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00:00Oh, I hope there'll be a sequel.
00:01There's a script.
00:02It's, I laughed out loud, a lot, which is rare.
00:06So we'll see.
00:07I mean, it's not up to me.
00:10Hey, Harper's Bazaar, I'm Lisa Kudrow,
00:12and this is Building Character.
00:15What's your name?
00:17I'm Ursula.
00:18Ursula?
00:20I like that name.
00:21I don't.
00:22I hate it.
00:24That is Ursula, the waitress, on Mad About You.
00:28I had been fired from Frasier, which was a big show.
00:33I was starting to run out of money,
00:35about to look for a day job,
00:37and my agent called in the morning and said,
00:40Mad About You is offering you a part.
00:43We think it's too small.
00:46The character doesn't have a name,
00:47it just says waitress,
00:49and it's only like two or three lines.
00:51We say pass, and I said, nope, I am not gonna pass.
00:55It's the best show on TV.
00:57Who am I to say no?
00:58By the end of that week,
01:02Danny Jacobson came over and said,
01:04so you're pretty funny.
01:06Would it be okay with you
01:07if you were in five more episodes,
01:10which would make a total of six
01:12and make me a recurring character?
01:14And I said, yes.
01:16I didn't have to look for a day job.
01:18Many hundreds of millions of years ago,
01:21the Earth was ruled by...
01:22Excuse me one second.
01:23Do you think you're ever gonna want to go out with my cousin?
01:25Many hundreds of millions of years ago...
01:27I thought Mad About You was a big deal
01:30because of Paul Reiser and Helen Hunt
01:33and the cast of actors.
01:36Richard Kind was on it, Lila Kenzel,
01:38they were great.
01:39Everyone was great.
01:40Stephen Wright, who's brilliant,
01:42who I worshipped,
01:45I got to talk to him and hang out
01:47and that made me feel great.
01:49What are you doing here?
01:50Yeah, I was over there
01:52and then you said,
01:52excuse me, hello, miss,
01:53so now I'm here.
01:55No, no.
01:56How come you're working here?
01:57Because I was Ursula on Mad About You,
02:00one of the writers,
02:01his boyfriend at the time,
02:03David Crane,
02:04had a pilot called Friends Like Us.
02:07They were looking at
02:07who could play the role of Phoebe.
02:10Jeffrey suggested me.
02:12They had to address the fact
02:14that the same human is on Mad About You
02:18and then a half hour later,
02:19there she is on this show.
02:21They're twin sisters.
02:22Ah!
02:27Jennifer and Monica!
02:28Jennifer and Monica!
02:29Oh, my God!
02:31Jennifer and Monica!
02:32Oh, my God!
02:34This character is Phoebe from Friends.
02:36That was a very simple audition
02:38in that it was just sort of a monologue.
02:42It's in the pilot
02:43when Rachel's cutting up the credit cards
02:45and Phoebe is saying,
02:47my mom had just killed herself
02:48and I was, you know,
02:50my stepdad was in prison.
02:51To me, it's funny
02:52if she's sort of like,
02:54you know, like,
02:55as everyone knows,
02:56you know,
02:57when your mom kills herself
02:58and then your stepdad's in jail,
03:00you know, as it happens.
03:01I knew people like that.
03:03People who were like,
03:04ah, you know,
03:05just, it's no big deal.
03:07Like, big things happen to them.
03:08I could do that person.
03:10I now pronounce you
03:14husband and wife.
03:16Woo!
03:17Woo!
03:18Woo!
03:18Woo!
03:19Woo!
03:19Woo!
03:20Phoebe ending up with Mike
03:22was this very,
03:22I thought that was the right choice
03:24because there was also talk about
03:25maybe she ends up with David
03:28who was the science guy
03:29who's very sweet
03:31and Hank Azaria,
03:32come on,
03:32he's very talented.
03:33But Phoebe and Mike,
03:35that's who I think
03:36Marta and David liked.
03:38They did talk to me about it,
03:39but I could tell.
03:41I always imagined that
03:42Phoebe and Mike
03:43later on had kids
03:45and Phoebe really got into
03:48being the mom
03:49who brought the art supplies
03:51and the big projects
03:52and music stuff.
03:54I thought she'd be great at that
03:56and a great cheerleader
03:57for her kids.
03:57Smelly cat,
03:59smelly cat,
04:01it's not your fault.
04:04I realized smelly cat
04:06had taken a life of its own.
04:08Well, I wasn't sure
04:09which came first,
04:10whether they kept writing it in
04:14to make it something
04:15or it was something
04:16and so they kept writing it in.
04:18I swear,
04:19I don't look at big picture,
04:22especially in that time
04:23and with friends.
04:24It's like,
04:24okay, so what am I doing?
04:26Okay, great.
04:27Because Phoebe was kind of far away
04:29from who I was as a person
04:32and so to me,
04:33all I could do was,
04:36okay, evolution's wrong.
04:38Why?
04:38Okay, let me see.
04:39That was really all I could
04:41pay attention to
04:42in this pea brain of mine.
04:45Performing smelly cat
04:46with Taylor Swift
04:47in the biggest arena
04:49I would ever be in.
04:51That was a challenge
04:52that I was happy to take on
04:54and Taylor just made it so easy.
04:58She said,
04:59I plan these surprises
05:00for the people who come to see me
05:02because they've saved their money,
05:05they've bought the tickets,
05:06they've waited
05:07and it needs to be special.
05:08You know,
05:09the bigger they are,
05:11the nicer they are,
05:12is the truth.
05:13And so talented.
05:14Michelle,
05:15what are you up to?
05:17Okay,
05:19I invented post-its.
05:21You're kidding.
05:22You must have made a fortune.
05:24Well, yeah.
05:25There's Michelle Weinberger
05:27from Rome and Michelle.
05:29That was my very first audition
05:31ever on earth.
05:34I was in the groundlings.
05:36Robin Schiff,
05:36who had been a groundling,
05:37wrote a play
05:38called Ladies' Room.
05:39They were doing
05:40backers auditions
05:41and I auditioned
05:43to be airhead number two.
05:45Airhead number one says,
05:47ugh,
05:47I hate throwing up in public.
05:49Airhead number two says,
05:51me too.
05:52And I thought,
05:53oh, how funny
05:54if she makes me too
05:55seem like,
05:56what?
05:57Wait a minute.
05:59It's too crazy
06:00that you hate
06:01throwing up in public
06:02because I hate
06:03throwing up in public.
06:04Me too.
06:05And they thought
06:06it was funny
06:06so I got
06:07the backers audition.
06:08Then we did the play
06:09and they were named
06:10Romy and Michelle.
06:11I had been Michelle Weinberger
06:13since like 1987.
06:16Nice outfits.
06:17Post-its must be
06:18really lucrative.
06:22The clothes are another issue
06:24for that movie.
06:25That was Mona May
06:26who was phenomenally great.
06:29That was so much fun
06:31working with her.
06:31I also don't know
06:33what color looks best on me
06:36and what silhouette shape
06:38is good.
06:38I don't know.
06:39Luckily,
06:40Mira loved blue
06:41and she knew exactly
06:42what kind of silhouette
06:43she needed.
06:44Mona May,
06:45you know,
06:45came up with this
06:46like baby doll pink
06:48and this A-line silhouette
06:51that does look good on me.
06:52Yay.
06:52And all the suits
06:54and things
06:55and my favorite look
06:56was the businesswoman's lunch.
06:59I loved that.
07:00Night in my bed
07:02hear the clock tick
07:05and think of you.
07:07The dancing
07:08was choreographed.
07:10Smith was the choreographer
07:12who was so adaptable
07:15because Mira
07:16had taken ballet
07:17and thought
07:17it was very funny
07:18if she's just like
07:19twirling around
07:20and doing too much
07:21while I made it
07:22very clear
07:23I do not dance.
07:24But wouldn't it be funny
07:25if I just sort of posed
07:27and Smith
07:28put that in
07:29in a way
07:30that was really
07:32hilarious to me.
07:33I hope there will be
07:34a sequel.
07:35There's a script.
07:36It's,
07:36I laughed out loud
07:38a lot
07:39which is rare.
07:40So we'll see.
07:42I mean,
07:42it's not up to me.
07:44And I need to know
07:44that I'm being heard.
07:47Am I being heard?
07:49Fine.
07:50I'll get you juicy.
07:51No, no.
07:52Just take this in
07:53and make it more flattering.
07:55This is Valerie Cherish
07:57from The Comeback.
07:58Around 2003, 2004
08:01I couldn't get it
08:02out of my head
08:03that there's these
08:04reality shows now.
08:05Survivor
08:06had been on
08:07in the first season.
08:08It was the most
08:09despicable human
08:10that everyone decided
08:11should win.
08:12And Amazing Race,
08:14it's the most
08:15undignified
08:17view
08:17of humans
08:19I'd ever seen
08:20and they're signing up
08:21for it.
08:22And then there was
08:23the Osbournes
08:24which was funny
08:24and entertaining.
08:25They kind of seemed
08:26to know what they were doing.
08:27And Anna Nicole Smith
08:28which didn't feel
08:30good,
08:31safe,
08:32fine.
08:33Just started thinking
08:34about all of that
08:35and oh my God,
08:36what if an actress
08:37who's so desperate
08:38to be back
08:39in the spotlight
08:40that she agrees
08:41to do a reality show
08:42called The Comeback
08:44which to me also was
08:46ugh,
08:47how pathetic.
08:48Gotta get me a gay,
08:49Mickey.
08:49Gotta get a gay.
08:51Why don't I just
08:52call Lou?
08:52When The Comeback
08:54first came out
08:54in 2004
08:55we had no point
08:56of reference.
08:57You didn't have
08:57The Housewives yet.
08:59You had Orange County,
09:00it hadn't caught on
09:01yet,
09:02but it just all felt
09:04so punishing
09:05to her.
09:06It was before
09:07the acknowledgement
09:08of certain
09:10bad behavior.
09:12It's not as
09:12uncomfortable
09:13as it was
09:14when it first came out.
09:15Is there a third writer?
09:16That's the best part.
09:17You're not gonna have
09:18to deal with any
09:18asshole writers.
09:20It's being written
09:20by AI.
09:22Uh-huh.
09:23Wow.
09:24By season three
09:26we have moved off
09:27of reality shows
09:28so much
09:29because now
09:30we're all in
09:31our own reality show
09:33posting them
09:33you know
09:34on social media
09:35and like
09:36I don't like that take.
09:37Let me do another one.
09:38Okay.
09:39To bookend
09:40the first,
09:40second,
09:41and now
09:42the third season
09:44AI
09:44is what
09:46I think
09:46everyone's
09:47very concerned about.
09:49Oh.
09:51What?
09:52What do you want?
09:53What do you want?
09:54Just go!
09:57Oh!
09:58Oh!
09:59Perfect.
09:59Just perfect.
10:01This is
10:01Mrs. Griffith
10:02from Easy A.
10:03This was the second movie
10:05I was in
10:06with Emma Stone.
10:07In 2008
10:08we shot
10:09a movie called
10:09Paper Man
10:10and Emma Stone
10:11was in that
10:12with Jeff Daniels
10:13and I got to be in it.
10:15She's phenomenal
10:15and I knew it then
10:17and especially
10:18in Easy A
10:18forget it.
10:20I mean
10:21remarkably talented
10:22and it's not just
10:23the talent
10:23it's the person.
10:25Ego
10:25is felt
10:26really kept at bay
10:28you know
10:29thinking about
10:30other people
10:31and what's going on
10:32with them.
10:33So smart.
10:33Because he didn't want me
10:34to lose my job
10:35and he doesn't want
10:36to get in trouble either
10:36so he said
10:38it's you.
10:38I'm sorry.
10:39The scene
10:40where Mrs. Griffith
10:41unravels
10:42in front of Olive
10:43Emma Stone's character
10:45what I remember
10:46is that
10:47I could not
10:48shed tears
10:50and I was meant to.
10:52I'm having
10:53a nervous breakdown
10:54and crying
10:55and I was crying
10:57but no tears
10:58were coming out.
10:59It's as if
10:59there was no water
11:00in my body
11:01and it also
11:02I was going through
11:03this period
11:03it happened
11:04in Paper Man
11:05so I don't know
11:06what all that was about
11:07but it's embarrassing
11:08because Emma Stone
11:09I think is really good
11:10and got to see me
11:11not able to
11:14accomplish something.
11:15Yeah I still feel
11:16a little bad about that.
11:17Sorry Emma.
11:18Thanks so much
11:18for watching
11:19and be sure to check out
11:21The Comeback on HBO.
11:22The Comeback on HBO.
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