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00:00Hi, I'm Lynette Nylander.
00:02And I'm Leah Chernikoff.
00:03And this is Harper's Bazaars The Goodbye.
00:06Where we invite celebrities, designers, models,
00:09and taste makers to talk shop.
00:10What they buy, where they got it, and why it matters.
00:16How has your week in shopping been?
00:18I've been doing some beauty purchases, actually.
00:21I realize I still have some makeup around from my wedding.
00:24When did you get married?
00:25Been over a decade.
00:27Okay.
00:27Yeah, so 10-year-old makeup that populates your...
00:30Yeah, it's not like I'm using it, but it was there.
00:33And I realized I had no skin makeup, no just really basics.
00:39I got products from Say, you know that brand?
00:42I do know that brand, really beautiful.
00:44Yeah, really beautiful.
00:45They have this dewy thing that goes, it's like a primer,
00:48but it goes under everything, and I really like it.
00:50I need all the plumping I can get.
00:53And then there's this lip stain from Violette FR.
00:56Violette FR, yeah.
00:58She's great.
00:58Yeah, it's a really, really nice deep berry, and you can put it on easily,
01:03and it just kind of fades in a beautiful way.
01:06And my two-and-a-half-year-old hit it, so I need to get a new one.
01:11But yeah, and you?
01:14I just got back from Paris Fashion Week, and it was amazing to see all the collections up close,
01:20and I think it was a really amazing season.
01:24There were so many beautiful things.
01:25You know, a lot of the conversation in the office has been around all of the brands,
01:30and how they've really ignited the desire to go back and shop.
01:34You know, Chanel, obvious one that was incredible.
01:37Versace.
01:37Versace was from the one-and-done collection of Dario Vitale was amazing,
01:44and I'm so excited to see what happens next.
01:46But my goodbye brand of the week is Martine Rose, who is a friend, an inspiration,
01:57and I think one of the best designers working today.
02:02I just think that as I look to spring, her t-shirts, denim, the shoes, all of it is just
02:09so perfect.
02:10I love her. I love what the brand's about. It just reminds me of an elevated version of my London
02:17street,
02:18teenage, early 20s vibe. Yeah, Martine Rose, an eternal goodbye.
02:29On this week's episode of The Pod, we have a true polymathic talent.
02:33He is a comedian, a writer, a producer, an actor, and broke onto the scene as a social media sensation.
02:40He is a podcasting pro. I hope we can hold our own here. His hilarious show Ride with his bestie
02:47and fellow comic Mary Beth Barone will get you through the most hellish New York or LA commute.
02:53And his show Overcompensating, the college-set comedy loosely based on his own life,
02:58has just been renewed for a second season.
03:00To top it all off, he is a fashion guy. You'll have spotted him in the front row at Tom
03:05Ford,
03:06Mugler, Dior, and he loves a vintage fratty.
03:09Please welcome to the podcast, Benito Skinner.
03:13Yay!
03:13Oh, I'm so happy. It's so weird to be here because I listen to you both so much and you're
03:18my,
03:18you're my red light podcast. So I'll put a red light on and I listen to my girls.
03:24Oh my God.
03:25It's chills. So I feel like right now I'm in my safe, this is safe.
03:28Truly the biggest corporate.
03:30I know, best thing I've ever heard. Wow. How long do you red light for?
03:34So actually, um, a makeup artist I work with, Nikki DeRoost, she was like, um, well,
03:39if you really want to go for it, there's this thing called the Saluma. And I said,
03:43oh, I want to go for it. I grabbed it and I said, oh, I want to go. So it's,
03:47uh,
03:47it's kind of like, it wraps around me and I'm under there for about 30 minutes. And it's just like,
03:51yeah, we're a 30 minutes.
03:52It's peace. I want to get in my, when I die, I want it to be in the coffin with
03:55me.
03:56What is red light? What does it do for you?
03:58Someone told me a long time. It helps with healing.
04:01Yes.
04:01I am prone to like rosacea, dermatitis. We're going to talk about fashion. We're going to get to it.
04:07But you would never know. Look at that skin.
04:09Thank you so much.
04:09So beautiful.
04:10It's just, that is so sweet. I have full glam on. We're, we're kind of glamazons today.
04:15You know what I mean? This is the first time they're seeing me in a podcast with glam on.
04:20It feels really good. I like this.
04:22Well, talking about glam, let's start with what you're wearing today on the podcast,
04:26because I think it's really fitting to everything the goodbyes about.
04:30And I mean, that's Dario Vitali's Versace.
04:33This is Dario Versace. I, I tried it on.
04:36They knew they had a sucker in me when I walked in the New York store.
04:39That collection rocked my world in ways that I, I've already pre-ordered things.
04:44Like I have just, I was like, I'm not going to buy things for a while because of this collection.
04:48It's so good. It's so like, it's such a like rich world that like, I don't know,
04:53he just tapped into this like eighties kind of like homoerotic, sexy Miami pool boy.
05:00I'm just like, I'm just having fun.
05:01It's incredible.
05:02I know.
05:02It was so incredible.
05:04It brought all the best elements of Gianni's Versace with it,
05:08but felt new and fresh and unexplored.
05:11And I'd never seen anything like it.
05:13I did the thing where everyone was like, oh yeah, this is what we've been missing.
05:18Yeah.
05:18It's eighties, but wearable too.
05:20Like even, oh God, the women's stuff too.
05:22Like the bejeweled kind of like vests.
05:24And then that skirt that has like the prints of like sixties.
05:28The faces on it.
05:29I know.
05:30And the bra that with no back that Alex Consani wore down the runway.
05:33But I did, fun fact, I went into the store recently because again, we're sisters.
05:37Of course.
05:38And who was, who was holding court whilst her face was beamed onto the screen in the store.
05:44Alex Consani.
05:45Oh, incredible.
05:45Shopping away at the Versace store.
05:47You were there.
05:48I ran into her on that day.
05:49She's been there multiple times.
05:50Okay.
05:51Because I was like, wait, so we were all, this is wow.
05:54Did you go to the Versace store in Soho by any chance?
05:56They're great in there.
05:57Dolls.
05:57Can I, can I do PSA?
05:58The best.
05:59Heaven.
05:59We love.
05:59PSA for the essays.
06:01Yeah.
06:01PSA for the essays.
06:03Let's go.
06:03Darlings.
06:04Darlings in there.
06:04Darlings.
06:05And they know how to sell a garment to a stupid gay guy.
06:09Whoa.
06:10One born every minute.
06:11I literally.
06:13This is great.
06:13It takes us to our first question, which is your shopping philosophy.
06:16I think for me, it's like, stop thinking so much about what your personal style is.
06:20Yeah.
06:21And just like, do what feels right.
06:23Like if the top feels good to you, that's it.
06:25And your personal style will reveal itself.
06:27Yeah.
06:27And then I think, cause I used to get so caught up in like what that was or how I
06:32would describe
06:33it.
06:33I'm like, I think it's like Americana sporty, but like a gay boy in the eighties, who's like,
06:39dad works in finite.
06:40Like I had all these stories and then it's like, no, now I just, if I like the top, I
06:44buy it.
06:44Like I just try to, yeah, you don't have to try to force it so much and you definitely
06:50don't have to try to force certain trends to work for you.
06:53Like I can't do the ballet sneaker on me.
06:55It just looks weird.
06:56So let's talk about some times where you felt like you did that, that you like try to jam
07:01yourself into a trend.
07:02Yeah.
07:02There's a whole episode of overcompensating season two about me and skinny jeans because
07:07I, I was like, it's, I'm going to wear the rag and bone skinny jean in a one.
07:12I'm going to get the one.
07:14And they, I mean, it just painted on, it was shocking.
07:17And I, I had this pair, I saved up and I bought this pair of the APC petite standards.
07:22And so those are made for a French leg.
07:24Yeah.
07:25Um, not an Idaho leg.
07:27An American leg.
07:27An Idaho leg.
07:29An Idaho, an Idaho football leg.
07:31A sweet potato fed Idaho leg.
07:33It was, um, a shocking, shocking time.
07:36If those come back, I will never go near them again.
07:39I don't think I will either.
07:41But you see them.
07:43The thing is you see them around like, you know, the spray tight elastic ones that guys
07:47wear.
07:47No sock.
07:48Knock it off with a no sock.
07:50That just.
07:50No socks is so.
07:51It is.
07:52It's a little bit like.
07:52So it's the common project.
07:54No sock.
07:55And then the like Bonobos chino.
07:57That's so tight.
07:58And the wagon on some of these guys.
08:00Yeah.
08:01I'm like the chino wagons.
08:03Dragging the wagon.
08:04I'm like, whoa.
08:06I'm like, you're wearing that thing with a Patagonia vest to work.
08:08I know.
08:09Watch where you put that thing.
08:10Yeah.
08:11Crazy.
08:11Crazy.
08:12But let's talk about some style inspirations.
08:14Cause I know you have some, you are, you, you're into the fashions.
08:17You, you're watching, you're seeing.
08:19One of my first ones,
08:20I remember seeing photos of Robin Williams on red carpets.
08:23And I was like, oh, that's so fun.
08:25Like I saw the JPG like muscle shirt on him.
08:28Or he'd wear a lot of like Issey Miyake.
08:31And he would like the Oakley sunglasses.
08:33I just thought I was like, oh, he's having fun.
08:35So I feel like that was one of the first ones.
08:37I love that.
08:38We've never had Robin Williams as a starlight.
08:40I know.
08:41And I love that.
08:42And we should check out his style more.
08:44But it's so fitting that a comedian is someone that you found.
08:47And you found this shirt, right?
08:49Yeah.
08:49Oh, I have the shirt.
08:50Yeah.
08:51And Mary Beth got it for me after season one.
08:53That was like my rap gift.
08:54She knew that that was like my grail.
08:56Like we each have like a few of the things that were like, that's my one thing.
08:59And she found it for me and got it.
09:01And it just like, I don't know that shirt.
09:02It just, he, I think has been playful always.
09:05And I try to do that.
09:07Cause I think, you know, sometimes it's always this like conversation around like being taken
09:10seriously or if you want to like pivot in your career and all these things.
09:14And I think lately I'm just like, I don't know.
09:17I think I just want to do the thing that I want and wear the thing that I want.
09:20Like, why does everything need to be some kind of like serve?
09:23I love that because when you see, you know, you're really stepping out as a style star,
09:29all the brands are obsessed with you.
09:31You got to go to the Tom Ford show.
09:32I know.
09:33We were looking and like that suit looks so good on you.
09:37He is just kind of a genius beyond that show, what he's done.
09:43I mean, I feel like who else could have done Tom Ford and it still feel like both him and
09:47Tom, like the world is so tight, but that leopard collar, blue shirt tie that walked down.
09:53I was like, that's my season two premiere look.
09:55I have to have it.
09:56And you know what it reminds me of?
09:58And I think about this too much because I'm, I'm just so gay, um, sex in the city,
10:04the movie, you know, when it's a fashion show that makes her re dye her hair back.
10:08And like, she kind of gets out of her rut cause she goes to a fashion show.
10:11That's one of those ones where I was sitting there and like the beat was playing and I was like,
10:14fashion's alive, but I was like culture's back.
10:19You've come to the right place for.
10:21Oh, I know this is home.
10:22Not only just fashion shows do that.
10:27I just came back from Paris as well.
10:29We saw so many good things this season.
10:32Like it was, it's great when you see shows like that and you're affirmed that.
10:36Oh, okay.
10:36Like there are still great things happening.
10:38And it, and we've been talking about this idea of desire, which like clearly that Dario
10:42collection did for you for a lot of people.
10:44Yeah.
10:45Um, but also just so many great collections that are inspiring that feeling.
10:49Celine.
10:49My girls at Chanel.
10:50You know what?
10:50I love women lining up actually like brings me such joy.
10:54It's like, yes, we have dogged y'all so much.
10:58Like go get.
11:01Is it Metsu Blasey?
11:02Metsu.
11:03Metsu.
11:04I'm like, go get those fucking animal print flats, girl.
11:07You deserve it.
11:08Spend your whole paycheck on it.
11:09Like light it up.
11:10I saw people fighting on TikTok about which like Chanel bag they like didn't like and liked.
11:15I was just like, God, this is, we need this.
11:18Healing.
11:18The girls deserve this.
11:19The discourse is fun.
11:21I love it.
11:21I will stand 10 toes down on we have had a little bit of a drought.
11:26We've had a little bit of like in fashion feeling excited about things.
11:30Feeling like we wanted to go out.
11:32Not just online, but to those boutiques.
11:34Line up.
11:35Yeah.
11:35Talk about it with your friend.
11:36The group chats are live.
11:37Okay.
11:38Wait.
11:38Okay.
11:38I have this thing and tell me if you agree.
11:40I was thinking about this on the way here and I was like, I wonder if they'll agree with me.
11:43But if I'm looking on a rack and I'm going this way and you come in front.
11:48Oh.
11:49Jail.
11:49Etiquette.
11:50I just find that to be, so it's like I own the rack until I'm done looking at it.
11:53Yeah.
11:53This is, this is, that could be my top.
11:57Right.
11:57And it's like jumping the cab.
11:58It's just crazy.
11:59And now I'm going at their pace.
12:01It's just feels, okay.
12:02A hundred percent.
12:02It's like if you jumped over someone, if you were in like a food buffet line.
12:07It's like, wait, I need to see.
12:09I need to survey.
12:10Is this my chicken?
12:11Is this my broccoli?
12:12Is this my rice?
12:12Yeah.
12:12You can't just come here.
12:14Can I have time with my kids?
12:15And yeah.
12:16That's nice.
12:16Can I see my kids right now?
12:17Yeah.
12:17And not that I am a believer in waiting outside of a boutique.
12:22I hate that.
12:23You know how this whole like, we'll let you in.
12:25Oh, post COVID.
12:26That, this thing, I'm like, I don't, and also I don't need one person working to start with me.
12:31I don't need a babysitter.
12:32Let me just roam.
12:33Yeah.
12:33Let me just roam.
12:34Although I do feel like all bets are off at a sample sale.
12:36That's when I realize, I remind myself we're animals at a sample sale and it's okay.
12:41Are you still a sample sale goer?
12:42Oh, yeah.
12:43I love it.
12:43At this level of fame.
12:44Oh, stop.
12:45Don't even start.
12:46Are you kidding?
12:46Of course.
12:47The outlets at Cabazon Outlets in Palm Springs.
12:50Okay.
12:51My friends, sometimes it's like if I meet someone and we haven't been close enough for too long,
12:55I don't let them see me shop for a while because it's been described as athletic, aggressive.
13:01Some people say it's like a completely different person.
13:04Like I have an alter ego.
13:05Wow.
13:05Okay.
13:05What happens?
13:06Describe.
13:07I just am like so fast and I know so fast and I'm ready to go.
13:11And I'm like, I just will go done.
13:13No.
13:14And then I'll know.
13:15I just love researching the collections.
13:17I love.
13:17So I sometimes will know too much.
13:20And then you know it if you see it.
13:22Exactly.
13:23Yeah.
13:23I mean, when I walk into a store, I can shop with my eyes.
13:26You know how Tyra coined the term smize?
13:29I can shize.
13:30I can shop with my eyes.
13:31You can feel it.
13:32Right.
13:32The second you walk in the store and I'm like, I feel bad that I'm like a people pleaser.
13:36So I'll still be like, yeah, I'm just looking.
13:38And it's like, I know this is.
13:39Yeah, no, there's nothing for me here.
13:40You haven't put the new stuff out.
13:40Yeah.
13:41Yeah.
13:42All right.
13:42Well, we're talking about shopping from a very privileged position, but I want to take you all the way back
13:47to your first buy. What was the first buy that made you feel like, okay, this is something I really
13:52wanted
13:52and I saved up for it or I got it or something when you were a teenager that you wanted?
13:56Oh my God.
13:56My brother and his now wife had gotten me a Tom Brown shirt when I was in high school.
14:03And that like, he had like, you know, he had a job in finance and like, I don't know, it
14:07just like,
14:07he knew how much I loved it and obviously it was so expensive.
14:10And I still have the shirt.
14:11Like I would never part with it.
14:13I love that shirt.
14:14It still fits.
14:15No, it's like completely busting every time I wear it.
14:19It's my, um, I call it my gay assistant audition shirt because I probably audition for 50 gay
14:25assistants a month in TV and film.
14:27So I'm like, that's my kind of like, oh, I mean, I'll do it forever.
14:31I really think that like on my, on my deathbed, I'll still be able to be like, you have a
14:35call at
14:35four, fuck him.
14:36You know, like I'll just, I'll lock right back in.
14:38What is your regret by?
14:41I know you have some.
14:42God, I have so many.
14:43It's so bad.
14:44It's one of those Raf Simmons jean shirts that were like massive.
14:49And to me, I was like, oh, I'm going to rock the fuck out of it.
14:52And it just kind of never clicked.
14:54Okay.
14:55But I, if it's Raf, I buy it.
14:57Like I, since I was like 12, Raf Simmons is like, I've, I think I've seen Dior in me
15:03probably like 10 times.
15:04I just think like he is, I'm obsessed.
15:07Yeah.
15:08Yeah.
15:08So that shirt had to come home with me, but it should never be on me, I'd say.
15:12And that's amazing.
15:13I think Raf Simmons is like, he's God tier archive everything you bought.
15:18I mean, especially now he doesn't, he doesn't do his own line anymore.
15:20And it's like, great.
15:21I forgot to mention it's bubblegum pink as well.
15:24Like it is fully, yeah.
15:26Good detail.
15:26I think I wore it once.
15:27I wore it to, um, you know, I've lived many lives.
15:30I wore it to a makeup event meet and greet at Hudson Yards.
15:35I have to disclose.
15:36We've met before because I used to work at Glossier.
15:39I know.
15:40You know.
15:41Yes.
15:42We were obsessed.
15:43You used to do that thing where you covered your face in.
15:45Oh, this is so crazy.
15:46I did, I, yeah, I covered my whole face in Vaseline.
15:49That's right.
15:50I was sobbing in the shower and my friends were trying to get it out because.
15:52I was wondering what, how, what happened after.
15:55It was like dish soap was the only thing that got it out.
15:57But I don't know.
15:58I had taken Accutane.
15:59So honestly, at that time, my face was like, you can put whatever you want.
16:02Like I could bathe in like hot oil and it'd be like, thank you.
16:05Those clips are coming back to me as of today.
16:08Of me doing, wait, didn't I come in and I talked about Superdue?
16:11Yeah.
16:11I totally remember that so vividly.
16:13I think I know what I'm wearing.
16:15Really?
16:15I think I could tell you.
16:16I don't know what you're wearing.
16:17I think I'm wearing a Supreme Western jacket.
16:19Oh, nice.
16:20And I love that jacket because Virgil had it and I had to buy it.
16:23I miss him every day.
16:24I loved Virgil.
16:25Yeah.
16:25That was like one of my favorite designers.
16:27Yeah.
16:28I just thought he was so brilliant.
16:29But you know Skinner.
16:30What is your repeat buy?
16:33Oh.
16:34Other than Dario's Versace, which.
16:36God, I have to stop.
16:37Is a very expensive repeat buy.
16:39It's.
16:39Do you have to stop?
16:40Because again, one and done.
16:41You've got to collect.
16:42I think there's one more.
16:44Okay, what is it?
16:44The fact that I know this, there's a.
16:46The.
16:47It's like a.
16:48There's like a vacation.
16:49Oh, my God.
16:50Oh, my God.
16:52Because they tell you in the school.
16:53I may have gotten a look book and I did.
16:56They're like, don't worry.
16:56There's a little more.
16:58There's a little bit more juice to squeeze.
17:00There is one thing.
17:01They're doing like an ASIC loafer where it's like the stripes of the ASIC.
17:05And this is a collab that I'm like, I'm obsessed with.
17:07Yeah.
17:07Because it's like being a little sporty and kind of gay.
17:09And I love when it's just like we're having fun with it.
17:11And that's kind of my repeat buyer like loafers.
17:14And then also the ERL like big puffy sneakers.
17:18Oh, yeah.
17:18I can't visualize this to save my life.
17:20They almost have like a very like Zoomies 2010 vibe.
17:25Like Mall of America.
17:27But they're like, but make it fashion.
17:28I mean, Eli is like one of my favorite designers.
17:30It's like these kind of furry shoes.
17:32And sometimes I put them on and I feel like I'm a Bratz boyfriend.
17:35Remember those guys?
17:36Like my name is Dylan.
17:38But I just, I love them.
17:39I wear them on set.
17:40I like and I'm kind of everyone on set is like,
17:43oh, Benny's got his hair and old shoes on.
17:44And I just love them.
17:46They look like I'm like, I have just ankles and I'm popping them in.
17:49And you know, it's like I'm a full doll.
17:51And just the tube little legs.
17:52Yeah.
17:52And I just go boom.
17:53And I put in my pillowcases.
17:54And just like a clip on a little hat.
17:56Yeah.
17:57Love.
17:57And flannels, ERL flannels.
17:59I always buy like six of season is bad.
18:02How did you meet Eli?
18:03We met because I, I had seen his stuff at Dover.
18:07And then I followed him and kept like DMing.
18:09And I was just like, I just love you.
18:09Like, I think this is so, I think you're amazing.
18:12And then he did before, you know, all of the not great stuff.
18:17But he did a lot of Kanye's videos that I thought weren't, I mean,
18:19the Tiana Taylor fade videos.
18:22I mean, fade videos.
18:22Yeah.
18:22That's like, one of the best videos, music videos of all time.
18:25Truly like shook me to my core.
18:27So I was just like, I'm obsessed with him.
18:29And then he's more and more of his designs came out.
18:32And then it was this very beautiful kind of thing where he like always supported me.
18:37And you know, it's like, as you're coming up, people really won't dress you or send or like,
18:42even if you're working with a stylist, they're kind of like, well, the budget is us buying the outfit,
18:45babe, like we don't.
18:46And so he would always send.
18:48And then it was so sweet for my, for the premiere of Overcompensating.
18:53He made me a full custom look, which was really sweet.
18:56Can we talk about it a little?
18:57Because it was really extraordinary.
18:59It was insane.
19:00It, we, so I've been working with Jake Samus since I did a shoot with, you can believe the name,
19:05Vanity Fair.
19:06I just did this shoot and it was, um, it was with Luke Guilford and it was, uh,
19:11it was like a shirtless football thing.
19:13And they put me in these like YSL pants and, and like Bodie Nikes.
19:17And I met Jake Samus there and I was just like obsessed with him.
19:20And he had done like some, you know, personal styling for people, but I just loved it.
19:25He had like a full story of what he wanted to tell.
19:28And I said, like, I'm about to start doing press and like, I think I'm wearing around
19:32like 90 things.
19:34Like I would love your help.
19:35Like I love shopping, but I also have to like promote a show.
19:38So is, would you want to like do this with me?
19:40And he was like, yes, girl.
19:42So we like immediately locked in and became like best friends.
19:46And then when we were thinking about the premiere, I was just like, it has to be ERL.
19:50And he was like, totally.
19:51And we had started doing polka dots and we had seen a few people do polka dots.
19:57We were like, okay, we want something different.
19:59And then I came to Eli and one day he just goes like, I'm seeing like JFK Jr.
20:04for it.
20:05What if we like screen printed his face or his body as your body and then did like a pant.
20:10And I was like, totally.
20:12How do we also do a tie?
20:13And then he was like, wait, no, let's go JFK.
20:17And then Jake found this, this reference of JFK.
20:20And then we worked together with Eli.
20:21And then they just had this silhouette that I think is so, it's like these kind of billowing
20:26pleated pants that are this like delicious, like silky.
20:29I don't even know how to describe, I have no idea what the fabric is.
20:33And this kind of like, yeah, cotton silk top.
20:37And I went to their offices in Venice and they like presented it to me and it was insane.
20:41They had like hand painted the back of a vintage leather jacket.
20:46It was like, yeah, I'd like cried on the way home.
20:48It was just like, it was the exactly what I wanted to wear.
20:50And I felt so good at it.
20:52And it really confused people why JFK was on the tie.
20:55But I'm like, it just felt so, he was my senior quote in high school.
20:59And to me, it just felt so funny and like overly serious, like a college student would be.
21:04And kind of like a, I think a nod to what we were doing, which is like,
21:07it just felt so funny to wear JFK.
21:09And my show is about like me being gay and in the closet.
21:13Like, it just, I don't know, it just felt kind of dumb.
21:15You were overcompensating.
21:17Yeah, of being like, I'm a student.
21:18You know, it just felt so.
21:20You probably needed to feel like your absolute best.
21:23This is like your show.
21:24It's your life.
21:25You pour yourself into it.
21:26And at the premiere, you just want to feel the best you possibly can.
21:29And fashion lets you do that, right?
21:32Yeah.
21:32And then it's like, also, I love meaning.
21:34I'll assign meaning to anything.
21:36We're doing costumes right now for season two.
21:38And it's like, just little things that I think are so,
21:41like Eli being someone that had always supported me
21:43and then doing that for that day.
21:45And it feeling kind of like a friend and like family had done it.
21:48Yeah.
21:48I like love that.
21:49Yeah.
21:50Oh my God.
21:50There's one shirt, I think if I ever found it in a store,
21:53I would just be like, all right, I have to get it.
21:55But I loved this one talking about Virgil.
21:57And then also A$AP Rocky was, I mean, I'm like,
22:00I still think he is best dressed forever.
22:03He is.
22:03He is the best dressed man in the life.
22:05And we have to just stop.
22:07It's him.
22:07Right.
22:07Knock it off.
22:09You know what?
22:10Jacob's fabulous.
22:12Like, I haven't seen one look I didn't love,
22:13but just no one touches Pretty Flacco.
22:16No.
22:16And we have to just, there's a period on it and we have to.
22:19And he wore the ERL thing after,
22:21he wore the JFK, like a red version of the tie.
22:24I screamed for day.
22:26I was like, oh my God.
22:27Like we've worn similar things.
22:29Yeah.
22:29But I was just like, this is, I sent it to Jake.
22:31I was like, this is as good.
22:32You've basically been sharing clothes.
22:33Some would say, yeah, we have a shared closet, shared archive.
22:35That's right.
22:35Um, Rihanna knows luck.
22:37Um, but there's a, uh, it's called the impossible true love shirt from Prada.
22:44Yeah.
22:45And it has like Marlon Brando and I think Cleopatra on it.
22:48And it's, isn't it the Elizabeth Taylor still of her as Cleopatra,
22:52but it's like painted or re-imagined or somewhere and it's like divine.
22:56It was so that era too.
22:57It's so that era when Prada was so Moorish and Instagrammable and it was just divine.
23:03And you're saying that Rocky, who else has it?
23:06Oh, ASAP Rocky wore it.
23:07I, I know Virgil wore it.
23:09Yeah.
23:10Um, who else?
23:11Like, it was just kind of the shirt and-
23:14And you can't find that.
23:15I feel like I, I feel like I can find that.
23:17Are you going to find it?
23:18I found it once and it was like 10 grand.
23:19Yeah.
23:20And I was like, okay, I, you know, get me drunk and all.
23:23Yeah.
23:23I was going to say, Gabe, your, your Dario Versace all sums up to the same amount.
23:29No, we really don't.
23:30I'm like, oh.
23:31I'm not the person to find it, but I do know who the person is to find it.
23:34And that's Alexander Fury, the famed archivist, editor,
23:38um, but has the most incredible collection of everything, Galeano,
23:42but also of Prada and always knows how to get it.
23:45It won't be purse friendly, but he will be able to find it.
23:49But that shirt exists somewhere.
23:51It is.
23:51And it's just, I don't know.
23:52It would like, I like have to,
23:54it's one of those things that I have to like earn in some way.
23:57Season two premiere?
23:57Yeah.
23:58Maybe something like that.
23:58It's like, I was thinking that of like, oh, maybe this is something, you know,
24:02cause it also feels like the era of the show in a way, you know,
24:06we kind of play with obviously that it's like about 10 years ago when we take place.
24:09So yeah.
24:10But I remember trying the shirt on with my brother in the store and being like, wow.
24:14Someday.
24:15If I could, I would.
24:17Well, I think that's really important to have things that you're striving for.
24:22Yeah.
24:22You know?
24:22Yeah.
24:23You have to always be wanting something.
24:26It's the era of yearning.
24:28What is it right now?
24:28It's, no, it is yearn fest.
24:29And season two is all yearn.
24:31I can't wait.
24:32That's all I do.
24:32That's all we're doing.
24:33Do I have a yearning?
24:35Do you have a yearn?
24:36I must do.
24:36Did you get anything from you Chanel?
24:39Wait, this is very funny.
24:41Hold hands.
24:42Okay.
24:43I'm going to translate why.
24:44Okay.
24:45Every editor in Paris, like they all swarmed the stores.
24:48Yes.
24:48Lynette was among them.
24:50Everybody is just like, that's my shoe.
24:51No, that's my shoe.
24:52Everyone's fighting for them and one editor pulls out her camera and starts filming everyone
24:58just being like, what are you getting?
24:59What are you getting?
24:59And Lynette is like, this is the Hunger Games of fashion.
25:02We're all here.
25:02And that clip went really viral.
25:04And now Lynette is like the girl from the Chanel store and she's feeling a type of way about it.
25:10I am a little.
25:10Talking about the Hunger Games?
25:11But yes, because I was the cold.
25:15And I love the reference, by the way.
25:16I was the cold open, which was like, I think that placed me.
25:19Lead role.
25:20Yeah, I was lead.
25:20That's right.
25:21You're the lead.
25:22Let's reframe this.
25:23Yeah.
25:23Yes, I was the lead.
25:25But yeah, it really framed me as I was like, as if I was this frothing at the mouth.
25:30I'll show you.
25:31It doesn't.
25:32Wear the credit card.
25:34It's Hunger Games of fashion.
25:35It doesn't at all.
25:36You were calm.
25:37You were like, I like these shoes.
25:39Yeah.
25:39I feel like, anyway.
25:41Let's see what we can get.
25:42But yes, I did christen the moment.
25:44I bust the moment with a few purchases.
25:46Is that wrong?
25:47Like, who is that?
25:47Heidi, if we can't boost the economy, like, what is there to do?
25:51Like, we have to boost.
25:52We have to go.
25:53And can I just say, that's what I say.
25:55I want my girls just to smile.
25:56It's like when all the girls were eating crumble cookies in their car.
25:59I'm like, let them.
26:01Let them.
26:01I'm like, this is so beautiful.
26:03Like, I just.
26:04I know.
26:04Let my girls go to Chanel and go freaking buck.
26:07What'd you buy?
26:08Tell me.
26:09Oh, God, I feel exposed.
26:11Okay.
26:12I'll tell you everything I got at Versace if you do this.
26:14Yes.
26:14I bought the teal green croc shoes.
26:18With the black.
26:18Yes.
26:19Because I really looked and I really wanted to be logical.
26:23And I was like, I don't have anything like that.
26:25That's.
26:25That's fresh.
26:26I, my least favorite thing sometimes when people do in something like that,
26:30is they're like, I got something I can do every day.
26:32And I'm like, I don't think that's the collection you should do that in.
26:35No.
26:35Get that later when he's warmed up.
26:36Exactly.
26:37This is the first one.
26:37It's going to be there.
26:38You're correct.
26:39I would have done that other thing though.
26:42Because that's the kind of shopper I am.
26:43It's very practical.
26:45I think about things for a long time before I buy them.
26:47But you are both correct.
26:49Yeah.
26:50You have to.
26:50I can see that.
26:51Chanel you can be campy.
26:53And I bought a bag.
26:54We're moving on.
26:54What bag?
26:56We'll block it.
26:57It's in there.
26:58It's out.
26:58You have to tell me.
26:59It's a beautiful tote, like black croc what bag.
27:02And it's forever.
27:03And I really consult it.
27:04I consult everyone on the phone.
27:06What color?
27:07Black.
27:08The black one.
27:08I didn't buy the two one.
27:09I almost did.
27:10Shoe is where you can really play.
27:12Yes.
27:12Because a bag is like just the price you have to.
27:15Everything.
27:16With everything.
27:16Yeah.
27:17Okay.
27:17Versace.
27:18Let's go.
27:18This.
27:19I got the.
27:19We shot the next ride cover, which is pretty disgusting.
27:24And it's.
27:24I got one of the t-shirts that's just red.
27:26Yeah.
27:27With the thing.
27:27Because they.
27:27I put it on.
27:29And the darlings they're working.
27:30The girls went nuts.
27:31And I was like.
27:32I know they're doing this to everyone.
27:33But like this meant the world.
27:34No.
27:35This meant the world to me.
27:37You are made for this collection though.
27:39Thank you so much.
27:39We can all.
27:40We can all acknowledge.
27:41The history's in me.
27:43You know.
27:43It's like I love.
27:44I love South Beach.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Like let's be real.
27:47That's right.
27:47So I love that.
27:48And then I got.
27:50The A6.
27:51Those.
27:51And then I got a.
27:53A navy shirt.
27:54Like striped shirt.
27:55With the brown tie.
27:56That's kind of like 80 Z.
27:58Like this print on it.
28:00Yeah.
28:00And then.
28:01I got a surprise from Mary Beth that I can't say.
28:03For her special.
28:04Oh.
28:05That's so nice.
28:05Because I just saw it and I was like.
28:06I just am so proud of.
28:07It's just crazy.
28:08I don't know.
28:09I feel like there's such a nice.
28:10You guys have such a beautiful relationship.
28:12Yeah.
28:13We've got to get her on the podcast.
28:14Let's get her on the podcast next.
28:15My publicist.
28:16Everyone is always like.
28:18Benny tried to get through an interview without talking about the OC and Mary Beth.
28:22But I never can.
28:23Wait.
28:23Why haven't we talked about the OC?
28:25So this is funny because.
28:27We had to.
28:28There is a piece from it that I am actively looking for every day.
28:33To get for Mary Beth.
28:34Because we've talked about it so much.
28:35But it's this Missoni dress that Misha Barton wears in season one on a yacht.
28:39Yes.
28:39And there's lore behind it because Misha was allowed to keep it.
28:42And she went out that night.
28:43Or like went out to an event in that dress.
28:46And I keep trying to find it and I can't find it.
28:48We could find that.
28:49I love it.
28:49It's so good.
28:50A Missoni from what?
28:52It would be like a 2004 or something?
28:54Exactly.
28:54It would have been like 2004.
28:55And it was just like this little kind of purple.
28:57Oh.
28:58Yeah.
28:59We got to find that.
28:59We're going to find it.
29:00It's such.
29:00And her Chanel prom dress.
29:02That I don't think you can find anywhere.
29:04I think that's just.
29:04There was one of one.
29:05One of one.
29:06Talk about Misha Barton.
29:07She was a good.
29:07She looked good in Chanel.
29:08She was a great Chanel girl.
29:11She was perfect.
29:11She was perfect.
29:13I mean you got.
29:14I'm just realizing you were at the Chanel show where they played Just Dance and Olivia
29:17Dean was there.
29:18And I was next to a great friend of mine, Jose.
29:21Oh come on.
29:22Jose from Vanity Fair.
29:23We.
29:25When you heard it.
29:26Oh.
29:27We just went.
29:28No it's just.
29:29We both next to each other.
29:30And we were like.
29:31And I went.
29:31That's high camp.
29:33No it is.
29:33It's just like Just Dance.
29:35Like who.
29:36That's amazing.
29:36Who isn't just reminded of the good times.
29:39I know.
29:39I know.
29:40That's what I mean.
29:40It's like get the joy.
29:41Like having fun and it being not so like.
29:44I don't know.
29:45It's nice also that those things not just hear like bono.
29:48Yeah.
29:48Like you know.
29:48Some like weird thing.
29:49Yeah.
29:49Where you're like.
29:50Okay.
29:50I do think I'm dissociating a little bit.
29:52But the clothes are gorgeous.
29:53And it was great.
29:54I was in a really amazing vantage point where I saw Olivia Dean.
29:57I saw Jenny.
29:58I saw.
29:59Lily and the leopard.
30:00Lily Rose Depp.
30:01And I saw Oprah.
30:02Can see them all dancing.
30:03And they were all dancing.
30:04Yeah.
30:04They were all like.
30:05Gracie was there too.
30:06Gracie.
30:07It's kind of just that's.
30:08Yeah.
30:09That's great.
30:10Wow.
30:11We need asking our final question.
30:13I know.
30:14Why does it have to end?
30:15This shouldn't end.
30:16I could talk to you both forever.
30:18What's your latest goodbye?
30:20My latest goodbye.
30:23Um.
30:23And we have to say no Versace.
30:25No more Versace.
30:26I need to find one other piece.
30:29Let me think.
30:30Let me think.
30:30I actually.
30:31I kind of just had a little haul that I did at the Society Archive in New York.
30:35I love these boys.
30:36Marcus.
30:38And I just went and got a bunch of like vintage pieces.
30:41Like some old Armani.
30:43Like I love like vintage Armani.
30:45Like it was a flannel and some old Abercrombie.
30:47I was ultimately a greeter.
30:49So I'm embracing my life.
30:51Wow.
30:52You were a greeter at Abercrombie?
30:53I was.
30:53Sex work is work.
30:55Yes.
30:55I was a greeter.
30:56I was a greeter for one day.
30:57What did they make you say?
30:58Wasn't there a script?
30:59We're coming into the store.
31:01Oh.
31:01I didn't have to say a thing.
31:02I was out front.
31:03Cause he was the whole.
31:03He was the whole friend.
31:04No and you had to be dripping in that scent.
31:07Yes.
31:07Which I.
31:08I like the smell.
31:09Like I just.
31:10This is my thing.
31:11I think the smell is kind of nice.
31:12It's like a musk.
31:14Okay.
31:14But if you smelled it in a way that's not as overpowering as it is in store.
31:19It is a really nice kind of cedar musk smell.
31:22With a little B.O.
31:24Fabulous.
31:25But I would be up front.
31:26Oil you.
31:27Obviously.
31:28Shaved.
31:28Full dolphin.
31:30Full dolphin.
31:30Um.
31:31Spiky hair.
31:31But it was one day.
31:32And then I was like please can I work in store.
31:34Like I.
31:35I did see people I knew today.
31:37And like I just can't live like this.
31:38Then they never put me on the.
31:40Was this in D.C.?
31:41Yeah.
31:42I did one day.
31:42I'm from D.C.
31:43No way.
31:44You would see me on Wisconsin.
31:45Yes.
31:45During Christmas also nipples hard as rocks.
31:47Incredible.
31:48Wisconsin.
31:48M Street.
31:49Yeah.
31:49And my roommate.
31:50I know the nexus.
31:50Had to take the photos of me.
31:51Hi Lucas.
31:52I was like you have to.
31:54And then they told me at the time.
31:55They're like great.
31:57Chest should be pumped though.
31:58Do some push-ups.
31:59So I had to do that.
32:00Can you believe we lived through this time?
32:02Like Abercrombie.
32:03We were also just.
32:04Let me say $11.50.
32:06You know it's like I needed like 20 bucks.
32:08Right.
32:08At college.
32:09Oh my god.
32:09Yeah.
32:09Yeah.
32:10And we were just like that was just the way it was.
32:12Yeah.
32:13Yeah.
32:13Glad we've moved on.
32:14Yeah.
32:14But I mean.
32:15I got.
32:15And but the quality of the like early 90s or like 80s Abercrombie was so.
32:21It's good.
32:21Yeah.
32:22And the silhouettes and stuff.
32:23Mm-hmm.
32:23Aside from everything else that's so diabolical.
32:27But that I'm like so I got I got kind of a cheeky cheeky piece.
32:31Benito this is you're such a joy and you're so the embodiment of the podcast.
32:37Because you love shopping and you believe that fashion should be about fun and bringing you
32:43joy.
32:44And bringing you joy.
32:45And we can't wait to see all the things you're going to do.
32:47And we can't wait for season two.
32:48And you deserve all the flowers and all the success.
32:51So thank you for being here.
32:53Yes.
32:54This was Harper's Bazaars the goodbye.
32:56Goodbye.
32:56Goodbye.
32:57Let's go to Versace.
32:58Goodbye.
32:58Let's go to Versace.
32:59There's a couple more pieces.
33:02Goodbye.
33:02Mwah.
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