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00:04so my family we grew up very very sheltered very wholesome very simple but then things really
00:11changed i really don't like change you've told me you can't accept how our values don't align
00:17then i don't see the future with us together you know my older brother my parents we are moving
00:23forward with a divorce no family's perfect we've all just changed one way or another for better or
00:30worse it's the first year's relationship i've had since olivia i most definitely am in love with tegan
00:36he's it he's the one how can you explain falling in love with someone you know what i mean
00:41my name is zach great to meet you i can't wait to just be hopefully engaged by the end of
00:48the day
00:48will you marry me please say no yes my whole family feels uncomfortable nobody is really happy
00:58other than my dad i got the memo be the dad that lydia wants you to be i feel like
01:04barry wants
01:05everybody to like him i think that's why he signed off on the marriage so quickly wow we're getting
01:11married what was going on with veronica and micah that was really not good you're not emotionally
01:18intelligent grow a pair you're talking so far down to me veronica sees a headline and she says
01:24your brother's girlfriend has an only fancy he wants to see it i was concerned about the wedding
01:31itself and then veronica just kind of pushed me over the edge
01:37nobody around is the full extent of how crazy it was i think we need to leave go back to
01:42boca
01:43and i i we are done ethan couldn't get over the fact that he thinks zach is gay talk about
01:50lack of
01:50any respect for someone's wedding especially your sisters and we need to have a conversation with
01:57with him at some point we just felt very very disrespected
02:17growing up as an only child i always wanted a large family healthy fresh air lots of music and lots
02:24of
02:24love and i wanted to share that with people it was beautiful the farm was the perfect place for all
02:35of
02:36those things to come together and the farm has always been the place we all come back to
02:52which is why after years away i've finally returned
02:58peter is feeling playful i've moved back here with the girls we have two dogs three kittens and we're
03:04finally settled i didn't want to live at the farm during the divorce because it was hard to be so
03:11close to barry knowing that if i had to go run errands i might see him but now the divorce
03:17is done
03:18and i'm back home and i'm reclaiming my life have you ever seen anything cuter than this
03:24yes he's so cute look at this one he's cuter
03:32i'm here with the girls half the time and the other half the time they're with barry
03:36and somebody else lives here with us too who is that
03:45ken
03:45for the first couple years after barry and i separated i just wasn't sure exactly what i wanted
03:57and i couldn't be serious about somebody when i was legally still married to somebody else
04:02so ken and i broke up a few months before lydia's wedding but then when the divorce was finalized
04:09like we realized that we did want to be with each other
04:17when ken moved in we wanted it to feel like it's his home too and so we let him decorate
04:23it however
04:23he wanted and he even brought a jukebox
04:28mercy has learned the synthesizer part to jump by van halen from listening to the jukebox and it's
04:37definitely different than when we lived at the farm years ago we didn't have a jukebox playing 80s
04:43classic rock come here lexi i'm definitely happy i'm back it isn't perfect and i've made lots of
04:51mistakes but lucky me i've got lots of people willing to tell me when i mess something up
05:07what did you think of church this morning oh it was so good yeah just a little laundry to do
05:14i think
05:14the rest of the house is pretty much in order okay sides for this stuff okay
05:21what was that it was just the phone case so we've known each other over a year now
05:29we made it these are just all your shirts right i think you have a few figures oh that one's
05:36mine
05:37that someone's different here what's going on yeah so i i have decided to go with contacts because
05:45because after he got married i just kept smudging them up so he smudged up his glasses how did you
05:51smudge up his glasses i wonder anyway this is our apartment it's everything we need we're able to
06:03host people play games and hang out because that's what we've always wanted to do is have people over
06:09and have a good time now what is it like for you going from living in a bachelor pad to
06:16with a wife
06:17it's nice to come home to a home that has been created by my wife i love having a reason
06:23to clean
06:24the home moving in together was so much easier than people made it out to be i don't think there
06:30are
06:30any things that like he does that annoys me he knows not to leave the toilet seat up he knows
06:36not to
06:37crowd the counter space because that's for me to do i'm truly surprised how well we adjusted to
06:44living together and just building a home together so be honest all right what is life like living with
06:52me as your wife amazing of course but after 10 p.m you um are on a different level
07:05is the honeymoon phase over yet nope zach sees a sign of me that no one else will ever see
07:12ever know
07:13about that's that i think i've uh not only introduced her but also watered the seed of of curiosity for
07:23her
07:24in this realm and so i think uh it's fun to see her and and me just like interact in
07:32those ways
07:34lydia zach just said you're naughty
07:38it's true
07:44dear lord thank you for this food thank you for this time together a wonderful day at church in your
07:49name
07:49amen amen all right all right so good the best part of marriage has just been being fully known and
08:00fully loved the best part of married life is definitely learning uh whether it's learning about
08:07lydia or learning about myself take your time and be who she needs and in times of need so
08:20we have two empty chairs i am excited to have start a family and everything with you and
08:28i like feel like i'm ready to be a mother i can agree yeah traveling's really fun with you though
08:37we still have a lot of places we want to go it's not that we're going to stop traveling when
08:42we have
08:42kids there'll just be fewer and far between and more special because there'll be more people to share with
08:48yeah so we got married in february it's been eight months and so we're planning to wait a year
08:54before we start a family four months left four months who's counting apparently you
09:02i love the idea of starting a family with you i'm ready we're just preparing our lives for another
09:09human being we don't want to you and we don't want to me
09:25i know mariah and micah are only in town for a limited time but we were hoping to have that
09:33conversation for the whole family and everything it's been eight months of zach and i praying
09:40sorting through everything and what happened leading up to the wedding
09:44i feel like you've been mistreated and in line about and that first year has been hard we just want
09:53to have one conversation with the whole family in one place there are so many assumptions made about
09:57both of us it did some damage and we've had to deal with that for the months that we've been
10:01married
10:03you're saving your first kiss for your wedding yeah how do you do that i gotta ask you yeah
10:10are you gay i know i'm i'm straight but we had to iron out those assumptions and then show each
10:21other
10:21that we actually cared for each other more than anything that anyone said about us i gotta learn
10:26what how to move forward in that so obviously want to be there to support you if you gotta
10:31teach your some stuff out and that so i don't think i have to figure anything out i think i
10:36just need
10:36to say a few things okay let's go let's go out of the kitchen i was living up in minnesota
10:57and then i
10:58moved down here to georgia in july i just wanted to have a change of scenery and be closer to
11:06family
11:06and everything so i've been down here getting the farm in shape building this barn and you know
11:13lots of land work cutting down trees mowing staying at the farm or at my dad's house depending on what
11:19i'm doing just seeing what it's like to live back down here are you divorced yet no she olivia will
11:29not
11:30call or respond do anything she's purposely trying to hold me up trying to make my life hell
11:38i believe olivia won't let me go um because she doesn't want to let me move on to anybody else
11:48i think that's her motive what's going on with tegan
11:57oh me and tegan uh broke up and i don't know
12:08i knew that she was tired a long distance and i kept telling her that i would move
12:15to wisconsin and i never did
12:20and you know you can only tell someone so many times i'm going to do this and you don't and
12:25it just
12:25doesn't mean anything
12:29me not being divorced yet still that's been extremely frustrating for me over the last year
12:36and definitely has affected me and tegan
12:41i've had an attorney for over a year now and olivia has ignored him said you know i'm out of
12:50the country
12:50i'll get back to you when i'm home and then weeks later when she comes back she never does anything
12:56so he has to start over get him trying nothing ever has happened
13:06sometimes in life you're lucky enough to meet somebody that you actually truly connect with
13:14like not just on a physical level but like a spiritual emotional level and that was very much
13:25true with me and tegan it's hard to move on i feel like i can't walk away and spend the
13:33rest of my life
13:34wondering if i could have saved it i really truly feel like there's unfinished business
13:45i think you'll save me
14:02hello hello lydia and zach want to sit down and talk to everybody i feel like they're coming here
14:10wanting an apology mom pretty much accused zach of being controlling and taking over
14:15desires i wanted for the wedding let's go know your daughter before you make accusations like that
14:23hug your brother i'm a little bit concerned about ethan because he can be pretty hot-headed
14:30and i could tell with zach lydia's found something really good let me just polish my halo you know
14:37i want you all to know the night before our wedding was actually the hardest night of my life
15:10i'm coming up here to see all my family i haven't seen them in a while been really busy
15:15oh i got a new go-kart you got it running no not yet i'm also coming to take a
15:21whole bunch of my stuff
15:22back down to florida because i finally have my own place your spare doesn't look any good ethan
15:27i'm gonna drive to mexico in this do you want to push me no after i broke up with veronica
15:32i knew i
15:33needed to make a change i met a pretty incredible girl and we are doing great and we are happy
15:42keeping
15:43things somewhat private you know kind of evaluating everything that's happened over the last couple
15:49years um i don't think i was on the path for what i wanted and i'm gonna switch things up
15:55a little bit
15:55and just chase a peaceful life
16:01it looks like isaac made it
16:07yeah i will thanks for dropping me off
16:13kaylin dropped me off today everything's good between us still we've been together for just over
16:18a year now all right well i'll see you soon it's been a while since the wedding there were a
16:24few
16:24factors that led to things just being tense part of it was them rushing the wedding and us not
16:30really knowing zach well enough i didn't want to sit around and just let somebody walk into my
16:36family that wasn't going to treat my sister right because i've seen that happen
16:39before with my brother's ancestors and i've had it and i wasn't going to have it again
16:49hi hello hello
16:52i almost called you mercy mercy mercy lord have mercy long time
17:04amazing montana has been treating me very well very peaceful
17:09very happy you guys i'm so happy to be home you see what i've done this looks great
17:17isn't it crazy oh my gosh i love that it's open it feels really good to be back here
17:25for a while the farm just kind of felt like not abandoned but there was nothing really you know
17:31going on it was a rental property and it just had a different vibe to it
17:39now having mom living there it's it feels a lot more like home
17:44it's just a difference kind of special being able to come home now oh ethan
17:53do you like it i like it yeah looks good on you yeah thank you well it like this complements
17:59the
17:59shape of your head nicely thank you like yours yeah what's going on here i don't know
18:07oh i'm wearing a wig right now um i have alopecia an autoimmune condition that causes hair loss it
18:18started when i was little when it's really bad i have no eyebrows eyelashes no hair on my head
18:26that's what i'm dealing with right now these are just stickers no they're not yeah they're
18:32they're they're just literally cheap stickers that i got online and then i have four wigs that i kind
18:41of can play around with i'm working on making a collection of a lot of them let me see your
18:46nose
18:47pretty good isn't it yeah yeah did you actually get plastic surgery no oh okay no i just got i
18:54literally
18:55i went to the emergency room that one night got the stitches i pulled the stitches out myself and i'm
19:00fine my gosh that was quite a night lord yeah so what are we doing i'm on three hours of
19:07sleep i drove
19:07overnight lydia and zach are coming up here yeah lydia and zach want to have a meeting with us about
19:14their feelings or maybe i don't know yeah lydia and zach want to sit down and talk to everybody
19:24but i have a lot on my heart and my mind me and tegan are broken up it's very hard
19:30to shake my focus
19:31off of that for anything i just feel like there was way too many emotions people got carried away yes
19:39to
19:40say the least
19:52how long has it been since we've been to the farm it's been a minute yeah i think it'll be
19:56good to
19:57have the whole family there to talk with everyone we're going to the farm we figured it was a good
20:06time because the whole family's in town pretty last minute but we just wanted to address um stuff
20:12around our wedding we had some pretty surprising things come our way when ethan asked if i was gay
20:20it was just very it didn't make sense i had proposed and you're asking if i'm even attracted to her
20:26like
20:26this is ridiculous i want to bring it to their attention that you know what they did
20:35did hurt us and you know they could have gone about it quite differently no when we were engaged i
20:43know there was a lot of people talking about zach and i and their concerns about us they said they
20:50were doing everything because they care in that care all i felt was hurt well i want you to know
20:57i
20:57want you to be happy and i'm very happy to see that you're happy but i just have to say
21:01it you've only
21:02known over three months and you get married in two months you sure you're good with that well four
21:07months if that matters it's too fast it's too much i feel like they're rushing into it we all feel
21:14pressured into having to accept somebody that we don't know how can lydia really know like how much
21:20of a provider you could be or if you'll take care of lydia just i can't take like much more
21:24i'm just
21:25gonna lose it yeah that guy really does pop in blue
21:32it's like hey this is something you did that affected us we want to move forward and this is
21:37this is something that is we feel is holding us back in our relationship with you because of how it
21:45hurt
21:49zach and lydia are coming i'm a little bit dreading it because i know that things were crazy at their
21:59wedding and i feel like they're coming here wanting an apology and i have mixed feelings about that because
22:07i am sorry that a lot of things happened the way they did at the same time i'm not sorry
22:16that we
22:19really cared last night lydia called us we asked her if she was okay with me and mercy being on
22:26the
22:26conversation and she said she didn't really see a need for us to be there i think they don't want
22:30us to
22:30hear what they have to say obviously i guess i am a little bit nervous about zach and lydia's
22:35expectations anything that was said or done before the wedding was coming from a place of love and
22:42concern about lydia we were concerned about her because there are crazy people out there and it's
22:46sad that you have to question everything but you really do yeah and with that timeline it's completely
22:53normal for us to have questions i mean just you know all of us have moved on moved forward and
23:01accepted zach as a brother-in-law a son-in-law whatever as part of the family including ethan and
23:08isaac and micah but i feel like zach and lydia haven't been able to move on
23:18i've been angry i've been really upset at my family for what they did there were nights on end
23:24that i would fall asleep crying and zach was just there to come for me because i was just hurt
23:29and i
23:29was just upset it took us a while to kind of approach this conversation we were frustrated we were
23:38scared of maybe not being accepted or loved dealing with all that at once took a long time
23:47i also wanted to be able to talk knowing what i wanted to say and not just getting all emotional
23:53and not having a direction it took eight months i'm not ashamed of that
24:02i've really been wrestling with it a lot what i would say how how i would say it
24:11i think some of the things they said just made me realize like
24:16they don't really know me and that hurts because you want to be known by your family
24:25i don't know if it's just me or if most of the family feels this way if it's just the
24:30middle child
24:30but i've always felt like overlooked second thought and i just felt that on my wedding day and that's just
24:39not what's supposed to be i know i need this to move forward and whatever happens from it i need
24:47to be okay with that i just know this is the step i need to take what are some things
25:01that you might
25:02want to address with your mom i mean definitely with what she had said about you being controlling
25:08i have no idea how this family meeting is going to go i need to address with mom
25:17just how she went about a few things like she pretty much accused zach of being controlling
25:22and taking over desires i wanted for the wedding yet she didn't even know what i had thought of
25:29i've seen um a usurping of lydia's desires where lydia wants something for the wedding and he just
25:36shoots it down because he has another plan in mind she said i wanted hunter green for my wedding
25:40which is a color i would never think of blue has always been both our favorite colors
25:45it's blue that's not and i gave my opinion but then said after i was like you know i i
25:53think blue
25:53looks best but i want you to make the decision because you're the bride and you know i think
25:59you know you have a better eye for those sorts of things and so i if anything i was completely
26:06letting her make the decision it was just yeah it's like know your daughter before you make accusations
26:30like that
26:31oh king of the world i'm king of the world
26:43what are you doing oh hello i'm just envisioning myself out on the golf clipping at 20 knots nothing
26:53but the the wind in my hair and the spray on my skin
27:00okay no i mean so yeah i was just checking it out that's all
27:07so uh have you found any uh prospective buyers micah bought it micah bought this yes i made him quite
27:15a deal on it i think he's gonna fix it up and sell it wow he sometimes pops up in
27:21random places like
27:22on the boat in the middle of the field i was giving myself a self-guided tour since you know
27:27years past i missed out on the tour that you've given others okay we're generally on good terms
27:35but i like him to call first before he shows up i mean that's something that i've kind of asked
27:41him to
27:41do i don't want to be in the house and look out the window and just see him there i
27:47want to know if
27:47i look out i'm going to see woods and birds maybe a deer i'm not going to see barry
27:55and he might see something he doesn't want to see
28:01i think lydia and zach are going to be here soon so
28:04do you want them to find you on the boat or do you want to come out closer to the
28:07house i'll
28:08i'll get down and i'll be over in a little bit okay well i'm going to go see the kids
28:15this is the first time all the family are going to be able to be together since the wedding
28:20i became aware of zach and lydia's challenges once they got back from europe how they were feeling
28:26during the wedding the night before the rehearsal all that i began to understand you know just how
28:33deeply lydia was feeling the hurt and the pain my role as father is to be lydia's validation and i
28:41know
28:41that i did that more so than any of the boys or kim all right main event all right here
28:55we are
29:14we got this we got this let's go
29:30we got this we got this let's go
29:40hi guys oh my goodness mariah oh my god
29:45i haven't seen you in forever no mariah first sorry
29:52you look so good although i probably see you today we're going to talk about some of the things
30:01that happened around the wedding and um kind of lydia and zach's feelings about all of the wedding
30:07drama and
30:12ken is inside working on his jukebox he asked me do you want me to sit in on this and
30:19i said well i
30:19think this is just going to be family
30:23it's my turn so let it burn
30:27i'm more of a quiet person i've heard both sides of the story i would rather be in the house
30:33watching the dogs i try to avoid drama as much as possible
30:44it is weird that you know ken's now at the house that i used to
30:52be head of the household over but you know it's like what do you say weird is the new norm
30:57so i'm
30:59just what do you do i'm just what do you do i'm used to weird
31:06go hug your brother-in-law
31:14hey how's it going
31:15doing good how are you doing good to see you
31:18i think we're all here this is the first time we've all this is all the siblings
31:23wow everybody's here this is a big conversation going into it i'm like you know lydia knows
31:30exactly what she's gonna say how we felt about things we're gonna control what we can control and
31:37whatever their reactions are we can't control you've been traveling yeah lydia and zach have been upset
31:45with me and ethan and really everyone because of everyone except barry because of how things played
31:52out at their wedding
31:56i mean i think they're wanting apologies do i think it's fair i mean are you going to apologize i
32:04don't
32:04i don't know
32:07i'm a little bit concerned about ethan because he can be pretty hot-headed and i'm hoping
32:15that that will be calm and under control today
32:27so um thank you guys for making this happen been wanting to have this conversation for a while and
32:34i'm glad you guys could all make it i guess i'll start with owning whatever i can i know
32:39it was quick when we got married and i know that did kind of pressure you guys to you have
32:48to get to
32:48know zach in a certain amount of time and and i'm i'm sorry if that pressured you in any way
32:52but with that
32:54like some people chose to get to know him and some people just made their judgments and and that was
33:03that i know you guys care it would be amazing
33:12if there was a way to show that care especially to zach and some of you have done really well
33:18at that
33:19but if you do approve if you do see that it's good it would be nice to see that effort
33:26a little bit
33:30um so
33:33if there are any concerns that still are lasting now um or any questions that you guys have in
33:40general i'm i'm also open to those conversations i don't have a lot of pain from what they did to
33:47me
33:47it's more that they would do it to me and that they're hurting her in the process that hurt me
33:53more i'm trying to lift lydia up because i know what she's doing is right we want to figure it
33:59out we
33:59want to move forward and obviously like we're open books and we want to figure things out if there's
34:06anything that you guys don't see fit i'd love to be a part of this family in that and so
34:11yeah just kind
34:12voicing what she was i want you all to know sorry i did not want to cry
34:29we were treated the night before our wedding supposed to be a joyful time celebrating the
34:35last night as blap it was actually the hardest night of my life
34:42so
34:55so
34:57so
35:11The way we were treated the night before our wedding
35:14was supposed to be a joyful time celebrating the last night as a flap.
35:19It was actually the hardest night of my life.
35:30Lydia, I felt awful after, I don't know, hindsight.
35:42I guess I can't speak for everyone here, but I'm assuming most of what was done,
35:47even though it wasn't done in the right way or everything happened so fast
35:51or whatever the excuse is, it was looking out for your best interest
35:55because we all care about you a lot.
35:59There's been, obviously, tension.
36:01There was a lot of tension between my brothers, some me.
36:04We do need to make sure he's the one for Lydia.
36:07He needs a test to see his true colors.
36:10I say we just let it happen today, and now we just try to give him a .
36:15I was so wrapped up in a lot.
36:17It's not an excuse.
36:18I should have been there for you even more than I was.
36:23You still danced with me?
36:25I know I did.
36:26That means a lot.
36:30I can only imagine how difficult that was for Lydia and Zach, Zach especially.
36:36You know, hindsight, I'm like, Zach, you're a great guy.
36:39You two seem fit for each other.
36:41But when you're, you know, I meet you two hours before you propose to my sister,
36:48there's a lot of stuff that goes on.
36:50For sure.
36:51Yeah, I mean, you know, people do act different under pressure,
36:55and that's mainly what I was feeling was a lot of pressure with it being rushed
37:00and then seeing, you know, past relationships, people have come into the family really fast
37:04and just turned out bad, and that's the only thing that was stuck in my head.
37:09Looking back, I see that I, certain times I acted, you know, like an idiot.
37:16I'm going to apologize to both of you for certain things that I've done.
37:20It may have been good intentions or thought it was good, but just went about it completely wrong way.
37:26That's all I see from my end, so.
37:27Appreciate it.
37:29You know, you both were saying if we still have things or whatever.
37:34I don't have, I don't think any of us do.
37:36For me, from the time that you two said I do, it was done.
37:40And I'm 100% supportive of both of you, and I see you as a son, son-in-law, part
37:46of the family.
37:51So far, I'm seeing more healing with Micah and Isaac than there is with Kim.
37:56I think there's a conversation that just needs to happen between Lydia and Kim.
38:03There's a lot there to unpack.
38:05It goes deeper than the wedding.
38:07It goes into the realm of when the divorce happened and things like that.
38:12There's healing that's needed there, I think, relationally between those two.
38:17All the concerns that everyone voiced, whether to you or in private,
38:23whether you go about it in the proper way or the wrong way,
38:27there is a time for that, and that time has passed.
38:29You guys are both part of the family now, and I'm very happy to see you both doing well.
38:37And I'm sorry if anything that I did, you know, hurt you, which I know it did, so I apologize
38:42for that.
38:43Yep.
38:46Before their wedding, I was just saying what I saw and what I felt.
38:52Just like Isaac and Micah, we were just encouraging Lydia to not rush into something,
39:00especially with not knowing really what their physical attraction is.
39:04I think there's nothing wrong with checking yourself and being like,
39:07do you see what I see, or am I just delusional, you know?
39:12But I certainly could have been nicer, you know, gone about things maybe in a better way.
39:19It's awesome to have you back here, being able to have more time with you
39:24because it's a lot closer than Minnesota, so.
39:28It's encouraging to hear Ethan apologize.
39:30He definitely had quite a big piece in just the pain and hurt caused.
39:36I wouldn't call it water under the bridge.
39:38I would just call it free ofness, of just him owning up to the things he did wrong.
39:46I mean, it's good to clear the man.
39:49And dad, I don't know if I've said it enough, but thank you so much for all your support.
39:55Please.
39:57I feel like it's almost like a little jab at me, like, at least my dad was supportive, you know?
40:03My mom wasn't.
40:05But she was feeling all of that support because Barry just rubber-stamped the Zach relationship
40:11and didn't even ask questions about anything.
40:16When you're just getting to know somebody, you just, you can tell, you know?
40:21And I could tell with Zach, you know, Lydia's found something really good.
40:26I just wish I could have exported that to everyone.
40:32Well, I just had a piece from the beginning, and I supported him the whole time.
40:38Let me just polish my halo, you know?
40:42He's gloating a little bit, and I feel like I don't get any credit for really caring about
40:49who she spends the rest of her life with.
40:51In the process of getting to know him, seeing him for who he is gave me the peace that,
40:57yeah, they're meant for each other, right?
41:01Barry, from the beginning, was a very trusting person in me, and I really appreciated that.
41:08But I just don't think Kim has really done that.
41:11I think there's a lot still to figure out, and I think I've seen too many tears from Lydia
41:17to think that everything's okay.
41:26Today, we're trying to find Bigfoot.
41:35One of my favorite things in the world is being high.
41:39I'm high as a kite!
41:41You're on a dating app?
41:42Hello, I'm Barry.
41:45Barry has a nickname.
41:46He's called Plath Daddy.
41:50Me and Tegan, we haven't talked in a while.
41:53Really?
41:54So, you're running after her?
41:57Mm-hmm.
41:58The weight that I've put on in the last four and a half years, it's been hard, but I'm turning
42:03that around.
42:04I can tell that you're not attracted to me like I am.
42:09Tegan doesn't know that I'm here.
42:11The worst thing that can happen is she finds out.
42:15Ethan Plath!
42:18I'm starting to think that maybe, you know, it's going too fast.
42:21Was Kaelin putting pressure on you?
42:23She wants to get married soon.
42:25I never pressured you about really anything.
42:30That was her.
42:31Are you serious?
42:33I think he's here.
42:35Oh my God.
42:38I heard you talk about Joshua, but the way that you called me out, that hurt.
42:44We lost a son in 2008.
42:48It was an accident.
42:50Mom has been the target with people in the past, but looking at it now from a different
42:54perspective, she was never in the wrong.
42:56I've heard things about the way you pursued Tegan and you giving a lot and her not giving
43:01in return.
43:03I wasn't looking for your opinion.
43:05If people don't want our opinions, we won't give our opinions.
43:08It actually makes me angry.
43:11I'm not perfect.
43:13I know I very well could have judged them wrongly.
43:16I know I'm not perfect.
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