00:00Karla, I want to start with you because you are a newcomer this season, the final season of Outlander.
00:05You're joining the ranks of this amazing cast.
00:08Were you a fan before being cast?
00:10What was your relationship and what was it like joining at this juncture?
00:13I had watched the show.
00:15I hadn't watched all the seasons, but some of my friends had auditioned for it.
00:21I had gone in for the prequel, so I'd sort of watched the show and was familiar with the characters
00:27and the story and everything.
00:28By the time I got my take through for series eight.
00:32So I was then very excited to be cast, of course, who doesn't want a job and also on such
00:39like an incredible story.
00:41And, you know, it's it's all coming to an end.
00:44So it felt very special to be able to sort of come in and and see the show in its
00:51final chapter.
00:52Charles, I was really struck by this episode.
00:55I thought it was very beautiful watching William confess his bastard status to Amaranthus and the conversation that unfolded.
01:02I'm not the ninth Earl of Ellesmere.
01:05Not really.
01:08I never was.
01:10Late, I found myself wishing I could renounce the damn title altogether.
01:14What does that mean for those characters to be able to see each other free of those titles?
01:19Yeah, I mean, I think William's previous identity has been completely revolving around those titles.
01:26And that's why I think he had such a difficult time learning that he's not actually the legitimate son of
01:32the Earl of Ellesmere.
01:34And I think that this departure for him is maybe the beginning of him accepting who he truly is.
01:41And I think Amaranthus' advice to him is that, you know, it's not, you know, a title is not something
01:47that you are.
01:48It's something that you have.
01:49You can actually exist outside of that title.
01:52And I think that will be a very important step for him in recovering his identity and finding out who
01:58he truly is and fingers crossed healing from the past.
02:01Yeah, and I think with Amaranthus, you know, she says, my father is just a bookseller.
02:08So I think to her, she sees that titles are kind of a key to unlock, like, a kingdom and
02:15a life that she's wanted.
02:17But she's also has a really, I imagine she had a lovely relationship with her father and her grandfather and
02:25her family.
02:25And, you know, they didn't need titles.
02:28They, you know, had these wonderful bonds without any of that.
02:32So I think that's kind of what she's, yeah, as Charles was saying, saying to him is like, it doesn't
02:36really mean anything.
02:38It's just a thing that you have that kind of makes your life easier.
02:41So I wouldn't get rid of it if I were you.
02:43Amaranthus was very bold, just basically proposing marriage to him out of nowhere and just be like, oh, and our
02:48firstborn son will just be the Earl of Ellesmere.
02:50It'll be easy peasy.
02:51Well, you may not be able to renounce it, but you can hand it on.
02:54Abdicate in favour of your heir, I mean.
02:57I don't have an heir.
02:59Well, you could marry me and give it to our firstborn.
03:01How serious is she?
03:03Is she, is there any cheek to it?
03:05I'm really curious.
03:06And Charles, is William intrigued by such a blunt proposal?
03:10I think she's sort of like floating out there to see a response.
03:15So she's like, oh, you could.
03:17And then if, if William was like, no, she'd be like, yeah, yeah, no, I'm joking.
03:20I'm joking.
03:21So she's like, I'm joking.
03:22Unless.
03:23Yeah.
03:26I think she's, yeah, she's getting the feelers out there to see sort of what he's thinking.
03:32Because he's not a very open character in terms of his emotions outwardly, really.
03:37I love that.
03:38You're doing the JK, JK, dot, dot, dot, and less.
03:44William really enjoys spending time with Amaranthus.
03:47And, you know, obviously this is such a big thing that has sprung upon him.
03:52And yeah, I think it is half in jest, but there is a, maybe a level of seriousness.
03:57Because this is something that could genuinely happen.
03:59But I think at this point he still carries quite a bit of guilt about the fact that Amaranthus is
04:04his cousin's wife.
04:06And, you know, he's, I don't know, he might, he's not fully convinced maybe that this cousin of his is
04:12actually dead.
04:14So there's a lot to still uncover.
04:16And I think a lot of kind of emotional turmoil for William to get over before that can be a
04:21serious consideration.
04:22But I think it is, it's definitely, the seed has been planted.
04:25Charles, one of my favorite William scenes is the one that you and Sophie share this episode.
04:30Just in terms of the two siblings finally bonding and having a real heart to heart.
04:34I should probably say something polite, like only if you want us, but that's...
04:38Bit late for that.
04:40To lie about the truth, I mean.
04:41I do apologize for not telling you.
04:44It wasn't my place.
04:46I accept your apology.
04:47What did it mean for you and what does it mean for William to realize that he has people in
04:51the world?
04:52Yeah, I mean, I think it was a bonding moment for Sophie and I, because that was a really nice,
04:57meaty scene that we got to do together.
04:58And absolutely a bonding moment for William and Brianna.
05:03I think William and Brianna have this shared experience of not knowing who their father, or assuming that their father
05:11was someone that it wasn't, up until basically adulthood.
05:14And then having this information sprung on them and, you know, their entire life changed and their sense of identity
05:20had to change.
05:22And I think William felt quite alone before this scene.
05:25And oh my goodness, thank goodness that there's someone in his family, his sister, that has basically been through the
05:31exact same thing and has come out of it okay.
05:33Has come out of it still with the relationship with Jamie.
05:37And I think that that maybe changed something in his head.
05:40And hopefully that means that he can reconcile with Jamie and develop some kind of relationship.
05:45Because I think that is the way forward for William in terms of healing.
05:49And I think that is the way forward for William in terms of healing.
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