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00:00I messed around and caught, not only caught,
00:02but spent some time watching the highlights that are floating around
00:08on social media of C.J. Stroud's Pro Day from Ohio State.
00:12Y'all seen that?
00:13I've seen it.
00:14I saw it on Twitter just the other day.
00:15It looks so young.
00:16You want to talk about turn your own good.
00:20You want to talk about football horny good.
00:23Ryan, you want to talk about he looks so young.
00:25Yeah, he looks young because his ass is moving around.
00:28He's having fun.
00:29He's spinning a rock.
00:32Yes.
00:33I mean, again, it is a shame what they've done.
00:35I'm watching that.
00:37I'm watching that.
00:41You haven't seen that version of him.
00:43I'm seeing a young, fit, happy, quick-footed, confident.
00:51I mean, that short, quick stroke that he's got where it's not your typical motion,
00:57but damn, it's good because he can generate some power,
01:00and he just makes some throws with ease.
01:03I mean, I'm watching a guy that you're like, yeah, man, this is it right here.
01:08And, Ron, I ain't seen that dude since his rookie year.
01:12I've not seen that dude since his rookie year.
01:15I don't know that I've seen C.J. Stroud smile on a football field since midway through year two.
01:22I said it this year in training camp.
01:24Something's wrong with that cat.
01:25Something's wrong with C.J. Stroud.
01:27Something ain't right.
01:28So, I don't know if it's injury.
01:29I don't know if he's mad at the coach.
01:31I don't know if he don't like the system.
01:32I don't.
01:32I said something ain't right.
01:34And everybody, oh, what the hell are you talking about?
01:36You don't know what you're talking about.
01:36Okay, something ain't right, and I'm telling you.
01:40Did you feel that way two seasons ago?
01:42Did you feel.
01:43After his rookie year?
01:44No, no, no.
01:45Sorry, not two seasons.
01:46He was gallivanting around in Vegas.
01:48After year two.
01:49Like, during year two, did you feel that way?
01:50I could see a little bit of a slip, but, I mean, the more experience you get with something,
01:55the more convinced you become.
01:57The sample size is bigger.
01:58I felt like you see a little bit of a different guy that then has the, oh,
02:02well, let me change my offseason plans.
02:04Let me figure, you know, let me figure, let me get with my strength coach and speed this
02:08and speed that, and then, you know, training camp hits, and he's coming off a shoulder
02:12injury, and it just, there's something wrong, something different.
02:16I don't think he liked the Nick Kaley hire, to be completely honest with you.
02:19But it's been a change from Bobby Slowick to Kaley.
02:22I think it's, well, I think it was, I think Bobby Slowick, probably the relationship there,
02:27as we've heard since, I think Bobby Slowick probably muzzled him.
02:31Didn't let him have any control, any say-so.
02:36Didn't let him take over the room from a leadership perspective.
02:39Wanted to try to handcuff him.
02:41That probably had something to do with it.
02:42The new system, probably not a great fit.
02:44You know, I think it's all of these things have compounded on C.J. Stroud,
02:48and I just literally, I'm watching that pro day, and I'm going,
02:52this is the guy that was full of life.
02:55This is the guy that was full of confidence.
02:56This is the guy that was the ball placement specialist.
02:59This was the guy that was carefree when he was out there playing
03:02and spinning the ball around, and he comes in, has a great rookie year.
03:06He just looks exhausted to me now.
03:11He looks, he's not as quick.
03:14He's not as confident.
03:16He's not as free.
03:19Well, you're not, I mean, but you're not going to be when you're in something
03:22that you're not comfortable with.
03:23Right, right.
03:23But that's why I keep saying it's a shame what they've done to him here,
03:29what's gone on to him here in Houston.
03:31I just, I've not seen that guy.
03:33And, Ron, we go over there and watch.
03:34We do go watch him throw after practice every day.
03:38We do go to training camp and OTAs and watch, you know, watch him every day.
03:44It just is a far cry.
03:47Right now, C.J. Stroud is a far cry from the guy that I watched for 10 minutes
03:51of pro day the other day, just watching him just do his thing, man.
03:56I mean, it's just so beautiful.
03:58And then, Ron, you got something to add to that?
04:00I was just going to say, that's why I've maintained to say, like,
04:03when we look at this situation of, all right, yeah, he sucked and stunk
04:07the last two games he played, but it's the overall look of how did we arrive
04:13to a place where not only did he play that poorly,
04:18but it completely slid down a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
04:22And it got from that space.
04:24Because our guy here on YouTube just says, you know,
04:27I understand what Clint is saying, but seven is missing something,
04:29and it's between the ears.
04:31He has to show me dude had the best receivers in college
04:33and couldn't get it done.
04:34But then he came here and had, you didn't know what Nico Collins was,
04:39and helped make Tankdale to what he was.
04:41And they came here, he didn't have a great thing around him.
04:43And they won 10 games and went to the playoffs.
04:45Yeah, look, I'm not letting, and this isn't letting C.J. Stroud off the hook here.
04:50Yeah, he absolutely plays a role into this.
04:53Yeah, I mean, look, but there's got to be, and I'll be honest with you,
04:57I don't typically lean this way, right?
05:00But when we've seen a guy that is as talented as C.J. Stroud, right?
05:04Hey, it's my job as a head coach and a general manager.
05:07Like, I can't stand Nick Casario saying, oh, we're not going to build around one guy.
05:12What?
05:13If I'm C.J. Stroud, I'm like, what the hell do you mean you ain't going to build around one
05:17guy?
05:17Like, you know what?
05:18If I'm C.J. Stroud, I'm like, well, hell, you ain't never lied.
05:22You damn sure ain't going to do this.
05:23Who is the offense being built around?
05:24Yeah, like that is.
05:26David Montgomery?
05:27Right.
05:28Like that is, I'm not letting C.J. Stroud off the hook by any means.
05:31I do think there are some things.
05:33Hell, I said it earlier.
05:34If you're going to have a conversation about what's wrong with Houston on the offensive side of the ball,
05:37you've got to start with C.J.'s got to play better.
05:39But this is just one of those things where I couldn't help but watch this kid on the football field,
05:44and hell, he's in sweats running around, throwing a ball around the park, doing his thing,
05:48showing out for everybody, to now I'm looking at a guy that his movements look lethargic.
05:55His expressions on his face look like it's almost just like blank.
06:00I think there's no – it seems like the joy is gone in C.J. Stroud.
06:06And I do – I think it's the Bobby Slowick dynamic.
06:09I think it's the fit in the offense dynamic.
06:11I think it's the bad performance in the playoff dynamic.
06:14I think it's playing for a team that is led by the defense and offense.
06:18His expectations on offense is, hey, man, just don't lose it.
06:21That's the conversation.
06:22I think all of it –
06:23All of it.
06:23Nico being hurt all the time.
06:25Yes.
06:25Hank being hurt all the time.
06:26Stephon Diggs being hurt all the time.
06:27And in the meantime –
06:29C.J. Stroud's a guy that tries to be this –
06:34Now, he does it through the, you know, I'm going to trust in my Lord kind of thing.
06:38But he tries to be this guy that I can handle it.
06:42It's not that – you know, it's just part of life.
06:44It's football.
06:45It's this.
06:46No, man.
06:47I can see on your face it is a real struggle.
06:51And to me it just came to fruition when I saw young C.J. Stroud doing his thing.
06:57I was like – if I'm D'Amico Rines, I'm going to go watch what I'm talking about.
07:01Go watch his highlights and go, I don't care what the scheme is.
07:05I don't care what the supporting – what do I have to do as a head coach?
07:09I got my – Matt Burke is handling my defense.
07:12What do I have to do as a head coach to find that dude?
07:16What do I –
07:17But what they did everything to do – what they did everything was to not have that dude come out.
07:23Right.
07:24Everything –
07:24Yes.
07:24I mean, but even at this point, just acknowledge where you are and who you're committed to
07:30and what do I have to do to bring the best out in that cat right there.
07:34And you got to get back to it.
07:35I just simply think when you say – because you said it, but I think it's a loaded statement
07:41that has a lot that can go into it.
07:44C.J. needs to play better.
07:46He does.
07:48But that didn't just mean C.J. needs to go out there and throw the football better
07:52and not turn it over.
07:53When we say C.J. needs to play better, there's a lot that goes into that.
07:58Yes.
07:58There's a lot that goes into that that is not just C.J.
08:02But here's the deal, I catch him highlights and I'm watching a guy drop back
08:07and throw dimes all over the field to his guys.
08:09I'm watching bootlegs and I'm watching him coming off the action and kicking his eyes around
08:14and bursting out of that play action and getting outside the pocket
08:19and spinning the ball down the field.
08:20I'm watching drops with really good feet, quick feet.
08:23I mean, he's turning dirt with his feet, right?
08:25I'm watching when the camera does catch his face, man, he's smiling, he's happy.
08:29Boom, he's light on his feet.
08:30It's just life is good, man.
08:33And we've gotten to a point this year, and this just didn't start with four or five
08:37interceptions with C.J. Stroud in the playoffs, right?
08:40This didn't just start with one of the worst quarterback performances in playoff history.
08:44This started in training camp.
08:46I told everybody about it in training camp.
08:47When I watched C.J. Stroud in training camp and OTAs all the way until the end of the season,
08:53when I watched C.J. Stroud, I immediately understood what Deshaun Watson had been talking about
09:00when he was a Texan back in the day.
09:02I'm not going to let it take my joy.
09:03Every bit of his joy.
09:05Hey, Deshaun, you found a way.
09:07I think it ended up taking your joy anyway.
09:08But here's the deal.
09:09C.J., he's let it take his joy, man.
09:11I'm not going to let it take my joy.
09:13It is a hard, hard watch.
09:15And day one, when we go out there, if it's that same overthinking, blank look in the face,
09:22dragging your feet around, uncomfortable, lacking confidence, C.J. Stroud,
09:27it's going to be another long-ass season, man.
09:30It's going to be another long-ass season.
09:31That ain't the only thing I saw this weekend, boys, by the way.
09:35I'll tell you what else hurt me on the C.J. Stroud front.
09:38Y'all know that flag football we talked about yesterday?
09:42Oh, yeah.
09:43Where Burroughs shouldn't have been playing?
09:45Hey, Chief, you know where them boys were?
09:48Where?
09:48L.A.
09:50West Coast.
09:51Oh.
09:52Hey, you see them pictures from that after party, that fanatics party?
09:55Oh, I'm sure it was.
09:56I mean, hey.
09:57Tom Brady's fanatics.
09:58Tom Brady, old chiseled-chinned ass.
10:00He's holding a down by his hip, taking a picture.
10:03He got old big cubes, some kind of drink in his hand.
10:06You look over there, guess who else is there?
10:08I see Jaden Daniels.
10:10I see Caleb Williams taking pictures.
10:12Why not, man?
10:12Hey, man.
10:13Joe Burrow out there balling.
10:15Hey, man, where's C.J., man?
10:17Where's C.J. at, man?
10:19Hopefully working on this game.
10:20No, no, no.
10:20I get you.
10:22You know me, man.
10:23I'm definitely one like, hey, man, let's get off the stage and get in the weight room.
10:27Let's get off the charity event.
10:30He ain't even in the mood.
10:31Hey, man, come on, man.
10:31That's L.A., man.
10:32He ain't in the mood.
10:33Come on, man.
10:33That's C.J.
10:34Stomping ground.
10:34That's fanatics.
10:35That's Tom Brady.
10:36That's who you're watching film of, bro.
10:38Man, you know these people would kill him.
10:39No, man, hey, I'm just telling you, I don't give a damn who says what, Ron.
10:45I'm telling you, when I looked at, if that had been in New York, I could have took that
10:48approach.
10:49You know what?
10:49Set this one out.
10:50See, if that had been in Florida, set this one out.
10:51He was around there.
10:52It was his whole time.
10:52My man could have went and saw his people and attended the fanatics deal.
10:57Come on, man.
10:58I immediately thought, C.J., and again, this ain't typically my take.
11:02I immediately thought, I looked through every one of them damn pictures to try to find
11:05C.J.
11:05Stratton.
11:05No, man.
11:06He's had too many voices getting all up in his business.
11:10But that's where you start.
11:11That's where you got to start, Tyler.
11:12If you're D'Amico Rines.
11:13I don't disagree with you, for the record.
11:15If you're D'Amico Rines, that's where you got to start, man.
11:17But I don't think it's a bad thing if he just said, that's just not where I am right
11:22now.
11:22I don't want to.
11:24I'm doing my own thing.
11:25I'm preparing myself.
11:26But again, if we're at a spot, if he's in such a bad spot, it goes back to my number
11:30one of, he done stole every bit.
11:32If we're in such a bad spot where you can't go see your mom and your dad, for that matter,
11:36you can't go back to the West Coast and see your people for a week in your off season
11:42and slide into the fanatics deal.
11:44I bet he was there.
11:45He can't avoid that damn camera.
11:47Did you see the pictures?
11:47He wasn't there.
11:48I mean, every quarter, you can't be seen.
11:50We ain't seen him.
11:51He was at a Rockets game, I believe.
11:53We ain't seen him.
11:54He's been to him and Brighton somewhere.
11:55Hey, man.
11:56Hey, man.
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