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00:01Previously on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
00:03Ken and I still working on things.
00:05We've been, it's been rocky.
00:06It's been very rocky.
00:08It got bad because I ended up going
00:09and getting a whole nother apartment.
00:11I know I've been on this journey looking for my brothers
00:13and sisters, right?
00:15I found them.
00:16Yeah.
00:17So guess what I'm doing?
00:18What?
00:19Going to Detroit.
00:20You know, my license got suspended.
00:23Real estate license.
00:25Now I'm not mad, Maurice, and you've
00:27grown into the attorney's soft hand era.
00:29I'm OK with it.
00:31I had a conversation with Nell about just coming in
00:34and having fun.
00:35But she feel like she owes me an apology to you.
00:37I said already that she's taking accountability,
00:39and she's trying to be in a good place and have a good time.
00:41You know what?
00:42I think we should pull over, and I'm going to go check on that.
00:44What you mean, pull over?
00:46I do want you to acknowledge how I feel about something.
00:49You're trying to dismiss my feelings.
00:51And like, well, give me an example.
00:52Y'all don't remember.
00:53Y'all gangin' up.
00:54Y'all doin' this.
00:55Y'all doin' that.
00:57Yeah, boom.
00:59We keepin' movin'.
01:01All day, all night, yeah.
01:05Ain't no stoppin', let's drop that.
01:07We're in a stoppin'
01:10You know, you know.
01:12We keepin' movin'.
01:17All day, all night, yeah.
01:22All day, all night, yeah.
01:26Yeah.
01:33I feel like I'm being ghastly right now.
01:35Gator for a ghastly?
01:37Yes.
01:37What else, girl?
01:38You want to be the victim next?
01:39You want to be the victim too?
01:41For Destiny to give me attitude about how I feel,
01:44and she's like asking for it, give me an example,
01:47give me an example.
01:48Yeah, I do not remember exactly what you said,
01:51but I do remember how what you said made me feel.
01:54It hurt my feelings.
01:56So let me ask you, do you think it was inappropriate for Nell
02:01to say some of the things that she said in regards to she
02:05needs to be worried about her husband and their situation?
02:11I never said Nell wasn't wrong for what she said.
02:14Did I say she wasn't wrong?
02:15Did you tell her that it wasn't right?
02:18Yeah.
02:21OK.
02:28Ownership and apology, something this group is, uh,
02:31comes few and far between.
02:33But I think there needs to be ownership in regards to friendship.
02:39So now it's over and we can move on?
02:40We can move on.
02:42Are you sure?
02:47I think I know what to put, what box to put everybody in.
02:52So yeah, I'm good.
02:55What's the label on my box?
02:57Don't trust that hoe.
03:01Wow.
03:03Every joke got some truth to it.
03:11Marsha told me he was like a friend to everybody's a friend to nobody.
03:14And he's cordial and cool with everybody.
03:16I feel like we have a good relationship.
03:19Um, but I also feel like you have a good relationship with people that don't like me.
03:22So I guess my thing is, is that I'm a loyal person.
03:27As am I.
03:28And I don't show nothing different.
03:30And I don't want to be hurt.
03:31And I don't want you to be hurt, and nor do I.
03:33And so my only way to not be hurt is to protect myself ahead of time.
03:37As you should.
03:39But have I shown you anything different?
03:48I'm about to get real emotional.
03:50Me too.
03:52And I want to mix up my makeup.
04:02Go by my actions, baby girl.
04:04OK, baby Cheryl.
04:08I ain't going to always get it right with my words,
04:09but go by my actions.
04:11Please.
04:14I don't get a hug.
04:18No!
04:21Hearing Destiny say, judge her for her action, not her words,
04:24I'm just moving forward.
04:25I'm just going to see how she moves.
04:27I'm going to see what her action gives.
04:29And then I make my judgment based off of that.
04:31Try not to be emotional before I share with y'all
04:33what I want to share, what I came here for.
04:35What are you coming for?
04:36The last couple of months have really changed my life completely.
04:41I found three of my siblings that were adopted and moved away.
04:46And then I was like, well, I want to meet y'all.
04:48Oh, you're all going to get together?
04:49Yeah, I'm going to Detroit.
04:51Well, if you need a support system, we're here for you.
04:54Well, come on and support.
04:55Well, I mean, Maurice and Mar, uh, Mar, Mar, Mar, Mar, so...
04:59They're from Pontiac.
05:00They're from Pontiac, because they all went down for a road trip to the D.
05:04Listen.
05:05A flight, not a road trip.
05:08After you shed a couple tears, you hug it out, take a couple shots,
05:12um, you get your mind right.
05:14We're going to chalk this one up to conversation over.
05:18Lock it up through with a key.
05:19We're going to hold Destiny's hand.
05:21We're going to get to this Detroit trip.
05:22All's well that ends well.
05:26Touché.
05:51Hey!
05:52Hey!
05:52Hey, girl!
05:53What are you doing?
05:55Eating.
05:56I brought you some lunch.
05:57Honey, you are coming.
05:58Oh, okay.
05:59I was supposed to wait a minute.
06:00Now you eat me and didn't give me nothing.
06:01So I'm at my business, Growing Smiles, meeting with my daughter, Kayla,
06:07who's acting now as the program director, temporarily.
06:12And I'm trying to get a temperature check with her to see if she's going to be able
06:17to handle this position and to, you know, you know, see what's going on with her knucklehead brothers.
06:22How did the day go today?
06:24It went smooth.
06:25So, you know, I scheduled this meeting because right now you're the acting program director.
06:32Going to have more on your plate.
06:33Right.
06:34As far as still trying to manage the front and payments and the parents and their accounts.
06:40Do you ever feel like you're overwhelmed?
06:42Just let me know.
06:45So Kayla is my rock.
06:47She's the only one out of my other children or my sons.
06:51She understands the business of Growing Smiles, the in and outs.
06:54If I had to leave my legacy to anyone within my business or for my business, it would definitely be
07:00Kayla.
07:01Out of all my kids, you are the one that, you know, understands the go-to.
07:06When something go wrong, everybody go to Kayla.
07:10Let Kayla give her her input.
07:12She's going to tell you who's right and who's wrong.
07:14I sure will.
07:14So, yeah.
07:16That brings on some other questions.
07:19Everything has overwhelmed me.
07:21It's like it all happened back to back.
07:23Your dad, I'm really angry with him.
07:26Yeah.
07:27Right now, too.
07:28He's so freaking laid back about everything.
07:32I'm mad at Lance.
07:33Everything I have done for him or supported him in.
07:38He doesn't make the time for me as his mother.
07:44He asked me today what I had going on.
07:46And that was to keep .
07:48Yeah.
07:49What today is?
07:50Ah.
07:51Trying to go to a happy hour.
07:52Mm-hmm.
07:52Definitely trying to go to a happy hour.
07:54For sure.
07:54Here's the problem I have with Lance.
07:56I do not mind keeping my granddaughter.
07:59But when Lance asks you to keep his kids...
08:02I already know what it is.
08:04He does not pick up when he tells you he's going to pick up.
08:08Mm-hmm.
08:08It just burns me up.
08:10I do not know what else to say to him like Lance.
08:13Mama need a break, too.
08:14That's how I feel.
08:15I still have a life.
08:16I don't have any kids.
08:18I know I'm un-teased, but...
08:20And this is the freaking problem I'm having.
08:21I don't have kids right now.
08:22By the time I have kids, I feel like you and Dad might be a little burnt out.
08:29It's stressing me out.
08:30It's making me snap.
08:32It's making me just...
08:34I'm easily triggered.
08:35Mm-hmm.
08:36Because I'm always doing something for somebody else.
08:38I'm always doing something for somebody in this family.
08:41It's a lot.
08:42Yeah.
08:43But I'm proud of you.
08:44I'm so proud of you.
08:46Well, thank you.
08:47You inspire me every day to keep going.
08:51Yeah.
08:51Well, that means a lot, Kayla.
08:54I have my days.
08:56Oh, yeah.
08:57And I'm sorry I can put a lot on you.
09:01Give me more if you need.
09:02Give me more.
09:03I know sometimes I'm not that nice to you neither.
09:07It's okay.
09:08We are a lot alike more than you realize.
09:11I understand you.
09:13You told me why you're able to take you.
09:16Exactly.
09:16I think you're doing an awesome job.
09:19I just want to tell you thank you.
09:21I love you.
09:22Oh, yes.
09:22I love you, too.
09:27Coming up on Love & Married Huntsville.
09:30I want to know what it is that I said.
09:31Yeah.
09:32What did I do?
09:32What did I say?
09:33And Tisha was like, I don't remember.
09:34I just know how you made me feel.
09:35And I'm like, you feel this big of a way, but you don't even know what I said?
09:39What?
09:40Y'all have what now?
09:43Destiny had an attitude and I got an attitude.
09:45You're 43.
09:48It is where it is.
10:16I'm checking in with my girl, Trish.
10:18I haven't seen her in a minute.
10:19She wasn't at Taco Tuesday, so I got to tell her about what that was about.
10:23And, yeah, let her know about my trip to Detroit.
10:26I guess I can take my shoes off.
10:27Oh, yeah, you can.
10:27This is Kid Zone.
10:28Trust me.
10:28Kid Zone.
10:29This is so cute.
10:30I haven't been up here.
10:31This is super cute.
10:33Oh, thank you.
10:34Yeah, welcome.
10:35Well, let's cheers.
10:37Cheers.
10:38How you been?
10:40Good, I guess.
10:41Good.
10:42Life is always lifing over here.
10:44Girl, life be lifing, but God be guiding, so.
10:46Yes, he does.
10:46Ooh, what you said.
10:48God be guiding.
10:49Look, pray until it happens.
10:50Pray until something changes.
10:52I'm telling you.
10:53Amen, amen.
10:53Because that's exactly what I do.
10:55So, I met with the ladies, Tisha and Kimmy, for Taco Tuesday, and I walk in and it was like
11:04immediately this energy and this smoke, like, about the winery and what I said and how
11:11Tisha felt about what I said and I kept saying, okay, so what did I say?
11:15And they both said they didn't remember.
11:17And Kimmy was like, well, you did say something and I'm going to remember what you said.
11:20I want to know what it is that I said.
11:21Yeah.
11:22What did I do?
11:22What did I say?
11:23And Tisha was like, I don't remember.
11:24I just know how you made me feel.
11:25And I'm like, you feel this big of a way, but you don't even know what I said?
11:29I think it came from whatever happened in the car.
11:32It was just tension that was brought to the table.
11:34But that's not nothing to be mad about.
11:35I agree.
11:36I mean, I agree.
11:37Come on now.
11:37And so I'm like, why are we talking about this again?
11:40Then Tisha even said that, you know, she knows what box to put me in.
11:44And I'm in a box of people that can't be trusted.
11:48And I mean, y'all had what now?
11:53Me too, girl.
11:54What led to that?
11:56Well, she was just like a friend to, what did she say?
11:58A friend to everyone is a friend to no one.
12:00And, yeah, I just felt like it was kind of silly, for real.
12:05And then I was like, yeah, y'all, I was like, okay, the Scott gang up.
12:07And they were like, oh, now you want to be like Nell?
12:09We're ganging up on you.
12:10And I'm like, you're trying to support Tisha and her...
12:15Issue, or whatever she had.
12:17Recollection of what she don't remember.
12:18And you don't even remember.
12:20So, it is a gang up.
12:22I thought that whole Hawaiian situation was over.
12:24But if Tisha felt some things need to be resolved, that she didn't get resolved,
12:29then I can understand that, too.
12:31But I don't see Tisha or Kimmy ganging up on someone.
12:35I mean, they just both have their opinions.
12:37And, you know, Tisha's gonna get loud, and Kimmy's gonna...
12:41However, so, maybe they can, I don't know.
12:45I just can't see it.
12:46So, yeah, what I really intended to tell them about and to tell you about now is,
12:50I don't know if I told you, I have six other living siblings,
12:55and I found the last three that were adopted and moved away.
12:58Mm-hmm.
12:59So, I'm about to go to Detroit to meet them all.
13:03Aw.
13:04Yeah.
13:05By yourself?
13:06Well, I'll say this.
13:07After all of that at the Mexican restaurant, Kimmy was like,
13:10we'll go and hold your hand.
13:11Like, they kind of invited themselves.
13:12What did you say to them?
13:14Kimmy and Tisha?
13:14Yeah, when they invited themselves.
13:16I was just like, ah.
13:17Well, come on and support.
13:18Well, I mean, Maurice and Mar, uh, Mar, Mar, Mar, so...
13:23They're from Pontiac.
13:23They're from Pontiac, because they're all the way down for a road trip to the Ds.
13:28Listen.
13:29I don't invite, I don't know if I said anything.
13:32Well, how did the whole dinner end?
13:33Maybe I said, okay, yeah.
13:35I don't know.
13:36So, how did the whole dinner end?
13:37How did y'all end on?
13:38Did y'all end on a good note?
13:39We did.
13:40We did.
13:40Okay.
13:40We ended on a good note.
13:42That's good.
13:43Well, I appreciate the extension of a hand from Kimmy and Tisha.
13:48And then, you know, Maurice and Mar, so they're from Pontiac, which is right outside of Detroit.
13:52So, anyway, girl.
13:54Where's Kim?
13:56Well, the last time I talked to you, you said you and Kim were in a little rough patch.
14:01Yeah.
14:02Y'all fix that?
14:04It's been a rough patch for the last six, seven months.
14:09On and off, actually.
14:10It's been rough patches.
14:12Trish, I adore her deeply.
14:14I talked to her one day.
14:16Her and Ken are broken up.
14:18They haven't spoken.
14:19He doesn't live there.
14:20I talked to her two, three days later.
14:22He lives there and they're happy and everything's going well.
14:26I can't keep up, so I've decided that whatever she tells me on that day is what I believe until
14:32she tells me something different.
14:34Even if it's 24 hours later, because I'm going to keep my sanity.
14:37We're trying to get through the rough patch, but, you know, I'm working on it.
14:41Thanks to you and Dr. Francis.
14:43Like, I'm working on it.
14:44And therapy?
14:44So that's going well?
14:47How's that going?
14:48It's going good.
14:49I know, right?
14:50What breakthroughs have you had?
14:53I am, I listen more, instead of responding.
14:58Mmm.
14:59But I'm still trying to express myself in a way that it doesn't come off as, I'm being an ass.
15:08I introduced the apology.
15:10Here, I know, right?
15:11Mmm, mmm, gosh!
15:13Listen, that took a lot.
15:15Did I tell you that took a lot?
15:16It took a, damn, it took a whole day.
15:18But I still did it, like, at the end of the day.
15:22Help us, Lord.
15:23Listen, so I'm excited because Ken and I have an upcoming appointment with Dr. Francis.
15:28I've already had my one-on-one with him.
15:30And plan to have more.
15:32And I'm just looking forward to Dr. Francis, you know, telling us where we need to fix,
15:38what he sees that's happening between us.
15:40We're still trying to, you know, get back to where we were.
15:43Because we done done so much.
15:44Y'all can't get back to where y'all were.
15:45That's a whole nother chapter that's closed, because now you got ex-husband and Mick.
15:49Sorry, husband.
15:51That paper carries weight until it's done.
15:54Yeah.
15:55That I agree.
15:57Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
16:00You want to go out of town with a person who you put in a don't trust that whole box.
16:12The anger that you lash out in our home comes from that, comes from the situation with him.
16:18He's brought up in arguments and all kinds of things.
16:20I don't talk about this guy.
16:21I think about this guy.
16:34Pull up in this room.
16:36Catch you in my view.
16:37I ain't into you.
16:39We'll ride this running through.
16:42We're here because we need to get some pictures.
16:44Because we want to get ready to market this house as coming soon.
16:48We're all realtors brokers.
16:50So this is like the first home that we're building like this, but we're going to build more.
16:55Well, Whitehall's almost finished.
16:58There's a couple more things to do.
17:00Little flooring, little paint.
17:02All we need now is a buyer.
17:03This is the teamwork that I always envisioned for me and Marcel.
17:07Marcel doing his thing, and I'm doing my thing.
17:09And together.
17:10Our thing is getting done.
17:11Yeah.
17:12The thing is being done.
17:14Okay, Tisha, what did we decide as far as the timeline?
17:18We'll look at the calendar and see which days we can do the open house.
17:21But we do want to have one big, like...
17:23I would say a broker's open.
17:24Yeah, I want to do that because I want to make sure that they can come in and say,
17:28this is what's called residential.
17:30This is what we can build.
17:31We want them to love it.
17:33Just thinking about how we are going to make this thing work.
17:36I mean, just your roles, my roles, what we do.
17:38You know, even when I try to step in, you take control and you, you know, do your thing.
17:43Makes me feel good.
17:44Yeah.
17:45I think this is like, you just have to trust me to do my part.
17:49Like, I'm trusting you to do your part.
17:51So.
17:51And then we also lean on each other when we need, you know, when we have questions.
17:56Right.
17:57Like what you're doing with the team?
18:00That matters.
18:00You know, it's so funny.
18:01I met up with Kimmy and Destiny, and we just talked about like the projects and everything.
18:05And then I was talking to Kimmy about this project.
18:09I was like, you know, got Whitehall.
18:10I see I'm building the team of ladies that's in residential real estate.
18:13And she was like, I feel some type of way.
18:17I said, why?
18:18And she was like, you know, I'm in residential and y'all didn't ask me.
18:22I was like, Kimmy, you do know that when I was getting my real estate license and you
18:27was a realtor, I was like, you should become a broker and we should form our own real estate
18:31team.
18:32And you was like, no, I don't want to get my broker's license.
18:34I'm not interested in getting my broker's license.
18:36And then I find out you got your broker's license and you started your own thing.
18:38I figured you just didn't want to work with me.
18:41And she was like, no.
18:42So I just let it go.
18:43I was like, well, that's the reason I formed this team.
18:45Because at the end of the day, I don't want to do this by myself.
18:49I think Kimmy is good in the residential real estate arena.
18:53And the only reason I did not include Kimmy was because I just thought she didn't want
18:57to work with me.
18:58Kimmy likes to move in silence.
18:59And sometimes we find out when everybody else finds out.
19:04Whatever Kimmy is working on, we find out when the world finds out.
19:08We find out when social media finds out.
19:10Right.
19:12I've been up there with Tisha and Destiny.
19:14Remember I told you that I felt like there was a little bit of, like, angst for some reason
19:19between the two of them?
19:20Yes.
19:21So, guess what I did?
19:24Mediated?
19:24Let them come to Taco Tuesday.
19:27Hmm.
19:28Should have never done it.
19:30Did it get bad?
19:31Well, it got a little snippy.
19:36Everything started off okay.
19:39But, when we got to the part about Tisha wanting to tell Destiny about how she felt
19:47in regards to their relationship.
19:50I feel like Destiny was defensive as soon as Tisha opened her mouth.
19:53It just goes left fast.
19:55So, me and Destiny sort of, you know, had words because I felt like she was not being
20:00a good friend to me.
20:01Me and Destiny got into it?
20:03Mm-hmm.
20:04Minor.
20:04And then I was like, I don't remember exactly what you said.
20:07I remember how you made me feel.
20:08As me considering you a friend, she just, you know, was like, oh, y'all, here you go.
20:13Y'all gaining up on me, the Scots.
20:15Which is the exact same thing Nell said about we was trying to gain up on her.
20:20You're actually yelling at us.
20:21What did y'all think y'all doing here?
20:23Gang up on me?
20:24Oh, Jesus.
20:25No.
20:25Victim, victim, victim.
20:27Victim.
20:27I was like, so, this is just like a pattern.
20:29Like, what's going on with this?
20:31Ain't nobody trying to gain up on nobody.
20:33I don't care and I just know who you are and I know who I can deal with and I
20:37know
20:37and I understand who you are.
20:38Well, what's that mean?
20:39Who am I?
20:40You got to that?
20:40Yes.
20:42Here's the thing.
20:42This particular situation is a lot riding on the stuff that Nell had said though.
20:50Tisha has these moments of loyalty.
20:54I don't think I've ever heard her say, don't be friends with that person or don't be friends
20:58with that person.
20:59I don't think that that's something she would want to say as an adult, but I do think that
21:04that's something she feels from time to time.
21:08In my adult world, I don't think that adults tell each other who they can talk to and who
21:15they can't.
21:15However, I don't think there's a right or wrong when it comes to how you feel and how your
21:20friends make you feel.
21:22So, when it comes to their particular friendship, I don't have any problem with Tisha not wanting
21:28her to talk to Nell.
21:29And then Destiny had an attitude and I got an attitude because you're not going to get
21:33attitude with me.
21:34And then I was just like, I just got to figure out what box to put everybody in.
21:39And she was like, well, what box I'm in?
21:41I said, don't trust that whole box.
21:44And I was like, I'm just playing.
21:45She was like, really?
21:46Really?
21:47I was like, I'm just playing.
21:49Where are you playing now?
21:50I don't know.
21:51I don't like feeling this way.
21:53I don't know what to do with this situation.
21:58I'm going to tell you something.
21:58I'm going to tell you something.
21:59You're 43.
22:01All right?
22:02At this time, at this stage in life, it is where it is.
22:06It is where it is.
22:08People are who they are.
22:09I told Reese the same thing about Martell.
22:11I'm saying, like, reality is, like, they got some people out there that are like that.
22:17Every relationship, you're going to go through something.
22:19There's no perfect relationship.
22:21Yeah.
22:21In our marriage, in our friendships, you're going to go through something.
22:25Yeah.
22:25I don't like to lump this whole friendship thing in with marriage, but I understand.
22:29It's a relationship.
22:30Yeah.
22:31It's not a marriage.
22:32You're my friend, right?
22:34Yeah.
22:34But when you and your friend disagree, you don't have to split assets.
22:38How do you guys get past it?
22:40Are you inviting them to the next?
22:41No, they hugged it out.
22:42Everything was fine.
22:43Quite frankly, Destiny even started telling us about a lot of her family that she had found
22:48in Detroit.
22:49And she was, like, real emotional and moved that she found most of her brothers and sisters.
22:54Really?
22:54In Detroit.
22:55Right, right, right.
22:56And she was wanting to try to get them together with her mom.
23:00I felt like she was telling me and Kimi this for a reason.
23:03And so I was like, do you want us to be there with you to hold your hand through it?
23:07Like, we could be your support system for this.
23:11Why are you looking at me like that?
23:13You want to go out of town with a person who you put in a don't trust that whole box.
23:25Could I get all that?
23:26I wasn't putting it like that.
23:27I didn't think about it like that.
23:30Like, friends go through things, right?
23:32Well, if I had a friend that I put in a box of don't trust them.
23:36But I was just playing.
23:37That just doesn't seem like the person I would expect an invite to go to Detroit with.
23:42So do you think I need to tell her, never mind, I'm not going to go there and hold your
23:46hand through this process?
23:46Did you already agree to it?
23:48Yeah.
23:50I mean, I don't know.
23:52I mean, this is your decision.
23:53You're grown.
23:53I'm going with you, too.
23:54You're going to come with me.
23:55Well, I don't know.
23:56Do you think that you would ever go try to find your real mother?
24:00I know who my real mama is.
24:02What are you talking about?
24:05We're going to be a supportive group.
24:06Right.
24:08And nobody's bringing up any old stuff.
24:11It's a thing of the past.
24:13Did you tell her that you're inviting us?
24:16I said Marceau and Maurice would love to go to Detroit.
24:18OK.
24:18Just me here.
24:21I did.
24:22She was fine with that.
24:23All right.
24:23I don't want no smoke.
24:25I don't.
24:26I don't.
24:26I try to avoid smoke, too.
24:30Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville,
24:32she wants to see Maurice sweaty, a little dirty,
24:36doing some work.
24:38Do you think Kimmy really wants you to quit being an attorney
24:40and be freaking concerned?
24:43I can tell you this.
24:43Yes.
24:44The anger that you hold from him is invalid.
24:47I don't talk.
24:48You don't have to talk about him to have the anger.
24:50I don't think about the guy.
24:51I don't think about the guy.
24:52That's false.
25:08So I got this problem where I start something,
25:11but once I start drilling down too much,
25:13I don't want to let go of that topic until I got it fully.
25:16You know what I'm saying?
25:16What was your favorite subject, though?
25:19Probably Con Law.
25:20We're interpreting the Constitution,
25:22and then everything's built on that.
25:24Yeah.
25:25Mike Skees.
25:26Hey.
25:26What up, Solo Dolo?
25:28I'm over at my younger brother Micah's house
25:30because he's about to take the bar,
25:32you know, following my footsteps.
25:33But I also invited Marceau over because, you know what,
25:36I have a couple questions,
25:37and I need his feedback.
25:38What you doing, dog?
25:39You studying?
25:39Studying.
25:40I haven't clued you in on this, but yeah,
25:42I got with Reese,
25:43and we decided that it's time to take the bar.
25:45Next year?
25:46I was going to wait till February next year,
25:47but the bar is next month.
25:49It sounds amazing.
25:51I love all this enthusiasm,
25:53but why'd you call me over here?
25:55I made a comment with Kimmy.
25:58We were having a conversation about construction,
26:02of all things.
26:03Mm-hmm.
26:03There's a difference between my desires
26:06and your desires for sex.
26:08Mm-hmm.
26:08Right?
26:09Mm-hmm.
26:09When those days happened,
26:10when it was more than once,
26:11and this, that, and the other.
26:12They were in most of your investment properties.
26:16When you were working, when we were spending time,
26:19and I was watching you do the that I like to see.
26:22You were building, laying floors, laying carpet,
26:25putting up cabinets, all that stuff that I would come
26:28and get turned on watching you do
26:31that you simply don't want to do.
26:35So here I am, trying to get turned on by myself.
26:37Ain't that something?
26:39Yeah.
26:40It's like, uh, that turned me on.
26:42Swinging the hammer, plumbing, and all that.
26:45I was like, okay, girl.
26:47I could dress up, right?
26:50But, um, I'm not about to be going back
26:52and doing all that stuff.
26:53A lot of that stuff was out of necessity.
26:55Mm-hmm.
26:55I would have been hiring crews to do that
26:58if I had the means at the point, at the, at the moment.
27:00Why do you hate doing it so much?
27:02No, it's not that I hate doing it.
27:04At the end of the day, does it matter if I'm the one
27:06that actually gets out there and...
27:08Yeah, yeah.
27:08No, it doesn't.
27:09It doesn't, though.
27:09It shouldn't.
27:10No, it does, though.
27:11Why, though?
27:12If I got the same thing done, women like to see men create.
27:16Hey, can I, can I give you maybe some insight on this?
27:20Women like a guy that has the answers
27:22and that can do things.
27:23Like, I can lead and I can do as well.
27:27There's nothing like being able to have a suit on
27:30Uh-huh.
27:30And then being able to roll your sleeves up
27:33and take care of some stuff.
27:34Little projects around the house.
27:35But at the same time, still not get your suit messed up.
27:39Marcel, listen.
27:40She's seen me do both.
27:41The thing is, at this point, I can get that done.
27:45Reece, that's not attractive.
27:47What do you think she's saying?
27:48Listen, what I want to do is...
27:49Do you think she really wants you to quit being an attorney
27:51and be freaking concerned?
27:53No.
27:53I can tell you this.
27:54Yes.
27:56I actually think that that would make her happier.
27:58Why?
27:59I don't know why.
28:00I can tell you why.
28:01Because you said you're thinking...
28:02What are you basing that logic on?
28:04I believe...
28:04Sexiness?
28:05You think that the thing she's in there...
28:07It's more of sexiness.
28:08I think it's more attractive to her.
28:09That's not what you should have been hearing.
28:12What she said is, we were spending more time together.
28:15Micah, no.
28:16No, she did say that.
28:16She did say that.
28:17That's what she said.
28:18She did say that.
28:19That's 100% what she said.
28:20Hey, bro.
28:20She said that.
28:21That...
28:22And I want to see you doing that.
28:24I put that in.
28:25I put that in.
28:25She wants to see Maurice bring in a 4x8 sheet to drywall and put it up.
28:28That's exactly the excuse.
28:30I'm telling you.
28:30She does not want that.
28:32I'm trying to tell you.
28:33Micah, I'm telling you.
28:33I bet she is...
28:34Bro, I'm telling you.
28:35She wants to see Maurice sweaty, a little dirty, doing some work.
28:41Hammer.
28:42Drill.
28:43Hold this.
28:44Let me put this in.
28:45Let me set this up.
28:46She wants to see Maurice find a stud.
28:48And...
28:48I'll tell you one thing.
28:49Would it be dope?
28:50What?
28:51I'd stage the whole thing.
28:53I'd have a suit on.
28:56I'd have my roller sleeves up a little bit.
29:01Grab them 2x4s.
29:02Bring them into the crib.
29:04You'd be up on a ladder.
29:06Like, baby, I can do both.
29:08You're just somebody that can do both, bro.
29:11This man went to the level of detail of that.
29:12You don't have to do that, Maurice.
29:14You talk to her every day, you know her best, bro.
29:16At the end of the day, you know her best.
29:18But guys, this is the question.
29:20It's what does she want more?
29:22Because I think she wants both.
29:23This is the thing.
29:25I'm going to try both.
29:26Mm-hmm.
29:27And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to record our conversation
29:30at the end of the day, and I'm going to play it back for you,
29:33and then we'll decide on who was right.
29:35A conversation won't do it.
29:37You know what would do it?
29:38What?
29:39Let's see if you get a BJ at the end.
29:44I'm not really sure if I know how women think,
29:47especially my wife.
29:49But you know what?
29:50Asking these guys, I don't think I'm going to get there.
29:53And speaking of women, I was actually talking to Tisha.
29:56She was talking to me about going to Detroit.
29:58For some reason, she wants to go back and support Destiny.
30:02First of all, hold on.
30:03What's up with them two?
30:04Who?
30:05Like, Tisha and Destiny.
30:06Tisha and Destiny?
30:07There's like...
30:07I don't know.
30:09I don't know.
30:10Destiny is a friend to everybody.
30:11It's choosing different, different sides.
30:13And Tisha's like, I can't trust that.
30:15Two seconds later, she's like, but Destiny's going to Detroit
30:18to find her family, and I want to go with her.
30:21Wait a second.
30:22Hold on.
30:22How did they get to a...
30:24Because Kimmy said that they got to a good place
30:26when everything was...
30:27They get to a good place at the end of everything,
30:30and then they're back at the middle of the situation.
30:33Marceau, I'm not understanding.
30:33When you say...
30:34When you say, I can't trust you, yeah, that's big.
30:39If there's one thing that my brothers can take away
30:42from this conversation, it's this.
30:44We will never understand women.
30:47Kimmy said that she was going to support.
30:50I'm going.
30:51Wait, you're going?
30:52Yes.
30:52You already made up your mind?
30:54You're not going?
30:55I was going to see where you was at.
30:57You haven't made up your mind?
30:58No.
30:58I had to go.
30:59But now if you guys want me to go to Michigan.
31:00No, you don't.
31:01Hey.
31:04How about we do this?
31:05But now that you guys are making it seem like I got to go,
31:09then I'm going to call and we're going to push me back just a little bit.
31:12He's sending her into the lion's den.
31:13And I'm going to go, Brian.
31:15Let me see.
31:15I hope they can reschedule.
31:17That's not stopping me.
31:19Trust me.
31:21Coming up on Love and Marry's Huntsville.
31:23I'll be at the gym, working out.
31:25Still on the phone.
31:26Weight's falling.
31:27That's not like a bed squeaking.
31:28Are you in someone's house?
31:29What the ?
31:30Excuse my language.
31:31Bro, that is the...
31:33That's what I'm trying to tell you.
31:34You're at the gym and I say the bed squeaking?
31:36That's what I told you.
31:36Bro, that doesn't even make sense.
31:37This is real scenario.
31:38Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
31:57You think you're ready for this?
31:59Yup.
32:03Hey, hey, hey.
32:04Hey, y'all.
32:06Hi.
32:07Well, well, well.
32:09No time, no see.
32:11Yes, how are you?
32:12I am definitely hoping Dr. Francis can, like, shed some light on what we need.
32:18And I want to hear what he's going to say because I think this is, like, the final moment.
32:25If therapy doesn't work, then we're not going to work.
32:27This is, this is it.
32:28All right, great.
32:29Have a seat.
32:29How you doing?
32:30How you doing, sir?
32:31Good to meet you.
32:32Why don't you introduce me to this man you got right here?
32:34This is Mr. Kenneth Lee.
32:36Kenneth Lee.
32:36All right.
32:37Mr. Kenneth Lee.
32:39How you doing, sir?
32:40I'm doing great.
32:41All right.
32:42I'm doing fine.
32:43I'm doing fine.
32:44I'm the type of person that when I've tried something multiple times and it hasn't worked,
32:47you know, I go to the drawing board and try to figure out another angle.
32:50It's kind of hard talking to Trisha when she's angry.
32:53And then sometimes even when she's not angry, trying to have that communication because
32:57she's so closed off and doesn't really like to talk.
33:00I think I just kind of, like, shut down myself and just letting whatever happened happen.
33:06You're looking well, though.
33:08I am because, I don't know, I guess I kind of held back on myself.
33:13And then the last couple of weeks and days had me like, you know, Trisha, what?
33:17Like, yeah.
33:18What do you mean when you say I held back on myself?
33:21I just, I don't know.
33:22I guess I just kept myself in a safe space.
33:24And I thought it was protected, like, me and everybody around me, but it's like,
33:28I think it was more harmful inside than it was safe.
33:31I think it kind of put me in a block.
33:36In a block?
33:37Yeah.
33:38Yeah.
33:38And not, you know, like express or be me.
33:43So, have you abandoned this safe space?
33:46Now I'm like the jack-in-the-box.
33:47I've winded myself up, nothing to pop out.
33:50Kenneth?
33:51Were you ever in the safe space with her?
33:57No.
33:58In the beginning, I tried to talk a lot to her.
34:00But I think due to her being inside that box, it made it kind of hard.
34:04In the beginning, of course, I thought it was, like, safe to, you know, step my foot
34:09out.
34:11But there were things that give me a flashback that would be like, yeah, no, I don't want
34:18to come out this box just yet.
34:20So, in the beginning of Ken and our relationship, he had a lot of questions.
34:25Um, he did accuse a lot or speculating that I was doing other things.
34:32And it kind of threw me off, threw me back, because this, you can't be serious.
34:38We're, like, together all the damn time.
34:39So, it seemed to me like staying in the box is not what you wanted, but staying in the box
34:44gives you a sense of comfort, it seemed to me, because you don't want to get out yet.
34:48Yeah, but now I'm ready to be uncomfortable.
34:51So, Kenny, come on right over here, sir.
34:53I'm a very patient guy.
34:54Like, I give a lot of grace, not just to Trisha, but to people in general.
34:58But at the same time, I don't know how much longer I can get the disrespect that I receive.
35:04It's just not something that I'm really interested in doing long term.
35:07I'm hoping that therapy literally gets us in a space to where we can actually create a common ground
35:12and start moving forward.
35:13Let's talk about you and Trisha.
35:17How would you describe the relationship between you and her right now?
35:21Honestly, I think I really do love her.
35:25I mean, I'm still in love with her.
35:27She tries to portray this image of this tough girl.
35:29Like, you can just get over overnight, and that's not realistic.
35:32How does she do that?
35:33Just, like, trying to make it seem like she had no attachment to her husband when he left.
35:37So, like, with us, like, I've been in this space now.
35:40Yeah.
35:40I think I've just gotten to the point to where I'm tired of dealing with that
35:44with, like, she's still reacting and responding as if to, like, she's still with that guy.
35:50Are you saying she projects some of that stuff on you?
35:52To me, for sure.
35:53Trisha don't understand that there's certain ways you got to talk to people.
35:57Our arguments are literally about the same thing all the time and that disrespect.
36:01Right.
36:01It's like she's been so accustomed to being able to disrespect him.
36:04I just ain't never been the type of person that, like, if you disrespect me, I'm saying something every time.
36:09Like, because if I don't, then it'll just become a habit.
36:12And I tell her all the time, I'm not your husband, so you're not going to mistreat me based off
36:16of some anger that you have built up.
36:19Like, Trisha is hot and cold, up and down every day.
36:22So right now, the relationship between you and her is not where you want it to be?
36:26No, not even close.
36:27Not even close.
36:28Do you agree with that?
36:29Yeah.
36:30When she gets angry with her husband, she projects it onto you.
36:34No.
36:34So what?
36:35Incorrect.
36:36He said that.
36:37No.
36:38No, no, no.
36:39He ought to know that.
36:39No, no, no.
36:40This is incorrect.
36:41I do not talk about him.
36:43I don't mention the guy.
36:44But are you actually listening to what he's saying?
36:46I don't, okay, yeah, wait, no.
36:47Nobody asked you, did you mention him?
36:49The anger that you, the anger that you lash out in our home comes from that.
36:54Comes from the situation with him.
36:56He's brought up in arguments and all kinds of things.
36:58I don't talk about this guy.
36:59I think about this guy.
37:00Trisha, I haven't talked to you for real in three months.
37:05The anger that you, the anger that you lash out in our home comes from that.
37:10I get tired of him being brought up.
37:10Comes from the situation with him.
37:12He's brought up in arguments and all kinds of things.
37:14I don't talk about this guy.
37:15I think about this guy.
37:16Trisha, I haven't talked to you for real in three months.
37:18Leading up to therapy, me and Trisha definitely have, you know,
37:22I think it's definitely went, you know, taking a couple steps backwards.
37:26I think she has a lot of hurt and anger that she needs to let go.
37:31I think some people, sometimes, they enjoy the attention they get from having the trauma.
37:37I tell her all the time, like, if you don't heal, you're just gonna take those,
37:41it's just gonna go relationship to relationship to relationship,
37:44and it's ultimately gonna be you that's the issue.
37:47You not talking about him doesn't mean that the anger that you hold from him isn't valid.
37:52I don't talk about him.
37:53You don't have to talk about him to have the anger.
37:55I don't think about the guy either.
37:56I don't think about the guy.
37:58Okay.
37:58I don't even think about the guy.
37:59But she don't understand.
38:00I don't think she truly understands.
38:01No, I don't think about the guy.
38:02I didn't think about the guy before he came along.
38:04That's false.
38:05I did not.
38:06I tend to put myself in different boxes.
38:08And right now, in Dr. Francis' session, I think I'm in a box of anger, hell, rage.
38:15Because I feel like because I stay quiet and don't voice much, I tend to come off as a bad
38:22person.
38:22When I think we both have issues.
38:26Are you fine right now?
38:28Yes.
38:28Everything is fine?
38:29Yes.
38:30With you?
38:31Yes.
38:32And you're fine with Kenny?
38:33Yeah.
38:34I mean, Kenny's a great person.
38:35Whoa, whoa, whoa.
38:35You just told me a little while ago that it wasn't that hot.
38:38I say our relationship right now is right, but Kenny is.
38:41The relationship is just not.
38:43He's fine.
38:43He's fine?
38:44Yeah.
38:45Kenny, do you know what it is about you that makes her say you were fine?
38:52But she don't like the way you act.
38:54So, she had to let me know that in her relationship, most times when he asked questions, they were actually
39:00accusations.
39:01So now, even when I ask questions, I'm asking a simple question, and in her mind, it's an accusation.
39:07Is that true?
39:08No.
39:09No.
39:09It's not true.
39:10It was a lot that was going on.
39:12It was a lot of accusations.
39:15No, Kenny and I.
39:16What were I accusing you of?
39:17Well, at the gym.
39:18I'll be at the gym, working out.
39:19Still on the phone.
39:21Weights falling.
39:22That sounds like a bed squeaking.
39:23Are you at someone's house?
39:24What the ?
39:25Excuse my language.
39:26That is the...
39:28That's what I'm trying to tell you.
39:29You're at the gym, and I say the bed squeaking?
39:31That's what I told you.
39:31I'll tell you, this is real scenario.
39:33This is real, real scenario.
39:34I've never been an insecure person to be like, oh, you're at the gym.
39:37Yes, he has.
39:38Yes, he has.
39:39That don't even make sense.
39:40I would have been at the gym.
39:42Kenny used to think that someone was at the house while he wasn't there.
39:46I thought that was very, very crazy.
39:48He was like, oh, well, you've only been in one relationship, and so you don't know how
39:51people are out here.
39:52I'm like, yeah, you're right, because that's crazy.
39:54That's why I work.
39:55He would pull the colors back into like, oh, who's been sleeping in the bed?
39:58Oh, somebody been in the bed.
39:59What?
39:59Kenny, I got messages.
40:01Who was in the bed?
40:01Oh, somebody was sitting in the bed.
40:02Oh, you must have another person in bed.
40:04Still to this day, Kenny still believes it.
40:05She's a compulsive liar.
40:09That is fucked up.
40:09He lies about a lot of stuff.
40:14Next, on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
40:16A bed doesn't exist in a gym.
40:18You asleep and woke up out of your sleep.
40:20Listen, let me talk, bro.
40:21He just pointed to me.
40:22It's like you're going to throw me under the bus all the time.
40:24No, he just pointed to me.
40:25And that's the thing.
40:26When it's time to throw me under the bus, you'll do it.
40:28When it's time to defend me, you don't.
40:30What about your mom?
40:31Are you going to see your mom, too?
40:33So what does that look for?
40:34No, you don't want to.
40:36Or no, it's not going to happen.
40:38I don't know.
40:38Like, sometimes I have an expectation of her showing up,
40:41and then she just does it.
40:46Yowzers.
40:49Trying to dance like anxiety.
40:51Like, it's hard to be in something.
41:02Mike is studying for the bar.
41:04I know, but did he say, like, well, that's dope.
41:06Glad y'all get to go.
41:07Did he invite himself?
41:09No.
41:10If that's the question.
41:13What's up, pops?
41:14Oh, Rick.
41:16My God.
41:17What's going on?
41:17My God.
41:19How you been feeling today?
41:20Pissed, but good.
41:22Why you pissed?
41:23Well, I can't discuss that.
41:24That's family business.
41:26I'm tough enough.
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