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00:00:22Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's have a welcome from Patrick Kielty.
00:00:40Thank you very much!
00:00:46Thank you, wow! Good evening! Welcome!
00:00:54Oh, don't go too soon. Don't go too soon. Sit down, sit down, my children.
00:01:01Yes, folks, welcome to The Little It Show, where it is the evening after the night before.
00:01:08How is the head? How is the heart?
00:01:11Oh, so near and yet so far, wasn't it?
00:01:14But so many people have been wishing the boys in Greenwell for all the joy they've brought us over the
00:01:20past few months.
00:01:21Yeah.
00:01:28Michael Martin said that he was proud of all of them.
00:01:32President Connolly said the whole country was still behind them.
00:01:35And Donald Trump said that Ireland was still actually winning the game.
00:01:42Though Czechia say that no negotiations have taken place.
00:01:47We have another great, great show for you tonight, folks.
00:01:50We have Academy Award nominee and IFTA winner, Kieran Hines, is on the show.
00:01:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:01:57We're going to be talking Dancing with the Stars with Darren Garrahy
00:02:01and Traders with Kevin McGahern.
00:02:03CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:02:09For one night only, it is the return of the original late, late PK.
00:02:15Pat Kenny will be here!
00:02:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:02:27But first, it is time for the parish announcements.
00:02:32The death has occurred last night of Ireland's World Cup hopes and dreams.
00:02:37Suddenly, in Prague, they are survived by the players, their supporters
00:02:41and those drunk at home who only wanted a day off work.
00:02:45One of the people who was last to see our World Cup hopes and dreams alive
00:02:49was GrĂ¡inne, the winner of the tickets to the game last week.
00:02:53Give her a round of applause, here she is!
00:02:56CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:02:58GrĂ¡inne!
00:03:04I mean, how was your night? How did it go?
00:03:07We were hoping to have you on. We were hoping there was going to be a big celebration.
00:03:10It was still a celebration.
00:03:11It was?
00:03:12They were fantastic. No, sorry.
00:03:13They were absolutely amazing.
00:03:15Yeah.
00:03:15And the atmosphere and it was just fantastic.
00:03:18It was and it all started so well.
00:03:21It started, like, we really thought we had it.
00:03:24Even down to the last two seconds, we thought this is it, we have it.
00:03:27Absolutely shaking in the stands, Fanny.
00:03:30Absolutely shaking.
00:03:30You had to hold her hand to stop her, but...
00:03:32Yeah.
00:03:33It was just...
00:03:34Whenever you were on last week, you said that your mum,
00:03:37whenever she was in the bath, Ireland always won.
00:03:41Yes.
00:03:42Can you tell us where was she last night?
00:03:44She was in Spain and there was no bath.
00:03:47But, but, but, hang on.
00:03:49Oh, fair due to her.
00:03:50She got a basin of water and sat there for the whole match
00:03:52with her feet in a basin of water.
00:03:55So she did her best.
00:03:56She made the most of what she had.
00:03:59Okay.
00:03:59Well, look, we got a little memory here.
00:04:01This is, this is when things were going okay.
00:04:04This is what you took on the phone.
00:04:06Let's have a look at this.
00:04:08Let's go today.
00:04:10Let's go.
00:04:14Yes!
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00:04:26What are you doing?
00:04:35you know we didn't win the game but win lose or draw Ireland fans cannot be
00:04:39beaten party and what time did you pull the horses up last night about half one
00:04:45two o'clock I was very civilized in you and what a bitch I want to stay output
00:04:50should it the square was closed yeah because we stayed on so late by the time
00:04:54we got back to home places and actually some of your experience the stadium yeah
00:04:58even though we lost even though we lost yeah like that says it all well look we
00:05:04are delighted to have you back we are so sorry the boys didn't get the job done
00:05:08soon but thank you like like the risen Lord the hopes and dreams will rise
00:05:24again my first guest is an award-winning journalist who swapped RTE for DC to
00:05:30cover Donald T for the BBC and who we are delighted to say is back home tonight to
00:05:34explain what's going on on Capitol Hill and maybe even what's going on in Donald
00:05:39Trump's mind would you please welcome chief presenter of BBC news in Washington
00:05:44Katrina Perry
00:06:04welcome to the show how you doing I'm I'm good I like a quiet life so I'm
00:06:10getting a quiet life yes you swapped the hustle and bustle of the RT newsroom for
00:06:16the quiet serenity of Washington I mean what what is it like covering that circus
00:06:23at the moment um it's quite chaotic depending on your viewpoint it's either a
00:06:29beautiful chaos or a very disorganized chaos and it's non-stop it's relentless but if
00:06:37you do what I do and your broadcast journalist who loves international
00:06:41politics and world affairs where else would you be where else would you want
00:06:45to be whenever you went over there Biden was still in power did you see the
00:06:49second coming of Donald Trump on the way I actually did and I'm available for
00:06:56lottery numbers at the end and I actually did I'll tell you why because I saw Joe
00:07:02Biden in 2022 actually while I was still here in RT I was over in the US and I
00:07:08just thought he wasn't as sharp as he was previously and you know if we all are
00:07:13lucky enough to get to old age bits start creaking and cranking and you know
00:07:17that's if you're lucky enough to make it that's what happens and but then I was at
00:07:22the presidential debate in Atlanta in June just before the election that moment and I
00:07:28actually wrote down in my notebook 21 37 like 9 37 p.m. as the moment that it
00:07:34ended for him because it was one of those moments where he just couldn't answer
00:07:37anything and then we had all the shenanigans that came afterwards with the
00:07:41Democrats replace them don't replace them and so on and then I traveled around
00:07:46all seven of the swing states and people were saying to me in you know sort of
00:07:51August September 2024 what they had said to me when I was traveling around those
00:07:55same places for RTE in 2016 which was they were worried about the economy they
00:08:00felt left behind they you know could only put meat on the table for their
00:08:04family once a week they couldn't push petrol in their cars before all of this
00:08:09current crisis and it just felt very similar so I was actually on drive time
00:08:14about three weeks before the election and I was asked to call it you know it
00:08:18always is a foolish thing to do but anyway I put my neck on the block and said I
00:08:22think Donald Trump's gonna win it and the panelists who was on with me laughed at me
00:08:27and was kind of oh you're high there's no possible reality in which this happens
00:08:31but just reading the runes and you know when you get outside of a DC bubble or
00:08:37anywhere like that and you just get talking to people you can usually get a
00:08:40good sense of where their heads are at how has America changed in the the last
00:08:46year a little over a year since Trump has been elected and it's changed a lot
00:08:52understatement of the century and you know it's very I was there when the
00:08:57Obama administration turned into Trump one for RTE so I witnessed a transition
00:09:03and there's always a transition between parties in DC in particular the old guard
00:09:07leave and the new guards come in but this time and in Washington in particular so
00:09:11many people were laid off like so many civil servants were laid off so even where
00:09:15I live in our school lots of the parents lost their jobs so they had to sell
00:09:19their house take the kids out of school move back to wherever they were there's
00:09:24a kind of nastiness there around the place a bit as well because the them and
00:09:27us thing is quite heightened Washington DC is kind of the ground zero for all of
00:09:32this I mean we heard President Trump talking about draining the swamp and so on
00:09:36but you know life is different to like just this past Sunday not to brag but it
00:09:42was 29 degrees in Washington okay you can you can leave any time
00:09:46a lovely golden ball in the sky and you know a few of us like my family a few of
00:09:51the families are having a picnic on the banks of the River Potomac and the
00:09:56National Guard walked by four or five soldiers armed in their combat fatigues in
00:10:00the middle of the day which you wouldn't have seen previously which you never would
00:10:03have seen you know and the kids are like why are there soldiers here mommy and
00:10:08myself and the other parents are kind of saying well nobody really knows and why
00:10:12they're walking through a park on the edge of the river you know the president
00:10:15would say making things safer but it's 12 o'clock on a Sunday in 29 degrees you
00:10:22know yeah I mean the world looks like it's currently upside down this this war in the
00:10:29Middle East if you want to call it a war if you want to call it American and Israeli
00:10:32attacks on on Iran what are people back in America think of this they don't
00:10:37support it poll after poll no matter the source Americans do not support this you
00:10:43know the president started off calling it war then he was calling it a small
00:10:46excursion now he calls it military operation but I mean it's a war for all
00:10:50intense purposes right and any polis see 50 60 70 percent of Americans don't
00:10:56support it and they almost all point to not knowing why they're involved in the
00:11:02first place because traditionally when American president goes to launch a strike
00:11:06on another country they'll do a sit-down address to the nation or there'll be an
00:11:10address after the first strike yeah this is what happened overnight or whatever you
00:11:14know and that hasn't happened and largely that's because of how President Trump
00:11:18conducts his media business you know he puts things on his true social posts but
00:11:23people you know say to you when you're talking to them and they tell pollsters
00:11:27they just don't understand why they're involved in this particularly with the
00:11:30president that promised them not to do things like this not to get involved in
00:11:36forever wars and that's what they're seeing hmm as they say up and done drum I
00:11:43needed a wee fill of oil this week and it was a wee bit more expensive than it was
00:11:48before Christmas I mean hi just a smidge just a smidge yes shout out to Mordeaux
00:11:53Oil who are doing very well with that Phil and how much worse is this going to
00:11:58get for people in Ireland I mean potentially a lot worse I will say the
00:12:03difference between Ireland and America right now is you know the government
00:12:06moved to cut the excise duties this week to try and make things a bit better I
00:12:10suppose you know marginally but that will be probably wiped out by whatever will
00:12:15happen in the next week or two and there's nothing like that happening in
00:12:18the US petrol's gone up just in the last month 30 cent a litre and diesel has
00:12:23gone up 50 cent a litre as in Irish euro cent and that was the one win that
00:12:30President Trump had and could offer them last year and I mean there's no there's no
00:12:35end to this in sight as we see it from our viewpoint obviously we're not privy to
00:12:41talks or talks about talks or texts about talks or you know whatever's going on
00:12:47talks that aren't happening or talks about nothing yeah and but you know as it
00:12:51stands it will it will get a lot worse you know the Iranians can or are prepared to
00:12:58inflict more pain than they are already economic pain and in terms of what they're
00:13:04doing in the Strait of Hormuz that's their their trump card to coin phrase and so this
00:13:09this could go on for some time yet and if President Trump decides that he's going
00:13:14to declare victory well he's not the only party to this right I mean the
00:13:17Iranians may not accept that Israel is involved as well they've a very different
00:13:21agenda to what the Americans do at this point so I don't have any good news to
00:13:25bring but the one thing is that with this president you really never know I mean
00:13:31by the time this show is over goodness knows where we'll be well look this is the
00:13:35thing you know the Taoiseach Michael Martin obviously went there to the Oval
00:13:39Office for St Patrick's Day and had that look that every world leader has which is
00:13:44just smile and hope this stops very soon hi there he is going hi my Taoiseach get me out of
00:13:52here
00:13:56so how do you think he did I think he did well I mean when you go in to the
00:14:01Oval Office now as a
00:14:02foreign leader you look you you want to get out with your head still attached to
00:14:06your body you want to get out without having made headlines you know on the
00:14:11scale of being boring up to a full-on Zelensky mauling I think Michael Martin did
00:14:16pretty well you are in the president's front room essentially and he's the boss
00:14:21in there and that's very evident so you have to be respectful of that you have to
00:14:25be mindful that he's in there not just as Taoiseach Michael Martin in 2026 he's in
00:14:30there as Ireland for the future as well and he's in there as an EU leader so you
00:14:36know I think I think he did a good job in terms of letting President Trump have
00:14:39his say jumping in respectfully when he needed to correct him jumping also being
00:14:45quiet so the camera just went on Trump so he wasn't actually included in some of
00:14:49the stuff he was you can't see his reaction yeah you know he jumped in to
00:14:53defend Sir Keir Starmer like who would have had that on their bingo cards and an Irish
00:14:58that he took rushing to defend British Prime Minister and he also you know
00:15:02Michael Martin also defended the Irish president who he respects I mean yeah he
00:15:11couldn't even get he couldn't even work out President Connolly wasn't a man I
00:15:15mean I will say that he he he he may not have been fully briefed that we have a
00:15:24president and a prime minister okay like he may have sort of not you're giving him
00:15:28the benefit of the yeah I'm giving him the benefit and it was noisy in there and
00:15:31so on but you know he's kind of like I'm dealing with this guy I'm dealing with
00:15:34the head of a country what you mean there's somebody else you know so I think
00:15:38but who knows you survived your own encounter with President Trump in 2017 we
00:15:44have a little clip of you in the Oval Office well we have a lot of your Irish
00:15:50press watching us they're just now leaving the room and where are you from go ahead
00:15:55come here come here where are you from we have all of this beautiful Irish press
00:15:59where are you from I'm from RTE news
00:16:01RTE news Katrina Perry she has a nice smile on her face so I bet she treats you well
00:16:18I'm a reporter get me out of here I haven't seen that clip in an age actually
00:16:23but it follows me around but what's it like being in in his company in terms of
00:16:29what is the vibe it depends on any given day it depends what's going on in his
00:16:36universe what his mood is like the time of day it is and who's been in
00:16:42immediately before the media has been in there who he's been talking to on the
00:16:46phone and you know he he does things just so differently than any other
00:16:52president does and he's more powerful than any other American president in
00:16:57recent times in terms of how he's managed to navigate certain things and you
00:17:02just never know what he's going to say or do but he is more accessible than any
00:17:09president that I've been in Washington for in terms of speaking to the media
00:17:14taking questions taking phone calls answering texts and all of that kind of
00:17:19stuff so you know from a journalist perspective you're like oh this is great
00:17:23you actually get to talk to an American president well look that's the thing I
00:17:27mean for better or worse for better or worse Washington of course is the epicenter
00:17:31of politics at the moment I know you love your job and you know your face lights up
00:17:37when you're talking about it do you miss home at any point I do like you know you've
00:17:42lived away as well you miss your friends and family and you miss going to funerals I
00:17:48mean the Irish people are very good at going to funerals and I don't get to go to
00:17:51funerals that sounds like a weird thing but you know you go to someone in works parent or
00:17:55whatever yeah unfortunately a lot of RT colleagues have died from the newsroom
00:17:59since I've been gone I haven't been able to go to their funeral so that's um you
00:18:03know I am legal by the way just in case the immigration officials I'm not coming
00:18:06I'm not missing the funerals because I can't travel home I just have a job and a
00:18:10family yeah and and you can't be coming home every other week but you miss good
00:18:14Irish beef and good vegetables chipper chips you know and I'm going back now
00:18:20tomorrow with my suitcase full of like properties and onion crisps and proper
00:18:24chocolate I had to have a meeting actually with the Irish representative of the Easter
00:18:29Bunny just to make sure that he knows there are two children in America waiting on Irish
00:18:33Easter eggs not the terrible American chocolate okay good
00:18:50thank you so much I know that this is a flying visit but thanks for coming to see us thanks
00:18:55for filling this in we wish you all the best and thanks for flying the flag for Ireland in Washington
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00:20:32still to come pat kenney returns to the late late show an academy award nominee kieran hines will be here
00:20:38back after these don't go away
00:21:03welcome back to the late late show where it is time to say hello to the most talented and handsome
00:21:10pk in ireland now i know what you're thinking folks you're ready to do that every week
00:21:13on on on this show but you would be wrong uh standing in the wings is a living legend who
00:21:21has hosted this
00:21:21uh very show for 10 years his own radio show for over 40 and as he sails into his sixth
00:21:27decade as a
00:21:28broadcaster he looks and sounds better than ever would you please welcome back to the late show joanne mcnally's
00:21:35very own thirst trap pat kenney
00:21:38and the real owners come back this is
00:22:06you didn't do much to it i have to say
00:22:08you didn't do much to it
00:22:10um how does it feel to be back how does it feel to be very strange sitting in this seat
00:22:15and not this seat
00:22:16well some things are the same some of the the faces happily are the same alan up in the box
00:22:21directing alan started with me uh dermot in charge of the music is still here karen so many faces still
00:22:27around but then there are absent friends as well people i had hoped to see but who are not here
00:22:32anyway it's good to be back
00:22:33it's great to have you back uh i know that when you were hosting this show on a friday you
00:22:38had
00:22:38your own show before that on a saturday you were well used to work on a weekend you're now
00:22:42back to weekends on news talk how are you settling in with that
00:22:46well it's only early days three weeks in heaven knows how many to go
00:22:50i flipped my week i mean i was up around half five every morning monday to friday
00:22:55and now i can sleep until whatever monday to friday
00:22:57and do you not really no no and then saturday and sunday when i used to sleep i used to
00:23:03wake
00:23:03at half five and say oh it's it's saturday back to sleep again oh it's sunday back to sleep again
00:23:09now i'm up at around six on saturday and sunday so
00:23:13it's uh it's a show that you are you're going to keep doing i know that you're one of these
00:23:19people
00:23:20who loves to work and you live for your work you've been doing this for over 50 years
00:23:26i started in 1972 in the gpo as a radio continuity announcer that was when i started
00:23:33and it was a very strange place full of green bays and but i was fascinated by the red lights
00:23:39going on and all of these very arty farty people walking around the place
00:23:42and i suppose i became one of them
00:23:46i mean look at me i mean come on look at that that's
00:23:51and i haven't changed a bit you haven't changed a bit uh you really haven't um now one of your
00:23:57first gigs here in rte there was a letter that went in uh you could have been going in a
00:24:03completely
00:24:03different direction pat if this uh letter had it got a yes it got a no it got a no
00:24:09tell us about that
00:24:09it was an entry for the eurovision song contest it was a song i wrote i used to play guitar
00:24:14and
00:24:15uh sing songs in o'donohoo's pub and all of that way back in the day and i wrote this song
00:24:20called
00:24:20seagulls and i didn't put it in under my own name i put it under the name jason guano
00:24:27i think guano is seagull shit yes yeah if you'll pardon the phrase uh but it didn't make the cut
00:24:32i had to send it in a sheet music which i had to persuade someone else to write for me
00:24:36okay and i got the dear jason letter sorry but no thanks uh you did however end up on eurovision
00:24:44a few years after that i did and it was a strange thing i was on the rt authority at
00:24:50the time and i
00:24:50fancied myself as kind of a current affairs broadcaster and i thought and i do i really
00:24:56want to do this and the then chairman of the authority came to me and said look you've got to
00:25:01ask yourself this is for ireland do it for ireland and then you can go back and interview the
00:25:06Taoiseach if you want so myself and michelle rocca presented that show and celine dion was the winner
00:25:12and that marked the beginning i think you were the winner with that look that is that is very clark
00:25:19kent uh right there i don't recognize that man at all i mean come on that is so good
00:25:26that is so so good good times good times yeah you've had many good times in this studio um you've
00:25:36had
00:25:36many standout shows you've had many uh sit-down shows i remember you coming into this studio
00:25:43on an elephant at one point well that was a particular a toy show that was a toy show i
00:25:47i
00:25:48know that in the current culture that health and safety would not permit that anymore no no so the
00:25:54good news is you're not going to do it well we're not going to do it but the good news
00:25:56is that we do
00:25:57have the clip and we can actually have a look at you here uh health and safety be damned here's
00:26:03pat
00:26:03i know
00:26:27now the extraordinary thing there that wasn't the first time i was on the back of an elephant because my
00:26:33father was the elephant keeper in dublin zoo of course and my grandfather before him was also the
00:26:38elephant keeper in dublin zoo so i was familiar with being on the back of an elephant and it is
00:26:43quite a strange feeling i mean the hairs on an elephant anyone here have a an elephant hair bracelet
00:26:49and it's like wire so it's quite a coarse feeling to be on the neck of an elephant but i
00:26:55i i thought that
00:26:56was a moment that i wished my father had lived to see
00:27:01you talk about um interviewing the t-shirt you talk about eurovision the toy show all of these
00:27:09things there are very few broadcasters that can do it all and there's been a lot of
00:27:14memories that stand out when you were sitting in this chair one for a lot of people was
00:27:19whenever you interviewed joe reilly yeah who um convicted of murdering his wife yes but wasn't at
00:27:26the time no and uh that was an extraordinary interview what are your memories of that my
00:27:32memories of that it was a strange encounter because he was there uh and his in-laws were there the
00:27:38family of his late wife and there was a tension in the air not everyone was convinced at that time
00:27:44that
00:27:45he was the guilty party that emerged later but there was a strangeness in the relationship between
00:27:50rose and jim and joe reilly and even afterwards joe vanished very quickly the rest of us went to the
00:27:58green room and had tea coffee glass of wine or whatever and had a chat about um the terrible
00:28:04situation that they had found themselves in joe split very very quickly which we all thought was
00:28:09rather odd there's a moment in the interview which was just so compelling uh and we actually have
00:28:15it here is when you ask this question you know the way that the guards when they give you the
00:28:21statistics
00:28:21they say that in you know eight out of ten or even nine out of ten murders that the victim
00:28:29was known to
00:28:30the murder or vice versa that the the victim knew the person who killed him or her where the murder
00:28:36happened was in the bedroom which is the very last room of the house so it's the room where you're
00:28:41least likely to bring someone you don't know because you're cornered and my view as well would be and
00:28:48again it's just my view it's not a police theory it's it's just my own personal belief is that she
00:28:52knew
00:28:52the person because why else would you kill her if it's a violent robbery why go to the extreme of
00:28:58murdering the person unless they can identify you extraordinary what a moment because i mean
00:29:05i was aware that i could be talking to the man who had killed his wife simply on the basis
00:29:10of
00:29:10statistics as you say nine out of ten wouldn't be known to the the victim the other thing that even
00:29:16before going into studio there was a vague unease about him because um i remember some of the interviews
00:29:22he gave he was asked by the the police was there anything taken from the house and he said towels
00:29:30now i don't know how many men in this studio here would know how many towels they have and how
00:29:35many
00:29:35might be missing on any given day and that kind of made me feel a little bit uneasy about it
00:29:39but i
00:29:40didn't know for sure for sure and i can't say i suspected during that interview that he was the one
00:29:46when i was looking back at that interview this week the first thing that came to my mind was that
00:29:51that is an interview that probably couldn't be done today you know in the way that tv has changed in
00:29:57the way that um regulations are um i was wondering why you didn't have enoch burke on yeah in my
00:30:07time
00:30:07with my late producer larry masterson he would have been first on our guest list yeah let's get enoch and
00:30:13see just what he's made of i think that with a lot of these things when you are interviewing people
00:30:20that's exactly what i'm saying is that there is various parameters and questions you can ask and
00:30:26questions that you legally can't ask whereas whenever i was looking at you doing that i was going
00:30:33this is an incredible piece of television i mean how has the job changed over the years for you would
00:30:39you say well for me it's changed when i moved to news talk it it was much i think looser
00:30:45in terms of
00:30:46control than what had been happening in rte i felt liberated when i went to news talk i could ask
00:30:52the
00:30:52kind of questions i could opinionate in ways that were not permitted at that time in rt i'm not sure
00:30:58how
00:30:58it is today even though i would say that the time i spent in rt what 40 years or whatever
00:31:03it was fun
00:31:05it was the best the best of times i think we got the very best of rt at that stage
00:31:10the studios were
00:31:11busy uh everyone was making all sorts of programs it wasn't farmed out here there and yon and we had
00:31:17a great time but when i moved to news talk uh things a lot tighter staffs are smaller uh everyone
00:31:23did
00:31:23everything and still do everything and i felt liberated by that move one of the brilliant things
00:31:30whenever i took over this job it was a huge deal for me and i was coming down the road
00:31:34from
00:31:34dundrum on the morning on my first show and you very kindly called me and you it meant so much
00:31:41that you took the time to do that what was it like for you taking over from gay hell no
00:31:46i mean the
00:31:47pressure was absolutely immense because gay was a legend 37 years of doing this show incredible and
00:31:53even towards the end i remember gay i was going back to do kenny live he was going back to
00:31:57do the
00:31:58late late show and i was dying to get back to you know to get the show going and i
00:32:02said how are you
00:32:03feeling gay are you really looking forward to it he said no i'm dreading it and i said why he
00:32:08said
00:32:08well if i haven't interviewed everybody i've interviewed everybody like them so after 37
00:32:15years it had become something of a chore but still he was beloved and is still i believe beloved so
00:32:22someone like me coming in and taking that that famous chair was was difficult and they wanted me to
00:32:28do things that gay had done they didn't want me to use autocue they didn't want me to have a
00:32:32desk
00:32:33and they put me into this little jack-in-the-box i don't give a picture of that i i
00:32:37looked like a
00:32:37jack-in-the-box it was like a tiny little desk and i'm sitting there for the first few shows
00:32:42and
00:32:42then we got rid of that but i was terrified to be quite honest you left the show at the
00:32:47peak of your
00:32:48powers i mean do you ever think you should have maybe stayed a little bit longer
00:32:5310 toy shows patrick okay is a lot i know ryan did what did ryan do did he do 12
00:32:59i think he did 14
00:33:01was it yeah well he must have done because i'm i did four years on the front line and then
00:33:06i went to
00:33:07news talk and i'm in news talk almost 13 years so um but 10 toy shows is a lot elephants
00:33:14polar bears
00:33:15ice climbing up and down the building abseiling down the side of the you know uh that that was enough
00:33:21and i was happy to move on also i had a landing strip i knew i was going to start
00:33:25the front line
00:33:26and i think if you are moving on it's good to have to know where you're going well we know
00:33:32where you're
00:33:32going and your audience knows where you're going and it is weekends weekends 10 to 12 saturday sunday
00:33:37news talk if you haven't already please do move the dial there we go um you can catch the pat
00:33:46kenney
00:33:46show on saturdays and sundays on news talk from 10 a.m uh pat thank you so so much it
00:33:53means so
00:33:54much thank you very much time now for a singer songwriter with millions of followers billions
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00:34:42heart called me first said you just needed time that's when i was really crushed almost lost my mind
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00:35:02that through it all i've always loved you
00:35:09and even when my heart hit that i never want to
00:35:17through it all i've always loved you
00:35:24you showed up at my house one night said your life was hollow without me you cried
00:35:32told you we would have had your time no i need my deep down that was such a lie
00:35:39and then we almost lost and then we almost lost what it was
00:35:44and then we almost lost what it was we fell down to all this time that's when you were
00:35:49really crushed almost lost your mind i don't think you you ever knew
00:36:01and through it all i've always loved you
00:36:09and even when my heart hit that i didn't even want to
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00:36:25you said that life's too short to live without the one you're meant to be
00:36:35and that's true
00:36:39and i'll run to you
00:36:42and i'll run to you
00:36:43you wrote to me
00:36:44a kiss becomes eternity
00:36:47it's true
00:36:48and i'm not with you
00:36:52i don't think you
00:36:56you ever knew
00:37:01that through it all
00:37:03i always loved you
00:37:07and even when my heart hit that i didn't even want to
00:37:18i've always loved you
00:37:24through it all
00:37:27i have always
00:37:32loved you
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00:39:44if you want to win the money good luck still to come darren garrahi will be here talking laugh suffer
00:39:53life kevin mcgahan will be talking traders and we'll be talking if there's an oscars with kieran hines
00:40:19welcome back to the lay late show my next guest is a cavern comedian hot from hosting this year's ifta
00:40:26awards he is also the host of both cheap european homes and traders uncloaked so if you want to make
00:40:33a killing on a holiday home or murder one of your co-stars he's the man to call would you
00:40:37please welcome
00:40:38kevin mcgahan
00:40:55welcome welcome to the show sir how you getting on thank you very much thank you for sending the car
00:40:59no it's although i had to pay for the diesel is that normal i mean that that's that's the new
00:41:04thing
00:41:04that we've started uh you have been jet-setting around europe i have indeed how glamorous is that
00:41:11is it as glamorous as i imagined kevin um it's it's not too bad like it's a great show to
00:41:16work on
00:41:16lovely crew love maggie love working at the crew and but like we're quite low maintenance it's not um
00:41:22it's not that although we had one place uh and it was patty it was the most beautiful italian villa
00:41:28i'd ever seen in my it was like something out of like a olive oil ad you know but i
00:41:34made the
00:41:35incredibly wise decision in dublin airport of buying a hot dog before getting on the plane
00:41:41and i was struck with the worst dose of food poisoning i've ever had in my life so for about
00:41:48two days i was i was sitting on a porcelain throne like in the most in the most beautiful place
00:41:54in the
00:41:54world doing the most disgusting thing and it was that is the story of your life there was a couple
00:42:01there was a couple on their honeymoon next door to me and god loved them like the noises that were
00:42:06coming out of my room like were worse than the noises coming out of the area i noticed i noticed
00:42:13the
00:42:13noises got quieter and quieter as the hours went on but um no it's a great show like people said
00:42:19there's
00:42:19too many property shows and rt um there's not really like we've got what we've got great house
00:42:24revival home rescue uh home of the year uh cheap irish homes cheap european homes uh incredible homes
00:42:32find me a home build your own home et phone home um i'm convinced rt would have commissioned house of
00:42:38the dragon only they found out it wasn't a property show um but it's uh no it's a great show
00:42:43to work on
00:42:44and james kavanagh is filling in for me because i tore my achilles uh at christmas oh is this why
00:42:50you had the uh the snoop dog stick exactly okay yeah i'm not a pimp paddy okay i'm not times
00:42:56are not
00:42:56that hard okay but uh james kavanagh filled in for me and apparently he did an incredible job hopefully
00:43:02not too good no yeah it's you never want that no that's not when pat kenny is watching you behind
00:43:07that desk like yeah i wish you the best buddy i don't want to do that i can see him
00:43:11just taking those
00:43:11gun see me after this is not good this is not good uh let's talk traders uh traders on cloak
00:43:18the
00:43:18whole of ireland glued to the first season oh my god when's the second season or is it going to
00:43:24be
00:43:24coming our way soon i don't know can i deliver that exclusive okay just yet but i mean i think
00:43:30it's safe
00:43:30to say like it was such a phenomenon um i mean i thought why was it such a phenomenon do
00:43:36we think
00:43:36i don't know i mean i thought it ended beautifully uh with the three ladies uh vanessa kelly and iron
00:43:42winning i thought there was a lovely heartfelt uh sort of ending i thought there was some great
00:43:47characters eamon the guard was brilliant eamon had this wonderful tell whenever he was lying to someone
00:43:54i don't know if anyone noticed whenever he would sit down to to bullshit with somebody he would take
00:43:59a cushion and put it over his crotch and if you ever want to look trustworthy don't cover your crotch
00:44:08pawdy was amazing i mean there's so much love for pawdy in this country i thought he was going to
00:44:14run
00:44:14for president you know still could there's still time still time there's still time um irish people seem
00:44:20to um they seem to warm to this format don't they yeah because i mean the traders traders is all
00:44:27about
00:44:27like lying and mischief and we love mischief and lying and telling lies like pawdy had this amazing
00:44:36thing where um pod somebody asked pawdy straight up they're like you're a traitor pawdy aren't you and
00:44:41he goes oh i am yeah like he told the truth and people assumed he was lying but like i
00:44:49loved what i
00:44:50liked about pawdy was i think you represented a type of irish outlads that you see in your life but
00:44:54you never
00:44:55see represented on telly like there was an owl lad around our way um my grandfather was in a show
00:45:02band and there was a drummer in the band mom do you reckon i can tell this story she go
00:45:07on go ahead
00:45:08she's looking away she's shaking her head so that means yes you're telling it he was uh he was a
00:45:13funny
00:45:13dude and he you know if there was work in the bed he'd lie on the floor but uh he
00:45:18one of his many jobs
00:45:19was shaving corpses um like men obviously yeah um so one of his jobs was shaving corpses
00:45:27and at the time some people used to put coins on the eyes of the dead yeah to pay the
00:45:34ferryman to
00:45:34bring them over the river jordan and uh he went up to shave the corpse he came straight down to
00:45:40the pub
00:45:40and he slapped two coins up in the counter and everyone was looking going like i wonder where he got
00:45:46these coins you know and eventually somebody piped up and said uh well will uh will owl johnson make
00:45:53it across the river jordan and he goes uh he might but uh he'll have to swim and i love
00:45:59that level of
00:46:00irish outlad mischief you know and pawdy had that you know yeah he did uh you did a brilliant job
00:46:08at the
00:46:08iftas again this year did it get easier second time around i don't know like it's a stressful gig
00:46:13um because you do want to impress everyone that's there and you walk out and they're all there they're
00:46:20all there kieran heinz who's on later on he got the lifetime achievement award um so yeah no it was
00:46:26it was nerve-wracking but it was good crack and i believe now there's fans in the room and there's
00:46:31there's international fans around the world now kevin oh my god in the world of hollywood so glad you
00:46:36brought this up sharon sharon stone sharon sharon stone was sliding into my dm's paddy so she was
00:46:44can you imagine the 13 year old kevin inside me when he got that message so what's so what's so
00:46:51impressed her what was the i did the song i did a song um at the end and i was
00:46:57just trying to like
00:46:57celebrate all the amazing irish talent you had the byron at the baron house one lesson
00:47:02i'm not a great baron player no but sharon stone sharon was impressed sure she doesn't know anything
00:47:07about baron no she just liked the notion of you yeah why is he playing a drum kit on his
00:47:13leg
00:47:15would you if if somebody maybe potentially had a had a buyer on tonight do you think could you maybe
00:47:22see is there a chance i mean is there a chance you could show us what impressed sharon stone patty
00:47:30i'm
00:47:30very unprepared i'll give it a go patty she see what you could do off the top of your head
00:47:38there okay
00:47:39so i think i started off like this country is going through a renaissance a cultural renaissance
00:47:47the amount of actors that have graced uh the stages we've won more oscars per capita than any other
00:47:53nation and we've won nearly every ifta every ifta think of the talent jesse buckley searsha ronan
00:48:03fassbender farrell barry kione fiona shaw steven ray harris o'toole and milo o'shea
00:48:09mcginley mescal mega and neeson aiden gillen and all three gleasons
00:48:13nia valgar sara green kerry connelly robbie sheen nicola cochin jivonne mick swinney
00:48:19cillian murphy and the bowle columnini gabriel burton lola petticrew
00:48:23carrie crowley reese myers too peter coosin tom von lawler anthony boyle i thought he'd be taller
00:48:29mcgill hatton tolly mcglin fierce broadson and natin quinn it may not count but we'll claim
00:48:35daniel day oh if anyone asked steve coosins from mayo amy hooverman ashley mcb
00:48:39charon orkin and lisa mcgee chris o'dow deodhro kane poor cracked and a bag of cocaine
00:48:45heinz cunningham marie king vanula flanagan you light up the screen
00:48:49gargoyle hanlon andrew scott who knew that you could make a priest hot
00:48:53where would we be without jim sheridan daniel day you would have never heard of him
00:48:58johnny avelson real jordan they made films and we adore them we are out the gap
00:49:03no sign that's low let's keep her lips let's keep her going this garden of ours is just a blooming
00:49:07we're in show business baby and business is booming
00:49:25i'm so glad we were able to surprise you with that uh you can see cheap european homes and rt1
00:49:33norty player 6 30 on sundays uh give it up one more time kevin mcgaharn
00:49:44my next guest is a broadcaster podcaster and impressionist who has lit up our afternoons and
00:49:502fm lit up our screens as co-host of dancing with the stars and is now about to light up
00:49:54the road
00:49:55with our first nationwide tour of the laughs of your life here to tell us why our future is also
00:50:01looking
00:50:01rosie tonight would you please welcome dirin garrahi
00:50:24let me fix myself let you just fix yourself am i all right you're great it's all good i'm
00:50:30great i was behind the curtain for the baron i love to do it again i mean look well i
00:50:36mean we've
00:50:36got it here if you want if you want to give us requests yeah uh it was great to see
00:50:41you back
00:50:41hosting uh my national holiday you're back on our screens what was that like on st patrick's day
00:50:46we love to celebrate you patty yes uh yes i was back oh it was brilliant it was absolutely brilliant
00:50:51i'd never done it before um i had front row seats on o'connell bridge um yeah i was up
00:50:57on the stage
00:50:58looking down at the parade i was delighted to get the call a couple of weeks ago and you know
00:51:02there
00:51:02i am yeah and joined i o'shea and emir o'neill and it was real seat of your pants stuff
00:51:07i had never
00:51:08heard that phrase before until they rang seat of your pants they were like it's very seat of your
00:51:12pants yes is it seat of your pants anyway it's very it's as live as it gets and it was
00:51:19great fun and
00:51:19i was honored to do it obviously on a very important day uh well look it was great to see
00:51:22you back because
00:51:23you've been taking a little break because you've been an important business uh with baby rosie
00:51:28congratulations thank you very much
00:51:35there she is look at that gorgeous on mother's day winner winner yes winner winner now when you were on
00:51:43here the last time yes i think you were just pregnant but you weren't saying anyone at that point yes
00:51:49i was
00:51:49five weeks pregnant no it was probably more than that because i was sick okay yeah i did not feel
00:51:54good and there were like open charcuterie boards and egg and onion sandwiches backstage i tell you we
00:52:00know how to live on this show i was like this is glamorous but i'm not in the mood yeah
00:52:05so i wasn't
00:52:07feeling great but i got through the night yeah my parents were in the audience they didn't know at
00:52:10the time but i'm surprised my mom didn't because i text her on the way i was like i didn't
00:52:14uh would
00:52:14you any chance you bring just some dry cream crackers she was like absolutely i'll bring cheese
00:52:19as well so anyway i had the dry cream crackers i was grand but no it was it was strange
00:52:24i was
00:52:24convinced people would know but sure no one knows nobody knows no uh so you've got uh you got this
00:52:30bundle of joy i know your husband was as besotted as you are he he wouldn't even leave the hospital
00:52:36no it was yeah he was he was in every visiting hour allowed and beyond he definitely broke the rules
00:52:43he was supposed to go home you know he has been very hands-on from the get-go and i'm
00:52:47very grateful
00:52:47for that but it's i think now that she's five months she was five months over the weekend and you
00:52:53know
00:52:53i think when the dad started to get the crack out of them that's when the crack really starts isn't
00:52:56it
00:52:56but i actually worked with kevin when he had a newborn yeah and i was taking any job going
00:53:04i think paulis was like 10 days old she was really young yeah yeah we wrote the during project
00:53:09together and and so we were on zoom it was like peak lockdown and she was almost in the background
00:53:13just like winding her yeah i was like he's a 10 day old baby and and so you were getting
00:53:17a lot of
00:53:17is there now a newfound appreciation of oh my god it's not until you and like i'm sure anyone will
00:53:23say that until you're in it you don't get it and so actually one of the first things my mom
00:53:27said
00:53:27when i told her i was pregnant she was like now you'll realize how shy of an auntie you've been
00:53:32sorry for cursing mom that's what she said because you don't until you're in it you don't get
00:53:36it yeah now i'm like one of my friends had a baby last week and i'm like coffees croissants what
00:53:41do you need i'll drop them at the door what do i need yes and you're less judgmental aren't you
00:53:45kevin as as a parent i think as you know yeah i think so i remember i used to like
00:53:50we used to be
00:53:51in restaurants and i'd see like um a mother young parents come in with their little three-year-old or
00:53:57four-year-old the child we bounced around the place and knocking glasses and clinking cutlery
00:54:00and the mother would take out a phone and put on peppa pig and i used to look at this
00:54:05before i had
00:54:06a child and i turned to my wife and say that is an absolute disgrace now if i saw a
00:54:14mother hit her
00:54:15child in a restaurant i'd just go that must be a real bad bastard of a child to warrant that
00:54:19response
00:54:20from that poor woman that didn't come that had been building up for the week you know yeah send a
00:54:26bottle
00:54:26of wine over to the table speaking of over sharing uh no you've been sharing your motherhood journey
00:54:34uh online yeah uh i know that's been important to you what's the response been like yeah i think like
00:54:41again social media can be bad for that where you compare in despair and you see people who seem to
00:54:45be
00:54:46nailing it so i've tried to just be as honest as i can and of course we all share our
00:54:49highlights like
00:54:50that photo there was mother's day you know before that it's chaos trying to get ready to get out the
00:54:54door but yeah yeah i've had a really nice response like i suppose like stuff like breastfeeding all
00:54:59the things that you cannot prepare for until you're in it like the biggest response i've ever got on
00:55:04instagram was to that and people sharing their different journeys and how judgment is such a big
00:55:08part of us and i just i never want to i suppose perpetuate that i always want to be as
00:55:13honest as
00:55:14possible i think it's you have to be and you have to you know communicate with other moms and learn
00:55:19from them and you don't want to freak someone out either if someone hasn't had a baby you only be
00:55:22like
00:55:22it's really hard and they love to say people love to be like just wait and they're like she's
00:55:27sleeping the night yeah how old is she 12 weeks just wait for the four months sleep regression
00:55:31it seems like they're enjoying that information they love it they love it so yeah i think balance
00:55:36is key you don't want to scare people but you also want to be as honest as possible uh so
00:55:40we have
00:55:41missed you on dancing with the stars this year what was it like watching that from the sidelines
00:55:45well i went to the 100th episode yes we i know you were on that yes so i was in
00:55:49the audience for
00:55:50that which was amazing like it was lovely to sit back and relax i did have a tiny bit of
00:55:54like i'd
00:55:55love to be doing it yeah because there are like it's such an amazing show to work on um so
00:56:00i definitely
00:56:00missed it i'm glad i'm glad i didn't do it because i think when i made the decision when i
00:56:04was pregnant
00:56:05i was like maybe i'd be able but now that was never happening not a chance because you have to
00:56:11do
00:56:11dances as well like as hosts yes that's a lot of work like before the show goes live and she
00:56:16was like
00:56:16she was 10 weeks for this first uh show so there's no way now i know i know there's no
00:56:21way i would have
00:56:21been able now you know um so you're going to be back you're going to be busy busy you've got
00:56:25the
00:56:26podcast you're going back on the road the podcast i know you've had some huge names on that you've had
00:56:30paul mescal chris o'dowd kevin mcgahan who um yeah i know you have that's fantastic i'm saying
00:56:37who's your favorite guest kevin top five anyway i know we're great no paul mescal um so yeah
00:56:47look i don't look as good in shorts okay i was very cheeky it was normal people had just come
00:56:52out
00:56:52and i tweeted and asked chris o'dowd and paul mescal would they be guests and then i ran back to
00:56:57instagram i was like people go over and like this tweet so they can see it so like three thousand
00:57:00people liked it so i think they probably felt pressured then they were probably like who is
00:57:04this weirdo and then tato chimed in and they were like if you guys do the podcast we'll donate money
00:57:09to charity oh wow and then guinness chimed in and then ten thousand euros so i said to my god
00:57:14well now we have to do it because if we don't we'll be awful anyway it's called the laughs of
00:57:18your life
00:57:18podcast um and we're going on tour in may you are going on tour you're going on the road yes
00:57:23you will
00:57:24will there be an element of stand-up to this steering oh i was i was supposed to reveal that
00:57:28funny so i've never sorry let's go don't worry we'll let we let it rewind the tape so so tell
00:57:36us
00:57:36what can audiences expect so okay i'm very slow to call it stand-up right but i started in comedy
00:57:43by
00:57:43doing impressions and skits or whatever and i've never i suppose performed live on a stage oh wow so i'm
00:57:48kind of writing something brilliant i'm writing something um so yeah i'm going to be performing
00:57:55as part of the show will maura uh uh will maura higgins be will maura higgins be please say yes
00:58:01do you think like what chance could i have got before she did the trailers now there's not a hope
00:58:12in hell
00:58:13paddy what are you thinking yeah when will we uh hear you back on the wireless i'll be back on
00:58:26radio
00:58:26in may brilliant yes back on 2fm okay so you've got the tour coming up tour in may we're going
00:58:32to
00:58:32work kerry mayo dublin limerick for the last of your life live and i'd love people to come okay brilliant
00:58:37well look thank you so so much darren for coming in thank you uh the last of your life cheers
00:58:43ireland
00:58:44may uh shows in cork kerry mayo dublin and limerick see darren garrahi.com for more details one more
00:58:51time let's hear for darren and kevin okay time now it says here to make our audience happy bonnies do
00:59:05we
00:59:05have to we have to do this or maybe even hoppy bunnies as this midterm an egg-citing adventure awaits
00:59:16and ireland's theme park and zoo how dare you kevin mcaherd emerald park uh with the return of a
00:59:23hugely popular hop and hunt extravaganza one of ireland's largest easter egg hunts running from
00:59:29thursday april the 2nd and monday the 6th of april uh this promises to be uh family fun adventure
00:59:36chocks galore grab your map and hunt for over 12 000 chocolate eggs with more than 45 rides 250
00:59:43animals it is the perfect family day out this easter break and it is just 20 minutes from dublin it
00:59:50says
00:59:50which is handy if you live in kerry please see emerald park dot ie for more and so to celebrate
00:59:57all of that
00:59:58we have a pair of all access emerald park tickets with lunch for everybody in the audience
01:00:09still to come one of ireland's greatest actors academy award nominee kieran heinz will be here
01:00:15don't go away back after these
01:00:39welcome back to the lee lyd show where my final guest tonight is an oscar bafta and golden globe
01:00:45nominated actor who's been wowing audiences and critics for over 40 years and everything from
01:00:50belfast to there will be blood and harry potter to in bruges with scorsese and spielberg both fans
01:00:56it was no surprise he was recently honored with a lifetime achievement award from ifta we're
01:01:03delighted he's here tonight would you please welcome kieran heinz
01:01:27lovely to see you fella how you getting on i'm not too bad for a man of a certain age
01:01:31for a man of a certain
01:01:32great age uh congratulations on the ifta it looked like you had a good night yeah i had uh
01:01:39sometimes because it's very humbling but it's also a great honor that's the truth of it it's a great
01:01:43honor but it's also very humbling so i got my sisters down from belfast to uh diffuse the spotlight
01:01:49and my wife and daughter came over from uh paris yeah and ifa so it was grand it was a
01:01:54great evening
01:01:54it was very warm very warm evening altogether and kevin was the uh the mc and he was rather brilliant
01:02:00like he was he was superb that night as he is and you know you have been to oscars baftas
01:02:08golden globes
01:02:09all of these things to have all of irish acting and the movie world in that room i mean what
01:02:16did that
01:02:17mean to you it's a huge amount it's a huge amount and also we know that uh you know we
01:02:21are of a certain
01:02:22age and but there were people before us who laid tracks for us and they talk about standing on people's
01:02:27shoulders and what you do and like you know uh when i turn around and stephen ray is there it
01:02:33means the world to me it really genuinely does because he's a master and we suddenly find ourselves
01:02:40now looking at a generation and another generation below us and how extraordinary they are and such a
01:02:46freedom they have and such a such a natural brilliance and how all of that is moving on yeah and
01:02:52being
01:02:52developed and and with kind of uh strong financial help to actually develop an industry in a way
01:02:59because the people here whether it's writing or uh directing creating or acting or designing they're
01:03:07just a very talented talented bunch of people no we really are at this at this point it's just a
01:03:13purple patch isn't it for irish filmmaking and and storytelling you didn't just get the ifta trophy that
01:03:19night you also got your own range of t-shirts i believe kieran modeled by a certain man from from
01:03:26bala mina can you talk us through this there we go yeah that's the one we all want well known
01:03:34to some
01:03:34of us as the bala mina bollocks
01:03:41there's a story behind that which i mean it was a huge coup d'etat if you want because it
01:03:46really was
01:03:47a shock to me but we we spend christmas together every year i mean you guys go back a long
01:03:52time
01:03:52yeah since we were 18 or 19 we met on a dublin airport on a going to a place called
01:03:57eskede in
01:03:58holland for a theater course for young people uh throughout europe you know and we were very naive
01:04:04and gauche and uh we're about 17 or 18 leaving ireland for the first time and going to meet fellow
01:04:10europeans to do workshops and theater and stuff and uh that's where we kind of bonded and then you did
01:04:15a
01:04:16scalibur together we did we did yeah we actually that was our first film yeah both of us first
01:04:22film which we mean this is a this is quite the line up here that's yourself and and liam patrick
01:04:27stewart it's helen mirren oh wow uh sherry lungi nickel williams that's it's a strong look that's a
01:04:34strong look right there liam had had a line he had a lot more lines than i did which is
01:04:39probably a good
01:04:40thing and uh he had this line that had to say he's pink he had to say i shall ride
01:04:46forth in search of
01:04:48that quest and i under my breath said i'll ride trip then and then followed by a lot of armor
01:04:56shaking
01:04:56so that's where the friendship developed and then that's how you end up getting a lifetime achievement
01:05:02award and liam printing his own t-shirts revenge is very sweet where did the t-shirts come from the
01:05:08t-shirts
01:05:09came from his son danny who's is a gorgeous fella two years ago we were there at christmas because
01:05:14we share christmas together every year and danny had these t-shirts made up unbeknownst to me and
01:05:19christmas eve comes and there's a ritual about uh dressing the tree and uh and i'm last down but
01:05:26they're all in these t-shirts covered with some shirt but i don't know this so i start dressing the
01:05:31tree and it took about 10 or 15 minutes with sniggering and pointing for me to say i don't
01:05:38know what's wrong with everybody and i hadn't seen that they were all wearing that t-shirt
01:05:43fantastic and uh that was uh i guess a early christmas present and then it was um revisited by
01:05:50lame and now a gift and now a gift to us all guys oh thank you very much and now
01:05:53a gift to us all you are
01:05:55back in ireland with this new movie uh it is a lovely performance a lovely story can you tell
01:06:01us a wee bit about uh the three urns yeah the three urns it's a it's but it's a fellow
01:06:06called o'connor
01:06:07who's um i guess he's on a mission or a kind of pilgrimage to uh scatter his beloved wife's ashes
01:06:16back where they came from there were emigres in france for 45 years or more they've been living there
01:06:22making irregular contact back home she's passed away and he's now on a mission to fulfill promises
01:06:29that he made her to revisit certain places that they knew when they were young and uh and honor
01:06:35her in that way and those promises aren't as easy to keep as he thinks no they're mental it's it's
01:06:42it's
01:06:43like it's like a road movie uh all set in donegal which is brilliant
01:06:49great look we fans in already here check this out this is uh this is kieran in the three urns
01:06:57good morning good morning do you have the book i ordered ah yes here how much joy are we 430
01:07:04euros
01:07:08mon amour let us go then you and i and visit the places that meant so much to us
01:07:14where we first met where we first kissed and where we said we loved each other
01:07:21i'm traveling my car but uh i parked it up and somebody stole the wheels
01:07:25oh for god's sake they've stolen the bloody car
01:07:34they're uh
01:07:37they're not cheering as much for donegal now oh no no no no they still are that's what i mean
01:07:41it's a road movie you know what i mean and you don't get very far if you've no car but
01:07:45then
01:07:46a milk float comes into play and a solar milk float and a horse drawn milk float and it's insane
01:07:52it's totally insane but it's something very beautiful about what stephen warbeck and uh
01:07:57john paul davidson yeah the writer directors have made of it and uh it's kind of full it's a it's
01:08:03a
01:08:03it's about love really and open-heartedness and the kindness of strangers mixed with a lot of odd
01:08:09balls and quirks and that moment that idea of you're in this moment you have to live the moment
01:08:16that's in front of you just the moment yeah and either you face the moment you join in the moment
01:08:20or you run like hell from the moment that's a choice every time yeah i mean there's a brilliant cast
01:08:26in it i loved seeing uh your wife helen uh on screen again last the purries were last seen uh
01:08:33having a
01:08:34having a clinch behind a wheelie bin on on the dry this is this is a slightly less intense interaction
01:08:40yeah in regards to my wife helen my darling wife helen we do this thing called the dry together in
01:08:47which um in fact it's i think it's the the final third series is coming out april may hang on
01:08:54this is
01:08:54this is a little exclusive for us what this we didn't know this so this is coming back it is
01:08:59the final
01:08:59yeah it's a third and final series oh wow the dry is coming back okay amazing and that's good news
01:09:04for everybody yeah it's it's it's been very popular and yeah it's a huge show and uh and nancy harris
01:09:13the writer who's extraordinary she's written it all herself she's taken this time to um to kind of
01:09:18fulfill everybody's journey and end with a flourish but there's a scene in it where uh my long-suffering
01:09:24wife and real life helen playing my mistress in the story uh there's a scene between us um where
01:09:32she has to chuck plates at me and just before we were about to shoot the scene she said to
01:09:38the
01:09:38entire crew she said this is the reason why i accepted the role and started packing plates at me
01:09:45anyway we're good we're good that's so good um you know whenever you look back on
01:09:53on your beginnings you know that idea some people some people go with the flow some people have a
01:09:59plan what was it for you in terms of was was acting always the first love uh no i didn't
01:10:05i was um my
01:10:07mother was a an amateur actor and she gave us a bit of a graph for it and then i
01:10:12was involved with school
01:10:13plays and irish dancing was a huge part of my in my psyche when i was young because it was
01:10:20the idea of
01:10:20not just irish dancing but we told the tales through dramatic structure of coholland and
01:10:25ferdy and finn mccool and all that so that was there's one or two of those three stories in this
01:10:30it's like storytelling the art of it and because they they do inform us i think uh all that idea
01:10:36when they talk about why the irish are so great the writing or the performing the idea goes back
01:10:41to storytelling the shana keys the idea of how you embellish how you tell how you keep people
01:10:46interested in those dark cold nights like tonight yeah one of my favorite performances uh that i saw
01:10:54you uh in cairn was in belfast i was very very lucky to host the premiere up in the waterfront
01:11:00hall
01:11:01you were and just the gras in the room for for that movie was so so huge on that night
01:11:09what what did
01:11:09that mean to you um it was the thing is it's like you know know the expression take coals to
01:11:17newcastle
01:11:17be careful and to take belfast to belfast in itself you're a bit trepidatious because everybody's
01:11:23going to have an angle on it and we had opened uh ken brander had taken the film around to
01:11:28festivals
01:11:29and what was very interesting about it i heard back was that people took it to their hearts in
01:11:35the specificity of the story he was telling to his particular time as a child in the world and
01:11:42people who would see this at film festivals whether they're from asia from south america from africa
01:11:48witnessed a story of of some form of truth of a child's journey a narrative and in difficult dark
01:11:56times and then when you bring that to belfast as you know there will be people with agendas
01:12:03as they're always agendas and you're not going to fulfill everybody's idea of what their truth is and
01:12:10i had to speak to somebody who was given out about it to say like will you never see the
01:12:15world through
01:12:16the eyes of a nine-year-old child because that's what we're talking about not your version of your
01:12:22truth when you were older or what you think happened this is the eyes of a nine-year-old
01:12:27and that's what the story is it's what the story is and your part in it is superb we have
01:12:32a little
01:12:33clip if you don't mind uh having a a little look at this the wee girl's still showing some interest
01:12:39yeah
01:12:41she looks at me sometimes oh we're not allowed to talk in the class so i can't say anything and
01:12:47then when we go out to the playground she always goes off with the other girls
01:12:51anyways i think she loves that other fella ah you don't know that for sure women are very mysterious
01:12:58and women can smash your face into you mister your granny's become less mysterious over the years
01:13:03so you really like her when i grow up i want to marry her yeah sounds like you really like
01:13:10her
01:13:10you know she's not only in school you could see where she lives maybe
01:13:16it's reynolds drive four houses in from the right the one with the monkey ate well you've done your research
01:13:29so you've had your dunygall adventure uh the dry is coming back where uh what's next for you what is
01:13:36floating your boat at the moment uh i'm i'm working on a lovely project right now with um directed by
01:13:45john
01:13:45crowley and uh it's an adaptation of a claire keegan short story adapted by conor mcpherson uh shooting
01:13:53it down in wicklow with the great andrew scott and emily blunt wow and uh when can we see that
01:14:01poor
01:14:01emily blunt has to suffer me as her father but i have a story about emily we worked together about
01:14:06four
01:14:07years ago uh in spain and it was a thing called the english which is a very very dark story
01:14:14set in america
01:14:14in the 1890s and uh i was a real my character was a real nasty nasty piece of work and
01:14:23uh i welcomed
01:14:24her character uh early on in the story from a stagecoach i opened the door for her i welcomed
01:14:31her down the steps and i said welcome to america and she saw behind me a native american tied up
01:14:38with
01:14:38his face all bloody and beaten up and she looked at me and she said whatever i don't remember what
01:14:46the
01:14:46line was but it was about to say i don't agree with this and i looked at the native american
01:14:51and i looked
01:14:52at her and i punched her right in the face and she went down like a deck of cards and
01:14:58i thought i've
01:14:59just decked mary poppins i mean it was all scripted like yeah yeah you know i okay it wasn't just
01:15:06for
01:15:06the hell of it this was part of this and she was still happy to see you and she was
01:15:09still happy to
01:15:10see me again yeah well look we cannot wait for that to come out uh in the meantime though the
01:15:15three
01:15:15irons is out in cinemas from the 17th of april karen thank you so so much uh karen hines
01:15:21thank you okay just time to find out who has won our 10 000 euros uh it is anne walsh
01:15:35from county
01:15:36donegal congratulations to anne uh that is it for tonight's show thanks to all my guests
01:15:44uh until next time this has been the late show i've been patrick keelty good night thank you
01:15:53thank you
01:15:54uh
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