00:00if you're hanging out with a guy and that guy is the head coach but i don't think joe determines
00:05people's contracts no but it's just you you gotta follow what i'm saying overall right joe is gonna
00:13be he's gonna sit there with joe and say man why you didn't fight for me harder it's for me
00:18to get
00:18that money and joe might go i did but if you're the head coach you should be able to make
00:25that
00:25happen nine nine seven eight text it's not like it's a cold play concert but like wait i i have
00:33to
00:33say this not just because uh wiggy had a epic rant at my expense yesterday i feel like you kind
00:40of
00:40have to defer to him a bit like none of us have been in a locker room like that like
00:44i don't know
00:44how it is i mean obviously rivers was really hard with coach harper but in general i feel like wiggy
00:50has a pretty good grasp on what this would mean i don't even think it's as much about those two
00:55it's about what it means to the other guys that are in the locker room yeah that's whatever yeah
00:59you're curtis you're spot on that's part of it and then a lot of it becomes you know when a
01:04guy
01:04might want to talk contract right the head coach is a big part of that well 508 texter says
01:10gerard mayo got killed for playing cards on a plane with a bunch of guys that's true right yeah but
01:15winning changes everything like every you can make an example of a million things that people do and if
01:20they win we all ignore it like if that team went 10 and 7 would anybody talk about him playing
01:24cards
01:24no no but you know but you you could say like vrabel right vrabel has a very good relationship
01:30with these guys ask them who you know how their day's going and all all those type of things
01:35but i think vrabel would feel a little weird to be like on a boat in miami with steph dicks
01:41yeah or
01:42hey hey drake may so if he was like at a celtics game with drake may that's weird but i
01:48not like i mean
01:50is is vrabel and drake may saying hey let's get the wives we'll get there we'll jump in the um
01:55the uber and we'll go together we'll go to dinner we'll we'll hang out we'll go to the celtics game
01:59like it's kind of like weird it's one thing if the celtics say hey we got tickets we'd love for
02:05all
02:05you guys to come down here and they all end up there because what does drake may then say to
02:10him
02:10when he's going in for his contract and that's the part that or other players are like
02:16why are you so cool like with the head coach like are you in there saying oh so and so
02:21said
02:21this or so and so said that about you they're not doing this like there's a lot of things that
02:25go
02:26into play where the players you respect your coach you might respect them and respect them as a friend
02:33but the players always like it's us against everybody else and i feel like cora did it in a way
02:41where
02:41everybody was a part of it so he had the barbecues last year that he talked about and then
02:46i think it was this past year where if he saw a couple guys out together at dinner or maybe
02:52that
02:52was doc rivers i don't know there was a coach recently in the region that would pay for dinner
02:56when his players would get together not that they not that he would eat with them but he wouldn't go
03:00he would just pay pick up dinner for everybody he'd want to make sure that guys were you know bonding
03:04off the field as well well the twitch chat makes a great point which is that this perspective is coming
03:09from the man who won't go to any co-workers weddings that's co-worker that's different yeah these are
03:16co-workers no no no no no that's different jalen brown and jason tatum are co-workers what do you
03:23go
03:23out for drinks with len laird no unless it's in a work situation if he invited you out for a
03:33nice
03:33little drink at brookline maybe go catch a socks game together you wouldn't go i mean i would nice
03:38little drink in brookline sounds awful i would go a daiquiri i would go this is on a stolen land
03:48i i would go because i would i would want to know where my positioning is at the station so
03:56for when
03:56my next contract comes available who's on my side and who's fighting for me okay so like i would go
04:03to get intel right so you would derrick white this yeah that's what derrick that's what they're
04:07probably what derrick white was doing that's what derrick white is definitely doing well
04:12derrick white's making like the car wash he's going to every boston sporting event maybe he just likes
04:16joe mazula i know joe mazula called him on his birthday left him a voicemail saying hey we're gonna
04:21everybody thinks we're gonna suck i love it happy birthday i i mean so you would that sounds like
04:27hell wrestling with joe mazula shoot me in the head so you'd have it sounds like a lot of fun
04:31you'd
04:31have no problem just going out to dinner with your boss just you your boss and his wife and and
04:38hanging
04:39out and having him come over your house and that type of non-work related wiki it's yeah it's not
04:47that
04:48odd so what what happens how's the relationship change when you go for your contract and he says
04:54or she says no we can't do that well that's life but we sometimes the company's not in the place
05:00that you want well but that's life you're my boss are you so afraid of an awkward interaction with
05:06no i don't i don't want to have to look at you differently oh my god you're not giving me
05:12a raise
05:13even though we went to dinner together right are we supposed to be friends like if i'm working i'm a
05:18if i'm the guy and you're supposed to be my friend and we hanging out like that and we breaking
05:22bread derrick white hey don't worry i'm gonna get you everything you want my friendships are not
05:26that's what i'm doing if i'm joe mazula if i'm hanging out hey we doing juju uh uh jujitsu classes
05:32together and you my home we out at western events friendship is not about what can you do for me
05:38in
05:38the future jujitsu i don't know what type of friends you have but if if we friends and you come
05:44to me and i'm your boss and i can get you that bread i'm like listen don't worry about it
05:48so you
05:48it's the wrong thing for joe mazula to do always huh always because i think it's going to be an
05:53awkward situation when it comes down to whether it's money or how you know guys might look at or
05:59if you're not playing well or you know maybe act a little bit oh why does he treat derrick a
06:04little
06:04bit better because he goes to wrestling with him so other players are going to look at him funny like
06:09oh so you sent me to the bench but derrick you're like are you good yeah so i mean you
06:15think it's weird
06:16mego or greg if nobody else was invited like no no i don't i don't man i don't know what
06:22you guys
06:23you're from another world are you seventh grade girls no you are from another world compliment
06:28come on you are from another world i guess i am because i'm not like up in everybody else's
06:34business oh my god they went without me but it's your business not really yeah it is if you
06:40kicking it with the boss you look like the teacher's pet and then if you're not the boss
06:46right no but he is a decision maker last year when i asked for sweet tickets they said that
06:51we're all taken but i saw greg and bobes and four people and i said f off ken he's a
06:56decision maker
06:57that's what i look at it okay well you also had to be self-aware and real
07:01wiki you hang out with greg greg makes decisions yeah there's a lot of them if i said to greg
07:06and this
07:06is where we're friends if i said to greg hey i deserve x amount on my next contract greg would
07:14go in there and say this is what he deserves that damn rights damn right he might not right but
07:19he
07:19may not be able to get it all for right right he forgets his hero that's exactly what joe mazula
07:23can do no no no no go into brad stevens no brad i think derrick deserves this no brad can
07:28be like
07:28i disagree i feel like joe as a coach you have more power when it comes to financial elements we
07:36saw it with alex cora we see it with uh patriots with with vrabel or belichick as a coach you
07:44have
07:45way more power when it comes down to getting that guy the money and why isn't bregman still here but
07:50that's a great example that's because bregman's relationship with cora impacted negatively his
07:56relationship with rafael devers rafael devers is like you guys are boys and you're just kicking me
08:00off this base now you're asking me to do something else i think this is actually an example in wiki's
08:04favor that seems like a devers problem yeah because bregman's no no longer here no i know
08:09because you know why because cora goes hey listen i gotta step away from this alex because i know
08:16you're looking for a certain thing our relationship and that proves my point now all of a sudden you
08:20gotta step away from it wiki you're so spot on he told us right that boris didn't let him know
08:25what
08:25was going on this year right now i gotta step away from it why perfect rather than saying hey what
08:31you want bregman yep i'll get it done for you now so it's like i gotta step away how do
08:36you feel
08:37about bradfo going fishing with uh red sox players when he's covering them bradfo can only get them
08:43uh baseball isn't boring t-shirts and hats i mean is that the name of his podcast
08:47yeah
08:48yeah
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