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00:05Previously on Married to Medicine.
00:09We're in Jamaica!
00:12Woo-hoo!
00:13What happens in Jamaica?
00:15Stays in Jamaica.
00:17I think we need this vacation.
00:18Like, it's like we've been going through so much.
00:21Ups and downs with IVF.
00:22Is it worth their sacrifice?
00:23I just don't think it's a healthy journey for both of us right now.
00:26You want to see me?
00:27You see me?
00:28You should be happy.
00:29We should have a smile on our face, right?
00:30I have been waiting for this man to show me something different.
00:33And I'm just not getting it.
00:35This is the third mid-gala.
00:37I can't make them people come out of their pocket
00:39when Toya done up the thing.
00:41Toya is a party planner, okay?
00:43Tea time, that's it.
00:44She's all as shit and she know it.
00:46Evelyn, shut the fuck up.
00:47Now listen, if they're not going to respect you
00:49and listen to you, how about we just leave?
00:52Toya was trying to speak.
00:53She kept getting interrupted in a very disrespectful way.
00:56And it's wrong.
00:57This whole finger pointing stuff is a waste of time.
01:00When people show you who they are, you have to believe.
01:08It was said yesterday that we wanted Toya to be in charge to see it fail.
01:13I think that's a problem.
01:15The bottom line is this.
01:17Either we're going to do the event and we're going to all pitch in and going to help out,
01:20or we're not.
01:21And move on.
01:22So that's it.
01:23It's only in a few days, right?
01:25Damon just seems to want to blow this off.
01:27Like, nothing happened.
01:28I don't know how this version of us can be friends because this doesn't work for me.
01:35My wife has tried to put in a lot of hard work this year trying to get a charitable thing
01:41started in a nice, formal way.
01:43Why are we sitting here dissecting what the women are bickering about?
01:47Shouldn't we just let them handle it and enjoy our day and have some fun?
01:51Let them handle it.
01:53You can't force anybody to have a conversation.
01:57And if he wants to blow it off, then that's on him.
01:59But at least I know how to move forward.
02:01My wife and I had a conversation, and I told her that I'd ask the guys if we would contribute
02:07to the cause.
02:08Eugene said he would.
02:09I am as well.
02:10My household is contributing.
02:12Your household is contributing?
02:13My household is contributing.
02:15King's in?
02:16I don't know if anybody else is going to say it.
02:17I'm going to say it.
02:18I'm out.
02:21I'm not doing it.
02:22I already have a scholarship that goes to Morehouse School of Medicine students.
02:28You don't have to explain, man.
02:29You're out.
02:29Yeah, we're good.
02:30I'm out.
02:30You're well within your right to be out.
02:32The intention may be good, but there was an exclusion from Mimi.
02:37We haven't been included in one discussion whatsoever about this event.
02:42The gag is I'm not new.
02:46Mimi will never say anything about it, but I took a little bit of offense to it.
02:50I'm not going to commit to something I haven't discussed with my wife, knowing how she feels
02:55about being excluded by Toya.
02:57Steve's out.
02:58King is in.
02:58Now, we will be at the Met Gala.
03:01Absolutely.
03:01But we won't be buying a $5,000 bowl this year.
03:04Damon, I've already been in.
03:06Yeah?
03:06Okay.
03:07Okay.
03:07We got it.
03:08We're done.
03:08Let's move on to something else.
03:09All right, cool.
03:10That was productive.
03:18He said he's going to give us a limestone foot massage.
03:21Are you ready?
03:22Ready for what?
03:22For my, for my, yes.
03:23Okay, she ready.
03:24I don't want to do it.
03:25She can do it.
03:26Oh, yeah.
03:28She's never been touched before.
03:29She's a 60-year-old virgin.
03:31She said she's never been touched before.
03:35Right.
03:35Yes, Heavenly was very disrespectful, okay?
03:38But I am where I belong, near the water.
03:41I'm not about to be sitting here holding a grudge from last night.
03:45This little piggy went to the market.
03:47He's touching that pole like that one.
03:48This little piggy stayed home.
03:49I hope this is an opportunity for us to try to understand one another.
03:54You know what I'm saying?
03:54I'm trying to live my life.
03:55I got enough going on.
03:56She's going to my life up.
03:58How far you want to go up, sir?
03:59He want to go straight to Kitty.
04:01Hey.
04:02Hi.
04:03Welcome to Jamaica.
04:04Well, thank you.
04:05Would any of you guys like a back massage or a body rub?
04:13I'm in.
04:14Absolutely.
04:15I'm a little tight.
04:16You know, the shoulders, the neck, you know, the thighs.
04:21Let me massage your neck.
04:22That's not the way you want to do it.
04:24Okay.
04:25Curtis, you better stick with the knee down.
04:27You better stick with the knee down.
04:29Oh, Scott taking the shirt off.
04:31Hey, man.
04:31This shoulder been killing me for about two weeks.
04:33Yeah, make that excuse now.
04:35Y'all boys playing with fire.
04:37A massage compared to what our wives have been exposed to on some of these trips.
04:40We still on the revenge of the sipping paint.
04:49It was awesome.
04:51Well, living art.
04:53Living art.
04:54You know what?
04:55I'll take it.
04:56I'll take it.
04:56You take a massage?
04:57Yeah.
04:58Are you ready?
04:59Yeah.
04:59I'll take a foot massage, too.
05:01You didn't get a massage.
05:02This is your baby.
05:02Okay.
05:03Damon does not get massages unless I find the masseuse for him.
05:07See?
05:09If any of y'all need a couch to sleep on, after these massages, I got y'all.
05:16So, Angel.
05:17Yes, ma'am?
05:17All s***.
05:18What you doing when you get back to the resort?
05:19Ask the host.
05:20What we gotta do?
05:21We're gonna have couples therapy tonight.
05:23And some of y'all, it's gonna be girls therapy, too.
05:26Couples therapy?
05:27Angel, you gonna participate in couples therapy?
05:30Yes.
05:30Wait, is Bernard here?
05:32He's with the men.
05:33Oh, my gosh.
05:34Isn't it exciting?
05:35That's exciting.
05:37Are y'all in the same room?
05:39We're not sharing the same room.
05:41That's some good s***.
05:42He's only my friends.
05:44I don't understand it, Angel, why you think that we think men just kind of fly into Jamaica
05:50to be a friend.
05:51I don't know.
05:52If I was single, and I invited one of my friends on a couple's trip, doesn't that give
05:58them the impression that they're more than just a friend?
06:02He's welcomed.
06:04Thank you, ladies.
06:05Of course.
06:07Hey, but guys, cheers to the fellas.
06:09Cheers.
06:09Cheers.
06:10Eugene comes through again.
06:11Yes, sir, ma'am.
06:12Hey, man, cheers.
06:13Appreciate this for y'all.
06:14It's an event, Eugene.
06:14All right, so tonight, we're gonna have a good time, but let's head back.
06:19We can't leave Jamaica with what happened last night.
06:23People being disrespectful, people feeling like they have to remove themselves from the
06:25group because they're getting very upset.
06:27I mean, everybody got their bag, everybody got everything, I gotta act like I'm with my
06:31kids.
06:31Tonight has to go better than last night.
06:34It has to.
06:35I got a massage, man.
06:37I ain't mad.
06:37I know, they're gonna be like, why your legs glistening?
06:4180 bucks, all the beautiful girls, I want to pose a question.
06:45Who here has a perfect relationship?
06:47Raise your hand.
06:52So, Kawhi, what is the biggest challenge in your relationship?
06:55Um, I would say what King wants more of is for me to cater to him.
07:00How so?
07:01Like, why I don't cook every night anymore?
07:03I used to cook a lot.
07:04Every single night?
07:05I got burned out.
07:06Why he get all the wife benefits and you ain't his wife?
07:09Oh.
07:11I'm not even pressed to be a wife right now.
07:13Okay.
07:14The man has asked me before to marry him.
07:17I thought it was B.S.
07:20I was out here playing.
07:21I was thinking about all the superficial sh** that didn't f***ing f***ing f***ing even
07:25matter.
07:26We're at his condo.
07:28And then it's like, so we could just run up here to the courthouse right now.
07:32I didn't think that it was real.
07:34I was the one like, ooh, we need a little bit more structure.
07:37I really wasn't rejecting him.
07:39I really just wanted more of a plan for our lives.
07:42But the energy after, he just kind of shut down on me.
07:45If I can't be honest with y'all, y'all got, y'all got my most vulnerable.
07:49Y'all got me.
07:50I'm so vulnerable towards y'all now.
07:54Yay, we're doing something right.
07:56This is growth for my friend because she's confiding in this group of ladies again.
08:00I feel for her because I think when you're hurt like this, you would like to have the
08:04opportunity to say your piece.
08:07What do you want out of this relationship?
08:10I want a family.
08:11I want him to be the head of our family.
08:13I want this man.
08:15And I want his children.
08:17That's what I want.
08:18Well, what about stop talking about a baby and start talking more about marriage?
08:21No, no, no.
08:22No, no, baby.
08:23No, I'm talking about what I want.
08:25I know she loves him.
08:27But Quad may be in a stage in her life where she just wants a baby, with or without her
08:33husband.
08:36Did you hear that thunder?
08:37You ready to go?
08:38Okay, let's go, y'all.
08:43Never forget us.
08:46Coming up.
08:47That shit.
08:49Oh.
08:49Hi, Bernard.
08:50Meet everybody.
08:51How are you handsome?
08:52You can't be calling, dude.
08:53How are you handsome?
08:54Mind your skin.
09:05I'm ready to go in here, take a shower.
09:07Friend, you're swerving.
09:12Did you all have a good day today, babe?
09:14It was amazing.
09:15We had food, we had drinks, and then some ladies came over.
09:20And what did the ladies do?
09:21Because you were smiling from ear to ear.
09:23We got some massage.
09:24That's why my legs are shiny.
09:26Okay.
09:27It was nice.
09:28We got massages, too.
09:30Did all the guys get a massage, or...?
09:33So normally, what happens in Jamaica stays in Jamaica.
09:38You're nasty.
09:39You're nasty.
09:39Okay.
09:40I'm about to take a shower.
09:42Did they ever massage your booty?
09:43I wish they would have massaged my ass, baby.
09:46Bye.
09:47Bye.
09:48Bye.
09:54Wow, this is nice.
09:58It's our last night here, and I felt like neon lights was a great thing.
10:01We all have gotten a cute little bronzy tan.
10:10I mean, every last color will look amazing on all the ladies.
10:13The men can wear white.
10:17Yeah, baby.
10:19That's neon, baby.
10:20I don't know if it is, but y'all close.
10:22Louis Vuitton make everything.
10:24I ain't even seen that one.
10:25Guys, please, you don't have to stand around the bar.
10:27The food, the buffet is open.
10:28Ooh, child, wish I could eat some corn on the cob.
10:31I'm fixing my man's plate.
10:33That's good.
10:34That's good.
10:34You keep that up.
10:35I'm your 36, bitch.
10:36I stopped doing that.
10:38Jerk chicken.
10:39Okay.
10:40You want some of the goat?
10:41I'm going to just pass on the goat, okay?
10:45Sit where you like.
10:46Hi.
10:47How are you guys?
10:48How y'all doing?
10:50Tessa, I knew you had something bright in there.
10:53Looking all pretty.
10:55I tried.
10:56What?
10:57That shit.
10:58Woo, woo, woo, woo.
11:00Bernard, meet everybody.
11:02How are you handsome?
11:03Nice to meet you.
11:05Why are you so excited?
11:07I'm not, I'm just for Angel.
11:09You can't be calling, dude.
11:10How are you handsome?
11:11Mind your skin, okay?
11:13We've been married 20 years.
11:14You ain't got to worry about it.
11:15No, I ain't worried.
11:16I ain't worried, but you know.
11:17Well, how was the rafting?
11:20It was nice.
11:21Did you get a massage today?
11:22They didn't go above our knees.
11:24Did y'all do that handprint?
11:25Well, he did it on our thighs.
11:27He told me he was going to stop on my thighs,
11:29but I told him he didn't have permission.
11:31I've only had one sexually motivated massage.
11:34It was kind of weird.
11:35What?
11:35But yeah, it was weird, you know,
11:37and it didn't want to...
11:39But you were not married to me.
11:41Yeah, I was married.
11:42Huh?
11:43And you said your guy's name was Hamhock?
11:45My guy's name was...
11:47Ribeye.
11:47Oh, ribeye.
11:48Some other piece of meat.
11:51But he ain't touch nothing, did he?
11:52My rabbits?
11:53Yeah.
11:54No.
11:54Oh.
11:55Oh, I didn't get a finger.
11:57Oh, no, no, no.
11:59I'm just joking.
12:00So tonight, we're going to play more of a game show.
12:04So we need guys on one side, girls on another side.
12:07What up, handsome?
12:09Give a round of applause for my beautiful co-host, Toya.
12:13Woo!
12:16Eugene and I are going to both ask each side a question.
12:21So say, for instance, if we say, who said timeout last night?
12:26She's full of s*** and she know it.
12:28Who needs a timeout?
12:30Toya, we going to the room.
12:31Then we all going to type in, and we're just going to put it up.
12:34Tonight's game is more like kind of superlatives,
12:37like how you do in high school.
12:38Hopefully it'll be fun and lighthearted.
12:41Yeah.
12:42Ladies, who's more likely to give unsolicited advice to the group?
12:47For the men.
12:49Oh, OK, I can put that one out there.
12:51Come on.
12:53Another Eugene.
12:54Look who's name I got.
12:57I don't remember giving none of y'all advice.
13:01You are always jumping in other people's conversations.
13:05Yes.
13:06I tell you all the time, whenever I'm on the phone,
13:08you in the background.
13:10Why don't y'all talk later so we can spend some quality time?
13:14When are we getting together?
13:16What time is it?
13:17Are the children awake?
13:18Eugene!
13:19Well, you have these loud-ass conversations.
13:21Next question for the gentleman.
13:23Who's more likely to turn a disagreement into a full-blown fight?
13:31I said all of them.
13:32What?
13:33Wow.
13:34I gave all of them.
13:35Boat.
13:36The boat did it.
13:37The boat.
13:40Scott, did you mean to put both,
13:42or did you mean to put boat?
13:43Because we put B-O-A-T.
13:45Which lady always gets into it on the boat?
13:48She got a reason not to be on the edge, though.
13:50You got to think about it.
13:50No, I understand, Scott, and don't talk to me!
13:54You talking about Simone?
13:55I ain't saying no name.
13:56But she real loud, though.
13:58Real loud, real loud.
13:59Who on the ladies' side is most likely to call out the wrong name during sex?
14:09Messy, messy.
14:11What kind of question is this, first of all?
14:13Oh, that is dirty.
14:16I'm not trying to think about anybody else in this group having sex,
14:18so that doesn't even cross my mind.
14:21Mm-mm.
14:21In three, two, one.
14:24Damn!
14:27What?
14:27Oh, hell no.
14:29I don't know why they would vote me to do this,
14:31because, honey, that would never happen.
14:32Toya!
14:33I know it's your name.
14:34Eugene.
14:35Jean.
14:36And if I don't know the name,
14:38Bae, boo.
14:40Oh, my God.
14:41That's why you were voted most likely,
14:43because you're the only one who probably have thought about this.
14:47Who's more likely to have a secret private life
14:52that no one knows about?
14:54Oh, s***.
14:56Haven't it, it's not you to vote.
14:59Ain't nobody ask you nothing.
15:01Well, I know that Jackie has a freaky side.
15:03How'd she tell you that you'd shoot a freak?
15:05I would never tell.
15:07Hey, good job.
15:08Good job, guys.
15:09Guess what?
15:10Guess what?
15:10Y'all can sit back with your significant others.
15:13Get about my wife's seat.
15:16Come on over here, baby.
15:18We got one more thing to do.
15:20I can see that this was a success.
15:22And if anybody says anything else,
15:24they're just a hater.
15:27Everybody, we're going to do a little breakout session
15:29where the guys are going to stay here.
15:31We have counselor David.
15:33He's going to talk to the men.
15:35Yay!
15:37Yay!
15:38Yay!
15:39Yay!
15:41I'm not going to cry for you, too.
15:42I'm not going to cry.
15:43Childhood trauma is over.
15:45I ain't got to deal with it no more.
15:46I don't need to recall it no more.
15:48You ain't going to Sigmund Freud me to death.
15:51You know what I'm saying?
15:52I mean, we got to be men.
15:54Come on, now.
15:55Okay, men.
15:56Men need to share.
15:56That's just not the way it's been prescribed for us.
15:58Okay, that's old school.
16:01During the couple's trips,
16:02sometimes the guys get a little bit to the side.
16:05We feel neglected.
16:07We want to talk about how we feel.
16:10Oh, boy.
16:10You know I don't have a problem with no therapist.
16:13I'm totally fine with therapy.
16:15That is not true.
16:16And psychiatry.
16:17That's not true.
16:17Psychologist.
16:18That's not true.
16:18The ladies are going to get up right now
16:21and go over to the side over there
16:23and we have a breakout session for them.
16:26With Dr. David as well?
16:27But the guys are going to stay here.
16:28We have Dr. Mimi over there for y'all.
16:30Oh, shit.
16:32Dr. Mimi, go do your thing.
16:34Go, Littles.
16:36I don't want to talk about my emotions.
16:39I don't think I need therapy.
16:41That's fine.
16:44But...
16:46My trauma isn't that severe.
16:48I disagree with that.
16:52Tap into your side that's less chauvinistic
16:55and more expressive.
16:56Hold on, hold on, hold on.
16:58There's nothing chauvinistic about me.
17:00Everything about you is chauvinistic.
17:01Tap into your less chauvinistic side.
17:05Let's tap into open expression and emotion.
17:08You're cutting into our counseling.
17:10I understood.
17:11Thank you, Dr. Eugick.
17:12Understood.
17:13Coming up.
17:15You guys are living together.
17:17You are playing husband and wife
17:19and you're not married.
17:20We're not going to weaponize
17:21the Bible against me right now.
17:24We're not going to do that.
17:30This is Dr. David.
17:32He is a counselor here in Jamaica.
17:34We have a little different scenario.
17:36Different scenario.
17:37Normally, our couples trip
17:38is a lot of married couples.
17:40Yeah.
17:41But this year,
17:41we have a couple
17:42who is deeply in love.
17:45Okay, that's good.
17:46And they're trying to have a baby.
17:48And then we have my man, B.
17:49All right.
17:50Who is a newer relationship.
17:53Ah.
17:53A revisiting relationship.
17:55Really, revisiting a relationship.
17:56Revisiting.
17:57These two guys are very interested.
17:59And everybody take different level.
18:00Different level, different stage.
18:02You got to know what works for you.
18:03My friend over here,
18:04how many years?
18:05I'm at 11.
18:06We at 11.
18:06We celebrated 11 this month.
18:08I got a measly 17.
18:09That's good.
18:10I'm 29.
18:12Almost 20.
18:13All right.
18:13Cool, cool.
18:1428 on the 16th.
18:16So, ladies,
18:17be honest about your husband.
18:19When y'all look at him
18:20at night.
18:22I know what you're about to say.
18:23I'm thinking about
18:24slapping the shit
18:25at him in my sleep.
18:28Day and the night,
18:29I look at that motherfucker
18:30and be like,
18:31knock him clean the fuck out.
18:33I said,
18:33I will wait
18:34You know,
18:35you turn over
18:35like you didn't do it.
18:37Every woman
18:38who is married
18:39or dating,
18:40you have wanted
18:41to just,
18:42mmm.
18:44Anybody.
18:45Anybody.
18:46I can relate to her.
18:48And if I wore 6'3",
18:49I would smack the
18:51shit.
18:53My next question is,
18:55do y'all have dreams?
18:57About what?
18:59About what?
18:59Can you elaborate?
19:00About knowing
19:01another man biblically.
19:02I do, I do.
19:08Heavenly,
19:09you on OnlyFans
19:10in your dreams.
19:11Heavenly,
19:12you seem like
19:12the type that would be
19:13on OnlyFans.
19:14I've never seen OnlyFans.
19:16She only gonna show
19:17her toes anyway.
19:18And I would rather
19:19see jacket toes
19:20on OnlyFans.
19:21I think she'll make
19:22more money than me.
19:22She got pretty toes?
19:23How you making me
19:24OnlyFans?
19:26Honey, there is a fetish
19:27for everybody.
19:28That baby toe
19:29was problematic.
19:31I have a plus-size foot
19:33and somebody told me once
19:35that I should probably
19:35create an OnlyFans.
19:36I mean, I'm always
19:37looking for some way
19:37to make a little extra money.
19:38I think $39.95
19:39is not asking
19:40too much per month.
19:43Ew.
19:43What do you guys think
19:45is the one thing
19:48that's like for real deal
19:49in your relationships
19:51that you're like,
19:51look, if I can fix this,
19:54we good.
19:56I know that verbally
19:59I've beat my husband down
20:01more than he's deserved,
20:04all because he had
20:05a different way of thinking
20:07than me
20:07or a different thought process.
20:09Who here at the table
20:11gives a f***
20:13about how hard I'm working
20:15instead of being able
20:17to move towards retirement.
20:19I no longer give a f***
20:22about people
20:23who don't give a f***
20:24about me.
20:25The f*** up!
20:26Because you know I do.
20:27And so I've had
20:28to work on that, right?
20:31We remember that,
20:32you know,
20:32there was a reason
20:33why you didn't want
20:34to do this trip.
20:35So how can we stand up
20:37for you?
20:38How can we be there
20:38for you on CISO?
20:40I think we are
20:43through communication
20:44and talking.
20:46We're just in a much
20:47better place.
20:49CISO's stubborn.
20:50And I know everybody
20:52thinks I yell,
20:53but I don't only yell.
20:55And I have days
20:55where I can,
20:57like right now,
20:58I have a softer tone.
20:59And so I'm smart enough
21:01to know
21:01that you have to try
21:04different tones
21:05on different days.
21:07So my friend
21:08with the 28th...
21:0929.
21:1029, right?
21:10Don't shortchange me,
21:11Don't shortchange me.
21:11No, no, sorry.
21:12There you go, bro.
21:12Don't shortchange me.
21:13That last year
21:14is a mother f***er.
21:15Oh, look.
21:15Don't shortchange me.
21:16Give me all my years,
21:18Damon.
21:19Give me all my years,
21:20right?
21:20We were married
21:22in May
21:24in 1996.
21:2529 years of marriage.
21:27Simone and I
21:28are definitely
21:28still a work in progress.
21:30The claim,
21:31the love.
21:33Is there still love?
21:34Yeah, after so many years,
21:35I'm blessed.
21:36I think at 30,
21:38we're going to be
21:38a work in progress.
21:39I think at 35,
21:40we're going to be
21:41a work in progress
21:42because ultimately,
21:44you never figure
21:45this s*** out.
21:46Because there's somebody
21:46on this earth
21:47for everybody.
21:49I really,
21:50literally think
21:51I was built
21:52to be able to deal
21:54with Toya Bush Harris.
21:55I tell her sometimes
21:57in arguments,
21:57there's nobody else
21:59that's going to deal
21:59with you.
22:01Do you realize
22:02how lucky we are,
22:03though?
22:04If you found your person
22:05and billions
22:06and billions of people
22:07and you've come together,
22:10how lucky you
22:11goddamn are.
22:13Yeah.
22:14I would say
22:15three, four years
22:16in Steve and I's marriage.
22:18I could say,
22:19yes, he had his issues
22:20for sure,
22:21but I had mine.
22:24Sometimes I can get
22:25caught in my own world,
22:26do my own thing,
22:27but also,
22:28one of the biggest
22:30challenges
22:31challenges in our life.
22:32Raising Stevie.
22:33Mm-hmm.
22:34Stevie has moderate autism.
22:37He was diagnosed
22:38at 18 months.
22:40And just even being
22:42a psychiatrist,
22:43I didn't know
22:44a lot about it.
22:46And so when we finally
22:47got him tested
22:47and we got the diagnosis,
22:50you know,
22:50that was a part of grief.
22:52Yeah.
22:52Grieving the expectations
22:54that you have
22:54for your child.
22:56And so the biggest thing
22:57that I do struggle with
22:58is like,
22:59how,
23:00like his safety
23:02as he grows up
23:03as a black boy
23:05with special needs,
23:07what does that look like?
23:08Yeah.
23:09And how can I,
23:10as a mother,
23:11protect him
23:12for people
23:13who just may not
23:14understand it?
23:19Coming up.
23:20Don't say that
23:21about my son, bro.
23:23Hey, look,
23:23that's what I'm saying.
23:24I've already said it
23:25a bunch of times.
23:27Don't go there.
23:34Stevie has moderate autism.
23:37And so the biggest thing
23:38that I do struggle with
23:39is like,
23:39like his safety
23:41as he grows up
23:43as a black boy
23:45with special needs.
23:46What does that look like?
23:48And how can I,
23:49as a mother,
23:50protect him
23:51for people
23:52who just may not
23:53understand it?
23:55Mm-hmm.
23:56Special needs parenting
23:58and the burnout
23:59that can come with it
24:00is a real thing.
24:02We don't know
24:04what the end is.
24:05We don't know
24:06if Stevie will have
24:07to be with us
24:08for the rest
24:08of our lives.
24:11And so,
24:12when I say
24:13I need my husband,
24:14I need my husband
24:15to say I'm doing
24:16a job as a mom.
24:18No, I don't need
24:19my business partner.
24:20I don't need
24:21these children's father.
24:22I need my husband.
24:23My husband
24:24needs to check on me.
24:25Sis, sometimes
24:26over here struggling.
24:27I need him
24:28to tell me
24:29that we all
24:31in this together.
24:35When it comes down
24:36to it,
24:37we have this
24:37sense of false masculinity
24:39that we were taught
24:40from a little boy.
24:41Don't show weakness.
24:43Don't show vulnerability.
24:44Don't cry.
24:45How much money you make,
24:46how much women
24:47you can sleep with,
24:48how good you are
24:49to sport,
24:49those are what define you.
24:52And we can get
24:53caught up in that
24:53because we've been
24:54raised that way
24:55and it don't work
24:56like that.
24:57I like that.
24:58And everybody
24:58take different level,
24:59different level,
24:59different stage.
25:00You gotta know
25:01what works for you.
25:02So the 29
25:03and the 28,
25:04what caused you guys
25:05to keep it so long?
25:07We've been through things
25:08like everybody.
25:10We've argued,
25:12we've had tough times.
25:13I'll be honest, man,
25:14I'm probably at a tougher
25:15point in my life
25:16than I've been ever.
25:19It's rough.
25:21I can do all the things
25:22that I'm required to do
25:24just like I've always done,
25:26but there is a deep hurt
25:27in my heart
25:28because I don't see my son.
25:31I just miss my son,
25:33you know?
25:34And it's hard to have fun
25:36when a piece of you
25:37isn't there.
25:38Like, this would be
25:39the time where
25:40if someone was my enemy
25:41and they wanted to see
25:42whether I would do
25:43something horrible,
25:44try me now.
25:47That's just where I'm at.
25:48I'm maintaining
25:49because you can't let
25:51your situation
25:52or how you feel
25:53make you lash out
25:54and do something stupid
25:55so you lose everything
25:56you have.
25:56But I'm at that point.
26:00Damon is ready
26:02for whatever.
26:03I truly am concerned
26:06that level of stress
26:08can lead to a crash out.
26:11I'm not going to sit here
26:12and lie about it
26:13and say,
26:14oh, everything's cool.
26:15It's not cool.
26:17As a mother,
26:19I worry about my children.
26:21Absolutely.
26:22Because I know
26:24what this world
26:24is capable of.
26:25I got to give it to God
26:27because I would run
26:28myself damn crazy.
26:29I spent a lot of nights,
26:31baby, awake,
26:32wondering if
26:33Michael Whitmore
26:34was alive,
26:35if he had rolled over
26:36in a ditch.
26:37And I finally was like,
26:40okay, I can't.
26:41I'm a bitch that be
26:42on the find my iPhone
26:44looking, tracking a bitch.
26:45Me too.
26:45Me too.
26:46But I think it's a point
26:47where we, you know,
26:48as they say in the Bible,
26:49we got to raise them up
26:50and then we got to allow
26:51them to trust the God
26:52It's easier said than done, Angel.
26:53I love what you're saying, baby.
26:54I'm getting it.
26:55But when you get here,
26:56it's easier said than done.
26:58Angel, is Bernard
26:59having a good time?
27:00I didn't ask.
27:01You didn't ask.
27:03So he pulled up on you
27:04in a foreign country
27:05and said, let me go see her.
27:07I think bringing this together
27:08was amazing, you know?
27:10And to invite him as a friend,
27:11I think that was amazing too.
27:13Yeah.
27:13So I mean, we're open.
27:15But be open then.
27:17I'm not that open.
27:18You're not open.
27:19I think after this weekend,
27:20I think it's just best
27:21for me and Bernard
27:22to remain friends.
27:24I don't think Bernard
27:25is willing to really
27:27say what he wants.
27:28Unless he come with a ring
27:29and be like, yo,
27:29this is what we do.
27:30Look, that's clarity for me.
27:32But if not,
27:34then we're friends.
27:35So Angel,
27:36can we invite him
27:37to the mad gala
27:37because we do need
27:38some donations.
27:39Oh, no.
27:40Oh, no.
27:40Y'all ain't going to use
27:41my people to get the money.
27:43Girl.
27:44I want to put that one
27:45on the hot seat.
27:46Hold on, hold on, hold on,
27:47hold on.
27:48I want to get to him
27:49over there.
27:50Yeah.
27:50But speak on it, brother.
27:52Yeah.
27:52What's your intention?
27:54Well, put it this way.
27:56We're on our own journey
27:58and we're doing it
27:59at our pace.
28:01But you don't think
28:02that she really
28:04wants to be married?
28:05In regards to that,
28:06you guys are pressuring me
28:07more than she is.
28:10But think about one thing.
28:12You guys are trying
28:12to go through the process
28:14of having a kid.
28:16But you want to think
28:18about doing things
28:20decent and in order.
28:26It can't necessarily
28:28be in order
28:28because of her age.
28:30I think that's common sense
28:31to all of us.
28:31I'm talking about it
28:33from a biblical standpoint.
28:35You guys are living together.
28:36You are playing husband and wife
28:38and you're not married.
28:42We're not going to weaponize
28:43the Bible against me right now.
28:45We're not going to do that.
28:54The complications
28:55that could be
28:56in the way
28:57of having a kid.
28:58You guys are living together.
29:00You are playing husband and wife
29:02and you're not married.
29:04In the Bible,
29:05that's a no-no.
29:07We're not going to weaponize
29:08the Bible against me right now.
29:10We're not going to do that.
29:12You're talking about
29:13sex before marriage.
29:14You are out of order.
29:16I think those are
29:17medical complications,
29:18not necessarily due to order.
29:20I love Curtis,
29:22but this is law.
29:23You're too young
29:24to have dementia
29:24to say something crazy like that.
29:26Hey, let me just say one thing.
29:27Like, everybody says
29:28all these things, right?
29:29But who's going to cast
29:30that first stone, right?
29:32Who's going to cast it?
29:34So really, man,
29:35you do what you do.
29:37You know?
29:37I have no judgment
29:38because you know why?
29:40It's none of my business.
29:41I mean, it's 2025.
29:42We're doing it on our timeline.
29:44What works for us?
29:45I can't agree with that.
29:47Faith has a lot to do with it.
29:49I don't think Curtis
29:50is the right person
29:51to be telling us
29:52God's order right now.
29:54He needs to do
29:55a little bit of self-reflection
29:58and hold himself accountable.
30:00Doing things
30:00the way God has prescribed
30:02for us to do it
30:03has a lot to do with it.
30:04Curtis, that's not it.
30:07That's...
30:08There's no perfect time.
30:10There's no perfect time.
30:11It wasn't the right setting.
30:12It wasn't the right moment.
30:14And I want you to take it back.
30:18I want you to take it back.
30:19So you pray
30:20and you believe in God
30:22and you believe in this
30:23and all that.
30:24God gives us rules to live by.
30:26Absolutely.
30:26So let me ask you this.
30:27Curtis, have you abided
30:28by all his rules?
30:30Absolutely not.
30:31Absolutely not.
30:31Okay.
30:32We all sin daily.
30:34Absolutely.
30:35Okay.
30:36And we ask for forgiveness
30:37and move forward.
30:38Absolutely.
30:38And I ask for forgiveness
30:39this morning.
30:40Ah, there you go.
30:41All right.
30:42And I'm going to ask
30:42for forgiveness right now
30:44for what I'm about
30:44to do tomorrow morning.
30:45Okay.
30:46I'm trying to get
30:46a step ahead of the game here.
30:49All right.
30:50Laquad, we all know
30:52that you have been traumatized.
30:54It's tough to not give kids.
30:56When you are of means,
30:58it is very difficult
31:00to not give someone you love
31:03the things that not only
31:05they need,
31:07but what they want.
31:09Mm-hmm.
31:10Mm-hmm.
31:11And so I'm in the space
31:13right now
31:14where I am breaking
31:15myself down.
31:18Do you feel like
31:19you can't trust
31:20your own feelings?
31:21Like you don't trust yourself?
31:22I trust myself
31:23most certainly.
31:25I'm talking about
31:25what your decisions
31:26in a relationship.
31:27I make proper decisions.
31:29Like, I have aha moments.
31:31I have light bulb moments
31:33in my relationship.
31:34Like, wow,
31:35I wasn't expecting
31:36for it to go that way.
31:37He really did that.
31:39Wow, he really said that.
31:41He needs you.
31:42You don't need his ass.
31:44Mm-mm.
31:45That's my thought.
31:46I'm sorry.
31:48It may be hard for her to hear,
31:49but I think that you're
31:50giving him too much.
31:51Giving him too much of your time,
31:53too much of sex,
31:54too much of money,
31:55too much of everything.
31:56He will disappoint you
31:57at some point.
31:58She's gonna have a baby
31:59with this man.
32:00She's trying to maybe
32:01change her life
32:02so either they want
32:03to be married
32:04or they don't.
32:04You know what I'm saying?
32:05And if they don't,
32:06move on.
32:07Everybody in the world,
32:08any relationship you're in,
32:09they're going to disappoint
32:11you in some way.
32:12So my whole thing is,
32:14do you love him enough
32:15for the times he does this?
32:17Because every mother
32:17are gonna do it.
32:18I've been disappointed
32:19by him,
32:19and I still love him,
32:20and I'm solid on it.
32:21Okay.
32:21That's what I want
32:22you to understand.
32:23Okay.
32:23Back up.
32:24Okay?
32:25I get where the girls
32:26are coming from.
32:27They are not wrong.
32:28I tell them all the time,
32:29don't sugarcoat,
32:30don't pussyfoot,
32:31don't stumble on your words
32:33when you're talking to me.
32:34The love in the relationship
32:36is strong enough
32:37that we're gonna get
32:37through that disappointment.
32:39But it will hurt me
32:40beyond belief
32:42if the relationship
32:43did not work.
32:47All right, guys,
32:48we really appreciate your time.
32:49I guess what,
32:50we're glad you guys
32:50are able to level up,
32:52you know,
32:53and share your,
32:54my brother.
32:55Thank you, Dave.
32:55No problem.
32:56Yes, Dave King,
32:57can you do that?
32:58And we wish you all the best.
32:59Oh, thank you.
32:59Thank you, man.
33:01And I meant what I said, too.
33:02Like, we have to learn
33:03how to reach out.
33:04I just don't know
33:04how to do that.
33:05I don't know
33:06how to do it either.
33:07You're a hold-in kind of guy.
33:08Yeah.
33:09But last night,
33:10I'm a little more
33:10talkative than you.
33:11Yeah.
33:12So, I just want you
33:14to understand,
33:14I left yesterday
33:16to give myself a timeout.
33:17Sure.
33:18Because I was getting
33:18real pissed.
33:19You want to shit for you?
33:21No, we need a timeout.
33:22I need a timeout.
33:24I get it.
33:26So, we're similar.
33:28We're very similar
33:29in the fact that
33:29we want to protect our family.
33:31For sure.
33:32I don't want to say
33:32nothing bad.
33:33Don't say that
33:34about my son, bro.
33:35Hey, look, fellas,
33:36I think it's right.
33:38I've said it
33:38a bunch of times.
33:40Don't go there.
33:41If you ask me
33:41the wrong question,
33:42I'm going to get angry.
33:44I'm just being straight.
33:46Sometimes in our group,
33:47man, people will say
33:48some stupid stuff.
33:49Okay?
33:50Especially the ladies.
33:51Leave my kids
33:53out of my mouth,
33:54out of your mouth.
33:54How can we leave
33:55your kids out of our mouth
33:57when you dog
33:58our whole family?
34:00My son
34:00is not one of those subjects
34:03that I can play around with.
34:04This is a line
34:05that I don't want you to cross.
34:07I ain't saying nothing
34:08about your son.
34:08I would never say
34:09nothing about your son.
34:10Okay.
34:10You ain't going to hear
34:10nothing come out of my mouth
34:12about your son.
34:12I got you.
34:12I was mad last night.
34:14I felt like Heavenly
34:16was being a little
34:17disrespectful to Toya.
34:18That's what I got mad about.
34:19Okay.
34:19That's why I left.
34:20Okay.
34:21That was it.
34:22Cool.
34:22Period.
34:23Cool.
34:23I didn't want to say
34:24nothing to Heavenly.
34:24I didn't say her name.
34:26Did I?
34:27No.
34:28You didn't hear me
34:28say her name.
34:28And I respect you for it.
34:29Right.
34:30I do.
34:30But I want you to know
34:31that I have the same code
34:33that you have
34:34that I don't like people
34:35talking about my wife.
34:37In any kind of way.
34:38I never do it.
34:39And it make me mad.
34:40But I never do it.
34:40And it would make you mad.
34:41I never do it.
34:42I know.
34:42And I don't either.
34:43So.
34:49All right.
34:52I love you, bro.
34:54Yeah.
34:56This is good.
34:57I ain't never going to
34:58get your family.
34:58Yeah.
34:59This is good, my brother.
35:00Ever.
35:01Okay.
35:02I love you, bro.
35:03Hey, listen.
35:04I want to propose a toast
35:06to all you guys individually.
35:08Continue to be great.
35:09Continue to excel.
35:10And when y'all getting married?
35:15Do y'all miss us?
35:16Yeah.
35:17Yes, yes.
35:17Okay.
35:18Sometimes you got to
35:19tell them what they want to hear.
35:20Do we miss y'all?
35:22Wonderful.
35:22Honey, we're going
35:24to thank the people.
35:25This has been
35:26a very interesting
35:28but a very good
35:29couple's trip.
35:30Thank you for everybody
35:31being very open,
35:32very honest.
35:33Thank you to all
35:34the couple sharing.
35:36I don't know how
35:36the ladies' session went,
35:38but the guys' session
35:39was really, really good.
35:40The one thing I can say
35:41for the ladies
35:42is that we were over there
35:44and the guys
35:45never had to feel embarrassed.
35:48They never looked
35:49at us crazy.
35:50I wonder why.
35:51They were so proud.
35:53We were.
35:54Of us.
35:55Yes, we were.
35:56Cheers.
35:57Cheers to us, ladies.
35:58Round of applause.
36:00Man, did we pull this off.
36:02I had an amazing time.
36:03Like, Jamaica was great.
36:05Put all the pettiness aside.
36:07Like, we still show up
36:08to do things right.
36:09We can come together
36:11and we can confide
36:12in each other,
36:13lift each other up.
36:14This trip is far better
36:17than what I expected.
36:19All in all,
36:20we're able to open up,
36:21maybe get some breakthroughs.
36:23We're leveling up.
36:24It's a better trip
36:25than last year.
36:26Secret St. James
36:28by Tegel Bay
36:29has been such a blessing.
36:30We did that, y'all.
36:34I think Eugene and Toya
36:35did a good job.
36:36I mean,
36:37they don't have the experience
36:39that Simone and I had.
36:40So let's say goodnight, guys.
36:42Goodnight, goodnight.
36:43We might have to take it back
36:45if we can get on track.
36:48We've ended on a really good note.
36:50Yes.
36:51Give me her groove,
36:52her groove.
36:53Her groove, her groove, her.
36:58Coming up.
37:00Whenever you ask me
37:01to do something,
37:02I try to change
37:03and take the necessary steps.
37:05No, you don't.
37:06Damn, y'all are grateful.
37:07Watch yourself.
37:17Oh, no.
37:18You're supposed to leave
37:18the dishes for the kids.
37:20I can't clean up faster.
37:22I figured you wanted to see me
37:23with my new glasses, so.
37:24Oh, they look great.
37:26You look handsome.
37:27You're so metrosexual.
37:28I love that.
37:31You're not gonna wait for me?
37:33Yeah.
37:34Two, three.
37:36Woo!
37:38Again!
37:39Woo!
37:40Dang.
37:41I'm gonna need
37:42some Tylenol
37:43after this.
37:44Do you wanna dance?
37:45Legs like,
37:46oh, my hips
37:46like, so high wheels
37:48go walk.
37:48Congratulations.
37:51500 for Silver Eagle.
37:533.5 and above.
37:56$1,000.
37:574.0.
37:58What are we gonna do
37:59with the money?
38:00I'm gonna buy
38:01two Lego sets.
38:02You're gonna waste
38:03your money
38:03on a bunch of Legos?
38:04I'm gonna splurge
38:05because I earned this.
38:11Quiet.
38:12Yes?
38:13Where you going?
38:14Where you headed?
38:15Wherever you going?
38:17Hey, it's us.
38:19What you drinking?
38:21Something that you're not.
38:23Oh.
38:24You must got a little alcohol in there.
38:26No, actually, it's healthy.
38:28What is it?
38:30Fruit chips.
38:31Who's this texting?
38:32Speaking of texting, when I tell you Jackie been texting me down.
38:37Jackie's been hitting you up?
38:38Oh, my God, man.
38:39She been texting me down.
38:41And the reason being is because what Curtis said in Jamaica.
38:44The difficulty you guys are having with the process
38:47could be because you are out of order.
38:51I think those are medical complications,
38:52not necessarily due to order.
38:54I can't agree with that.
38:56For him to say the reason why our IVF didn't take
39:00or didn't work was because we're not married,
39:02I didn't think that that was cool.
39:04Do you really want to say that about us?
39:06I can believe it.
39:07When did Curtis become the saint of all saints?
39:10I would expect that from one of the ladies, but not from Curtis.
39:13She knows he up.
39:15He does.
39:16And I got a lot of respect for Jackie
39:17because she's been supporting this whole journey.
39:19She's my doctor.
39:21So it's like he's speaking against us
39:22and his wife at the same time.
39:24It just didn't add up.
39:25I don't even think he was realizing what he was doing.
39:27Well, I can tell you right now,
39:29Dr. Jacqueline Walters didn't know a damn thing about it.
39:32If she could read his mind, she would have just looked at him
39:34and said, mm-mm, that ain't it.
39:35First of all, everyone's talking about marriage,
39:37but is it really necessary?
39:38It's like sometimes two companies may not need a marriage.
39:43Well, if it's-
39:44They can thrive on their own and they could benefit each other.
39:47Watch yourself.
39:48I've thought about it a lot.
39:52I've thought about it a lot.
39:54You yourself said, hey, I haven't been giving you what you deserve,
39:58what you need.
39:59Did I do anything today in terms of acts of service?
40:02Steam those clothes?
40:02I think, no, I didn't steam those clothes.
40:05What I need is consideration and appreciation.
40:10Do, honey, oh my God, do you need a hearing aid?
40:14All I do is give you praises.
40:17There has never been one time when you have shown up for me,
40:19I scream it to the top of my lungs, ready to tell any and everybody.
40:23Now that is a true statement.
40:25Screaming it versus showing it, two different things.
40:28Okay, how would you like for me to show it?
40:31The floor is yours.
40:33How would you like for me to show up?
40:34For instance, the last time we went to Ghana, right?
40:37The whole time there, I'm there in support of you.
40:40And because of what you're going through, you're beating up on me,
40:43acting like I was the enemy.
40:47Wrong or right?
40:47About what?
40:48Everything.
40:50There was a lot of tension.
40:51I look at that, it's like, damn, you're ungrateful.
40:53You see how that could come off?
40:55Okay, I hear you.
40:56Yeah.
40:57But I'm still working through some things, right?
41:00After the two of you tried to modify things that you took away from the couple's trip.
41:05I will say, hands down, I tried.
41:09I did a whole lot of self-reflecting.
41:12I did all that I could do.
41:14It's been a different time of year.
41:16Yeah.
41:16It's definitely been different.
41:18But if I'm out here doing it by myself, then...
41:20No, you definitely didn't do it by yourself.
41:22I tried to the point of exhaustion.
41:24I put, yeah, I definitely tried.
41:26Well, we're gonna disagree here.
41:28Yeah, we could agree to disagree.
41:30Yeah.
41:32I'm still not trying to put you to the test, baby.
41:36I don't have...
41:38Oh, well, let me think...
41:38Oh, it definitely feels like a test.
41:40But that's what's wrong with men now.
41:42Men are sassy now.
41:45No rebuttals.
41:46Just keep going.
41:47Are you trying to be difficult?
41:49I'm the one that's picking up the pieces, so...
41:51Baby, don't count me short.
41:53And don't count me small.
41:55I go through a lot, but I'm very strong and I'm very tough.
41:58And again, I always bounce back and I get better.
42:01Every single time.
42:07Next time on the season finale of Married to Medicine...
42:11Planning a med gala.
42:12I've been cursed at.
42:13Did you see a hundred and something text messages?
42:18It is tips gate.
42:19Toya won't tell us anything.
42:22Hey, hey.
42:24Are y'all gonna buy a ticket?
42:25Do you know what wasn't cool?
42:26Y'all not supporting the cause.
42:28I have my way of doing it.
42:30You guys obviously have your way of doing it.
42:32Can I say a few words?
42:33Ah, here we go.
42:35Listen, guys.
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