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00:00:21Now ladies and gentlemen, let's have a welcome from Patrick Kielty.
00:00:40Good evening, good evening. Thank you very much, folks. Welcome to The Lillard Show.
00:00:49Please, as always, we are coming to you direct from Dublin with another fab line-up.
00:00:54And as always, we have an almost live studio audience. There they are, yes.
00:01:02Yeah. All of them with that look Micheál Martin had in the Oval Office this week.
00:01:07Just keep smiling and hopefully he'll stop talking out of his arse soon.
00:01:14We do have a great show coming your way, though, folks. We have the last man to fire Ireland
00:01:18into the World Cup Finals. Jason McAteer will be here. You'll be interested in this. We
00:01:27have tickets for one lucky audience member to Ireland's World Cup playoff game next week
00:01:32in Prague. And from Cheshire, Via Mayo, Colleen Rooney is in the house.
00:01:51But before all that, my first guest is a true icon of Irish music who has wide audiences
00:01:58around the world for over four decades. However, this year she's decided to call time on a truly
00:02:04stellar career with her last ever tour. Before she sails into the sunset, though, we are delighted
00:02:10she's here to celebrate with us tonight with one of her absolute classics, Katie. Please
00:02:50love 193!
00:02:53and папç¶
00:02:56and the summer
00:03:03sky on the window and your heart calling out to me. Come running home again, Kate. Come
00:03:15running home again. Cross my heart and hope to die. Shall I cause another tear from your
00:03:26eye and the mirror that won't talk and your night gun on the door and the o'erpedal singer,
00:03:39oh, just don't sing no more. You can roll the reels for hours from the movie of this book.
00:03:50It's a question mark on this heart of mine that sends an elder by to look. Come running
00:04:00home again, Kate. Come running home again. Cross my heart and hope to die. Shall I cause another
00:04:13tear from your eye, Kate? Now I'm looking through a tunnel back into the room with a genius of a
00:04:43dream. I'm looking through it when the sunlight floats the tomb. And I'm never going back
00:04:51there. And I couldn't tie me away. Cause though I made the great escape, I never got away. Come
00:05:06running home again, Kate. Come running home again. Cross my heart and hope to die. Shall I cause another tear
00:05:20from your eye? Come running home again, Kate. Come running home again. Cross my heart and hope to die. Shall
00:05:34I cause another
00:05:35love, tear from your eye? Come running home again, Kate.
00:06:07Good to see you. Love you to see you. There you go.
00:06:13Wow. That was amazing. Thanks so much. That was so, so good. I was watching you. I was watching our
00:06:22audience watching you. And I'm looking at a question here that says you're going out for the very last time
00:06:27in the road. I can't quite believe it. Why now?
00:06:30Well, I suppose we've been thinking about it for a while. And, you know, every year I kind of say,
00:06:36maybe it's time, you know, maybe it's time. And a few things happened this year. You know, we had two
00:06:42new additions to the family. We have two new babies, only three weeks between them. Indy is five and a
00:06:50bit months and Joni is six months. So lots going on at home. I don't know. I just don't want
00:06:56to be too old.
00:06:57I don't want to be too old to enjoy my retirement. You know, I've been working. I've been on the
00:07:02road for over 40 years, you know, and, you know, it takes its toll. A lot of work behind the
00:07:07scenes as well. People think you just step up on stage and it's you sing for an hour and a
00:07:11half and that's it. It's a lot of prep and a lot of work behind the scenes. And Joe, my
00:07:15husband does a lot of it too. So it'll free us up. You know, it'll free up a wee bit.
00:07:19I mean, lots of fans around the world, Mary, lots of fans here in Ireland. What's their response been to
00:07:24the news that this is it? And
00:07:27this is the last tour. Oh, it's a huge response. I mean, I'm actually very overwhelmed because I thought, yeah,
00:07:33it'd be nice to, you know, like announce it and tickets sell well. But like, it's just gone through the
00:07:37roof.
00:07:38We had to put in extra gigs. People were disappointed. They couldn't get tickets. And so we're doing three Olympias
00:07:45and three Vicar Streets.
00:07:46And then we put on a show in the stadium at the last minute because people were so disappointed. So
00:07:50there's some tickets left for that. And actually Rosie and my daughter are going to be doing support opening the
00:07:55show there. So that'll be a nice night.
00:07:57Those tickets could well be gone. They could well be gone even just for that first song tonight. Thank you.
00:08:03You know, you're talking there about over 40 years, you know, doing this professionally, over 50 years on stage. Was
00:08:08music always in the family from a young age?
00:08:10Ah, yeah, it was. I think everybody knows the black family at this stage. If you were Irish, you wouldn't
00:08:15know. You wouldn't miss it. But yeah, we were brought up in inner city Dublin.
00:08:21There was three brothers and Francis, my sister. And, you know, we just grew up singing and playing. And my
00:08:28father played fiddle. He was from Rathlin Island in Antrim.
00:08:31And mother was from inner city Dublin as well. She loved to sing. So it just was, it just was
00:08:36a normal thing in our house. I thought every house was like that, you know, instruments lying around and a
00:08:40session on a Sunday afternoon.
00:08:42And yeah, and I suppose it just developed from that, you know, for your family, you know, music was part
00:08:49of your family, you know, for our family and so many other families, your music was so much part of
00:08:54our families growing up.
00:08:56I mean, No Frontiers. I mean, it was illegal not to have that album here in Ireland. I mean, were
00:09:01you surprised by, you know, how that took off so quick?
00:09:05Yeah, I was. Now, No Frontiers was the album that kind of opened doors for us outside of Ireland, if
00:09:10you like, because at that stage, I had had a good following here.
00:09:14And there's a strange story that this guy from Curb Records in America, who are a big company, they're kind
00:09:20of more country music, but they he was in his car and driving in L.A.
00:09:23And he had the radio on and he had public radio on and someone played No Frontiers the song.
00:09:30And he had to pull in, stop the traffic, pulled in, rang the station because he didn't catch the name
00:09:35before, you know, the introduction.
00:09:37Brilliant. So he found out who I was, where I was. And he was in Dublin the following week.
00:09:42No way. Yeah. He wanted to nail it was the word. He was told to nail it when he arrived.
00:09:47So he nailed it. So that was the start for America. We toured America twice a year after that.
00:09:52We, you know, we got a deal in King Records in Japan, Australia, all over Europe.
00:09:59There's this lovely thing about was there a hi fi firm in Japan?
00:10:03This is how good your voice is. What did they used to do?
00:10:07There was a hi fi. They used to use songs from the No Frontiers album because they loved they loved
00:10:13the pure sound that it was not just my voice, the general sound.
00:10:17And, you know, they used it to test hi fi. To test the hi fives, to see which one had
00:10:22the best sound.
00:10:23They used Mary Black's voice to work it out. I mean, this is just amazing.
00:10:26Yeah. Yeah. That was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So from there, you had another very small album called A Woman's Heart.
00:10:35I mean, that was just. That was a small album at the time. Really?
00:10:39There was no big, big plan for that album whatsoever. Somebody came up to me and Joe and said, I
00:10:47think there was, they had a label that they had other, other artists on.
00:10:50We said, well, bring a little compilation out. And it was looking more and more like women. And I said,
00:10:55why don't you leave it all women then?
00:10:56And I know Eleanor McAvoy has a great song. She was playing with me in the band at the time.
00:11:02And she was singing these songs backstage and Woman's Heart was one I heard.
00:11:05And I thought, that'd be perfect. An all woman album. And, you know, they said, oh, well, Eleanor hasn't really
00:11:11recorded anything. She wasn't that well known.
00:11:12They wanted sort of more established artists. So I said, well, I'll, I'll sing with her. We got it went
00:11:17in one night, late at night, recorded in three or four hours.
00:11:21Bill, my, my guitar player played on it. And yeah, the song itself took off. That was the, I suppose
00:11:28it was the flagship of the album.
00:11:30But I mean, the talent back then too, you know, people like Dolores and Sharon Shannon, Maura O'Connell, Francis,
00:11:38my sister and Eleanor, you know, it was, we were a great bunch of women out there doing it.
00:11:42You know, and the music was, was good. You mentioned Dolores, Dolores Cain there who lost during the week.
00:11:49I know you have a lot of fond memories of her being on the road and getting each other through.
00:11:56Yes. Yeah, we were, we, see, I joined Dedan back in 1985. And, you know, Dolores had been in the
00:12:04band and then she was, had moved to England and, but she came back into the band when I was
00:12:08there.
00:12:08So we had a glorious two years almost of touring with Dedan and Dolores in the band. And we both
00:12:16had young kids at home.
00:12:17Danny was only about, I remember one particular tour. He was only about three or four months old.
00:12:22Wow. Committed to the tour. And it was hard. That is tough. And Connor, the eldest, he was only three
00:12:27and a half or something.
00:12:28So I, Dolores had a little boy as well. So we kind of, we kind of propped each other up
00:12:34a good bit, you know, but she would always be there for me when I was feeling a bit down.
00:12:39And I remember this one story she reminded me of more recently. She said, do you remember that night we
00:12:44were staying at a hotel?
00:12:46We used to share a room, you know, and it was in America or somewhere. And she said, I knew
00:12:51you were in bad form. I knew you were upset.
00:12:53And we turned the lights off and, and I sat up right in the bed and she said to me,
00:12:58what's wrong, Lovine? You know, what's, what's wrong, Mary?
00:13:02And I said, I can't see Danny's face. And that was a killer. And she just put her arms around
00:13:08me and, and, and we cried, you know, and she cried because she was missing her, her Joseph as well.
00:13:13So, you know, that's, it was hard, but there were great times as well. I mean, we laughed, me and
00:13:18Dolores. God, did we laugh. It was just, you know, she's so funny, super.
00:13:24I mean, her, her presence on stage was huge when she opened her mouth to sing. I mean, it was,
00:13:29people were transfixed. And that was something that was special to me as well.
00:13:33And I learned a lot from Dolores in those early days. But she was funny. She, she made me laugh,
00:13:39you know, and it's a big, big loss. It's a big loss.
00:13:41I went down to the family yesterday in Galway and I met, you know, the, the, the, the family, the
00:13:46brothers, sisters, her daughter and so on. And they're devastated. So sad. Big, big loss to this country and to
00:13:52music.
00:13:53A huge loss and so many lovely tributes to her this week. We have an amazing clip here, which is
00:14:00Dolores and yourself and Emily Harris.
00:14:03All right. This is just absolutely gorgeous. And all of you together, there's no better tribute than this.
00:14:11Sonny, don't go away. I'm here alone. Your daddy's sailor never comes home. Nights are so long. Silence goes on.
00:14:33I'm feeling so tired. Not all that strong.
00:14:41Sonny, don't go away.
00:14:43Sonny, don't go away.
00:14:44Yes. That was in Nashville.
00:14:50That was, that was a, um, a thing that Philip King had organized, a thing called bringing it all back
00:14:57home and a group of Irish musicians went to Nashville. And we intermingled with American, brilliant American musicians like John
00:15:04Prine, Richard Thompson, Emily Lou, of course, and lots more. And it was an incredible week of music. Incredible. But
00:15:12what a lovely, what a lovely thing to have there.
00:15:15I mean, just looking at you guys there and you're talking about a woman's heart and you know, the women
00:15:20on that tour blazing a trail for female artists. Were you aware of that at the time?
00:15:25Uh, I, I wasn't fully aware of it. I, I realized afterwards that there was a lot of young women
00:15:32who were, who did come back, come to me and say, you inspired me to go and, uh, you know,
00:15:38do music or sing or write or, you know, or even just to do follow their dream, you know, because
00:15:43I suppose I was coming out of a time when, you know, music was still very much dominated by, by
00:15:48male, male, males.
00:15:50And, and it was, it was, uh, tougher to make, you know, to be a woman on the road and
00:15:55be the front person, you know, in Ireland, it wasn't so much.
00:15:58I mean, I only had to look at that group of women in women's heart there, you know, that there
00:16:02were women doing it, you know, here, but I don't know how much it was happening in other places, you
00:16:06know? So it was nice.
00:16:07Whenever you see the next generation, people like Seamat singing your songs, do you get a kick out of that?
00:16:13Oh, it's really funny. I was at the awards. I was at the, uh, Choice Awards last week, just went
00:16:17with Roisin and, um, uh, I was, I, Seamat won, uh, best artist and best album and I was amazed
00:16:25by her.
00:16:25Her voice is just incredible. But afterwards I was getting into bed. I went home afterwards and, um, friend of
00:16:31mine who, who, uh, who was hanging around later met Seamat.
00:16:36And she said, oh, Mary Black was hoping to meet you. Mary Black! She said, I get this video of
00:16:40Seamat singing Katie down to me at one o'clock in the morning and I'm in bed.
00:16:44And it was just so lovely to be think that she said, oh, all my family know all your songs.
00:16:49We sing them at sessions. And, you know, it was just amazing to see that, you know?
00:16:54I mean, you know, all of that new generation, you know, they, they're huge fans. You've worked with them all
00:16:59over the years.
00:17:00One of my favorite stories is you ended up working with the comedian Steve Martin. How did that happen?
00:17:05Oh yeah. Well, Steve just contacted me again. He would have heard the music and, um,
00:17:09Because he's a bluegrass picker isn't he?
00:17:11He plays a banjo, a five string banjo and he's very into music and he wrote all the music on
00:17:16that, on that album.
00:17:17Uh, an album called, uh, I'm trying to think of it now.
00:17:21This was an album that, that he was doing and he wanted you to fly to America.
00:17:25Yes. Yes. He said to me, I had just come back from America and he said, if you fly out,
00:17:29could you just record this song?
00:17:31It's the title track of the album. And, um, I just turned and I said, I can't face another flight
00:17:37out.
00:17:37I've just come back. I'm exhausted. And I didn't want to leave the kids again. So he said, don't worry,
00:17:43we'll fly in.
00:17:43We're flying in and the following weekend, he flew in, in his private jet with his engineer and another musician
00:17:51friend.
00:17:52And we, we set it up in the studio, a studio that I use all the time, Bill Chandler's studio.
00:17:57And, uh, so he, he was ahead of me.
00:17:59And I remember he said, he said to my producer, cause I'm really nervous meeting her. And I'm thinking, what?
00:18:06Um, but it, it was lovely.
00:18:08And, uh, that album went on to get a Grammy. So it's the closest thing ever got to a Grammy.
00:18:12So yeah, that was, yeah, we went for a great session afterwards.
00:18:15That's what happened. We went to the, uh, yeah, to, to the, um, to the cobblestone. Yeah, the cobblestone. It's
00:18:20a great place for music.
00:18:21And, uh, he slipped in, he had a hat on and sat in with all the musicians and pipers and
00:18:27banjos and fiddles.
00:18:28And we had a great night and he had to, he was like, he was like, uh, you know, Cinderella
00:18:32running for his, his, he ran out the door because his flight had to leave at a certain time.
00:18:38His, his private jet. Well, look, he didn't get that, his private jet. Well, look, he didn't get that Grammy
00:18:43without you.
00:18:44And whenever he knew that you were on the show tonight, he wanted to send you this little message.
00:18:49Oh, lovely. Have a look at this. Oh.
00:18:50Hi, Mary Black. Hi, Late Late Show. And hello, Ireland. It's Steve Martin here.
00:18:55Just, uh, saying my tribute to Mary Black, whose music has been so important to me, uh, my whole life.
00:19:02Uh, I've made me love Irish music. It made me love that, that sound. Um, when I hear Cole Cannon,
00:19:09I cry.
00:19:10When I hear a song for Ireland, I cry and I'm only this much Irish, so I don't know how
00:19:15that works.
00:19:16It just must be the emotion in the voice.
00:19:18I even wrote a song and, uh, asked Mary to sing it on a record and she did.
00:19:22And we flew over and, uh, we recorded the song.
00:19:26And afterwards we went to a bar and Mary spontaneously sang song for Ireland and shut down the pub.
00:19:32It just, it went to total silence.
00:19:34I even used, uh, one of the black songs, black family songs in, uh, one of my movies.
00:19:39I did a song for, uh, a simple twist of fate.
00:19:41And it was called wheel the perambulator, which is, you know, an unlikely song to have in a movie, but
00:19:47it worked beautifully.
00:19:48So Mary, I'm just saying, I salute you. I love you. And thank you for your great career.
00:20:04It's amazing. And, you know, cause I always admired his work and I found him so funny too.
00:20:10Like, you know, in some of those movies, um, but I never knew he was a musician myself until he
00:20:14contacted me.
00:20:14So that was, it was all new to me. And, uh, we had a great time. We really did.
00:20:19In the short time we were together, we had a great time.
00:20:21Well, look, it's clear that, uh, Steve thinks a lot of you. We think so much of you here.
00:20:24And the good news is, is that Mary Black is going to be staying with us.
00:20:31And you're also going to be singing for us again.
00:20:34And we're also going to be bringing out some other people, uh, who know you and love you.
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00:22:27Welcome back to the Lillet Show, the Queen of Irish Folk.
00:22:31Mary Black is still with us.
00:22:36And as we celebrate a career that has brought audiences of all ages together for over 40 years,
00:22:42we're joined by two performers from the next generation who couldn't be more inspired by you, Mary.
00:22:47Let's say hello to two of your three kids.
00:22:50We have Roshino and Danny O'Reilly.
00:23:15Roshino and Danny meet Mary.
00:23:17Hi, Roshino.
00:23:19This is so cool.
00:23:21Roshino, let's start with you.
00:23:23When did you realise what a big deal this woman was?
00:23:27It's tough to say, really.
00:23:28She's always been a big deal.
00:23:30I think when Danny and Connor were younger, they grew up when she wasn't as well known.
00:23:34But by the time I came along, it was no frontiers and it was walking down Grafton Street and getting
00:23:38stopped.
00:23:40I'd say there was a point when I was about three or four, it was before I was in school.
00:23:45Mom, you were giving a talk to a group of school students and you took me along.
00:23:52And I remember being in the crowd and all these kids, you were giving a speech or something.
00:23:55I don't even remember what it was.
00:23:56All the kids were looking up like, oh my God, really impressed.
00:23:59And I was like, oh my God, these kids think my mom is cool.
00:24:02Like, you know, so I was so bold as brass back then.
00:24:06I just walked up on stage and held your hand just in the way to say, this is my mom.
00:24:11Just so you know.
00:24:12There we go.
00:24:13Look, that's the pic.
00:24:13And so a photographer snapped the photo of it.
00:24:15Yeah.
00:24:16And that photo's been in our bathroom for years.
00:24:17Look at the look.
00:24:19The look is so cute.
00:24:20That is just super mom right there, isn't it?
00:24:23Very proud, yeah.
00:24:23And as the only girl, were you given special treatment then in the house?
00:24:28I think so.
00:24:28Or is that a question for Dani?
00:24:29She was the baby as well.
00:24:31Yeah.
00:24:32And things, you know, I could bring her on tour a bit more because I could afford to
00:24:35get someone who'd look after her and I was on stage and stuff.
00:24:39So she did get more trips than the poor boys.
00:24:41Yeah.
00:24:41Connor's down there.
00:24:42He didn't get much of a look at it either.
00:24:45But yeah, no, Roisin got a bit spoiled.
00:24:48I did.
00:24:48I was lucky.
00:24:49But like when I was left at home, you know, I was the only girl.
00:24:52So I think she felt bad.
00:24:54So she'd take me out of school.
00:24:55And I was only young.
00:24:56So it didn't matter.
00:24:57Yeah, you were younger.
00:24:58These were getting a bit old to be taking them out of school.
00:25:00That's the problem.
00:25:01We couldn't miss the football as well.
00:25:03Well, that's it.
00:25:04I mean, you know, God came first.
00:25:05Absolutely.
00:25:06And people always say to me, oh, it's like your mom must have pushed you into the music.
00:25:09Like, but, you know, my mom would be more asking me about how's the football going
00:25:13and how are you playing.
00:25:14And, you know, my dad would be going, are you writing any songs, you know?
00:25:16So it was sort of, we had that growing up as well.
00:25:19Yeah.
00:25:19And the best of both worlds.
00:25:20It was a great, it was great fun.
00:25:22You know, even backstage, we were watching there and someone in the green room was asking
00:25:26me, God, your mom was away when you were three months old.
00:25:28And, but like, we, we had a great life and, and, and we, we, we loved it.
00:25:33And then when, when she was home, she was fully in mom mode.
00:25:37Yeah.
00:25:38I did everything.
00:25:38She'd be cooking and dropping us to, to school and everything.
00:25:43And, you know, so we, we had the best both worlds and, and yeah, we got to grow up and,
00:25:47and see her
00:25:48perform and, and, and see her career, you know?
00:25:51So it was amazing.
00:25:51Yeah.
00:25:52And the news, in those early days, Danny, I believe you were also doing a bit of PR for
00:25:55your mom.
00:25:55Is that right?
00:25:56Yeah.
00:25:56I was like, well, I still am.
00:25:58Like people come to the crown of the shows all over the world now and will come up to
00:26:01me and say, ah, you know, I grew up listening to your mother.
00:26:05And I go, no, I actually grew up listening to her.
00:26:07It was get out of bed, clean your room, you know, all the normal mommy things.
00:26:12You grew up not listening to your mother.
00:26:12Yeah, exactly.
00:26:13Trying to ignore it.
00:26:14But no, yeah.
00:26:15When I was in school, I remember I must've been about fifth, fifth or sixth class.
00:26:18And it's the word started to spread obviously around the other kids, parents or whatever.
00:26:22And the next thing I was being asked for, for Mary Black autographs, cause this was before
00:26:26selfies or any of that.
00:26:27So my mom would be signing, like she had these pictures of herself and I'd be getting like, I need
00:26:33another five today, ma'am, and I'd be handing them out in school.
00:26:36Like, you know.
00:26:36You should have been charged.
00:26:37I should have been charged, yeah.
00:26:39I remember Connor saying to me one time, I was picking him up from school and he says,
00:26:43ma'am, when you're picking me up, will you not wear the leather jacket and your sunglasses?
00:26:47Cause he was mortified.
00:26:49All the other mothers weren't wearing that sort of thing.
00:26:52Enough of the rock and roll man.
00:26:54He was mortified.
00:26:56I mean, the music obviously was a huge influence in the house, Roisin.
00:26:59Yeah.
00:27:00Massive.
00:27:01And was it always something that was, you know, gonna come your way?
00:27:04It's tough to know.
00:27:05Like people say, oh, it must have been such a mad upbringing.
00:27:08But for us, it was the norm.
00:27:09We didn't know anything else.
00:27:11And I do think growing up around the black family, you know, everyone have their party
00:27:15piece, no matter what age, young or old.
00:27:17And it was something I always loved.
00:27:20And, and mom and dad, they all, they always encouraged us, you know, to sing and to do it
00:27:24if we wanted to do it.
00:27:25But at the same time, it was once we got older and particularly me and Danny started thinking
00:27:30about doing it seriously.
00:27:31It was always that, well, maybe you should get a degree first, you know, and which we did.
00:27:35And there was always sort of, you know, it doesn't matter how much talent you have.
00:27:38It's, it's about luck.
00:27:40And it's about, you know, the look of the draw sometimes.
00:27:42So we were, you know, we were, they, they gave us the best of both worlds in, in encouraging us.
00:27:49They told us how hard it would be, but I think they knew once, once how much we loved it,
00:27:53that there wasn't any stopping us really.
00:27:54Once you have a passion for it, it's something you have to do.
00:27:56Yeah.
00:27:57You know, and that's why.
00:27:57I think I always, I always say, in more recent years, I noticed that like,
00:28:01when my mom and dad would be at home, they'd be talking about what's going on in your career
00:28:04or when the next gig is or how the album is selling or, you know, and subconsciously I could see
00:28:10that you're really enjoying it. Like it's, it's not like work.
00:28:13It was be chatting around the kitchen table of what's going on.
00:28:16What's the next gig? And this is selling well or whatever.
00:28:18And I'd say subconsciously that definitely was ingrained in us.
00:28:21And going, that looks like a fun job.
00:28:23And also she was really encouraging. Like I always tell the early story of when I started playing guitar
00:28:28and Connor, my brother was much better than me at guitar.
00:28:31And I wanted to give up and my mom had to bribe me and she paid me to do the
00:28:37guitar lessons,
00:28:37five pounds a week to stick with it.
00:28:41I said, if you don't want, if you want to stop at the end of the year, you can stop.
00:28:45But finish the year.
00:28:46But finish the year. And by that stage, he was, come on, leaps and bounds.
00:28:50And once you get over that little hump, yeah, it became easier.
00:28:53And you also was, you're always and still are very encouraging to write our own music as well,
00:28:57which I think, you know.
00:28:59I kept telling them that's where the money was.
00:29:00You know what I mean?
00:29:02Write your old songs. That's where the money is.
00:29:05We'll look.
00:29:0620 cent for Addicted to Progress being played there by the house band on the walk in.
00:29:11Roshan, you are going to sing for us tonight. What are you going to sing?
00:29:14This is a song actually I just released and I wrote it about a year or so ago.
00:29:20Myself and Mam and Danny were invited into the hospice to sing at Christmas and like the trees.
00:29:26And when we went, we first went in, I was just so blown away that day by how amazing Mam
00:29:31was.
00:29:32She was like in like a light, like shaking hands with all the older people and telling stories about the
00:29:37old days.
00:29:38Me and Danny were sort of like deer in headlights, you know, and she was just so in her element.
00:29:41And I started writing a song about that.
00:29:43And then it became a song about growing up with a working Mam and how that was really hard,
00:29:48but how amazing it was when she came home to Westfield Road, back home to Ireland.
00:29:52And yeah, just how great she is really.
00:29:54OK, well, look, this is a song all about you, Mary.
00:29:57Roshan is going to sing it now if you want to head over there and get yourself ready.
00:30:01While Roshan does that, Mary, I can see by the look in your eye, you're proud of all three of
00:30:05them.
00:30:05How proud are you of these guys?
00:30:07Yeah, my two granddaughters are down there too.
00:30:09They are indeed.
00:30:10Bonnie and Fia.
00:30:11Yeah, give us a wave there, girls.
00:30:13Now you are.
00:30:13Connor plays a little bit as well, but he wouldn't be one for stepping up on a stage and playing.
00:30:19You know, he always was a good guitar player, great bass player.
00:30:22He played on some of my tracks.
00:30:24And Fia is a great singer.
00:30:25And Bonnie loves music as well.
00:30:27That's her favourite subject in school.
00:30:28So it's going on down to the generations.
00:30:30It's been passed down, which is absolutely brilliant.
00:30:33OK, well, look, I think Roshan is almost ready to go here.
00:30:38So performing magic for her mother, Mary Black.
00:30:43Would you please welcome Roshan Oh.
00:30:46Applause
00:31:04The room was loud with the heart of people staring.
00:31:11Hoping their faces that we made this day.
00:31:15I stand awkward, suddenly unsure of what I'm saying
00:31:22My brother next to me, for once, feeling the same
00:31:29Oh, but Mary works her magic in this place
00:31:35She's full of grace
00:31:36I turn around and she's already sat down next to her palpably
00:31:42Sharing stories of Old Charming Street with him and Marguerite
00:31:49Who knows her sister from the work she does for Ireland and this city
00:31:55And she's so proud and you can see it on her face
00:32:01And every person there is worn by her embrace
00:32:07She is magic in this place
00:32:23And as a child there were times I missed her dearly
00:32:29She'd say, tug on your heartstring and I'll always know you're near me
00:32:36But our house always felt lonelier without her in it
00:32:42My brothers teased me, but I know they felt the same
00:32:48Oh, but Mary worked her magic in that place
00:32:54She ran the race just like all those strong young mothers
00:32:58Working hard to feed their young ones
00:33:02Even though it hurt her desperately
00:33:05Each time she had to leave
00:33:09My favorite memories are of her coming back home to Ireland
00:33:14Home to Westfield
00:33:15Through the blue door and into her arms we'd raise
00:33:21And all the sadness held was lost in her embrace
00:33:27She was magic in that place
00:33:33She was magic in that place
00:33:43And through the years there were times she'd take me with her
00:33:50On the road we'd go, the rock star and her little
00:33:55To America or Germany
00:33:59The crowds would always follow
00:34:02With twelve good men and her steering
00:34:06Oh, but Mary worked her magic in each place
00:34:13She ran the race
00:34:15The crowds would cheer in every city
00:34:18Singing sunny babes and cake
00:34:21So much for a girl from Charmin Street
00:34:25In two rooms with no heat
00:34:28And now she's known for all the songs
00:34:31She sings for Ireland and this city
00:34:34And I am so proud
00:34:37And you can see it on my face
00:34:40Cause all who hear her voice
00:34:44Are lost in her embrace
00:34:46She is magic in this place
00:34:51She is magic in this place
00:35:00All who hear her voice
00:35:05Are lost in her embrace
00:35:12She is magic in this place
00:35:18OK, please
00:35:38We are lost in her embrace
00:35:47watching you do that it was so so special thank you it's hard to do it
00:35:52there when she's looking at me I get emotional I know I know I could see that
00:35:56I mean what is it like for for both of you guys know that she's gonna be
00:35:59hanging the makeup it's strange yes bittersweet isn't it is I think it's
00:36:04sad like for me you know I have my little five-month-old at home and she's
00:36:09not gonna see my mom up on stage you know when she gets older then lots of
00:36:14amazing
00:36:19with me and Danny but I like Bonnie and Fia have seen her on stage and seen
00:36:23that part of her and it's it's amazing to see it like you know I always say when
00:36:27people say you know as a woman getting into the industry like this if you can
00:36:30see it you can be it and you know she has she has made that for me you know to
00:36:35be
00:36:35able to come into this career and feel like I could do it it's it's easy when I
00:36:38have a mom like her you know
00:36:47it's not just the family that want to pay tribute to tonight we also have some other
00:36:52people who have sent some messages if you would take a little look at this oh
00:36:57Mary thank you for all you have done for all of us for your talent for sharing your talent
00:37:02for the inspiration for trailblazing for women I'm lucky that I got to record you and to hug you and
00:37:10to
00:37:10know you you're funny as hell and I wish you all the best I hope to see you soon
00:37:15and thank you go meela meela for all you've done
00:37:19hello to Mary and Joe from Janice and Pat here in Florida hello my dear I hear
00:37:25you're retiring not going to be on the stage anymore I know how that feels as you
00:37:31well know you deserve every award in the world my dear have a wonderful time and
00:37:37we hope to see you and Joe soon big love from our home to yours a huge
00:37:42congratulations to you Mary on the great honor of the tribute tonight on the
00:37:47late late it's so well deserved and I hope you can understand or realize the
00:37:54huge impact that you've had on some so many people including myself over the
00:38:00years you're an absolute legend Mary and a trailblazer so thank you for that so
00:38:05enjoy the tour Mary I'm sure it's going to be absolutely fantastic but more
00:38:11importantly enjoy the break as well so thank you for the music thank you for all
00:38:17those legendary recordings and thank you for your precious friendship Mary and it's
00:38:24so much appreciated
00:38:35see Imelda Mae Sharon Shannon Sharon Shannon's dog they all want to get in on it
00:38:40they all want to get in on it you know as you approach you know these final dates I know
00:38:47you
00:38:47probably don't want to think about this moment but the last gig that last bye how is that going to
00:38:52feel
00:38:53that's that's a thought that came into my head and that was the first time I
00:38:56allowed myself well that I actually really felt emotional before it even
00:39:00happening it is going to be very emotional the band I have are amazing Pat Crowley
00:39:07who's my piano player since 1985 that's over 40 years Bill is with me over 30 years
00:39:14and the rest of the band were like a family this is another family that I'm going to
00:39:18actually be leaving you know at the end of this tour and that's very tough and all my crew are
00:39:24amazing like it's not just like there's so much goes into a Mary Black concert it's not just me
00:39:30and they they keep me up and and make me sound better than I am and they're brilliant musicians
00:39:36and I'm going to miss them very much and of course the people as well like I have made friends
00:39:42with with
00:39:42a lot of my fans they'd start off being a fan and I'm eventually one of my one of my
00:39:47fans I remember
00:39:48Vonnie Godliver she's she died there a couple of years back she she stayed in my house and she cook
00:39:54up for us she's from Indonesia originally and she's living in Germany huge fan she said I got her through
00:39:58a cancer uh and that the music the music is great healing and a lot of people come to me
00:40:04saying things
00:40:05like that but Vonnie became a really good friend and they'd say oh Vonnie's coming to stage and I
00:40:09like great got a lovely food you know because she'd make all this fabulous Indonesian food and uh yeah
00:40:15with so many friends you know fans have become friends yeah well look you are going to sing one
00:40:20more time for us but before that we would just like to say that on behalf of everybody here at
00:40:26the
00:40:26Late Late Show and all of your devoted friends thank you so so much for the music that has been
00:40:32the
00:40:32soundtrack to so many of our lives and in good times and in bad times your music has been there
00:40:39for us
00:40:39uh we want to thank you for that and then before you sail into the sunset Mary we want you
00:40:45to know
00:40:45that in a week where we have been celebrating the best of Irish you are the best of that and
00:40:51you are
00:40:52the best of us Mary thank you so much so we would like to present you tonight with this our
00:40:58Late Late Late Show Legend Award
00:41:00wow oh my god
00:41:02thank you so much
00:41:05oh my god
00:41:08I didn't think you had a legend award
00:41:10we got a only for legends
00:41:12only for legends
00:41:14legends yeah
00:41:15there you go
00:41:16that's fabulous
00:41:16thank you thank you so much
00:41:18I think Roshi's going to give me a sing with me on this next song
00:41:21yeah sure
00:41:21yeah okay
00:41:22this is amazing
00:41:23I'll mind that for you if we want to just leave that there for a wee second if you guys
00:41:27want to go and get yourselves ready
00:41:29uh while Mary uh is getting ready with the Roshin I can tell you that Mary's Slantour is almost completely
00:41:36sold out
00:41:37though if you're really really quick there might be one or two tickets still available for
00:41:42the National Stadium in Dublin on May the 26th good luck with that
00:41:46see ticketmaster.ie for more details or quite possibly no details at all
00:41:52and
00:41:53Mary's new album
00:41:55this is so so cool
00:41:56uh her triple album anthology
00:41:59it is out today
00:42:01listen to it
00:42:02read it
00:42:03it is all in there
00:42:05it is such a beautiful album
00:42:08uh with so many beautiful songs
00:42:10and now
00:42:11I can't quite believe I am saying this
00:42:13but singing on the late late show
00:42:16for the very last time
00:42:18with Carolina Rua
00:42:20it's Mary Black
00:42:21you're welcome
00:42:22you're welcome
00:42:27to come to
00:42:32conclusions
00:42:33oh
00:42:34Carolina Rua
00:42:35has a hundred
00:42:37my confusion
00:42:38where's for me to choose
00:42:41which quarter
00:42:42depending
00:42:43to Susan
00:42:45make me blue
00:42:46or the redhead
00:42:48down my ten
00:42:49now
00:42:50Carolina Rua
00:42:52has my heart
00:42:53and all I want to do
00:42:55is go down the widely road
00:42:57where my Carolina goes
00:43:00go down the crooked road
00:43:02where Carolina goes to school
00:43:06but Carolina Rua
00:43:08do you love me?
00:43:09tell me true
00:43:10tell me
00:43:11we love me
00:43:13you love me
00:43:14you love me
00:43:23you love me
00:43:24do you love me
00:43:25you love me
00:43:30let my GPS
00:43:38don't say
00:43:41My Carolina goes, go down the crooked road
00:43:46Where Carolina goes to school
00:43:49My Carolina blue, do you love me?
00:43:53Tell me true, tell me
00:43:55Did you walk me down?
00:43:57Da-da-da-dee-dum
00:43:58Ba-dee-dum, da-dee-dee-da
00:44:00Ba-dee-dum
00:44:02Da-da-dee-dum, da-da-dee-dum
00:44:15Oh, Carolina blue
00:44:18Hides my heart
00:44:19And all I want to do
00:44:21Is go down the widely road
00:44:23Where my Carolina goes
00:44:26Go down the crooked road
00:44:29Where Carolina goes to school
00:44:32Oh, Carolina blue
00:44:34Do you love me?
00:44:36Tell me true, tell me
00:44:38Did you walk me down?
00:44:39Da-da-da-dee-dum
00:44:41Ba-dee-dum
00:44:43Ba-dee-dee-dee-dum
00:44:44Ba-dee-dum
00:44:45Ba-dee-dum
00:44:46Da-da-dee-dum
00:44:47Ba-da-dee-dum
00:44:48Ba-da-dee-dum
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00:46:20Still to come on the show tonight,
00:46:21Colleen Rooney will be here
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00:46:26We're back after these.
00:46:50Welcome back to The Lee Lit Show.
00:46:52So, my next guest was catapulted into the limelight
00:46:56as a Liverpool schoolgirl
00:46:57when she started dating a promising young footballer called Wayne.
00:47:01Since then, she's built her own business empire,
00:47:03survived rats in the I'm a Celebrity jungle
00:47:06and is well on the way to raising a premiership team of her own.
00:47:09Always top of the league,
00:47:11please give a LATE Lit Show welcome to Colleen Rooney!
00:47:33Welcome to The Lee Late Show.
00:47:34Thank you for having me.
00:47:35now a Rooney you started out as a McLaughlin you're called Colleen I'm
00:47:40assuming can we say welcome home Colleen yeah you can yeah what's it is there an
00:47:45Irish connection so my dad's grandparents were from Mayo so yeah so
00:47:51this is a few times I've climbed Croke-Patrick a few times and I got not
00:47:56not once in a few yeah twice but people say it's good luck if you do it three
00:48:00times is it okay yeah I'm not holy enough to know but yeah we've got a
00:48:07connection to Ireland and I love coming here okay well look it's great to have
00:48:11you here I know family is very very important to you you have four boys off
00:48:17your own and and we in at home people talk about having enough for a football
00:48:22team I mean I think you've got the world's best five-a-side team was that was
00:48:26that always the plan no I always thought I'd have three kids and then because I
00:48:30had them quite young I thought you know what I'll have another one but four is
00:48:34enough I could look after loads of kids but it's the attention boys want so much
00:48:39attention especially from the mom yeah yeah I'm having a wee look there so the
00:48:44youngest one there he's getting a bit of mama attention there so which one is
00:48:49there which one's easiest handled who's the one that causes the fun and the grief
00:48:53so the one next to me on the right he's trouble yeah does he does he know he's
00:48:59trouble no he's trouble but I went to parents evening last night actually and I
00:49:04was 10 minutes late because he's decided to give himself a haircut before I went
00:49:07and then when ballistic because it wasn't right so I said why didn't you just wait
00:49:12till I make an appointment at the barbers and he couldn't so he was said well I'm
00:49:16not going to school tomorrow I said you are so we said well I'm going with a hat on so
00:49:20I
00:49:21had to tell the teacher that he might come in with a hat on but he hasn't he
00:49:24was bad so like you're saying boys need attention and all teams need a manager
00:49:29and an assistant manager who would be the boss at home yourself or way and who's
00:49:33the assistant yeah I would say I was the better manager yeah yeah you're the
00:49:37manager yeah yeah and what type of assistant is Wayne not a very good one no
00:49:45well he's in charge today while I'm here so he's and I've checked in he's done a
00:49:49good job up to now okay that's what he's told you yeah yeah the party is on with
00:49:54the lads and you guys were put into the spotlight at such a young age I mean you
00:50:00started dating at 16 your paparazzi following you to school at that age how
00:50:04tough was that it wasn't tough at the time to be honest but yeah I think we were both
00:50:09young we were both oblivious and and we had each other to fall back on we went
00:50:14through it together and but now when I look back and my son's 16 it's young and
00:50:21you know I think the main thing for us is we've always had a really good team
00:50:25around us we've got good parents that have always protected and guided us right
00:50:30and you know I think that helped us a lot you started dating when you were 16 you
00:50:36knew each other from 12 was it Wayne that made the run-in at the start of course it
00:50:41was he used to stand I used to I went to the all-girls school Catholic girl school he
00:50:48went to the all boys Catholic school and he what used to come and stand outside
00:50:53school waiting for us to come out and he always used to whistle gives a date in the
00:50:58summer we used to wear pale lemon shirts so they all used to get water guns and
00:51:03squirters so our shirts went see through a different time coming a different time yeah
00:51:11but yet no he he done the run yeah running after me but I made him wait for a few
00:51:17years
00:51:17okay and I believe he also enlisted the help of the brothers your brothers yeah he did say to
00:51:21them I'll get you a pair of football boots if you get me a date with your colleague but yeah
00:51:26I
00:51:26waited till I done with GCSEs and then I went on a date and then it's like here I am
00:51:32now yeah yeah and
00:51:33that whole relationship your whole life has kind of lived in the public eye you know you started going
00:51:39out with a footballer when the term wag was invented there was yourself there was Victoria Beckham there was
00:51:45Cheryl Cole was that any fun or was that just a pain no I you know we have fun together
00:51:53I think the wag label
00:51:54to me it annoyed me a bit because it put us all into one category and we were all our
00:52:00own individual
00:52:01pairs people so I think the people's perception of a wag was you know you were the lady of leisure
00:52:08you
00:52:08drink champagne you go and shopping all the time but it wasn't you know we've we have families we've got
00:52:13kids we do school runs and stuff that everyone else does as well as being lucky to have nice times
00:52:20as
00:52:20well but it wasn't all the time but when you were hanging out you had a bit of crack yeah
00:52:24yeah of
00:52:25course yeah I mean we have that we can tell that from that picture there that's that's you having a
00:52:30little bit of crack Cheryl having a bit of crack in Victoria uh yeah well I mean some of yous
00:52:34were
00:52:34having crack there she has got a really good sense she does to be fair she's got a very dry
00:52:39sense of
00:52:39steamer yeah she's good crack um she actually is she actually is you know one of the things that you've
00:52:49spoken
00:52:49about quite a lot is the wagatha Christie case whenever Rebecca Vardy was found out to be leaking stories
00:52:56about you I know you've spoken a lot about it were you surprised about what a big deal that became
00:53:02because everybody was obsessed with that I just didn't think it would blow up like it did you know I
00:53:07wanted to put a stop to
00:53:09something so I thought right I'm just going to say it and hopefully that's it done. So you thought
00:53:13that was going to be the end of it? Yeah however like years later I was standing up in court
00:53:19which
00:53:19wasn't a nice experience to go through and you know I suffered you know the whole way through
00:53:27that silently in a way you know where it was just it was I just didn't want to go and
00:53:34stand up in a
00:53:35court for everyone else to. You knew you were right but the stress of having to go through it is
00:53:39the
00:53:39thing isn't it? It was so stressful and it put stress on me I felt like I wasn't you know
00:53:44my
00:53:45personality wasn't the same I wasn't focused on being a mum and giving everything so yeah I was
00:53:51glad you know when that court you know when the court date ended I was just glad that that was
00:53:57over and then the verdict come obviously it went my way which I was so pleased about and you know
00:54:02I've moved on from it now. And you're pleased to have it in the rear view mirror? Yeah yeah. You
00:54:07are currently over here you have a new collection with Primark which is known here of course as
00:54:13Pennies. You have a smile on your face about this what is it about this part of your career that
00:54:18you're enjoying so much? I always think things come back in you know round in life and I always remember
00:54:24visiting Ireland when I was 12 and I used to it was in the summer holidays we came for a
00:54:30trip
00:54:31and I used to always buy my friends a little something you know remember when you were younger
00:54:35it used to be a key ring or a bookmark or a pencil and I went into Pennies with my
00:54:40mum and it was my
00:54:41first experience of Pennies and they had slippers on sale for two pounds I couldn't believe that
00:54:46these slippers were two pounds so all my friends got a pair of slippers from Pennies and I remember
00:54:51going to the till with the basket and they said the overall price and I was like wow you get
00:54:56all that
00:54:57for that amount because Primark hadn't opened in the UK at that stage yeah so then it opened in
00:55:02Manchester I remember going there and then obviously now it's everywhere but you know when
00:55:08I got approached to do a collection I jumped at the chance because it's I just feel like the target
00:55:14audience is my people you know it's people you're relatable and you get good quality for great prices
00:55:21and I've loved working with the team and the collection has gone down so well it is flying
00:55:27off the shelves it really is um you have a big birthday coming up I do uh are we allowed
00:55:33to say
00:55:33what that is yeah of course yeah so you're 40 in a few weeks time yeah yeah is there going
00:55:38to be a big
00:55:38party a small party are you going to try to forget about it what's the plan no I've got it's
00:55:42in the
00:55:43Easter holidays so my birthday is on Good Friday and I was debating because the kids are off school
00:55:49and what do we do do we go away but I've decided to do a number of little things with
00:55:54different
00:55:55groups of people so I've got a few friends things a few family things so yeah I'm spreading it out
00:56:01it's going to last all year now okay that's what you think what actually is happening is that Wayne
00:56:06and the boys are actually home right now plotting what they're going to surprise you with so who
00:56:09knows yeah who knows uh okay uh Colleen's range of clothes are now available in all penny stores
00:56:15nationwide uh but the good news is that you are going to stay with us uh Colleen Rooney everybody
00:56:22thank you thank you okay like Holly no stay we are I know you're looking out there and you think
00:56:33these people are nice but you may change your opinion here because there's a time of the show
00:56:37where we turn to our audience and we ask the question apart from the amazing guests that we
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00:57:26Joe have given us their full body moments collection worth over 120 euro for everybody in the audience
00:57:43the good news is Colleen is going to be staying with us after the break we're going to be sending
00:57:47one
00:57:47lucky Ireland fan to Prague with the help of the last man to send us to the World Cup Jason
00:57:52McIntyre back
00:57:53after these
00:58:14welcome back to the late show Colleen Rooney is still with us and my next guest is
00:58:23is a legendary member of Ireland's boys in green we played over 50 times for his country 100 times for
00:58:29Liverpool and 25 years ago became Bono's favorite footballer when he sent Ireland to the World Cup
00:58:35finals with this winner versus Holland at Lansdowne Road
00:58:40and a little cross in there and it's come through here
00:58:42McIntyre
00:58:56and just when I couldn't love him anymore his family also hailed from County Down would you please welcome
00:59:03Jason McIntyre
00:59:04yeah
00:59:22two Liverpool legends side by side no never met either really no oh wow although I just found out
00:59:29yeah I just found out I was all over a sister's bedroom wall that's a big
00:59:35difference Colleen that's a very big difference you're here yeah I was on the
00:59:39wallpaper okay your actual wallpaper and he was four of years I think it was
00:59:44definitely it was a father but she's red not I think I was red now yeah I'll be
00:59:50father and it was felt bob you know babsy yeah because Irish legend all the
00:59:56good look awesome Robbie so look Liverpool legends the Perrier Ireland
01:00:03legend yourself growing up in Birkenhead did you ever think you were going to be
01:00:07pulling on the green jersey no not when I was pulling pints in a pub when I was
01:00:1220 years of age watching Ireland in Italy in Italian 90 you were 20 when you were
01:00:17working in a pub yeah I was pulling pints Wow yeah and I watched the I used to make
01:00:21sure my shift was an island played because obviously I was a Liverpool fan and John
01:00:25Aldridge Ronnie Whelan Steve Staunton were playing right heroes yeah so then
01:00:30watching them go and meet the Pope and them shell suits with the green and the
01:00:33whites and it was like I just remember looking at them thinking and obviously
01:00:37then the Romania and then they play Italy I just remember thinking I'd love to play
01:00:40for them it must be brilliant but I was playing pub football so 20 years of age
01:00:44Wow so you're playing pub football then you turn pro then England were looking for
01:00:48you to play and then Big Jack came in and said you have a granddad in County Down
01:00:57apparently yeah that's kind of how it happens yeah no I was there marketeers
01:01:01in Uri that's all I know so you know you're good to go we'll get into that in a
01:01:04minute okay but yeah I turn pro when I was 20 and then 93 that was for Bolton and
01:01:12then 93 Jimmy Armfield who was working for England at the time he came to Berndon
01:01:16Park home of Bolton Wanderers Football Club and just said listen we'd love you to play
01:01:20for England and I went thanks yeah and listen it was a brilliant moment it was
01:01:26like my career you know I was working in a pub three years earlier and I was like
01:01:29next thing I'm being asked to play for England so we went out the room out the
01:01:32manager's office and I said to Bruce Roach I said I don't want to play for
01:01:35England I want to play for Ireland and he said okay I'll ring the FAI and then the
01:01:39next game Jack Charlton turned up and he approached me in the in the players
01:01:43lounge after the game and he just said listen we play Russia next week do you want to
01:01:46come over and play and I went I'd love to mr. Charlton and there that was it I
01:01:50came over and play the games Russia and then I was playing for Ireland Wow
01:01:56and all thanks to the marketeers from County Down yeah so apparently my my
01:02:04great-grandfather was from County Down and the funny story about that was after
01:02:08the World Cup in 94 and UEFA and FIFA they kind of got together and said
01:02:13listen we need them we need the players now to hold the passport from the country
01:02:18that they're actually playing for so as you know there was a lot of lads who were
01:02:22born in England playing for Ireland so we all held English passports so all I had
01:02:26to change and I remember taking a phone call off of the secretary of the FAI and
01:02:31she said listen she said we found three McAteers from County Down she said I just
01:02:36can't be bothered looking any further she said you want to pick one for your
01:02:39granddad
01:02:42should have told that story really so I picked some fella
01:02:49next game my passport was on the bed and fully fledged Irishman
01:02:54so look Colleen this is how easy it is obviously Wayne's grandparents are Irish
01:02:59you've got the Mayo connection is there a chance we might see the boys pulling on a
01:03:03green jersey they're so young yeah we haven't got to that point but you know I
01:03:08think they'd be proud to play for Ireland yeah but I don't know we don't know
01:03:13let's let them make the decision yeah so we could be related right we could be
01:03:18related yes should we find out well I mean it's probably not the DNA test that
01:03:22either was one to take so look obviously a the guys are heading to Prague this week to
01:03:32try to get a result for qualification you have already done that you scored the
01:03:38winner against Holland's 25 years ago yeah well what are your memories that
01:03:43should we have a look at the goal again that's a let's look at us again here we
01:03:46go what's your memories of this being in the wrong place at the right time
01:04:01amazing yeah it's you know you go through your career and I mean Wayne's got loads of moments
01:04:06like that you know for me it was one and it was it was a very special one but it
01:04:10was my moments and
01:04:12you know as a collective it was a great performance by the lads by the squad but it
01:04:17was nice to get the the winner and we held on win 1-0 knock Holland out and then we
01:04:21get to the
01:04:21the playoffs it was kind of where the lads are right now you know and we'd missed out on
01:04:25you know I went 94 but I didn't play in the qualifiers so I didn't really know what it was
01:04:29all about really I just sort of got on the back end but ended up going the World Cup and
01:04:34playing a
01:04:34big part of it in 94 in America which was amazing but then we missed out in 96 Jack's last
01:04:39campaign we missed out in 98 2000 and then obviously we went through the campaign 2002
01:04:45that went and happened and we we managed to get a playoff against the run and it was um you
01:04:50know
01:04:50we got through that thankfully in World Cup World Cup what I love about this Colleen is that when he
01:04:54scored that goal you two were playing in slain that night and there was a phone call that came into
01:05:00the dressing room through Mick Byrne the physio yeah from Bono yeah doesn't sound true does it
01:05:07that's how I took it when he told me it was mental right so I've obviously scored and then I
01:05:12came off
01:05:12because I got cramp and then I was just willing the final whistle to to arrive and then obviously
01:05:17the ref rose the whistle you know you find that energy again you're on the pitch and it was quite
01:05:22emotional I was going through a bit of hard time in me in my private life and stuff and I'd
01:05:26left
01:05:26Liverpool and I was you know I was gutted about that and it just things weren't going too well so
01:05:30to
01:05:31get that moment was brilliant and then I came off the pitch and then I went into the toilet to
01:05:35kind of
01:05:36compose myself because everyone was hugging and you know I was a bit emotional I was crying and all
01:05:39that in the dressing room and stuff and um I went in to compose myself and Mick Byrne the physio
01:05:45who um Mick's the kind of character when when you lose he'd pick you up when you won he was
01:05:50partying
01:05:50he was like our dad our uncle you know he was everything Mick he was he's such a lovely fella
01:05:56and um he followed me into the toilet to see if I was all right and he gave me a
01:05:59big hug said well done
01:06:01and then he just said to me yeah he said listen you know you two are in slain tonight and
01:06:05I kind
01:06:06of knew they were playing and he said um he said listen I've just had a phone call off Bono
01:06:10I'm thinking you've just had a phone call off Bono and he said he wants you to go on stage
01:06:15with him
01:06:15tonight in front of 100,000 people and I'm like okay so so Colleen if you get that phone call
01:06:20what
01:06:21are you doing I go and go on stage of course you're gonna do so what did you do believe
01:06:25him right
01:06:25so I thought so I said to him straight away I went well how's he gonna get me there and
01:06:29straight
01:06:30away he went he's got a helicopter waiting for you so this this is getting bigger and bigger this
01:06:33story and more unbelievable and then the line that got me where I thought this is not true
01:06:38is when he went to me stay in your kit and don't get a shower and I'm like I ain't
01:06:44going to slain like
01:06:45stinking and like in me kit and that and having to go out in front of a thousand people I
01:06:49thought
01:06:49this is a lie and I said to him listen tell Bono I'm out with John Aldridge tonight and after
01:06:53the show
01:06:54we can come for a pint in Dublin like we'll have a pint in that thinking it was a lie
01:06:57so you went
01:06:58out with John Aldridge and you left Bono hanging and all the team and poor Bono had to do this
01:07:04on
01:07:04his own at Slain Castle
01:07:07just once
01:07:09just once
01:07:17close your eyes
01:07:19and imagine
01:07:21it's Jason McAteer
01:07:37so obviously I was away still none the wiser that I was ever supposed to go on stage and I
01:07:43was away and this Irish kid comes up to me and he went to I was at Slain the night
01:07:47you scored the goal
01:07:48he said weren't you supposed to run out and I went out did you know that and he showed me
01:07:51that clip and
01:07:52you know when you've watched it for the first time and I've actually gone oh my god I was supposed
01:07:56to go
01:07:56walk out
01:07:57I've messed up here royally messed up and yeah it's if I could go back in time and do you
01:08:03know the other
01:08:03thing as well it's like I had a mad crush on Nelly Furtado right right mad crush on her and
01:08:08then I
01:08:08found out years later she was supporting you too
01:08:11I could have married Nelly Furtado
01:08:14I could have married Nelly Furtado
01:08:17Nelly Furtado could have been in his wallpaper
01:08:18yeah
01:08:20gutted
01:08:21you know so Bono from one Irish legend to another you recently made up with Roy Keane
01:08:27yeah tell us how you fell out with Roy and how you made up
01:08:31everyone fell out with Roy wasn't just me yeah
01:08:33no we fell out you know the infamous Saipan incident does anyone know about that
01:08:41yeah we fell out and me and him me and him had gone through our careers our Irish careers
01:08:46together because we're similar age but then there was the Man United Liverpool thing where
01:08:50we didn't get on and then it was like we got older and it was a little bit you know
01:08:55that
01:08:55we patched it up a little bit as we got older and then the Saipan incident happened and we proper
01:09:01fell out and then we had an instance on the football pitch where United came to Sunderland
01:09:05and we had a big fight in the middle of the pitch
01:09:07yeah I think we got a
01:09:08have you got a bit of got a clip on that
01:09:10there we go yeah we think we got a visual visual on that there it is yeah
01:09:13there's me telling them
01:09:14yeah there's you been held back by quite a lot of people
01:09:17I know no one's holding me back
01:09:19exactly yeah
01:09:20about 20 holding him back
01:09:22and er yeah
01:09:24so then how did you make up
01:09:26so for 20 years we actually didn't speak
01:09:29and like we would bump into each other he like I bumped into him at Wembley I held
01:09:33the door open he just walked through he did say thanks but he proper blanked me I'd see
01:09:37him on planes I'd see him you know various different places and he would walk past me like he'd
01:09:42never met me in the streets do you know you know I do know I don't know him well but
01:09:47Wayne does the
01:09:48podcast with him yeah yeah so and do you know what I was like I was a little bit gutted
01:09:53but I kind of
01:09:53thought well if you're gonna treat me like that I'm gonna treat you the same so I've you know when
01:09:58he said something in the
01:09:59press derogatory about me I'd go back at him and then it was been like
01:10:03that for 20 years and then erm do you know Barnshaw Smithy you know the cafe right
01:10:09yeah yeah yeah it's by mine
01:10:09anyone know her?
01:10:11no
01:10:11so this is a cafe by your house?
01:10:13it's by our house
01:10:14it's by our house yeah it's like a posh cafe innit
01:10:16yeah yeah
01:10:17so my er my wife wanted to go there for a cup of coffee rights after the school run
01:10:21so I said come on we'll go this is only last year last year it was
01:10:26so er we go in and he's in there with his family and of course I'm like and it's only
01:10:30tiny innit and I'm like
01:10:31oh god
01:10:31I actually filmed some of my Wagatha Disney thing in there yeah
01:10:35oh wow
01:10:35it is really nice
01:10:36if you ever didn't yes you go there
01:10:38yeah
01:10:38okay
01:10:39you'll see Roy
01:10:39and was Roy sitting there Skylar like Jason
01:10:42and Killeen
01:10:43and on a Wednesday you'll see me
01:10:44yeah
01:10:45and erm I've walked in and he's in there with the family and I'm like oh god
01:10:49anyway he doesn't let on to me right so I go round the corner just to you know get out
01:10:54the way
01:10:54anyway 10 minutes later he gets up and he walks out with the family
01:10:57and then erm 20 minutes later I ask for the bill
01:11:01and the waitress comes over and she says erm oh your bill's been paid
01:11:04and I went so who's paid your bill and she went Roy's paid your bill
01:11:08and I got like really upset and I'm getting a bit like emotional now thinking about it
01:11:12and I just thought like 20 years we've wasted 20 years of our life and he's gone and bought me
01:11:18breakfast 20 years
01:11:19like what a time to do it
01:11:20well mine's only had a bacon butty and a coffee
01:11:23and erm so like I was telling the waitress the story and she was like ah ah
01:11:29and erm anyway so when I left I rang Jamie Carragher up because obviously he does the podcast with him
01:11:33and I said and I know Carragher
01:11:34and I said yeah I said erm I said Roy's gone and paid me bill in the cafe after 20
01:11:39years
01:11:39he's like dialed out an olive branch
01:11:41I said would you just ring him and ask him if I can have his number and you know I
01:11:44want to say thank you
01:11:45and an hour later he rang me back and he said Roy appreciates the thank you
01:11:49but you're not having his phone number
01:11:52and he still got me
01:11:53that is so so good
01:11:56that is so good
01:11:57er so like
01:12:01big game on Thursday what are the chances do you think er
01:12:04yeah a little bit disappointed like with the momentum's kind of died down
01:12:08because it was such a great week wasn't it we had
01:12:11Portugal and Hungary erm but listen it's football and we go over there full of optimism
01:12:15erm any advice for Troy er you've obviously scored a goal to get us through
01:12:22yeah it's a big night it's it the team that handles the nerves the best
01:12:26listen the form book goes out the window you can handle the nerves the enormity of the situation
01:12:30that'll be the team that comes through we're capable of doing it erm and I hope we do
01:12:34because erm we come back here on the Tuesday don't we and I get another night out so er
01:12:38please I'm praying
01:12:40OK er well look we're all praying er so look erm we have the game on Thursday night
01:12:46er they head to Prague the boys in green for the World Cup playoff against Czechia
01:12:51the whole of Ireland is going to be hoping they can do what you did 25 years ago and er
01:12:56take us to the finals again and with every football fan wanting tickets to the game
01:13:00they're as hard to get as a Roy Keane phone number
01:13:03but thanks to our lovely friends at the FAI
01:13:09we have got two tickets er for someone in the audience tonight
01:13:15we put the message out in our socials er we had a huge response we have a couple of people
01:13:20here
01:13:21let's say hello thank you just you just tell me where to go yep just pointing up in here
01:13:25this is good er say hello to Gráinne and to Jason there we go
01:13:28Hi Gráinne nice to meet you
01:13:29How are you doing?
01:13:32er so Gráinne I believe you have a member of your family who er has a little er good luck
01:13:38ritual for games
01:13:39can you tell us what that is?
01:13:40It is it's my mum erm all of Italia 90 mum was in the bath at the start of the
01:13:44campaign and we won every match
01:13:48so she was relegated to the bath every night
01:13:50erm the night of the Italy game she decided to go out for a drink with the neighbours and go
01:13:55and watch the match
01:13:56and that's the night she met my stepdad
01:13:58so the joke in the family is it was the only Scalacci that scored that night
01:14:02er and so if you win the tickets tonight you're going to make sure she's definitely in the bath
01:14:07she's got to be in the bath okay that's good er Jason how big a fan are you?
01:14:11oh very big fan yeah er all my life so I remember watching it in my mother of Farrah's pullback
01:14:16when I was eight years of age 94 I worked up in 94 or so
01:14:18and who would you bring if you managed to get the tickets tonight?
01:14:22er I'd be bringing the wife yeah no choice otherwise okay correct
01:14:25that's good er so you're fans of the boys of green er are you fans of Jason?
01:14:29er er yeah
01:14:32Man United fan breaking
01:14:34oh United yeah
01:14:36it's okay okay we can pull this back because the good news is tonight
01:14:40to win those tickets we need you guys to recreate the moment when Jason scored the goal
01:14:45to bring us into er the playoffs for Japan as we play Mac of the Net come this way
01:14:58come in come in come in okay as you see walk over this way guys we have captured the famous
01:15:07moment
01:15:07when Jason shot us er into the World Cup back in 2001 against Holland we have removed the football
01:15:14er what we want you guys to do is to take your balls and take your footballs
01:15:21and er you are player one Jason there you go
01:15:24er you're player two
01:15:25thank you
01:15:26so er if you could just put those where you actually think the goal is
01:15:29what do we think guys would you help them out here
01:15:31where do you think the ball is you're going for what do we think?
01:15:34up a bit
01:15:35whoa lower higher lower left okay you're going there you're going there okay
01:15:40Gronje where are you going to go let's see where you're going to put this for the tickets for Prague
01:15:45okay yeah
01:15:47oh hang on over a bit up no what
01:15:50no you're going there okay so that's where they think the ball is in that photograph
01:15:59let's now reveal where the ball was in the picture
01:16:05it was actually on the way to the goal and it was just there
01:16:15so we're going to I'm afraid we're going to have a VAR here
01:16:18Stevie our ref is going to come out and try to measure this let's see what we think
01:16:23okay so we've got yeah so that's fine so we've got 112 centimeters and we've got a hundred and six
01:16:34centimeters I can tell you that Gronje you are the winner
01:16:42congratulations well done you are on your way to Prague you have two tickets to the game you've got a
01:16:51hotel you've got flight
01:16:53your mum and the bath are going to have to go on hand luggage thanks to our friends at the
01:16:58FAI let's give it up one more time for Jason
01:17:08okay you can watch the world cup 2026 playoff Czechia versus the Republic of Ireland next Thursday the 26th of
01:17:17March 7pm or T2 and RTE player one more time folks let's hear it for
01:17:23Jason McAteer and Colleen Rooney!
01:17:26Thank you so much!
01:17:27Thank you very, very much.
01:17:29Well played, fella.
01:17:30And that is it for tonight.
01:17:32Thank you to all my guests.
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