about you guys, but like, yes, she thought about that thing.
08:50But my first response, especially given the fact of what Rachel heard,
08:54which was literally just the secret of when I was younger,
08:57I thought about doing a mass.
08:59All right.
09:00The fact that she thought about doing that to me, when I heard that,
09:03I was just like, oh my God, like high school must've been fucking terrible for her.
09:07She must've been really dealing with a lot mentally unwell.
09:10Like, is she okay?
09:11Like, is she okay now?
09:12Like Jesus.
09:13And what I found interesting was the way Rachel responded to me felt like
09:17she must've never been friends with Emma at all.
09:19Now in saying that, I do get that she was going to have a loaded reaction
09:23because of course her cousin was a victim in one of those, right?
09:26So I do understand it to an extent, but I don't know about you guys,
09:30but I felt really quite bad for Emma throughout the movie.
09:34And I think that's what this movie is wrangling with.
09:36Like, are we our worst thoughts?
09:38Are we, you know, where do you kind of draw the line of,
09:41well, the intention is enough, you know?
09:43I mean, obviously they bring up a parallel later when Charlie almost cheats
09:48or kind of did cheat essentially.
09:49Like, I don't think anyone would be thrilled if their partner did what Charlie did,
09:53but they're clearly drawing a parallel where it's just on the edge
09:56and then just stops, you know?
09:57So now while I understand Rachel's response being fairly heightened
10:01because of her cousin, at the same time, yeah, like Charlie says,
10:05given what she did by putting the kid in the closet
10:08and how bad that could have gone as well,
10:10I'm actually surprised she wasn't a little more understanding of Emma.
10:13And again, like, maybe this is just different people
10:15and maybe this is a lot more sensitive in America.
10:18But for me, I was just like, okay, okay, Zendaya isn't that person now.
10:22Emma isn't that person now.
10:23She clearly hasn't done anything like that since then.
10:26So clearly she was in an incredibly dark place when she was younger.
10:28But truthfully, I don't know about you guys,
10:30but like there were like three or four kids at my school
10:33that said some absolutely insane shit when they were younger.
10:36Stuff that I thought about during this movie and went,
10:39damn, like, I can't believe we all just went,
10:40oh, nah, he'll grow out of that.
10:41Like, that was a crazy fucking thing to say, you know?
10:44So now Rachel had every right to want to pull back from Emma.
10:47If Rachel was genuinely uncomfortable being around Emma,
10:50given what her cousin went through,
10:52and it is really a sore spot
10:53and she couldn't go through with the wedding,
10:54that's fine.
10:55That's actually fine.
10:56But I actually expected a sort of empathetic response
11:00slightly from Rachel.
11:01Like maybe a thing of like,
11:02hey, Emma, look, I'm really sorry.
11:04I know that's not who you are,
11:05but I'm just struggling to get over it.
11:07Best of luck with the wedding,
11:09but I'm just going to pull back.
11:10It was this really aggressive, judgmental vibe
11:13to a point where I almost felt like,
11:15damn, like Emma is being ostracized
11:17as if she did this thing.
11:18Now I will say the tidbit of information we are given
11:21that Rachel I don't think is given
11:23is the fact that the only thing that stopped
11:25Emma from doing it initially
11:27was the fact that like someone stole her thunder that day.
11:30So I was sort of like,
11:31okay, that part's not great.
11:33But Rachel didn't know that part.
11:35All Rachel heard was I was thinking of doing this mass
11:37and then I didn't go through with it.
11:39In which case I'm sort of like,
11:40okay, she obviously felt bad, didn't do it.
11:42And it's like, it's not ideal.
11:43It's actually fucking scary,
11:45but it's like, I don't know.
11:46The only person I thought was having kind of like
11:48a response I understood going through all the phases
11:52where I'm like, yeah,
11:52I kind of get everything you're going through
11:54was Charlie himself.
11:56Charlie is the one that has to spend his life
11:57with this person.
11:58He's obviously thinking back to every time
12:00she was even a bit aggressive,
12:02slapping him in bed and swearing at a driver
12:07and all this stuff.
12:07I'm like, well, these are valid questions.
12:09He's the one that's going to spend his life with her.
12:10He wants to know that the mother of his kids
12:13and all this stuff is actually mentally all there.
12:15But like, I don't know.
12:17Like I found it really interesting
12:18because yeah, I felt kind of bad.
12:20I was like, oh baby, who hurt you?
12:21Which maybe is a bad response.
12:23And I'm not saying that anyone who is the victim
12:26in a mass deserves it at all.
12:28But you know, the little flashbacks
12:29we got to, the bullying and stuff,
12:31I was like, okay, I got it.
12:32Like she was in a really dark, tormented place.
12:34And if anything, I thought this movie
12:36actually was like bringing some interesting thoughts
12:38around empathy, understanding, growth, change.
12:42And like, you know, when Charlie pushes at the idea,
12:45now yes, it does feel like a flimsy excuse,
12:47a flimsy defense when he says it.
12:49But I think there is some truth to the defense
12:51that Charlie offers when he says like,
12:52look, like for young kids growing up in America,
12:54this is something they think of
12:56when they are getting bullied,
12:57when they're going through a tough time.
12:58Now, yes, he does actually amplify
13:00and kind of like fudge and lie around
13:03to build more empathy around the fact
13:04that she lost a friend.
13:06But I actually thought he kind of got onto something here
13:08where it's like, yes,
13:08this is probably something people think about
13:10because it's a known thing to do.
13:12There is this vibe of like,
13:14oh, I'm getting picked on.
13:15I'll show you, you know?
13:16Even that song Teenagers from My Chemical Romance
13:18was exploring that line, you know,
13:20this idea of like, you know,
13:22that line of if you're troubled and hurt,
13:24what you've got under your shirt
13:25will make them pay for the things you did, right?
13:26Like, this idea of like,
13:28I know the ultimate way to get back
13:30to the people that hurt me.
13:31It's not good.
13:32It's juvenile, childish, dangerous.
13:34It's the worst thing ever.
13:35But like, I think Zendaya, Emma, knows this.
13:38And her response throughout the movie
13:40of basically being like,
13:41yeah, that was a fucking terrible thing.
13:42Yeah, I'm really not proud of it.
13:44Like the entire movie,
13:45it felt like she'd actually like,
13:46processed it already,
13:48felt immense guilt, immense shame.
13:50And she almost just let it slip
13:51as almost this relief
13:52when she was drunk over this drinking game.
13:55I thought it was like really human
13:57and well done.
13:58And given his previous films
14:00that felt a lot more sardonic
14:01and emotionally disconnected,
14:02I was pretty struck by how
14:04enthralling this line was.
14:06And again, I had empathy for Charlie
14:07because I was like,
14:08this is actually a lot to process
14:10and a lot to deal with.
14:11But yeah, I'm being honest
14:12and I extend the floor to you too.
14:14Like, if I found out that my wife
14:17or my best friend
14:18or even my brother,
14:18if someone came up to me
14:19and was like,
14:20look, when I was younger,
14:21I got this close
14:21to doing something really terrible.
14:23Now, yes, to be fair,
14:24the way Emma kind of delivered it
14:25was pretty flippant.
14:27It was over a drinking game,
14:28but they were playing a drinking game.
14:29But I'm saying like,
14:30if I found this out about someone,
14:31my first response would have been like,
14:33holy shit,
14:33like, are they okay?
14:34Like, were they okay?
14:35Like, what was their upbringing?
14:37Like, oh my God.
14:38But yeah, I don't know.
14:39I don't know about you guys.
14:40I thought Rachel kind of sucked,
14:42even with the fact that like
14:43her cousin went through
14:44something like that.
14:45I'm like, okay,
14:46I don't know if the right response here
14:47is to treat Emma
14:48like she's done this thing
14:50and completely socially ostracize her,
14:52ruin her wedding
14:53and come for her.
14:54I get the hurt.
14:55I get not wanting to be friends
14:56with her anymore.
14:57I actually get all that.
14:58But did you need to be cruel?
14:59No, not really.
15:00And if anything,
15:01the way she was treated
15:02throughout this movie
15:03probably brought her back
15:04to how she was treated
15:05when she was in high school.
15:07Really interesting stuff.
15:08Now, I've got some general thoughts
15:09I'm just going to go through.
15:10They might be a little out of order
15:11and scatterbrained.
15:12Robert Pattinson,
15:14Charlie's final speech at the end
15:15after he's been through
15:16this total rigmarole,
15:17he's almost cheated,
15:19he's completely like self-destructing
15:21and he gives this speech
15:22from the heart
15:23where he's saying
15:24the things he likes about her.
15:26You know,
15:26he even says the line of like,
15:27oh, we have great sex, etc.
15:29But like,
15:29I thought he was being
15:31really earnest here.
15:32It almost felt like
15:32these two people
15:33had gone through
15:34the total emotional ringer
15:35and they're almost trying
15:36to block out
15:37all the external noise
15:38and just focus on one another.
15:39I thought,
15:40in this interesting moment
15:42where both of these characters
15:43have done some awful things,
15:45I mean,
15:45to be fair,
15:46I didn't think Zendaya,
15:47Emma did anything awful
15:48in this movie itself
15:50in terms of what we actually
15:51saw on screen.
15:52Obviously,
15:52hers was like 15,
15:5416 years ago.
15:54I was actually really rooting
15:56for them when he was giving
15:57this speech,
15:57weirdly enough.
15:58I'm wondering if any of you
15:59were feeling the same
16:00or you guys were like,
16:01fuck this guy.
16:02But I don't know,
16:03at this point,
16:03it was this weird feeling
16:05of like,
16:06yeah,
16:06I kind of want him
16:07to stumble his way
16:08through this speech.
16:08I will say,
16:09I'm leaving it up to you guys.
16:10There were a couple of moments
16:11where this movie
16:12played with imagination,
16:13you know,
16:14like there was a point
16:14where she was talking
16:15to Charlie early on
16:16where he came home
16:17the night after,
16:19you know,
16:19their big drunk thing
16:20where she said the thing,
16:21right?
16:22And Charlie's seen there,
16:23he's brought coffee
16:24and she imagines him
16:24giving her a massive kiss
16:26and cuddling and whatever
16:26and that clearly didn't happen.
16:28Did you guys think
16:29the actual chat
16:30with Mike happened?
16:31I couldn't tell initially.
16:32I think it did happen,
16:33but initially it felt like
16:34it was framed
16:34as sort of like
16:35this nightmare scenario
16:36she was imagining Charlie saying.
16:38not super sure
16:39how did it land for you
16:40because later on in the movie
16:41I thought she was imagining
16:42something outside
16:43but it was actually a chat
16:44that Misha was having
16:46with I think Rachel
16:47but yeah,
16:47early on in the movie
16:48wondering how that landed for you.
16:50I assume it's real
16:51but initially it felt like
16:52it might have been a dream sequence
16:53just because we'd had so many
16:54and speaking of dream sequences
16:56absolutely loved
16:57the dream sequence
16:58where Robert Pattinson
16:59Charlie was imagining
17:00everyone had been shot
17:02at the wedding
17:02also the bit where
17:04her ear was leaking blood
17:05fantastic visuals
17:06reminded me
17:07it was almost like
17:07an elevated version
17:08of those dream sequences
17:10we've seen in dream scenario
17:11I actually thought
17:12funnily enough
17:13even though this movie
17:13wasn't about
17:14strictly dream sequences
17:15I thought they did it better
17:16in this movie.
17:17Again, Zendaya was excellent
17:19she managed to walk this line
17:20where it's simultaneously
17:21like I was horrified
17:22when I heard the secret initially
17:24but at the same time
17:25I felt a lot of empathy for her
17:26I think you could see
17:27this scared
17:29fragile child in her
17:30this person that was
17:31completely remorseful
17:32and felt really bad
17:33for what they did
17:34but also, you know
17:35kind of owned the fact
17:36that like yeah
17:36I was young
17:37I had a tough time
17:38in high school
17:38and it was really
17:39fucked up of me
17:39but that's not who I am now
17:41and you could see her
17:42going into her shell
17:43and going back to where
17:44she was when she was younger
17:45I thought all of that
17:46was really, really well done
17:47and I thought Zendaya
17:48was really committed
17:49to this role
17:50this was a pretty
17:51demanding
17:52challenging
17:52kind of controversial
17:54role to take
17:54and like all the shots
17:56where she's posing
17:57essentially with guns
17:58and all this stuff
17:58like these two
18:00are fully committed
18:01to this movie
18:01in a way I really
18:02really respect it
18:03and admire
18:03it was the only way
18:04to really approach
18:05this material
18:05I thought the cheating
18:07sequence with Charlie
18:08was so pathetic
18:09that you almost
18:10I mean it was
18:11objectively bad
18:12alright
18:12and that's the thing
18:13right
18:13like I'm really curious
18:14how most people
18:15are going to respond
18:15to this movie
18:16because I had two
18:17people next to me
18:18and I don't know
18:19like maybe
18:20maybe I'm the
18:21fucked up one
18:22alright
18:22maybe the normal
18:23response to have
18:23is Zendaya
18:24is a piece of shit
18:25I didn't think so
18:26I don't know about
18:26you guys
18:27but I was like
18:28wow
18:28Zendaya almost
18:29did a fucking
18:30terrible thing
18:31and she's clearly
18:31grown since then
18:32and she was clearly
18:33in a mentally
18:33terrible place
18:34and maybe there's
18:35a discussion
18:35to be had
18:36around what
18:37makes people
18:37get into this
18:38place
18:38how people
18:39get into this
18:39place
18:40I almost feel
18:40like some
18:41people are going
18:41to engage
18:41with this
18:42in a way
18:42of being
18:43intellectually
18:43dishonest
18:44like we've
18:44never had
18:45now I'm not
18:45going to say
18:46we've all had
18:46thought that
18:47bad
18:47but we've
18:48all had
18:48some thoughts
18:49that you
18:49would not
18:50want repeated
18:50and I think
18:51there's some
18:51boldness
18:52in the way
18:52this director
18:53and writer
18:54plays with
18:54these ideas
18:55so I'm
18:56not saying
18:57Emma deserved
18:58what Charlie
18:59then did later
19:00in the movie
19:00right almost
19:01sleeping with
19:01Misha
19:02almost sleeping
19:03with Misha
19:03not at all
19:04very very bad
19:05but I did
19:06understand how
19:07Charlie
19:08bounced around
19:09the emotional
19:10ringer up
19:10until this
19:11point
19:11you know I
19:12mean I
19:12don't think
19:12he was doing
19:12it out of
19:13spite
19:13I don't
19:13think he
19:14was trying
19:14to kind
19:15of punish
19:16Emma
19:16or anything
19:17it was
19:17almost
19:17this weird
19:18emotional
19:20release
19:20it was almost
19:21like so
19:21pathetic
19:21that it's
19:22hard to be
19:23mad at him
19:23and again
19:25obviously it's
19:26drawing a
19:26parallel like
19:27oh he almost
19:28did a really
19:28bad thing
19:29but I mean
19:29he did kiss
19:29her he did
19:30clearly intend
19:30to for a
19:31split second
19:31it was really
19:32bad it was
19:33really really
19:33bad it was
19:34bad bad
19:34bad bad
19:35bad I
19:35almost say
19:36thankfully
19:36he stopped
19:37himself
19:37and I will
19:38say the
19:39difference
19:39between Zendaya
19:40and Robert
19:41Pattinson is
19:42Robert Pattinson
19:42at least in
19:43this scene
19:43stopped himself
19:44on his own
19:45accord
19:46like someone
19:46else came
19:47in pushed
19:47him aside
19:48and then
19:48started banging
19:48this chick
19:49instead
19:49you know it
19:50wasn't like
19:50Emma's situation
19:51where she was
19:51going to do
19:52something and
19:52then someone
19:53else did so
19:53she's like I
19:54might do it
19:54another day and
19:55then luckily
19:56someone actually
19:56like you know
19:57showed her the
19:58light
19:58in saying that
19:59though I also
19:59throw the question
20:00out to you
20:00guys do you
20:01think there is a
20:02redemption status
20:03there I didn't
20:04think Emma was
20:05being particularly
20:05performative by
20:07joining the
20:08anti-gun club
20:09I genuinely
20:09thought what
20:10happened was
20:10initially this
20:12guy came up
20:12and showed
20:13interest in
20:13her right
20:14she stopped
20:14being this
20:15like bullied
20:16wallflower
20:17this bullied
20:17person that
20:18knew nothing
20:18but social
20:19anxiety and
20:20social suffering
20:20now she's with
20:21a group of
20:22people and
20:22yeah maybe
20:22there was a
20:23bit of fake
20:23it till she
20:24makes it right
20:24maybe initially
20:25she was there
20:26not really
20:27agreeing with
20:27the cause but
20:28slowly she did
20:29and she started
20:29making friends
20:30and started
20:30making community
20:31and I do
20:32think she
20:33earnestly changed
20:33she threw
20:34the gun in
20:35the river
20:35like is that
20:36not showing
20:36change I've
20:37read reviews
20:37saying like
20:38oh we didn't
20:39interrogate why
20:39she wanted to
20:40do this
20:40we know why
20:41she wanted to
20:41do this
20:42and I will
20:43say I think
20:43if the movie
20:44spent way more
20:45time building
20:46like empathy
20:46and showing
20:47really awful
20:47bullying montages
20:48it would have
20:49veered in the
20:50territory of
20:51almost condoning
20:51the actual
20:52action she was
20:53thinking of doing
20:54so I actually
20:54think the line
20:55they walked
20:56was really good
20:56in building
20:57enough understanding
20:58to know why
20:59she was sort of
21:00thinking about that
21:01while also being
21:02like okay you
21:03know here's how
21:04this situation can
21:05change right
21:05she was brought
21:06into a group
21:07she was educated
21:07about guns
21:08and she went oh
21:09my god I can't
21:09fucking do this
21:10right like to
21:11me it was pretty
21:12clear all right
21:12like she made a
21:13sense of community
21:14and belonging that
21:15she didn't have
21:15before she found
21:16her little group
21:17and there we are
21:17but I think more
21:18importantly her
21:19throwing her dad's
21:20gun in the river
21:21I think does
21:22clearly show some
21:23growth like I'm
21:24surprised I don't
21:25know what people
21:25would want her to
21:26do now to repent
21:27for like this
21:28thought process and
21:29yes she did get to
21:30a pretty fucking
21:31bold point with it
21:32and the fact that
21:33the only thing that
21:33stopped her was this
21:34coincidence yeah it's
21:35bad it's bad she
21:36knows it's bad
21:37though she knows
21:37it's bad yeah I
21:39thought Rachel was
21:39carrying on a bit
21:40personally but yeah I
21:41thought the movie
21:42walked this incredibly
21:43fine line where I
21:45still was rooting for
21:46them both at the end
21:47when Charlie went to
21:49the restaurant like
21:50they said they would
21:51like you know they
21:51were talking about how
21:52like when people win
21:53Oscars they will then
21:54go to stuff like five
21:56guys like Michael B
21:56Jordan did recently to
21:58get burgers right so
21:59they were going to go to
22:00a fast food restaurant
22:01and he goes there and
22:03I was I was seeing
22:04there going oh how
22:05sweet and then I was
22:06devastated because I was
22:07like knowing this guy's
22:08other films this is
22:09going to be bleak she's
22:10not going to show up and
22:11then when she showed up
22:12in that orange puffer I
22:13was terrified it was
22:14going to be a dream
22:14sequence but I was
22:15really really happy when
22:17they ended up getting
22:17together like I was
22:18genuinely swept off my
22:20feet and I thought it
22:21was really sweet in a
22:22weird way like I thought
22:23there was something in
22:24there about knowing your
22:25partner fully knowing
22:26them taking them warts and
22:28all you know putting your
22:29love to the test and I
22:30thought there was
22:31something sweet in there
22:32of like okay like she
22:34she's actively trying to
22:35reset their relationship you
22:37know he is also a bit
22:38of a dishonest guy he's
22:40a bit of a liar he's a
22:41bit weird and snaky and
22:42I think they both let all
22:43this inside noise get in
22:45and I think they both kind
22:46of match each other's
22:47frequency at the end and
22:48I surprisingly found the
22:50ending cathartic and
22:52emotionally resonant and
22:54really sweet it was
22:55surprising like I was
22:56actually close to
22:57tearing up which I
22:58wasn't expecting given
22:59the vibe of this movie up
23:00until this point I will
23:01say though it's
23:02interesting because I
23:03thought Rachel was
23:04being again Rachel had
23:05every right to pull out
23:06of the wedding and be
23:07like I'm put off by you
23:09I can't deal with that
23:10I'm so sorry fine but I
23:12thought Rachel was
23:13coming on a bit strong
23:14lacking a bit of
23:15emotional intelligence
23:16personally and
23:17understanding but what I
23:19will say is similarly to
23:20how I thought Rachel was
23:21lacking some understanding
23:22to Emma I thought Emma
23:25absolutely sucked about
23:26this DJ doing heroin you
23:28know what I'm gonna say
23:29it if you saw your
23:30wedding DJ doing heroin
23:31on the street I probably
23:33wouldn't be particularly
23:34like it might put me
23:35off too alright but in
23:37saying that she showed
23:38up to the wedding
23:38completely clean alright
23:40like no signs of drugs
23:42she was gonna do a good
23:43job on top of that why
23:45you leave it till the
23:46day of the wedding or
23:46the day before the
23:47wedding and then to like
23:49call her out on what
23:50you saw her doing when
23:51she wasn't on your time
23:52I don't know about that
23:54one man like it would
23:55have been one thing if
23:56they cancelled it behind
23:57the scenes you know they
23:58didn't wait until the day
23:59to do it but to do it in
24:01person and to specifically
24:02he could quote the fact
24:03that like oh you know
24:05we saw you on the street
24:05doing this and like
24:06interrogating her like
24:07yeah I was with the DJ
24:08calling her the sea bomb
24:09and being pissed at
24:10Charlie too like they
24:11could have done this way
24:13more maturely they could
24:13have cancelled it before
24:15the wedding they could
24:16have said oh I'm so
24:16sorry we don't have the
24:17budget for it or
24:18something's gone wrong
24:18or like actually my
24:19family's surprising me
24:20with a wedding band or
24:21this or that or the
24:22whatever right pay a
24:23cancellation fee and
24:24move on but I thought
24:25the way they went about
24:26this was absolutely awful
24:28and came off super judgy
24:29and at this point similar
24:31to how I've seen
24:31there going Rachel how
24:32can you judge Emma I
24:33was now seen there being
24:34like Emma how can you
24:35judge this poor DJ but I
24:37do think there is
24:38something in this movie
24:39about not letting inside
24:40noise in I think Charlie
24:42would have got to this
24:43conclusion himself I think
24:44if Charlie just like sat
24:46with himself talked it
24:47out with Emma he probably
24:48would have been like okay
24:49so that's not you now that
24:51was pretty crazy like he
24:52had every right to be
24:53disturbed for a little
24:54little thrown off for a
24:55while like I'm sure if we
24:56truly revealed the worst
24:57things any of us have
24:58thought to our partner
24:59like the actual worst
25:00things like yeah there
25:01would be some tough
25:02chat so I think he
25:04would have got there but
25:04I think there is
25:05something in there about
25:05not listening to your
25:07fucking friends about
25:07your relationship like
25:09they exacerbated this
25:10situation way too much
25:11and I actually really
25:12started to respect
25:14Charlie towards the end
25:15as he actually started
25:16to push back like in
25:17that speech where he
25:18started being like yeah
25:18she fucked up but this
25:19is the one I love fuck
25:21you guys like I was
25:22like yeah hell yeah
25:23like and yeah Charlie
25:24needs to work on being
25:26more honest grabbing
25:27things by the balls and
25:28just being like here is
25:29who I am all right like
25:30even when he threw out
25:31the mug with like the
25:32gun on it right like he
25:33should have been like
25:34yeah I threw out the
25:35mug because it's a
25:36little triggering because
25:37of what you told me like
25:38sorry but that's what's
25:39going on I will say I
25:40loved the whole sequence
25:41where they're getting the
25:42photos done and he
25:43starts imagining that
25:44he's holding like the
25:45young version of Emma
25:46and then he's like walking
25:47around with the young
25:48version of Emma all the
25:49cutaway gags the young
25:51version of Emma everything
25:52with the young version of
25:53Emma was fantastic like
25:55insane cutaway gags I
25:57thought that was so funny
25:58and demented and again
26:00like an actual real
26:01interesting insight it
26:02was reminding me of the
26:04dirties and we need to
26:05talk about Kevin those
26:06were the movies I
26:06couldn't bring up in the
26:07spoiler free section
26:08but the dirties actually
26:10fleshes out these ideas
26:11of you know what makes
26:13someone go to this now
26:14obviously I'm not
26:15defending shooters or
26:17anything but I do think
26:18there is something in
26:19there around people that
26:20are horrendously bullied
26:22getting this idea in their
26:23heads to be like well I'll
26:24show them you know and I
26:26think the dirties explores
26:27this really well this
26:28movie kind of touched on
26:29it but I think it was
26:30avoiding it to not look
26:31like it was kind of
26:33championing these actions
26:34or anything but yeah
26:35really interesting stuff
26:36and I do actually think
26:38it prodded a little at
26:40having a bigger discussion
26:41again that line Charlie
26:42had later in the movie
26:43where he's like well this
26:44is an idea that people
26:45probably get in their
26:46heads a fair bit you
26:47know I actually thought
26:48that was like a barely
26:49compelling reasoning I
26:51did really like the meet
26:51cute at the start of the
26:52film where he like went
26:53on to Goodreads to search
26:55up about this book
26:55pretended to know the
26:56book got caught out
26:57instantly and then made
26:58the argument that like
26:59oh you know if I like
27:00read the book that's
27:01even worse that this
27:02movie seemed to be all
27:04about like is the
27:05hypothetical worse than
27:06the actual action is
27:07intention as bad as
27:08actually doing the thing
27:09and yeah I don't know
27:11because I'm someone that
27:12thinks if you attempt to
27:13take someone's life like
27:15you should end up in
27:16jail with the same
27:16punishment like if the
27:17only thing that stops
27:18you is like a cop getting
27:20in the way or something
27:20like that like see you
27:21later you know what I
27:22mean like you're about
27:23to do it but at the
27:24same time like I don't
27:25know like look at Emma's
27:26character right like yes
27:28okay she got interrupted
27:29that day and chose not to
27:30do it but dare I say
27:32that's a bit of a
27:32brittle spirit right like
27:34if that's the thing that
27:34stops you and then you
27:35never do it again like
27:36maybe you were never
27:37going to do it who
27:38knows right maybe it was
27:38this perfect set of
27:39circumstances where
27:41first the videotape kept
27:42failing you know the
27:43webcam keep failing and
27:44the computer shut down
27:46and then she ended up
27:46doing it on the day
27:47someone else did and
27:48then this kid came up
27:48and was like hey here's
27:49another way and then you
27:51know she threw out the
27:51gun and like oh she's
27:52like oh I've got
27:53friends now you know
27:53like maybe it's this
27:54perfect set of
27:55circumstances and I'm
27:56sure she looks back at
27:57now and goes holy fuck
27:58what was wrong with me
27:59and I think she's
28:00clearly processed it
28:01completely that's why
28:02she felt confident
28:03being like yeah I did
28:04this thing was fucking
28:04nuts everyone has to
28:06take a second but yeah
28:08interesting I also love
28:09the reveal of why she
28:10was deaf in one year
28:12fantastic you know
28:13initially I was like oh
28:14is this just a quirk
28:15they've introduced in
28:16this movie but after you
28:17learn the secret it's
28:18like a massive nice clue
28:20you know I also love
28:21the idea that she uses
28:22role play throughout the
28:23movie like similar to
28:24what they do at the
28:24start right they do a
28:25reset and she does that
28:27throughout the movie
28:27there's like role play
28:28of like hey nice to
28:29meet you it's it's this
28:30interesting thing where
28:31maybe she is a character
28:32who after what she went
28:33through in high school and
28:34what she almost did she
28:35now spends the rest of
28:36her life wishing she
28:37could go back wishing she
28:38could restart you know and
28:40she does that in the
28:41relationship I will say I
28:42also thought like a
28:43really well-written scene
28:44I will say Ari Aster and
28:46Christoph Borghli seem
28:47obsessed with erectile
28:49dysfunction scenes like
28:50sex scenes where the
28:51guy can't get up or
28:52something's going wrong
28:53right but I thought the
28:55scene with Charlie not
28:56being able to get it up
28:57was a very like human
28:58moment like a well
29:00realized moment like I
29:01feel like if you learn
29:02something absolutely
29:03insane about your
29:05partner like that like
29:06it would it would be
29:07tough and I do
29:08appreciate that he
29:09wasn't trying to like
29:10punish her he wasn't
29:10trying to be a dick like
29:11he was earnestly trying
29:12to sleep with her and he
29:14just couldn't because he
29:14can't get off his brain
29:15and then she has a
29:16moment of like don't
29:17think about pink
29:18elephants right she's
29:18like just stop thinking
29:19about it he's like well
29:20now I'm thinking about
29:20it it was it was good
29:21and yeah I don't know I
29:22might be on completely
29:23the wrong side of this
29:24but the whole movie I was
29:25sort of rooting for him
29:26to take her as she is I
29:27think there is something
29:28in there in this movie
29:29about taking someone
29:30warts and all and knowing
29:31that they might have a
29:32past and might have like
29:34mental challenges in
29:36their past and like stuff
29:37they've been through and
29:38stuff they've done and
29:38like yes it would be a
29:40totally different
29:40discussion if she went
29:42through it but I do
29:43think you know this will
29:44lead to further
29:45discussions about what her
29:47high school experience
29:48was like what led her
29:49down that path and I
29:50don't know like I was
29:51just thinking about in my
29:52own like like if I found
29:54out like a family member
29:55almost thought about this
29:56like yeah I would probably
29:57have a lot of long
29:58discussions with them too
29:59but you know like I don't
30:01know like I thought this
30:02was interesting
30:03I also love that this
30:05like book appeared on
30:06Charlie's desk about the
30:08guns like very surreal
30:09coincidence sort of stuff
30:10unless you guys caught it
30:11I don't remember seeing who
30:13actually sent the book
30:14but really interestingly
30:15just happened to have this
30:16book that kind of
30:17sexualized guns and it
30:18weirdly enough reminded me
30:19of that like Jackie Brown
30:20scene where they're
30:21watching gun advertisements
30:22on the TV with like hot
30:23babes you know I got the
30:25vibe I got the vibe that
30:26she was a very tormented
30:27lonely child and I liked
30:29all these additions like
30:30you know she she thought a
30:31gun in particular was like
30:33a cool way to go about it
30:34she thought it was cool
30:35again it speaks the way
30:36America has sort of like
30:38glamorized this sort of
30:38stuff and what leads to it
30:40but not in an overly
30:40preachy way it's just been
30:41like yeah this is part of
30:43almost like pop culture
30:43in a way it almost
30:44reminded me of what
30:45natural-born killers was
30:47kind of interrogating
30:47yeah I don't know I think
30:49there's going to be a lot
30:49of people that are
30:50completely intellectually
30:51dishonest when engaging
30:53with this movie like I
30:54could even tell in my
30:55theater there were people
30:55like I don't know almost
30:57like performing being
30:58like oh disgusting oh I
31:00don't oh and I'm like
31:02okay like yes of course
31:04this is horrifying subject
31:06matter but at the same
31:07time I'm not going to
31:08pretend that it isn't
31:09shocking that like
31:10probably a bunch of kids
31:11have thought about this
31:12sort of stuff now I
31:13think these things are
31:14worth talking about I
31:15think what leads to
31:16someone doing this is
31:17worth talking about if
31:18this movie in a weird
31:19way kind of leads to
31:20discussions around that I
31:21think that's a net
31:21positive but more
31:23importantly I don't think
31:24many people would
31:25actually play the game as
31:26honestly as Mike Rachel
31:28Emma and Charlie did you
31:30know if people were
31:31asked like what the worst
31:32thing they ever did was
31:33they'll probably be like
31:33oh I shoplifted once or I
31:35stole from this place or
31:36like oh you know like I
31:37cheated on my high school
31:38boyfriend or girlfriend or
31:39whatever right but like
31:40there's probably something
31:41that emotionally or
31:42morally was like way way
31:44worse that people would
31:45like never admit and I
31:46almost thought there was
31:47something like refreshingly
31:49honest in Emma's
31:51character being like yeah
31:52this was like a really bad
31:53thing I did I can't believe
31:55it and yeah she let it
31:56slip while she was drunk so
31:58she didn't deliver it
31:58perfectly but maybe not
32:00with the sensitivity needed
32:01but they were playing a
32:02drinking game about the
32:03worst thing you've ever
32:04done like you know but
32:06yeah not to minimize it
32:07like it's a horrifying
32:08thing to learn but at
32:10the same time like this
32:11is the same person you've
32:12been friends with for
32:13Charlie this is the same
32:14person you've been
32:15proposed to and I do
32:16think there is something
32:17in there if they haven't
32:18repeated this behavior
32:20it's worth a little more
32:21discussion than a complete
32:22write-off but yeah I love
32:24this movie really
32:25interesting discussion this
32:26is the type of movie I
32:27want it leads to
32:29fascinating interesting
32:30discussions I love a
32:31movie that I'm talking
32:32about in the car ride
32:33home and this is one of
32:34those thank you so much
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