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00:159-1-1
00:17Yeah, uh, this is North State Road 135, my husband's in our bedroom floor, he's non-responsive
00:25and I need to name him for your lease
00:26Marsha Allen called 9-1-1
00:35She appears to be crying on the call
00:39She appears to start getting a little panicked
00:49First responders get there, what did they find?
00:52They found Harold Allen unresponsive
00:56He was dead
00:56Yes
01:04Harold and Marsha Allen had only been married for a year, year and a half when this happened
01:10Harold had had some health problems, so it wasn't initially a huge surprise that he would have died
01:16And what was the cause of death determined to be at that time?
01:26About six months after Harold's death, Marsha wrote a self-help book about grief and losing someone that you loved
01:38About Harold, she says, he was my world. The grief I was experiencing after my husband passed away was unbearable
01:47and still is
01:49Well, this is just a grieving woman missing her husband
02:00A burglary call come over the radio
02:03Our detectives were going to Marsha's house
02:08We started investigating the burglary and in the process we're told there's a murder involved here
02:15This one is a murder
02:19Okay, I know that I have not gone to nobody and studied anything because I don't have no proof on
02:23it
02:24Steven Light told me that Marsha Allen had killed her husband Harold by poisoning a root beer float
02:33Marsha went into the kitchen and made a root beer float with whipped cream and sprinkles on top of it
02:40And just poured something out of a bottle into there
02:42Poison is unique. I think you see it in movies because it makes a good show
02:47But it's not normally how homicide or death is carried out
02:51The toxicology report came back
02:53Ethylene glycol was in Harold's system
02:57It's the main component in antifreeze
03:00If you're consuming ethylene glycol
03:03You're not going to know
03:03You're not going to smell it
03:04You're not going to taste it
03:05If you put it in a root beer float with ice cream and root beer
03:09You're not going to know until it's too late
03:12I think if the burglary wouldn't have happened
03:15There would be no way that we would know about it at all
03:43You're not going to know
04:06Right now we're probably about a half mile north of where Marsha Allen and Harold Allen lived.
04:13When Harold Allen died suddenly in his home in Freetown, Indiana, just a few days before Christmas 2022.
04:21The driveway going up to the Allen residence would have been right there.
04:26Lieutenant Adam Nicholson, an investigator with the Jackson County Sheriff's Department, says no one suspected anything out of the ordinary.
04:3520 years on the job, I never thought I would see a case like this.
04:40Harold's younger brother, Matthew, and his wife, Samantha, knew he had been dealing with some serious health issues.
04:46He was bigger. He was diabetic.
04:50Including painful gastrointestinal problems, which had sent him to the emergency room on multiple occasions late that year.
04:58I think one time they thought it was, what was it like?
05:03Diverticulitis, they said.
05:04Yeah, diverticulitis.
05:06Diverticulitis.
05:07On Thanksgiving 2022, as the family was enjoying their holiday feast, Matthew noticed that Harold all of a sudden looked
05:16distressed.
05:17We were eating dessert and he looked up at me like his eyes got wide, like he was kind of
05:25scared.
05:25And I was like, what's wrong?
05:27He goes, the left side of my face just went numb.
05:30I said, I'm either calling an ambulance or I'm taking you to the hospital right now.
05:34And he's like, well, just give me a second.
05:37Despite the family's urging to get medical help, Harold refused.
05:42Marsha was just, like, standing there.
05:45And I was like, well, he needs to go to the hospital.
05:47And she was like, I've been telling him that he needs to get there.
05:51Harold's mystifying health condition worsened in the weeks leading up to Christmas.
05:56Doctors struggled to diagnose exactly what was ailing him.
06:00Then came December 20, 2022, when Marsha made a disturbing discovery and placed that 911 call.
06:09I worked from home.
06:10I went back there to check on him because he's been sick.
06:13He was just laying the floor like he was trying to get up and go to the bathroom or something.
06:17And he's not breathing.
06:2252-year-old Harold, the oldest of three brothers, had spent his life in this quiet, rural part of southern
06:29Indiana,
06:29where everyone knew this imposing man as Peanut.
06:34I thought his name was Peanut until I was about six or seven years old.
06:37That's a true story.
06:40My brother was born premature.
06:43And my grandma said he's no bigger than a peanut.
06:47I had a close family, but it was nothing like the Allens.
06:54When they were together, all the pieces of the puzzle were there.
07:02He self-taught himself, like, the guitar and mandolin, and he played harmonicas.
07:06You really looked up to your brother, right?
07:09Oh, yeah.
07:10Like, he became a controls engineer.
07:12Super smart.
07:14I wish I was as smart as him.
07:16Jackson County Sheriff's Department Detective Clint Burcham says Harold worked for a global automotive supply company.
07:23A local factory in Seymour, Indiana, ice and manufacturing.
07:27He liked riding his motorcycles.
07:30He had a Harley motorcycle that he rode for years.
07:34He went deer hunting and fishing.
07:37We did fish a lot.
07:39Enjoying a full life, Harold became nostalgic about his high school days.
07:44In 2019, he decided to attend his 30th reunion.
07:48The Austin, Indiana high school reunion.
07:51It was there that the twice-divorced Harold spotted former classmate Marsha Buxton.
07:57They didn't even really speak in high school, but at this reunion is when they started a conversation and just
08:04blossomed from there.
08:06Divorced herself with an adult daughter, Marsha and Harold began dating.
08:11About two years later, the couple married in July of 2021.
08:18What kind of life did they lead together as a married couple?
08:22They liked to travel.
08:23They liked the Gatlinburg, Tennessee, Pigeon Forge area, Branson, Missouri.
08:30The following year, Marsha's daughter, Ashley Jones, and her five-year-old daughter moved in with Harold and Marsha.
08:38Samantha says Harold, who had no children of his own, welcomed them with open arms.
08:44Peanut always wanted children.
08:47He always wanted a family.
08:49And he enjoyed being called Grandpa.
08:53Ashley was a young widow.
08:55Her 33-year-old husband, Ty Jones, had died suddenly three years earlier.
09:00What were the circumstances of his death?
09:03Ty Jones died of some heart complications, is what the autopsy said.
09:09Describe the relationship between Ashley and her mother, Marsha.
09:13Were they close?
09:14They were very close.
09:15Every day, Marsha Allen would send Ashley Jones a message saying,
09:19good morning, baby girl, every single morning.
09:22The house was now full with three generations,
09:25and Harold seemed to enjoy his instant extended family.
09:29He cared about what everybody else was feeling and just wanted everyone to be happy.
09:41At the time, Harold's autopsy concluded his death was caused by multiple serious cardiac issues,
09:48including pericarditis and inflammation of the sac around the heart.
09:53Practically still a newlywed, Marsha was now a widow.
10:02After Harold Allen died, his wife, Marsha Allen, publishes a book.
10:08Self-published, it was intended to be a guide for others going through what she was.
10:14She says that this is an intimate glimpse of what I went through when my husband died.
10:19She writes about survivor's guilt, that she was suffering with that.
10:24She says that her book is a beacon of hope, finding the strength and courage to move forward
10:29and learning a new way to live.
10:31How to grieve a loss of a significant other.
10:36Marsha would soon face another challenge.
10:39Nine months after Harold's death, Lieutenant Nicholson was monitoring a call
10:44where investigators were dispatched to that break-in at Marsha's.
10:48The case, to me, started like any other case.
10:51A burglary call come over the radio.
10:53Our detectives were going to Marsha's house.
10:59Security cameras had captured two men breaking into her home.
11:03We start investigating the burglary.
11:06In the process, we're told, you know, well, there's a murder involved here.
11:26In September of 2023, Marsha Allen was vacationing in Gatlinburg, Tennessee,
11:32known for its beautiful fall colors and hiking trails.
11:37Little did she know that about 350 miles away, two burglars were exploring the inside of her home.
11:45The burglary happened, I want to say, like at 4.30 in the morning.
11:50She had recently put a home security system in her house.
11:54The app for the system notified Marsha that there'd been movement on her home's cameras while she slept.
12:01When she reviewed the video, she could see two men opening her home safe
12:06and rifling through her bedroom and jewelry.
12:11She could watch them go through the house.
12:13There was a lot of stuff taken, pretty major burglary.
12:17One of the burglars caught Marsha's eye.
12:20Incredibly, he was someone she recognized.
12:23His name was Stephen White.
12:25Yo.
12:26Hey.
12:28Marsha immediately called local police in Indiana to report the break-in.
12:34Marsha Allen described Stephen White as her daughter Ashley Jones' best friend.
12:39Really close friend.
12:40Why would her own daughter's best friend burglarize Marsha's home?
12:45Ashley had moved to Missouri in the months following Harold's death,
12:49so Marsha had been living alone.
12:52Reviewing the images, investigators noticed the burglars had come prepared.
12:57It seemed like they knew right where to go,
13:00and the other thing was is that they knew the code to the safe.
13:04Within hours, police found Stephen White living at his mother's home nearby.
13:10Investigators quickly made a house call.
13:13If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be provided for you free of cost if you desire
13:17one.
13:17So do you understand your rights?
13:19Yes, sir.
13:20Okay.
13:20So you have any idea why we're here today?
13:22Well, they said that y'all got me on camera last night burglarizing the place.
13:28Do you know anything about it?
13:29No.
13:30But the wonders of technology did not allow White to lie for long.
13:35I got a picture here.
13:37Can I see it?
13:38Nicholson had a security camera screenshot of White committing the burglary on his phone.
13:44And that's just one of the five that they sent us.
13:47And they got video, too.
13:48And we got video.
13:49That's just a still shot from a video.
13:51Hold on.
13:51Let me see here.
13:53I mean, I really do not have a hat.
13:56I don't even have a hat.
13:58Unable to deny it, Nicholson says White admitted to burglarizing Marsh's home.
14:03This woman has hated me for years, but I'm best friends with her daughter.
14:09Okay.
14:09What's her daughter's name?
14:10Ashley Jones.
14:11Then, stunningly, White said something else.
14:15Based on information he claimed Ashley had told him that Marsha was responsible for her husband's death.
14:23This woman is a f***ing murderer.
14:26Okay.
14:27I know that.
14:28I have not gone to nobody and said anything because I don't have no f***ing proof on it.
14:31This woman's a psychopath.
14:33And I'm telling you guys that right now.
14:36Harold Allen was her husband.
14:37She set a life insurance policy for him.
14:40Went and married him.
14:41White then revealed how Marsha allegedly cashed in on the policy.
14:46Stephen White told me that Marsha Allen had killed her husband, Harold, by poisoning a root beer float.
14:52White even knew the details of how the float was made.
14:56Marsha went into the kitchen and made a root beer float with whipped cream and sprinkles on top of it.
15:03And just poured something out of a bottle into the air.
15:08Police placed White under arrest.
15:10You're going to put your hands on your back.
15:11But as they did, he had one more surprise about the burglary.
15:16He claimed Marsha's daughter was the mastermind.
15:21Ashley's the one who set this s*** up.
15:23White told police Ashley had mailed him a key to Marsha's house and given him the combination to the safe.
15:30Unaware her mother had installed those home security cameras.
15:34He also told investigators where they could recover everything stolen the night before.
15:39They were, including guns and jewelry.
15:42We found the guns where he told us they were.
15:44He told me who the other suspect was and found that suspect wearing Harold Allen's jewelry.
15:50And I told Detective Bertram, I said, you know, everything that Stephen's told us up to this point has been
15:55true.
15:56I said, I feel like we at least have to ask her about Harold and Harold's death.
16:01After notifying police, Marsha had driven home from her vacation.
16:05The next morning, she arrived at the sheriff's department to discuss the burglary.
16:11So that's your husband's ring or your husband's?
16:13That's my husband's ring.
16:14They got his mandolin.
16:15They got a bunch of his collectible Star Wars stuff.
16:19Investigators at first made no mention of Stephen White's murder allegation.
16:24Instead, treating the interview as part of the burglary investigation.
16:29Asking Marsha what was missing.
16:31I have a picture of me wearing the sapphire earrings and necklace at our wedding.
16:36Yeah, if you think it'll help identify anything and we start going through stuff.
16:39They also discussed Ashley's potential involvement.
16:43You said you talked to your daughter.
16:45What is she saying?
16:46She's denying it.
16:47She goes, he's trying to drag me down.
16:49I'm like, Ashley, I said, I have proof.
16:51Marsha said the proof was that White knew her safe's combination.
16:56She's the only one other than me who knew the combination.
16:58And I would never give it out to anybody.
17:00Ever.
17:02Did you already have a plan to ask her about this murder allegation?
17:07Yes.
17:07Then after talking about the burglary, basically I end up telling her, you know,
17:11this has been brought to our attention.
17:13I can tell you we...
17:14Detective Burcham told Marsha what Stephen had claimed.
17:18He accused you of murdering your husband.
17:21I did not murder my husband.
17:23Poisoning his drink.
17:24Marsha was defiant and seemed to have an answer for everything.
17:28That would show me a toxicology report if that happened.
17:31Was there an autopsy done?
17:32Yes.
17:32There was an autopsy.
17:33Autopsy and toxicology.
17:35Okay.
17:35He died because he had periodontics that was undetected.
17:39I'm just telling you what he said.
17:40He's lying.
17:41Okay.
17:42No emotion, no anything, didn't even catch her off guard.
17:47Marsha denied any involvement, but Stephen White had given other details to police, things
17:54he said he'd heard from Ashley, telling investigators that Marsha's text messages would contain incriminating evidence.
18:03We wanted to see if she would have any text messages that possibly said anything about a murder of her
18:09husband.
18:10Would you be willing to consent to download your cell phone?
18:14Yeah.
18:14Bertram left Marsha alone to get the paperwork for the download.
18:19And while I'm gone from the interview room, Marsha ends up deleting items off of her phone.
18:26Marsha didn't realize that what she deleted could easily be recovered, and those texts revealed a sinister plot.
18:35There are numerous text messages between her and Ashley, and it starts to become evident that there's something going on,
18:46that they were indeed trying to poison Harold Allen.
18:50I mean, I'm seeing the same thing he's seeing.
18:52You know, he's calling me, I'm calling him, like, did you read page 10,578?
18:58And he's like, no, I haven't got that far yet.
19:00For mother and daughter, it seemed Harold's death couldn't come soon enough.
19:05With Marsha texting Ashley, he just needs to let go.
19:10Ultimately, we all agreed that, yes, we've got a murder here.
19:14She gave him a root beer flow with poison.
19:28This woman is a f***ing murderer.
19:31With Stephen White's accusation that Marsha Allen poisoned her husband with a root beer float...
19:36This woman's a psychopath.
19:37And her devious behavior deleting texts with her daughter Ashley, investigators zeroed in on those messages.
19:47Some disparaged Harold.
19:49Ashley complained, he's a waste of space.
19:53Others celebrated the delivery of poisons.
19:56Ashley wrote, smiley face, I'm ready for that to arrive.
20:01Marsha replied, me too.
20:04They texted about everything.
20:06Jackson County Prosecutor Lindsay Fleetwood.
20:09There were thousands upon thousands.
20:11Did you just say thousands of messages?
20:13There were thousands of messages.
20:15Investigators would spend weeks building their case,
20:18combing through nearly 7,000 texts exchanged over the three months before Harold died.
20:25Yeah, this is going to be very helpful.
20:27The more they read, the more they learned of a diabolical plot to kill Harold.
20:33Why would they want him dead?
20:34Greed.
20:36It was all for financial gain.
20:38Police learned Harold had a $120,000 life insurance policy through his job.
20:45He also had those guns and several guitars.
20:48I think money was a very big motive in this case.
20:53Investigators say those thousands of texts revealed Marsha and Ashley tried to kill Harold over and over again with a
21:01variety of exotic poisons.
21:03Police found an order Ashley made on eBay for pong pong seeds, a powerful toxin.
21:11Pong pong is a seed from a tree that grows in Southeast Asia.
21:17They actually refer to this tree as called the suicide tree.
21:19It's not a native plant to the United States, so it would have to be ordered online somewhere.
21:28As Thanksgiving approached, police believe mother and daughter put a new dessert on the menu, poison brownies.
21:36They texted about grinding up the pong pong seeds, adding walnuts to hide the poison's bitter taste.
21:43What wasn't hidden was their apparent glee.
21:48Ashley writes,
22:00They're basically making a joke out of the fact that they're going to try to murder him.
22:04The smiley faces, the LOLs, when someone's in excruciating pain, I mean, this shows you how evil that these people
22:15actually are.
22:15As Harold made repeated trips to the ER, suffering all those GI symptoms, police say a new level of depravity
22:24emerged in a text from Marsha to Ashley.
22:29I am irritated and can't sleep peacefully.
22:32I need this to be over.
22:34He's not dying fast enough.
22:36In another instance, after Marsha texted Ashley that Harold was attending a family funeral.
22:43Ashley Jones messages Marsha and says he just needs to go and drop in the hole, too.
22:50After the pong pong seeds failed to kill Harold, police learned they ordered another lethal plant, water hemlock.
22:58Investigators say on several days in December, they served him tainted chili, Sprite, and a margarita.
23:07He surrounded himself with people he thought loved him.
23:10And to be poisoned on a nightly basis, basically, infuriates me.
23:17They poisoned him and they waited for him to die.
23:24But somehow, Harold survived all those attempts.
23:28Police believe Marsha and Ashley then shifted from plants to a chemical called ethylene glycol, which is used in antifreeze.
23:37They ordered it online.
23:39If you're consuming ethylene glycol, you're not going to know.
23:43You're not going to smell it.
23:44It doesn't have any color to it.
23:46It's described as maybe a slight sweet taste.
23:50Investigators believe because of its sweet taste, Marsha and Ashley came up with the plan of a poisoned root beer
23:58float.
23:59If you put it in a root beer float with ice cream and root beer, you're not going to know
24:03until it's too late.
24:05Marsha texted Ashley.
24:06He's all in for root beer floats.
24:09Ashley replied, okie dokie.
24:11I'll tell the kids that's what we are doing tonight for dessert.
24:15Smiley face, root beer floats.
24:17They probably had this so well planned out that they knew exactly what he would eat and what he wouldn't.
24:24Marsha purchased the ingredients for this poisonous beverage at a local store.
24:29She texted Ashley this photo of small soda cans.
24:34Ashley encouraged her to buy large bottles.
24:38Investigators believe Marsha served Harold the fatal potion on the night of December 19th, 2022.
24:45I think they knew that this was 100% going to be successful.
24:50This ethylene glycol, when it gets into your body, what does it attack?
24:56It starts attacking, like, some of the organs, you know, like the heart, liver, kidneys, stomach.
25:03You know, you're sick, nauseated.
25:05I believe it even starts to affect the brain some.
25:09They not only wanted to kill him, but it seems like they wanted to profoundly make him suffer.
25:16What's the source of that kind of hatred?
25:18I don't know where a hatred that deep can even stem from.
25:22The next afternoon, just five days before Christmas, 2022, an ambulance rushed to the Allen home.
25:30Harold could not be saved.
25:33Ready?
25:36After reading the blow-by-blow account spelled out in those texts,
25:41on October 16th, 2023, investigators took action.
25:49Hi, Marsha.
25:51Here, step out here for us real quick.
25:53We're here today because we got a search warrant for your house, okay?
25:56Officers served a pre-dawn warrant at Marsha's home.
26:00Who's accusing me of murdering?
26:02There's text messages about ordering ethylene glycol.
26:05Huh?
26:06I did not kill my husband.
26:08The ethylene glycol shows up at your house on December 19th.
26:14And Harold passed away on December 20th.
26:18Yeah.
26:19So, and we're also being told that the way he was poisoned, that it was through a root beer float.
26:24No.
26:26No.
26:41After serving the warrant to search her house, Marsha was asked if she'd voluntarily come to the Jackson County Sheriff's
26:48Department for questioning.
26:50We're going to show you some of these messages and you can explain to them.
26:53I don't have a choice.
26:55I mean, you have a choice.
26:56You don't have to go.
26:58You don't have to go.
26:59What followed was a four-and-a-half-hour interview in which Marsha said largely, nothing.
27:05The root beer float is confirmed in your text messages.
27:09And then there's an ethylene glycol that was ordered and sent to your house.
27:14And you say you don't know anything about that.
27:17No.
27:18Marsha was moved to a different room to show her some of those recovered text messages on a computer screen.
27:25Undaunted, she continued her claims of ignorance.
27:29Is there any reason that there would be any ethylene glycol found in Harold's body?
27:38No.
27:39When Harold died, his autopsy cited cardiac issues.
27:43But the coroner did not screen Harold's blood for poisons at the time because his death was not suspicious.
27:51Luckily for us, they keep that blood for a year.
27:56So we, you know, have to put a hold on that blood and it's going to be retested for all
28:02kinds of other stuff.
28:03Right now, the way this is going, I have a bad feeling that when we get these results back, that
28:09it's going to show ethylene glycol in his system.
28:12If it is, it's going to shock me.
28:14When the interview ended, Marsha wasn't arrested.
28:17She was allowed to return home as the wait began for Harold's blood test results.
28:23That same day, her daughter Ashley, who'd been living in Missouri, was extradited to Indiana under arrest for the burglary
28:32of her mother's house.
28:34The next morning, at the station, Ashley was about to be surprised.
28:40We're not going to talk to you about the burglary, okay?
28:43That's not what we're here to talk about.
28:45Investigators got right to the point.
28:48We have some text messages from your mom's phone.
28:53Do you know anything about the ethylene glycol?
28:55No, sir.
28:56The information we got was Harold did not die of natural causes, basically, that he was poisoned.
29:02Really?
29:03They told Ashley they'd already talked to her mother.
29:08If you know something, if you know something, now's the time to tell us so we can...
29:14I know she said she wanted out.
29:19But that's all.
29:20But that wasn't all.
29:22Just ten minutes later, Ashley, in a complete change of direction, named her own mother as Harold's killer.
29:30She didn't want to divorce him.
29:31I said divorce.
29:33She wanted to be free of him completely.
29:36She wanted him dead.
29:37And I said, you're going to go to hell for that month.
29:40No matter what happens, you're going to hell.
29:44Ashley continued giving her mother hell,
29:46admitting she helped Marsha purchase ethylene glycol and other poisons online,
29:52but claimed she was just being an obedient daughter.
29:56I really don't ask many questions, which I guess I should.
30:02For that woman, I just do what she asks and always have since I was a child.
30:08Remember, Ashley was in the house as Harold was in agony during his final hours of life.
30:15She was asked why she didn't do more for Harold when he still might have been saved.
30:20Did you ever mention anything to her that maybe you should call an ambulance?
30:24I did.
30:25I said, are you sure you want to do that?
30:26No.
30:27You asked her if she was sure she wanted to do this?
30:29No, because this is awful.
30:30Okay.
30:31I mean, just doing that to anybody, regardless of any which way or form, I didn't agree.
30:37But loyalty to the mother is a hell of a thing.
30:40Unexpected news about her mother would punctuate the end of Ashley's police interview
30:46when another officer entered the room.
30:49My name is Jesse.
30:50I'm a sergeant here in the detective's office.
30:53Okay.
30:55So I'm here to talk to you about something completely different.
30:58Okay.
30:59The night before, hours after Marsha's own interview ended and she'd returned home,
31:05Marsha's parents had been unable to reach her on the phone.
31:09They had also been to the house knocking on the door and her car was home,
31:13but she wasn't answering the door.
31:15They notified police.
31:17That's the new key.
31:19Then it was dispatched for our officers to go for a welfare check.
31:23It's not going to be an easy conversation, okay?
31:28After your mom was here yesterday and spoke with us,
31:31we got a call to go check on her welfare at her home, and she's passed away.
31:39What?
31:40She passed away.
31:45What happened?
31:47Without going into a lot of detail,
31:49it appeared that there was something ingested possibly and passed away on her bed.
31:58Marsha Allen was discovered deceased, and it was ruled a suicide.
32:02She killed her, though.
32:04That is what we believe happened, yes.
32:09Why do you think she took her life at that moment?
32:13I think she didn't want to have to spend the rest of her life in prison.
32:18And, you know, I told her that we were going to send the blood off.
32:22I think she didn't want to stick around and wait and find out what those results were.
32:2748 Hours obtained this photograph of the note Marsha left behind.
32:32And she wrote,
32:33I did not kill my husband.
32:36You win, Ashley, with an exclamation point.
32:40How do you interpret that?
32:42I interpret that.
32:44I don't really give it much weight.
32:46I think it's her way of trying to leave some message
32:50and trying to get out of the fact that she killed her husband.
32:54Now, investigators would start building their case
32:58against the last survivor in this peculiar crime,
33:02Ashley, for her role in Harold's death.
33:19I am going to read you your rights because you're in custody.
33:21That way.
33:22Make sure you understand that.
33:23Just one day after her police interview
33:26and learning her mother had taken her own life...
33:29She's gone.
33:30Correct.
33:31Ashley Jones received more startling news.
33:35You are under the arrest for the murder of Harold, okay?
33:39And conspiracy to commit murder and attempted murder.
33:43Ashley responded with just five words.
33:49Still on the table was that burglary charge against Ashley.
33:54Police were certain they knew exactly how it was connected to Harold's death.
34:00Marsha Allen paid Ashley about $1,000 a month
34:03from the time of Harold's death in December of 2022
34:07till, like, July of 2023.
34:10The burglary occurred just two months after the payment stopped.
34:15She was going after money that she thought belonged to her
34:18from the murder of Harold Allen.
34:21Ashley Jones didn't feel like she received her compensation for that.
34:25The prosecution said it had a strong case against Ashley,
34:29especially when toxicology results confirmed
34:32exactly what police suspected.
34:34Harold had been given a root beer float,
34:37poisoned with ethylene glycol,
34:40purchased by Ashley,
34:42as those damning text messages showed.
34:44What Ashley said in those texts hurt her.
34:47I mean, there's just no way around it.
34:51Ashley's attorney, public defender Joseph Robertson,
34:54knew it was going to be a difficult case.
34:57There was a legal freight train headed toward your client.
35:00I mean, this was an impossible case.
35:03Yes.
35:03By the time that all this evidence came out,
35:06we just told her, said, you know,
35:07we're in the tunnel and the white light at the other end
35:10is the legal system coming after you.
35:13But Ashley would never have to defend her texts
35:17or murderous actions in court.
35:19In August 2025, she took a plea deal,
35:23pleading guilty to attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder.
35:32I don't think I can ever say that I saw remorse on Ashley Jones' face.
35:38Harold's brother Matthew and his wife Samantha
35:41were in the courtroom for the sentencing.
35:43The judge said there's no other word but evil.
35:48There's no forgiveness from this court.
35:52And I have no choice but to give you the full time.
35:56Ashley was sentenced to 50 years in prison.
36:00It was just a sigh of relief.
36:03We finally felt like we got a little bit of justice
36:07that my brother deserved.
36:09In the end, these two women,
36:11who would chuckle over their plans with one another,
36:15they didn't get away with this.
36:18One took her own life when confronted with her deeds,
36:21and the other one is gone for decades.
36:24Absolutely.
36:25I truly think they thought they were smarter than the system.
36:30But Ashley's legal woes may not be over.
36:33There is another death in her past,
36:35her late husband, Ty Jones, who died when he was just 33.
36:40His autopsy said the cause of death was heart issues.
36:44But two of his family members suspected foul play from the beginning.
36:49You believe that Ty Jones, your nephew, was murdered?
36:53Yes, I do.
36:54William Jones and Aretha Stivers are Ty's uncle and cousin.
36:58What do you believe happened to him?
37:01I believe that he was poisoned.
37:04Ty's body was not tested for poison in 2019,
37:07and he was cremated at Ashley's request.
37:11But his family says Ty was perfectly healthy before suddenly dying.
37:16And after his death,
37:18they say Ashley's strange behavior raised red flags.
37:23During Ty's funeral service,
37:25Ashley Jones did not shed any tears.
37:27The next day,
37:29she showed up at Ty's place of employment
37:31to inquire about his insurance policy.
37:33She expected a check that very next day.
37:35All of it to me said,
37:37there is something going on here that needs to be investigated.
37:41After William and Aretha heard how Harold died on the news,
37:46they contacted police,
37:48sharing their suspicions that Ashley murdered Ty,
37:51her eye on an inheritance he had just received
37:55from his great-grandfather.
37:57I do believe that there was a large enough sum of money
38:00and a property that Ashley likely thought she would inherit
38:05and that that could have been a motivator for her.
38:08And in Ashley and Marcia's text about murdering Harold,
38:12there was a reference to Ty.
38:14After Marcia complained the deadly pong-pong seeds
38:17were failing to kill Harold,
38:21Ashley, out of the blue,
38:23said Ty had weighed much less than Harold,
38:26writing,
38:27and previously Ty was only 120 LOL.
38:32During their 48-hours interview,
38:35William and Aretha heard about that text for the first time.
38:39They reference Ashley's late husband, Ty.
38:44There it is.
38:45There it is right there.
38:47It's painful to hear.
38:49Yeah, it is.
38:50Because it's one thing to suspect
38:52and to feel like you know,
38:54but to have that kind of evidence presented verbally
38:59for the first time is gut-wrenching.
39:02It means what you have suspected all along is true.
39:05All the time.
39:07All the time.
39:09Ashley maintains that Ty died of a heart attack,
39:13but Indiana State Police opened an investigation into his death.
39:17Nicholson says he's struck by the similarities
39:20between Harold and Ty's deaths.
39:24I believe it's way more than a coincidence.
39:27Personally, I think that she probably killed him,
39:30but that's my opinion.
39:32There's very few probably as evil
39:35as Marcia Allen and Ashley Jones.
39:37They're the same person.
39:41I mean, just carbon copy evil.
39:47Looking back,
39:48Harold's family doesn't think Marcia ever really loved him.
39:52I think she chose the person that she could manipulate.
39:59Their memories are all that remain
40:02to fill the void left by the man they called Peanut,
40:05who had a big personality and an even greater heart.
40:10I'll see something,
40:12and I'll be like,
40:14oh, man, that's something Peanut would love to know about,
40:16and I go to actually call him,
40:20and I'm like, oh, I can't.
40:21So it is something that
40:24I would give anything to get back, honestly.
40:29My goodness, how much you miss him, huh?
40:32Yes, it's crazy.
40:33Every day.
40:34Every day.
40:35Every day.
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