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00:05Working in television you often come across people with big heads but none as big as this
00:10skull of a sperm whale. These graceful ocean dwellers have the biggest brains of any animal
00:17but grace and big brains aren't the only thing she and I have in common. We're both stuck in
00:23this museum our diet consists mostly of live squid and if people want to touch me I make
00:27them wear gloves. But now the gloves are off tonight at the museum.
00:51Hello I'm Alex Lee and welcome to the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery in Lutruwita
00:57joining me tonight for the honor of having one of their own personal
01:02treasures put on display. Can you please welcome Claire Hooper and her mother-in-law's questionnaire.
01:09Alexei Toliopoulos and his vinyl record. A teddy bear owned by Genevieve Morris and finally a wallet
01:22displayed here by Nazeem Hussain. We'll find out more about our guests and their wonderful items
01:28later but first let's put a label on it.
01:35Museum labels serve two purposes. One to tell the story of a particular exhibit and two to distract the
01:42voice in your head saying go on give that vase a little push. I'm gonna present our panel with a
01:48real object from the museum's collection. Two of our players will each read out a label for it but no
01:54one
01:54on the panel knows which one is correct. Our other two players have to decide which is the right label.
02:00Shall we reveal our first object? Let's see it.
02:11Alexei. Wow. What are we looking at here? Well this is of course Martin Cash's walking stick.
02:18He is one of Tasmania's most notorious bush rangers. He was transported from Ireland because he was
02:25house breaking but the real reason was he shot through a window at his mistress's lover hitting him
02:31in the bottom. He's known as a gentleman bush ranger because he was relatively non-violent.
02:38But then the plaque further goes on to say he escaped from prison in Port Arthur, killed the police
02:43officer in a shootout and was sentenced to death by hanging. So he's a man of many layers I'd say
02:50this
02:50Martin Cash. Does your label say something different? Yeah look uh Alexei doesn't know what he's talking
02:56about um but as a and as an expert in specifically that that is obviously Ms. Winifred Patchett Cain
03:07from 1903. She was the headmistress of a girl's school St. Bartholomew School for Girls.
03:14It's usually like this was before like a child psychologist and um welfare coordinators.
03:20They didn't have that they just had the stick. It's seen a lot of girls wrists I guess and um
03:27Bottoms? I was going to say that but I was like thinking of the ABC.
03:30You can say bottoms on the ABC now. That cane will have seen a lot of girls bottoms.
03:36You can't say girls bottoms. Oh we're putting this straight online out of context Nazeem.
03:40If that cane could talk it would scream okay. She punished the girls for all sorts of things
03:47including insolence in mathematics, cane uh if you laughed after getting caned you get caned again.
03:52Fist fights after school. So she punished violence with more violence. Um and also putting leaf on
03:59forehead. That's that was like the TikTok dancing of the day. It was a trend. It was a trend.
04:06It was always a trend. Um and this is one other thing about um Ms Winnie. Female teachers were
04:11forbidden to work once they were married so she decided to stay single her entire life.
04:16She looked at men and she was like nah I'd rather cane girls.
04:21She chose violence. Well Claire and Jen which label are you thinking is the correct one here?
04:26Was this cane in the hands of a bush ranger or used on the hands of naughty school girls?
04:31Wow. Both stories so richly violent. Which to choose? I mean traditionally we don't celebrate
04:39the achievements of women which makes me lean towards the male history. To a criminal yes.
04:45How about you Genevieve? What year was yours? 1800s. So it's got a range of 100 years it could be
04:53from.
04:53I, oh right okay. I don't know why but I, I go towards Naz's stick. Oh come on. So I'm
05:06gonna,
05:06I mean I'm gonna go with Naz's. I don't know why. Miss Winifred and how are you feeling about these
05:11stories Claire? I'm gonna put my money on Martin Cash's walking stick. So you've heard of Martin Cash? Yep.
05:20Let's put a label on it.
05:26It is Martin Cash's walking stick. So Alexi's story was all true right down to shooting in the bottom.
05:36But that is not just any old walking stick. Take a look at this. It's actually a walking stick that
05:43turns into a gun. Oh my lord. So what I'm unscrewing here this is the tamper down the end. So
05:50this is
05:50where the bullet would have come out. And you would have had to have preset this gun at home probably
05:55and gone out walking with it ready to go. Because you've got your sight just here so you can look
06:00straight down the barrel of the gun there. And then should you actually wish to shoot someone there's a
06:05tiny little button just there. Don't press it. Well thank you very much Isabel. Fascinating. Wow. Wow.
06:14And as for Miss Winnie there is no St Bartholomews but there was a ban on married women working in
06:20the public service. So that bit was true. That wasn't lifted until 1966. Yeah. Lucky for me hosting
06:27this show on our public broadcaster otherwise you all might have gotten Will Anderson again.
06:34So Genevieve no points for you. Claire you're correct. So two points for you. All right ready for your next
06:40object?
06:41Let's see what we have.
06:48Genevieve what are we looking at here? We are looking at an Air India ashtray made by Salvador Dali in
06:581967.
06:59The year of my birth Air India commissioned Salvador Dali. Why did you look at me like that?
07:06I don't know. I'm just letting you know. Wow. As a sign of like respect man. Oh right.
07:11Because I've been here for heaps longer than you. Yeah. Because until you said that I thought
07:14we were at the same. No. Oh god no. So in 1967 the year of my birth Air India commissioned
07:23Salvador Dali
07:24to design a luxury ashtray. Now Dali agreed to be paid with an elephant instead of money.
07:32That's what I asked in my contracts for this show as well. Yes.
07:36One small elephant please. Just a small. Yeah.
07:39Well Air India obliged and sent to his house in Spain a two-year-old elephant named Big Baby.
07:49The Grand Bambino. Something like that. What have you got Claire? You know Tasmanian cricket legend
07:58David Boone. Wow. David Boone also made ceramics. Pretty muscular fingers so it shouldn't be a surprise.
08:08David Boone created this ornamental dip bowl during a sculpting course. A what bowl? It is a dip bowl.
08:15So basically you know like like hummus. Wow. Paramus a lot. But like depending on your taste could be both.
08:24So the elephant represents Eden Gardens in India where he won Man of the Match in the World Cup final.
08:31And the swan represents the Whacker where he scored his only double century. Yeah. It was donated to TMAG for
08:38the hidden talents exhibition.
08:40Okay. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. My gosh. Oof. Howie what are you thinking Nazeem and Alexei? Which label is the
08:48correct one?
08:49Is this an original piece from Dali or Boonie? And when I'm looking at it I'm trying to imagine
08:54what mood I would be in. Would I be you know getting a little cracker or a piece of pina
08:59bread
08:59and dunking it in some parama? Or am I getting a little durry and just like go.
09:05Does anyone have any nicotine gum at the moment? Sorry. Something's happening to me right now.
09:11Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Do you are you familiar with David Boone? No. I don't know that.
09:17I don't know. I've never seen a single episode of sport in my life. I don't know any.
09:22Are you. How could you. This is not an appropriate ashtray for an airplane. Like and was he expected
09:26to make. Well they weren't built into the seats then Nazeem you see. So well they some of them were
09:32but
09:32because it was Air India and they wanted to be fancy and they they said we're going to go one
09:37better.
09:38So every time someone wants to smoke they bring up these. Well there's a trolley. Yeah. And they.
09:44Wow. You know so much about this.
09:48I think that uh it could go either way but I'm going to say um I would love to believe
09:53I'm in the presence of an original Dali. What about you Nazeem? I think it's a dip bowl.
09:57A dip bowl. All right. Let's put a label on it.
10:13So yeah it's all true in 1967 Dali did design very limited edition ashtray for Air India in exchange
10:21for an elephant and Dali donated the animal to the Barcelona Zoo. There he is. There's big baby.
10:27Wow. Probably after he realized how many times a day he'd have to feed it which is especially hard
10:32to work out when all your clocks are melted. As for David Boone and his penchant for pottery I'm
10:38sorry but if any cricketer would make a ceramic it would be Ian Healey. He was always asking
10:43Warnie if he wanted a bowl Shane. Well at the end of that round the scores are Nazeem and Genevieve
10:52yet to score but Claire and Alexi on two points.
11:03A reminder whoever wins tonight will have a personal item displayed here at TMac. Claire it
11:09looks like you brought some paperwork along with you. This was an envelope that my future mother-in-law
11:15slid across the table to me. Like it was the first time I met her and we went over to
11:19her house.
11:20Anyway so I joked you know just to break the awkwardness I was like is that the questionnaire
11:24and she said yes you don't have to answer it right away. Just some time before you leave.
11:32But it's like 10 questions it's just you know things other people would call a conversation.
11:40Things like what are your hobbies? No question mark. Your favorite color?
11:44Question 8. If I inadvertently upset you would you feel that you could say to me
11:49hey you were pissing me off so back off bitch or else?
11:57Is this a picture from your wedding day?
12:00Yes that's Liz Duffin. Clearly very reluctant to give her husband up.
12:12Overseas visitors have always found Australia's weird and wonderful creatures difficult to describe.
12:18English naturalist George Harris called the Tassie Devil an ursine opossum which means bear like possum.
12:25Mmm. And the thylacine was once called the zebra wolf. And let's not even start on the two words
12:31the museum responded with when I asked if I could ride the dinosaur skeleton. Now you must describe as
12:36many Australian animals as possible to your partner but you can only use two words. Alexi you'll be sending
12:44your two word missives to Claire. One point for each animal Claire correctly guesses. Can you please give
12:51it up for Alexi and Claire? Two words to describe what you see and your time starts now.
13:01Uh loud birds.
13:05Cock-a-bur-ra. No cockatoo. You got it.
13:10Yes. Duff-bill.
13:13Platypus. Well done.
13:17Oh dear. Um, uh, jewellery mollusk.
13:23An oyster?
13:25Oh no. I'm so bad at this instantly. I'm just about to be so good at this. I know so
13:32many words. I could have
13:33used any of them. Pass. Next one. Um,
13:41Noisy roof. Noisy roof. Bat. Noisy roof. Possum. Yay! Okay. Amphibian. Jump.
13:53Prom. Prom. Yes. Okay. Uh, reptile collared. Frill neck lizard. Oh my god.
14:02Rotund rodent.
14:07Quokka? No. Close, I think. Bilby, a quendor, a quoll. Oh shit, it's not even.
14:13A bandicoot. Not even. I'm moving further away from the past.
14:18Yes. God, no. This one's not even a creature. Uh, mythological ocean.
14:28No, past. Yeah. Oh my god. Mad as.
14:34A pup snake? Mad as. Can I restart?
14:37Five, four, three, two, one. Everyone stop counting. Stop counting.
14:45Everyone stop the count. Come back to the dance.
14:50Claire, do you have two words you'd like to say to Alexi?
14:56Yeah, I'd like to call him a jewellery mollusk.
14:58What is a jewellery mollusk? A jewellery mollusk was a blue ringed octopus.
15:05Oh, that's beautiful.
15:08Okay, it's your turn now. Genevieve, you'll be guessing and Nazeem, you'll be describing.
15:13All right, give it up for Genevieve and Nazeem.
15:17All right, you ready? Yep. Your time starts now.
15:22Oh god. Laughing bird.
15:24Kookaburra.
15:30Ouchie sponge.
15:33Sea urchin? No, uh, ouchie sponge. Oh, um, jellyfish?
15:42Local legend.
15:45David Boone.
15:48Sorry, legend. Okay, Tasmanian devil. Yes.
15:52Yes. Yes. You can do this.
15:57Uh, what did you, uh, like a trunk rat.
16:06Pass.
16:09Watery Mufasa.
16:13Sea lion.
16:17Aldi kangaroo.
16:19I mean, like there's a kangaroo. Walker.
16:23Wallaby.
16:24Um, happy feet.
16:28Penguin.
16:29Uh, look. Oh, no, no. Okay.
16:36Yeah, no. Huntsman.
16:39This is the last one.
16:42Wobbly neck.
16:46Nothing.
16:47Five, four, three, two, one.
16:53Gallagher.
16:57Okay, so let's see how you went. You did very well.
17:00Yeah.
17:00I can't believe you got Huntsman from our look.
17:02Yeah.
17:06So the only one that you passed that you didn't see was trunk rat.
17:10Yes.
17:12Which was a numbat.
17:14So to keep the theme of two word descriptions, I'll describe that round as pure chaos.
17:18Yeah.
17:24Not long before we find out which of our panelists will have their item displayed here at TMAG.
17:30Now, Alexi, did you swing past the local record store on your way in?
17:34This is a record of ET.
17:37And you may be looking at this going like, wow, ET's got such a beautiful score by John Williams.
17:41Of course they made a record of it.
17:43This is not that.
17:44This is an audio book of the movie ET that they turned into a book and then they turned into
17:50a record.
17:51And it is narrated by the least expected person.
18:05And he keeps calling ET that squishy little guy.
18:09That squishy little guy ET.
18:11I love it.
18:12Yeah, it's so beautiful.
18:13Look at that.
18:14That's amazing.
18:15He looks so lifelike.
18:18Then he went through a few more cosmetic surgeries and looked a little less lifelike.
18:23One of these very items will end up on display here at the museum.
18:27Crazy.
18:28And then, you know, shortly after that it will be shoved on a high up shelf in an archival warehouse
18:32somewhere.
18:39Hippocrates once said physicians should first do no harm.
18:42But if accounts from 19th century medicine are anything to go by, the pledge may as well have been,
18:47try everything and hope for the best and then, I don't know, leeches?
18:51In this game, I'll present you with an object from the TMAG medical collection.
18:56And you have to highlight where on the body it would have been used.
19:01Let's start with this scary looking thing from around the 1800s.
19:13Now that's an unboxing video.
19:16Look at that.
19:17So, mark on your body where you think this would have been used.
19:21Let's see your answers.
19:28Genevieve, what have you chosen?
19:30Ah, well, an early blood pressure type.
19:35So, I put it here because, you know, that's where you get the thing wrapped around there.
19:38But, um, yeah.
19:41Nazeem, what have you gone with?
19:42I really tried to think of something more respectable.
19:46Um, it looks a bit like a colonoscopy thing.
19:49Oh, okay. So, you're going with bottle.
19:52What about you, Alexi?
19:53To not be too crude.
19:55I thought this was, um, a milking device.
19:57Oh, okay.
19:59I thought it could have been too milked.
20:00A ye olde breast pump.
20:02Yeah, something like that because it's got a little dial that presumably say that's how much milk
20:06that's going to come out of it, or...
20:08And it's like in a little silver tube that looks like a little milkshake maker already.
20:13So, I thought...
20:14I thought that's, I thought, yeah, that's all I could...
20:17Hook a couple of ladies up at the milk bar and...
20:21Put in some vanilla malt.
20:23Yeah, but they're delicious flavour.
20:24One of the great flavours.
20:26Claire, what have you chosen?
20:28Well...
20:31I'm looking at a tube to remove waste.
20:34I'm looking at a canister that is clearly for collection, and I'm looking at a pressure gauge,
20:40and it just makes me think, pre-surgery enema.
20:44Yeah.
20:45Can we pump the poops out?
20:46Can we pump the poo out?
20:47This is a pneumothorax machine.
20:51Oh, well, that's...
20:52So, that was used to fill a tuberculosis patient's chest with nitrous gas
20:57to deliberately collapse a lung, because they thought that would help it heal.
21:01It would not, as it turned out.
21:03Oh.
21:04So, these were used from the 1890s until a vaccine was introduced in Australia in 1945,
21:10and probably for a bit longer for any vintage anti-vaxxers.
21:13Oh.
21:14So, no-one got that one.
21:16No points.
21:17Oh.
21:17I was close.
21:19You were close.
21:20You were close.
21:22Next up, Mark, where do you think this was used?
21:28Wow.
21:29A stunning piece.
21:31Wow.
21:32I'm just going to leave mine the same.
21:37All right.
21:38Claire, you've left yours the same?
21:41I mean, I just...
21:42I was like, what would Nazeem think?
21:44Hey!
21:47So, which hole are we thinking here?
21:49Let's be medical.
21:49I thought it might be an early contraceptive device.
21:52Oh, okay.
21:52Oh, wow.
21:53Okay.
21:54Yeah, but because it's the olden days, it would be like, you know, made of lead,
21:58and would give women lead poisoning from the inside.
22:02But, yeah, I'm thinking of...
22:04Oh, like a lead diaphragm.
22:05Thinking of very inflexible diaphragm.
22:08What have you got there, Nazeem?
22:10Got a foot, Claire.
22:11Got a foot.
22:12Okay?
22:13All right.
22:13Um, so it's just for if you've got a flat foot, you just stand on that thing, and then it
22:18cures you...
22:19Like, what you're saying is an early, very poor masseur sandal.
22:23Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
22:25Okay, Alexi?
22:26Uh, yeah, I thought it was a hat.
22:28It was a little, a little hat.
22:30A medical hat?
22:31A little hat, you know, maybe to protect from x-ray.
22:34Oh.
22:35Oh, shit, sorry, put it out to protect the brain.
22:38Genevieve?
22:38Yep.
22:39What body part did you go for?
22:40Uh, the nipple.
22:41Uh-huh.
22:42Some women have inverted nipples, some men have them too.
22:46Who cares?
22:47So this was a nipple tip, nipple, nipple tiplot.
22:51A nipple tiplot?
22:52All right.
22:52Well, I can tell you that these are metallic nipple shields.
22:57Oh, my God!
22:59Oh, my God!
23:00Wow!
23:01She did it!
23:02She did it!
23:04Wow.
23:05What a doctor.
23:06These were sold by Dr. Waynesborough and recommended by the most eminent medical men.
23:13Truly a sight for sore nipples.
23:15Until that is, they were banned in the U.S. because, Claire Hooper, they were made of lead.
23:22Oh, my God!
23:24Yes.
23:26So they made them like that on purpose because they thought the lead would mix with the milk
23:31to create lead lactate to soothe the nipples.
23:35Full of iron.
23:35But also, as it turns out, kill babies.
23:38Wow.
23:38So, not as good.
23:39Not worth it.
23:40I'm going to give you a point, Genevieve, and for getting the lead.
23:42I'll give one to you too, Claire.
23:47And finally, this.
23:54Oh, my God.
23:55Oh, interesting.
23:57Fascinating shape on that thing.
23:59Yeah.
24:00Oh, no.
24:02Oh, I'm not for whatever.
24:03All right, so a little eye.
24:04I'll wait for the eye.
24:05I'll wait.
24:06And, Claire, what have you done?
24:08I swear I didn't...
24:09I don't mean to.
24:11You know what?
24:13When you...
24:13Like, I'm just...
24:14I'm putting my money on red again.
24:16I'm like, well, I didn't get it the first time.
24:18I'm just going to leave the arrow there until I have a ride.
24:21So what do you think it is, Claire?
24:22Well, it looks to me like a very terrible idea for a tampon
24:27and absolutely invented by someone who has not bled.
24:31It just looks pluggy enough and it's got holes.
24:34I'm not proud, but I couldn't think of anything else.
24:39All right.
24:43Don't you go.
24:44Mum and Dad are going to watch this.
24:46Lowering the tone of the show.
24:48You could be right.
24:49That was a douche.
24:51Oh.
24:51Oh, my God.
24:53Wow.
24:54So, Claire, you are correct.
24:56Wow.
25:01Got it.
25:03Believe in yourself.
25:06So, yes, it was a douche,
25:07uh, which is very rare to see outside of the comments section
25:10on my Instagram.
25:12That they existed long ago.
25:14This one's made from bone and was used to prevent conception.
25:18So, it was used to spray some sort of liquid up there, like...
25:22Psh.
25:23Oh.
25:24At the end of that round, Dr. Claire did the best,
25:28and Claire, maybe you should have pursued medicine after all.
25:39With only one round left, it's still anyone's game.
25:43Let's go take one last look at the museum's convict display
25:46with a quiz we're calling Cell of the Century.
25:54Hands on buzzers.
25:56Nine-year-old convict John Hudson was sent to Australia
26:00after leaving sooty footprints behind in a house that he was burgling.
26:06What was his profession?
26:08Nazeem.
26:09Burglar.
26:12Not burglar. Genevieve.
26:14Chimney sweeper.
26:15That is correct.
26:18If I were an unwell convict in Sydney,
26:22and I was sent to the Sydney slaughterhouse, where was I going?
26:27Alexi.
26:28To the next round.
26:30Principally hell, I would say.
26:32So, this is a nickname that the convicts gave this place.
26:34Nazeem.
26:35Oh, okay.
26:35Now that you've said nickname, I'm not going to say abattoir.
26:39Not the abattoir.
26:42The hospital.
26:43Correct.
26:44Yeah.
26:44It was the convict hospital.
26:47This penal punishment.
26:49Oh.
26:50Shares its name with which common piece of gym equipment?
26:54Alexi.
26:55Um, I would say that would be the treadmill.
26:57Yeah!
26:58You're correct.
26:59Oh!
27:02They would spend weeks doing it that have 40 minutes on, 20 minutes off.
27:06John Caesar was one of at least 15 convicts on board the first fleet
27:10who were of African descent.
27:12He went on to become Australia's first what?
27:16Nazeem.
27:17African victim of racism.
27:21Would have been one of the early ones.
27:23But no.
27:24I'll have a guess.
27:26Um, professional boxer.
27:27No, some sort of outlaw.
27:31Alexi.
27:32Bush ranger.
27:33That's correct!
27:38That's right.
27:39So all these guys walking around with Ned Kelly tattoos should be having this guy instead.
27:44Among the convicts sent to Van Diemen's land were warriors such as Hojepi Te Oumuera transported from which country?
27:53Oh, I mean, it sounds like maybe New Zealand?
27:56Correct.
27:57Oh, no.
27:57Yes, there were Maori political prisoners who were part of the colonial resistance there.
28:02By today's standards, what is unusual about this pair of convict-made shoes?
28:07They look different to the shoes that you and I wear, Alexi.
28:11Square toes not in fashion currently, so a faux pas, if you will.
28:17Oh, embarrassing.
28:18Couldn't get into the nightclub wearing beer.
28:19No, no, no.
28:20Not sartorially sounds.
28:21No.
28:22I was going to say, like, there's no beer in it, but they've probably already drank it.
28:28Lex.
28:28Is there no delineation between the left and the right?
28:31They're the same thing?
28:32You are correct.
28:33Oh, my God.
28:34Nice one.
28:35There we go.
28:36They didn't use left and right-footed shoes until the 1850s.
28:41Oh, my gosh.
28:42Wow.
28:43Final question.
28:44Oh, gosh.
28:45A well-dressed and powerful group of convicts at the Cascade Female Factory shared the same
28:51name as what surprising public dance?
28:56Nazeem.
28:57Macaroni?
28:59Genevieve.
29:00Flash Mob.
29:01Correct.
29:02Oh, well done.
29:06They were like these cool female gangs, and they were called the Flash Mob because they
29:10dressed flashy.
29:11Oh, wow.
29:12Yeah, there you go.
29:13That is the end of the show, which means, Claire, you are the winner of tonight's award.
29:21It is time to give away your mother-in-law's questionnaire.
29:28Congratulations to Claire.
29:30And as a special extra surprise, we have your mother-in-law here with 10 more questions.
29:41Thank you all so much for playing along with us.
29:44I've been Alex Lee.
29:45Good night.
29:46I know i got a lot.
29:52Thanks a lot.
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