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The Claudia Winkleman Show Season 1 Episode 4 (2026)
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00:00Hello and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us.
00:05I have just discovered that a dog called Rupert is scared of his local butchers.
00:10Apparently not uncommon. Message me if you would like more details.
00:14Anyway, we have a very lovely audience and some brilliant guests are joining us on the sofa.
00:19He's extremely funny. He's here to talk about his latest stand-up tour.
00:23It's Russell Howard!
00:27Hello. Hello.
00:32She is the star of Smash It, The Morning Show and Loki.
00:37She has a brand new film, Fuse. It's Goo Goo and Battle Roar!
00:49She is an actor, producer and singer who is behind everything from Sleepless in Seattle to Mamma Mia.
00:57She has a new album out. It's Rita Wilson!
00:59Thank you. Thank you for having me.
01:05Hello, everyone!
01:08And he is the award-winning actor best known for X-Men, Filth and Atonement.
01:13He's just directed his very first film. It's the brilliant James McAvoy!
01:20Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all for coming.
01:30Um, Rita, thank you for coming because you've come from very far. But you love London. You used to live
01:36here.
01:36I do love London. Yes, I went to drama school here at Lambda. Very long time ago. But it was
01:41super fun.
01:42And it was, it was, you know, like you're living in England. You're in London. I saw so much theatre.
01:48It was absolutely fantastic. Yeah.
01:51So when you come back, you're like, I remember this little shop or I want to have this soup from
01:56here.
01:56Oh, no, no. You have to understand, like I was on a student's budget. And so in America, we have
02:02this thing called the Freshman 10, which is when you go off to college, you immediately gain 10 pounds.
02:07And I definitely had that because my diet was like McDiddy's. McDiddy's? Did I say McDiddy's? I like McDiddy's.
02:14Guys, we're going to McDiddy's. McDiddy's? But that was McDiddy's. We all did that in freshman year. McDonald's.
02:23I'll have the double diddy. I'll have the double diddy and an STD test.
02:28But McDiddy's was also McDonald's because it was like French fries or McDiddy's. That was my diet and my body
02:34loved it.
02:35Yeah. You were like, thank you. I will come to London more often. Give me more of these.
02:39Russell, for you, Bristol or London?
02:43Well, I'm from Bristol, so I, you know, I prefer Bristol. But it's, no, I like London. I'm a fan.
02:49I got mugged here once and it was the most, but it was the most middle-class mugging.
02:55So a friend of mine had, she'd just given birth, so I got her some cupcakes.
02:59So I'm carrying these cupcakes up this hill and this kid's probably about 15.
03:03really pasty-looking kid just stands in front of me and goes,
03:06Oi! You'd better give me one of them cupcakes.
03:12And I suddenly kind of went, you can't have them. My friend, she's just given birth.
03:16And this kid suddenly went, I'm sorry, tell her congratulations.
03:21And it was such a beautiful moment of, like, you kind of go from fear to, like, yeah.
03:28And I like it.
03:30So, guys, I'd argue that Glasgow's the best town. I've had the best night of my life. I have.
03:34I mean, you could also get in an argument about that in Glasgow.
03:37Yeah.
03:39That sounds like I'm slagging off my hometown. It is. It's the best.
03:41It is. It's fantastic. A man from Latvia carried me above his head in Glasgow.
03:47No, it's just the most fun. Everybody there wants you to have a good time.
03:50They're incredibly proud of Glasgow, as they should be.
03:53Yeah, if Irish people hadn't already invented the crack, we would be inventing the crack.
03:58There you go.
03:59Gugu, you have been to Scotland.
04:01I, yeah, I went to Glasgow actually the first time, um, when I was 11.
04:06I was on, I don't know if anybody remembers the, um, children's game show Fun House.
04:12Oh, yes.
04:13Anybody remember that show?
04:15Yeah, yeah.
04:15What was Fun House?
04:16It was a game show, like, it, there was the red team and the, the yellow team.
04:20It was presented by Pat Sharp.
04:22Yeah.
04:23Twins, kind of cheerleader style.
04:25Melanie and Martina.
04:26Oh, my God, yes.
04:27Oh, wow.
04:29Did you win?
04:30What, what could you win?
04:31Like, the twins?
04:32We won.
04:34We won.
04:34I remember this really, like, dates it now.
04:36I won, like, an Amstrad PC.
04:39Yes.
04:40Um, I won, like, dry slope skiing lessons.
04:44Ha!
04:45Which, I can do that.
04:46What is this?
04:46So depressing.
04:48LAUGHTER
04:50OK, now, Gugu, is it true that you start every day with, with a power pose?
04:55Oh.
04:55I mean, not every day, but I do love a power pose.
04:58Yeah.
04:59What does that mean?
04:59Tell me anything.
05:00I, oh my gosh, I, I watched this TED talk a few years ago about the idea of, you know,
05:05how to change your mood by changing your posture or changing your body and, you know, that if
05:10you can kind of, if you slump your shoulders and, you know...
05:12I'd love slumping.
05:13Well, you can also just feel a bit more down or a bit more kind of depressed.
05:18LAUGHTER
05:18I'm going to do it.
05:19But if you, like, really want...
05:21It's so cool, though slumping.
05:22It's cool, it's cool.
05:23It's cool.
05:23But if you want, like, a quick way to kind of just trick your, you know, your body into
05:28feeling, and your mind into feeling more uplifted, you can do a power pose.
05:30I prefer the sort of, it's a bit hard to do in this dress, but, like, the arms out, kind
05:35of, like, you know, show me to the universe.
05:38Can everyone do it?
05:39Everyone can do it.
05:39If you're able, join us.
05:41Yeah, technically you should stand up.
05:42Okay.
05:43And just kind of, like, arms up in a V.
05:46Yes!
05:47Chest to the sky, and just, like, just breathe for a second.
05:51I feel like I'm in a cult.
05:52Yeah.
05:53I feel like I'm in a cult.
05:53So you feel, like, a little bit more confident, a little bit more, like, joyful?
05:57I do!
05:58Yeah!
05:58Yeah!
05:59Okay, it worked.
06:01It worked.
06:01It worked.
06:02That was an Oprah.
06:03I love that.
06:04It worked.
06:06Yeah.
06:09So, thank you very much for the power pose.
06:11James McAvoy, you've just directed your first film.
06:13Did, yes.
06:14I'm very mad.
06:17Why this film?
06:18Why this?
06:19Oh, man, there's many, many reasons why this film.
06:21I knew I wanted to make films about people from lower-income backgrounds, council estates,
06:27or schemes, as we call them in Scotland, which is why we call it California Scheming.
06:33And there was just nothing coming in that was getting me excited that was going to be
06:36funny and entertaining, as well as about the realities of coming from that kind of community.
06:40And then California Scheming came along, and it just did everything that I needed to do.
06:45It had so much heart.
06:47It had so much comedy.
06:49It had so much pathos.
06:50But then it was also kind of about one of the reasons that I think we maybe don't have
06:54more Scottish films more regularly.
06:56And that, to me, was just like a perfect package.
06:59Unbelievably, it is a true story.
07:02Tell everybody what it's about.
07:04Two young guys from Dundee, extremely talented rappers, ninja rappers.
07:09And they answered a big casting call for a big record labelled down in London, back in
07:13the early noughties, like 2002, 2003.
07:16And they got about halfway through one of their excellent tracks, and they got stopped and
07:21laughed at.
07:22And they were labelled as the rapping proclaimers.
07:27And so they took...
07:28Yeah, right.
07:29So they were devastated.
07:29But they took the note and they went, we've got it.
07:32Sacrifice our integrity.
07:33Sacrifice our authenticity.
07:35Sacrifice everything that is important to the culture of hip-hop, which is the streets
07:39that made you.
07:40And they came back as Americans.
07:42And they basically became method actors.
07:44It's unbelievable.
07:45Oh, my God.
07:46They came back as method actors, and they re-recorded all their tracks.
07:50They didn't change the tracks.
07:51It was the same music, just with an American accent.
07:54And they got a record deal for tens of thousands of pounds.
07:56Oh, my God.
07:57They cut six albums.
07:58They supported Eminem, D12.
08:00They played all over the country.
08:01They were on MTV umpteen times, with the plan that when they were making it big enough,
08:06they would go on, in their minds, Jonathan Ross, and they would come out and expose the
08:11industry for being, I don't know, obsessed with the norm.
08:14Yeah, right.
08:15And then, of course, that didn't quite happen.
08:17And they got into the fame.
08:18And it was two and a half years of being in character constantly.
08:22And I don't know if you know any method actors, but it's not the best thing for your mental
08:26health, I wouldn't suggest.
08:27Do you reckon they were ever tickled?
08:31Because your real voice would surely come out.
08:33I'll fucking leave it alone, you bastard!
08:35I mean...
08:37Shall we have a look at the trailer?
08:39We would like to sign you.
08:42Get the bubbles.
08:44They actually think you're American.
08:45Yeah!
08:46But now your accents are pure shite.
08:48I know!
08:48We'll release a single and then we'll come out fully Scottish and expose those wanker.
08:52Killing a billy, smoking a billy, hotter than chillies.
08:55You know the dealy, leave me mad at my wine, it's like Millie Vanilla!
08:58Everyone loves you.
09:03I think I might have screwed him, you know?
09:06Let's go!
09:06You're sick of positions you're in.
09:08Sick of being kids and the rips in the gym.
09:11Sick of sticking and tricky predicament.
09:13Time to rip the script and go.
09:14Time to rip the script and go.
09:15Time to rip the script and go.
09:16Wow!
09:18That's it!
09:21Thank you, guys. Cheers.
09:22It's a really personal film to me, so I'm really glad that you have us on to talk about it.
09:28Thank you, Claudia.
09:28Well, I like the fact, not at all, that I read that you said sometimes the biggest thing in the
09:32room is an accent.
09:34Well, I think sometimes you're a person when you walk into a room, right?
09:38And you have infinite possibilities.
09:40You're capable of anything in the eyes of the people that you're with.
09:44And then whatever it is that makes you different sometimes just turns you into that thing only.
09:48And that becomes bigger than your potential, bigger than you as an individual.
09:53And I think for Scottish people, this isn't every room you walk into as a Scottish person.
09:56It's not every reaction I get.
09:58But I definitely walked into a room and suddenly I go from being somebody who might get the job.
10:04And suddenly I'm just a wee accent.
10:06And it becomes a bit reductive and they kind of just make you tiny and make you just that one
10:10thing.
10:11And that's sort of game over at that point.
10:13And look, I get it.
10:14Like, you know, there are people who suffer forms of discrimination way, way, way, way, way worse than that.
10:19But it's the voice of an entire nation that takes in many people of different colours, creeds, genders, sexualities, all
10:27sorts of things.
10:28And that voice, I think, sometimes gets reduced rather than being heard.
10:32For six million people, I'd love to see more Scottish films.
10:35Mm.
10:35That's great.
10:37I agree.
10:40Have you personally, have you personally ever been told to sort of turn it down?
10:47Oh, I've been literally told to turn it down.
10:49And I was playing a particularly famous Scottish role as a Scottish person and was, you know, was asked to
10:58do it as a Scottish person, which was great.
11:00Brilliant.
11:00And I'm in rehearsals and the director said to me, I won't do his accent because it's reductive.
11:06Even though if you paid me, I would.
11:09How much do you need?
11:10Yeah, exactly.
11:12I ain't cheap, Claudia.
11:15And he goes, just so you know, James, every now and again, when we're on the day, I might just
11:19ask you to.
11:20And I was like, what do you mean?
11:21He meant Scotty.
11:24Scotty.
11:25Scotty.
11:25Scotty.
11:25Scotty.
11:25And he did that voice as well and I was just like, what a walloper.
11:29Wow.
11:29Yeah.
11:30What a walloper.
11:32That's a very good word.
11:33How did you find directing for the first time and acting?
11:38Because I imagine that is, that's juggling.
11:40I wouldn't wish directing and acting on my worst enemy.
11:43When I see people at Bradley Cooper or whatever play big, huge lead in roles in the director, I'm like,
11:47you must have a self-harming thing, you know?
11:50Yeah, it was a nightmare.
11:52It was like, you'd literally be going like, oh, I need more love or I need more comedy or I
11:56just need more connection or whatever.
11:58And somebody's listening and you're going like, we can't get the port-a-loos for tomorrow.
12:01So we have to change the location because if anybody needs a shit, we won't be able to make it
12:08happen.
12:09And you're like, OK, OK, if you could just have more love in your eyes right now.
12:15And actually, where's the nearest shitter?
12:17Yeah, it was mental.
12:19And then you're having to go and act.
12:20And then you're on your weight, you're marked, somebody's giving you more chat about the port-a-loos.
12:24And it was, it was a lot.
12:26I had no idea that the director has to deal with the toilet facilities.
12:29There was a lot of talk about, there was a lot of talk about toilets.
12:35I like the fact that you, because you didn't have the biggest budget, you were careful and you had to
12:41fill a stadium, right?
12:42Or you had to fill a huge venue of 2,000 people.
12:452,000 people at the Battlelands, yeah.
12:46It was amazing.
12:47And we, like, you know, I did Atonement, which had, I don't know, tens of millions in the budget.
12:52And we could only manage, like, what is it, 1,000 extras on that?
12:55And we needed 2,000, which would have cost us.
12:57I was informed one day, maybe offhand, that it was 350 grand, which we couldn't do.
13:02So we ended up putting on a gig ourselves, Roddy and Tommy, Roddy Hurt and Tommy Riley,
13:07who are amazing musicians and composers up in Glasgow, put together a sort of local super band.
13:12We advertised it and we got 2,000 Glaswegians to come.
13:16Wow.
13:16And dressed in the naughty's outfits, put the phones away and jam out to this amazing naughty's gig that we
13:22put on with this Glasgow super band.
13:24And then, if you would, stay for a couple of tracks from our boys.
13:28And we thought, you know, we'll get a couple of takes and five cameras and we'll get as much as
13:32we can.
13:33And the Glasgow crowd stayed for two hours and our boys just ended up putting on a real gig and
13:38it was electric.
13:39That's so great.
13:39It was amazing.
13:40And they do this thing in Glasgow, I don't know if they did it back then, but they do this
13:44thing in Glasgow at gigs
13:45where we go, if we appreciate what you do, we shout, can I swear?
13:50Yeah.
13:50You can bleep it out.
13:51We shout en masse, 2,000 people, here we, here we, here we fucking go.
13:55Here we, here we, here we fucking go.
13:57And they just chant it at the singers and they did it for our boys.
14:00And so, even though I don't think it was the right time period for that, we stuck it in the
14:04film.
14:05Yeah.
14:05It was just...
14:06You can't not put that in the movies.
14:09It's too good.
14:09I don't think you know that this was a movie about rappers, but, um, maybe my agents didn't get to
14:17you.
14:19I do spit some flow, James.
14:21Have you got some fat bars?
14:24I have some fat bars.
14:25I mean, you're asking us to ask you to spit some right now?
14:28Yes.
14:29Are you good?
14:29Can you spit?
14:30I'm going to spit some flow right now.
14:31Shall I spit some flow?
14:37I might need audience participation, so...
14:40What do you need us to do?
14:41And I just want to put into brackets, we haven't been drinking.
14:44I know.
14:45I need a beat.
14:49You drew a picture of my morning, but you couldn't make my day.
14:51I'm walking in your nine, but you never looked my way.
14:54I'm looking down, you dialing in every single eight.
14:56Your funny flow is gone, and your blue cup's on the way.
14:58This ain't got shit to do with shampoo, so watch your head and shoulder.
15:01You're the older, bold enough to fold your yo.
15:03I told you.
15:04I'm right afraid of what I made and played it for some funky trips.
15:06So say you're flippin' big.
15:07Put that music in the funky bits.
15:09Drink up from the grill town, ill town.
15:10So that's how it feels now.
15:12The deals that were real, so we're still around.
15:14The lamp with your freestyle phantom ain't tryin' to be handsome.
15:17Think of what you're thinkin' cause I'm vampin'.
15:19I live and die for hip hop.
15:20This is hip hop for today.
15:21I give props to hip hop.
15:22So hip hop, hooray!
15:35Oh my.
15:37I mean, in the sequel.
15:39There's gotta be a sequel now.
15:40In the sequel, yes.
15:41I think you can bring the mother in.
15:43Rito Wilson, I did not know that was coming.
15:46I am delighted with it.
15:48Yes.
15:49James, tell me.
15:51When the movie's out.
15:52The movie is coming out on April the 10th,
15:56nationwide and all across Ireland as well.
15:59So, yeah, please get yourselves along.
16:01We're really proud of it.
16:02We definitely will.
16:06Um, Rita, we're gonna talk about your album,
16:12but first, just because Rita produced Mamma Mia,
16:15I don't know about you.
16:17One of the producers.
16:18Tell me, is number three coming?
16:20How a share of people sown dungarees.
16:23Fill us in.
16:24OK.
16:25Well, um, all right, let me just say this, that...
16:29Tell us the truth.
16:30There...
16:30No.
16:31There will always be discussions about a third Mamma Mia
16:34because who wouldn't want a third Mamma Mia?
16:37That is the truth.
16:38Right?
16:41Pure Joy.
16:43It's a movie that has given people pure joy and happiness.
16:47I mean, it's just wonderful.
16:50So, yes, there are always discussions,
16:52but there's nothing definitively to announce.
16:55OK.
16:56Thank you so much.
16:59Here's the thing.
17:00The Greek government loved you for doing it so much,
17:03they put your face on a stamp.
17:04That is true.
17:05I think we have...
17:06Yes.
17:07Wow.
17:12Look at that.
17:13I mean...
17:14It's still...
17:15I also like it because it's quite bridal.
17:17It's really...
17:18Isn't it?
17:19It's very bridal.
17:20It's divine.
17:21But you know what's interesting is I can't get out of my head,
17:25though, this image of people licking the back of my head.
17:31It's just so strange.
17:33You need it to actually happen so that you can exercise.
17:35Yeah.
17:36Could you...
17:36Get ready.
17:37Let's go.
17:40Wow.
17:41That feels good.
17:42That feels good.
17:43Elmett?
17:44Elmett.
17:44Do you think...
17:45Do you think the Queen and Philip ever did that?
17:49Yeah.
17:50So, Rita, you're about to release your sixth studio album.
17:54I have it here.
17:55Sound of a Woman.
18:01You said it's your most revealing album yet, I believe.
18:06What do you mean by that?
18:07It is.
18:07It's about different phases of a woman's life, you know.
18:11It's...
18:11As we come into the world, as young girls were labelled,
18:15we're, you know, oh, what a sweet young girl,
18:17what a sassy teen, oh, now you're a good worker,
18:20a good student, or you're a girlfriend or a wife or a mother
18:25or something.
18:26And all of those things are parts of who we are,
18:29but they're not exactly everything that we are.
18:31Look, it's like you're shedding all those images.
18:34Don't you feel like at a certain point in your life,
18:36like I'm at the age right now where I just don't care
18:38what anybody thinks.
18:39Yeah.
18:39I don't care what anybody thinks.
18:40I've earned that, right?
18:42Yeah.
18:43Everybody should earn it at any point in your life.
18:46It should, really.
18:47It shouldn't just be, well, you know, I've gotten to this age.
18:52And I don't believe that there is a clock on creativity.
18:55Like, at what point does somebody say, oh, I'm so sorry,
18:59yeah, you were supposed to do that at 29 and three quarters
19:02years old and that time has passed.
19:04Yeah.
19:05Who's to say it?
19:05We're only limited, really, by our own perceptions or beliefs
19:09about what we tell ourselves.
19:11Yeah.
19:11Absolutely.
19:17The album is called The Sound of a Woman.
19:20Right.
19:21What is the sound of a woman?
19:23That's my question.
19:25Is it hip-hop?
19:25I'm going to ask you that question.
19:27Is it what?
19:27Is it hip-hop?
19:28It's definitely hip-hop.
19:30The sound of a woman, I think, is just shh.
19:32Exactly.
19:33I say that quite a lot.
19:34My husband has an idea.
19:36We've heard that a lot.
19:37Exactly.
19:38He's not.
19:39That's another one.
19:40He's not.
19:41He's not.
19:41That's another one.
19:41Here, Claude, I've got a...
19:42A bum.
19:43A bum.
19:44A bum.
19:44A bum.
19:45Yeah, go make the bed.
19:46Make him do his homework.
19:48No more words.
19:49One of my favourite noises a woman's ever made, I was in...
19:52Wow.
19:53Wait a minute.
19:54Wow.
19:54Wow.
19:55I saw a lady see Johnny Depp in the street,
20:01this is probably about 20 years ago, in the noise.
20:02I'll never do it justice, but she saw it and went,
20:04ehhh.
20:05And it was...
20:06It was so just...
20:09And you could sort of see it happening as he's walking down,
20:11various women, ehhh.
20:12And he was just sort of gliding down the street,
20:15just causing various noises.
20:17Um, I could do something, but it's filthy.
20:19Do it.
20:20Just do it right now before.
20:21No, no, no.
20:25I...
20:31Everybody
20:33Everybody...
20:38I was just making conversation.
20:40No, no.
20:42You're doing it.
20:42I tell you what I can do, I can do an extraordinary...
20:45But it's audio only, horse impression.
20:49Do you want to go around the back so that we can only hear you?
20:53And I have used it in foreplay
21:03Just imagine wedding night 28 years guys
21:08Ready okay. Are you coming to bed? Hmm. Yes. I get pretend hooves on I don't
21:18I
21:28That is the sound of a woman
21:37Let us have a look at your video. Oh good. This is jury of one out today
21:48So I know that I know that I'm confused
21:53Pleading for forgiveness
21:55But there really is no use
21:59After everything I've done
22:04There's a jury of just one
22:07And it's me
22:11Sorry
22:17And it's out today
22:19That song is called jury of one because it's about feeling guilty
22:23You're always guilty like if you're working
22:25You feel guilty that you're not at home and with the kids or with your family
22:29And then if you're
22:31With your kids and the family at home you're thinking creatively like oh gosh I feel bad that I'm not
22:35working there
22:36And I think that guilt has a twin sister called apology
22:39Yeah and apology is like women we say I'm sorry all the time for all sorts of things like
22:44Somebody could kick me in the knee and I'd be like I'm so sorry my knee was in the way
22:48Yeah, okay. I'm a fan of both guilt and apology
22:52Exactly
22:53I am I quite I'm I'd never mean it
22:55No
22:57You know I mean that's when they're getting it wrong
23:00I'm so sorry
23:03Just filling in some space
23:07I'm joking unless I did you wrong which I'm very sorry
23:10No I am
23:12I am
23:13One of the songs is called marriage you have been married for 38 years we have a couple here who
23:20are getting married
23:21Hello there they are
23:26I believe are you getting married in like a week?
23:30Yes, how are you gonna celebrate?
23:33We're getting married in Nottingham
23:34And our reception is at a water park
23:38That's a great location
23:40Yeah, yeah water parks
23:41Guys you are being too polite
23:43I'm imagining her in a mail
23:43I'm sorry
23:44I can't do this
23:46Listen
23:46Have you have you put down the deposit?
23:51Deposits are paid
23:52Have you
23:52But have you ever been to Aqualand in Benador?
23:57No
23:58Like you don't even have to go on the rides to have fun
24:01One of the best things is when you watch a big northern man go down a flume
24:09It's just
24:10Because
24:13Sometimes the trunks arrive before the man
24:16It's that kind of group
24:17But they look like haunted babies
24:20They just hear them
24:22It's too fast Linda
24:23It's too fast like everything
24:25It's
24:25It's
24:26But if your marriage
24:27Is
24:28Has as many highs as that water park has given me
24:31Oh yeah
24:31And I'm sure you can have a blessed blessed life
24:33Yeah
24:34Are you wearing a bikini and a veil?
24:36Like what's your outfit?
24:37No
24:38It's TBC whether I'll actually go down there
24:40Oh really?
24:41OK
24:41Are you going down?
24:43Yeah
24:44Hold it high
24:45You know
24:46I meant
24:47I wasn't
24:49I meant
24:50I meant
24:50I meant
24:54I meant
24:56I meant
24:59And congratulations again
25:01The answer
25:01Longevity
25:02What's the answer?
25:03The answer is
25:03Don't get divorced
25:07Very long marriage. Stay married. Yeah. Thank you very much. And also, don't watch box sets apart.
25:15Oh, yeah. I think that's very good. No binge cheating. Yeah. Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. No
25:20binge cheating.
25:21Rita, when is this out? Please tell us. The album is out May 1st. The two singles, Michelangelo and
25:28Sound of a Woman are out and Jury of One today. Oh, lovely. Thank you.
25:35And Claudia, I should mention this because I forget that I'm going to be touring in the UK and Europe
25:42in November.
25:43This is perfect. Yes. It's really good. It's really good. Thank you.
25:50Rita. Yes. A slight bone to pick with you. All right. You enjoy camping. Yeah. I love camping.
25:57But do you mean camping as in, we're coming, pitch up the tent and bring me a pet giraffe or
26:02are you...
26:04I don't know. I've never come. No. Or you're like driving and you're making a stove?
26:10Yes. We have one of those vans that is, you know, kitted out with a bed and a kitchen and
26:16everything.
26:16And there's nothing better than cooking in the outdoors. It is so fantastic. Like, I don't know.
26:22There's something about being under the stars and there's a lovely little...
26:26Lovely. ..toilet in there. So it's very civilised. It's very civilised.
26:30Is it one of those where you have that blue liquid and you have to...
26:34No. They're very high tech now. Oh, are they? Very, very high tech.
26:37So, you know what I mean? It's that weird... Yeah, exactly.
26:40Yeah, exactly. ..graspery's great and then you're like...
26:42Terrible.
26:44You might work in a way you shine.
26:46No, it's beautiful and it's really, really great.
26:50Yeah, but it is that, sometimes you're like...
26:53And that blue liquid.
26:53Your friend's coming in in a minute. She's making the horse noises.
26:58That can't kill the moon!
27:03I haven't camped for a while but I remember I was about 23, I was down in New Zealand.
27:08It was amazing and I barely saw another living soul the whole time I did it.
27:10That was just backpacking? Backpacking and campings.
27:12Wow, that's... And I'm in the middle of the Coromando,
27:16subtropical rainforest and it's night time and there's possums, right?
27:19And the possums rustle around and do all that kind of stuff.
27:21I just got so scared this one night that I got my gas lamp on
27:26and I turned my gas lamp on to cast shadows on my tent
27:29and I got my little, like, Swiss army knife
27:31and I got every little attachment on it and I was like...
27:34Come on now!
27:35You see me?
27:37You see me?
27:37I've got... I'm... I'm... I'm carrying!
27:40Tune up your bus!
27:42So...
27:42With tweezers?
27:44Yeah, I know, I know.
27:45There's a torch and a pen!
27:48Gugu, do you camp?
27:49You know, I didn't really grow up camping.
27:51Only child problems.
27:54But, um...
27:54But no, I'm a bit of a beginner.
27:56You know, I did camp for the first time a couple of years ago
28:00on a trip climbing up Mount Kilimanjaro.
28:03Oh, wow!
28:04That was kind of...
28:05You went from zero to 90.
28:07I know, I know.
28:08And I was...
28:09Yeah, I kind of, you know, obviously it's like six, seven days
28:12and altitude and all of that and, you know, being a beginner
28:15I was like, what about, you know, being comfortable and, you know,
28:18I was really...
28:19I'd maybe glamped, you know, or something.
28:22Yes, right.
28:22So I brought, like...
28:23I bought one little luxury which was, like, my little goose pillow.
28:27Oh, yeah.
28:28That's smart.
28:28And I took that up but, um...
28:29Everybody...
28:30Everybody laughed at me.
28:31Uh, you don't camp.
28:32I can see that face.
28:33Well, just because...
28:34We used to go camping loads because we didn't have any money
28:36when we were younger.
28:37So, the first time you get into a hotel, it's just incredible.
28:42Oh.
28:42Like, have you been wiping your ass with a leaf?
28:44And then suddenly this toilet roll and, like, little pots of jam
28:49that you can steal?
28:50Yeah!
28:50Come on.
28:51I'm good.
28:52Exactly.
28:53Don't get this in the woods.
28:55Gugu, we have something in common.
28:57You have a trampoline.
28:58I bought a trampoline.
28:59Oh, yeah.
29:00Yeah.
29:01Who told you to get a trampoline?
29:02You know, my friend, Sarah, at the beginning of lockdown,
29:06um, took me to this trampoline class in LA
29:09and I was like, this is amazing!
29:11Like, it's so kind of ridiculous but actually really difficult.
29:16But kind of fun, too.
29:16And really fun.
29:17And I think, you know, and so as soon as, like, Covid hit,
29:20I ordered a trampoline because I felt like, you know,
29:22you do, like, three or four bounces on a trampoline
29:25and you feel like six years old.
29:26I bought a little trampoline.
29:28But with a handle.
29:29Because I'm 54.
29:30Yes.
29:30Yes.
29:31Yes.
29:32Start with the handle.
29:33Yeah.
29:34You hold the handle.
29:35I haven't taken out of it.
29:36You also look like you're riding your own horse.
29:38Yeah, yeah.
29:40Birthdays and Christmas, baby.
29:44Too much.
29:45I have a harness.
29:47No biggie.
29:47Um.
29:48It's the most fun.
29:49It's the most fun.
29:50Yeah.
29:50Do you know, we have the Olympic gold medalist,
29:54the best at trampolining in the world.
29:55Bryony, you're here.
29:56What?
29:57Oh, my God!
30:03Thank you for being with us.
30:05Um.
30:06Gugu loves trampolining and it is, it's been proven to be like...
30:10The best.
30:11The best exercise.
30:11But yeah, so trampolining is so much fun, like you've already said.
30:15Um, it can make you feel like a superhuman.
30:16Yeah.
30:17So if you're jumping on the floor, really limited, you can only jump so high, but as soon as you
30:21get on that trampoline and you're working really hard, training hard, you can go up to
30:2410 metres in the air.
30:25You're flying in the air for like two seconds long and you're super thrilling.
30:30You get to flip around and somersault and it feels like you're riding a roller coaster.
30:34I half remember, because I remember nothing in my life.
30:37I half remember somebody telling me that bouncing has a particular sort of physiological benefit.
30:42Is that right or did I make that up one time?
30:43No, definitely.
30:44So I think it was Nasser that said if you do 30 minutes on a trampoline, sorry, 10 minutes
30:50on a trampoline is like 30 minutes running.
30:52Yeah.
30:52But also very good for court.
30:53It just makes us all happy.
30:55Let's all get trampoline.
30:55Yeah.
30:56After the show we're going to trampoline park.
30:58Yeah.
30:59It's really fun.
31:00Yeah.
31:02Now, Gugu, we're going to talk about the film.
31:03Called Fuse.
31:05Tell us what it's about.
31:07It's a heist action thriller set in London and yeah, I play a police officer in it.
31:14There's a discovery of a unexploded World War II bomb in London and it's kind of a race
31:20against time to evacuate the city.
31:23But also there's kind of a twist in it as well.
31:26And in that there's a, well, I don't want to give it away, but it's a very kind of gripping
31:32heist thriller and it's with Aaron Taylor Johnson, Theo James, myself, Sam Worthington
31:38and Saffron Hawkins.
31:39What a good cast.
31:40Let us have a clip, please.
31:41Oh, good.
31:42We detected a heat signature in Cyber Gordon.
31:44We need to investigate.
31:46We think people could still be there.
31:49Right, the police have detected an unidentified heat source.
31:57Chief Superintendent, what's going on?
31:58Sorry, Major, but we've had to send a car in.
32:01We relay police radio now to keep you in the loop.
32:03I'm going to put a very dangerous procedure.
32:06I haven't even finished the mitigation wall, which means if the bomb detonates, I don't even
32:10have to tell you how bad that's going to be.
32:11I understand major, but we can't risk injury to the public. We'll be as quick as we can.
32:23You shadowed police officers, didn't you?
32:26Yeah, and learnt a lot about the work they do. Yeah, I mean my character is chief superintendent and she
32:31is
32:31Her role is what's running gold in the command control center
32:35So I got to visit some command control centers in London and in Essex and talk to some high-ranking
32:41female
32:42Police officers of which there are still very few so it was really interesting sort of being in those control
32:48centers
32:48Seeing those cameras of London, you know at the switch of a button you can see pretty much any street
32:55or view in London
32:56Which is kind of comforting and kind of chilling
32:59But but no it was really really interesting to kind of learn about that work as I say
33:04Because to be able to have that, you know
33:06Perspective from from real police officers was really really helpful. So when can we watch fuse? Oh, it's out today.
33:13Perfect
33:13Okay, I love the fact we were chatting earlier and you said
33:20Your favorite thing is when you're acting is watching the person who is acting right in front of like sometimes
33:25you're and I love when I
33:27When you're so in or yeah, man
33:29Sometimes like sometimes really good acting just makes it all seem seamless and all that kind of stuff
33:33Sometimes you're working with somebody who's just does something so good. You're like
33:37Yeah, oh my god
33:39And then you drop your line and you mess up the whole scene and you mess them up
33:42But I quite often find myself with really good actors just like most thing along with you
33:48And they'll be like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm sorry. Well, I'm just in the same with you.
33:52You're like you're mouthing my lanes
33:55I'm just like preparing my mind
33:57um, but yeah, I've messed a couple of actors up by doing that
34:01Yeah, but how amazing to be because you're nodding you must oh no
34:04Yeah, I remember I did a movie called it's complicated with Meryl Streep and you're looking at this person. You're
34:11like
34:12It's Meryl Streep
34:13I can't believe it's Sophie from Sophie's Choice
34:18And then you just have to kind of become a professional and do your thing but it that first few
34:22moments is definitely
34:25Distracted. I was like that with your husband. Oh, really not that we acted together
34:29But like I would go in and say no, he wouldn't let me
34:34I
34:34I just say who your husband is just tell the group
34:39You're married to
34:40So, you know
34:44I'm sorry to have to tell you this but then you have all this and be married to Tom Hanks
34:48Yes, I am and I
34:54Why do this thing sometimes when I get around famous people when they can I go like hey, what's up?
34:59What you gonna get for lunch and they've just been totally normal and I'm like I
35:01I feel so uncomfortable
35:04And I go into this weird sort of over like almost put on working-class
35:10I'm like all right, man. I know. I'm gonna get some chips
35:12I drive a Pinto
35:16How would you drive a Ferrari? I'm growing up. I'm gonna get some bread with butter
35:23Get some caviar and I don't know why that happens. Yeah, of course. I don't like it
35:28It's a bit like we know when you really fancy somebody
35:31Yeah, but early on, you know with the first person I found somebody so badly when I was 17
35:35He was speak to me and I would just be sick
35:45I
35:47Went to see Rufus Wainwright's
35:49I'm a big fan of and
35:51He invited me to go out for dinner with him. She went for dinner. It was really exciting. You know,
35:55you saw you meet your hero and then you're up in tea
35:57Yeah, I had some spare jam
36:02Yeah, he had some toilet paper
36:05But we were sort of hanging out and then he said oh, do you want to go and hang out
36:09with my friend Carrie?
36:10So yeah, sure so then we come meet Carrie and it was Carrie Fisher
36:13Oh
36:14So I'm suddenly in this insane I'm around Carrie Fisher's house and her dog was eating ice cream and she
36:21was about with us was not with
36:22Yeah, he wasn't doing that I naturally did the vibe
36:30so anyway, so we were sort of just drinking and that Carrie wasn't but me and Rufus were blah blah
36:35blah and
36:36Then they they found out that I was a stand-up comedian and they were both like do some car
36:42Yeah, and I was one eye you can't is that really it doesn't work like I just and I'm trying
36:46to explain that
36:47She's like just go into the bathroom. Come out
36:49How are we here?
36:54Yeah, yeah
36:56But so I I kind of desperately thought right this idea I had of like human beings blame animals for
37:02our weird behavior
37:03I'm like I've never seen a rat snitch. I've never seen a badger badger. I've never seen an elephant in
37:08a room go. I know
37:11Catfish is my favorite, you know catfish someone goes online. It tends to be someone else. They don't do that
37:17They're not in the sea go show us your tits. I'm a dolphin
37:21Yeah, yeah, yeah
37:24That's a silent
37:27Carrie Fisher aka Princess Legos people paying money for this
37:33Well, you know occasionally and I was just I love that you become the Evans. Oh, yeah
37:41But it was for whatever reason stand-up is as soon as you're told to do it. Yeah, it's gone
37:46You've started taking your family on tour with you. I haven't you because you're doing this massive tour. Yes
37:52You're going with your wife and you're 19 month old. Yes. I've been in stand-up for 28 years
37:56Yeah, but sort of traveling with those two just makes it really fun again because then you get to kind
38:02of like we're going to
38:03Manchester this weekend and there's a transport museum. They say there's a there's a lego land and
38:09He's really into diggers like he loves
38:11Oh, they love
38:12So we're we so but basically but I've got these I've got like six gigs and yet the highlight
38:20Is the transport museum because I know it's going to blow his mind
38:23I don't know it's that but it's that funny thing of like nothing prepares you for how excited your kids
38:28get yeah about
38:29Baffling stuff. Yeah, we've got we've got like a little stick if I push the stick around
38:35Like my son's like daddy hoover daddy hoover
38:39And that makes me happy because he's happy so I know I'm now like this just I'm so eager but
38:45it's got to that stage
38:45I'm like daddy hoover daddy
38:48It's like oh that was so yesterday
38:53You know you're about to go on stage
38:55Thousands of people laugh. Yeah anyone who knows a 19 month old try and make them smile sometimes it happens
39:01But you I mean you have to work hard. Yeah to make them laugh right when they're six months you
39:06do a fake sneeze
39:07They giggle you're like come on and they get to about two and you're like do you find this funny?
39:14Yeah, that's not actually what a sheep sounds like
39:18A horse in the other hand
39:21A horse I hold my beard
39:25The tour is called don't tell the algorithm. Yes, I love that title. Will you change your material? Oh, yeah
39:31as you go
39:31Particularly if you're traveling in Europe and you I remember being in Norway
39:34They've got a phrase called vent the pulse, which is it translates as a waiting sausage
39:40So if you keep a norwegian waiting
39:43They will eat a hot dog and I just think it's such a funny excuse for gluttony
39:48Like you know, well if you force me to linger I ate a pork finger
39:54And it's this that in that moment
40:01But it's it's that thing that that that that wouldn't be funny if you were doing it in in halifax
40:06But that night if you if you're I don't know no, no, no, but
40:09But if you're able to kind of really be in a place and the audience can tell you know, oh
40:15my god
40:15This is happening now this he's not fake it. It really does something
40:19It's kind of and if you can blend it with material and actually be there and
40:23Improvise it's you can you get into that kind of flow state and it's the best. I love it so
40:28much
40:28Really? I think I'm a lifer
40:30I haven't found anything through which I can do life more than stand-up
40:34Is it true that Billy Connolly made you want to be a stand-up?
40:38Yeah, I think so
40:38I just remember watching my dad howl and and he was like, I think billy connolly was like for a
40:43certain generation like this fire
40:45In the corner of the country where we'd kind of warm ourselves around and you'd see your dad laughing your
40:50mum was laughing your uncle
40:51Whatever and I was so intrigued by this kind of like
40:55This guy I was I imagine trying to be that and then I got to interview him
40:59Which was I'm talking to god and then kind of making him laugh
41:04Wild and it's such a sweet
41:06Just you know
41:08Beautiful man. Oh, yeah, I could talk about him for hours. I love him
41:11But I imagine everyone in Scotland feels the same
41:13When you've got a nickname call him the big one the big one the big man. Yeah
41:19Begin. Yeah, the big and that's that's a good email address. Yeah
41:24It is it promises a lot
41:29Just say everything's about expectations
41:33Especially if he's at hotmail
41:40Oh
41:42Russell how can people see the top they can see it?
41:45It's all over the country all over England and Ireland and
41:49Scotland
41:50Until November
41:52Thank you very much
42:09It's going on
42:11Wait, I need to get you a microphone
42:12I was a bit keen, sorry
42:14Um, I was just wondering
42:16What advice you have if you're having a conversation with someone and then they start going on their phone while
42:21you're talking to them?
42:22What do you do?
42:24I think most people stay married to them
42:26for quite a long time
42:29But
42:34That says they go slagging my wafer off
42:36No, it doesn't
42:57I'm not
42:57Thank you
42:58Thank you
43:09Thank you
43:09Thank you
43:10Thank you
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