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00:13I promise not to speak of going there or meeting him.
00:20The journeys, the houses, that was part of the vow.
00:27It was so beautiful to be part of the sisterhood, I promise not to, not to share any of it.
00:42Tous les gourous vous disent, mais les adeptes sont libres, ils n'ont pas de chaĂźnes aux pieds, ils n
00:49'ont pas de chaĂźnes aux mains.
01:09Cette absence de liberté, c'est parce qu'il y a des barreaux dans le cerveau, des barreaux
01:16qui ont Ă©tĂ© mis par le gourou dans la tĂȘte.
01:20French law is spécifique.
01:23If you are abusing people who are under influence, that's a big problem.
01:29I cannot sit on my hands and do nothing.
01:58I went on the train to Paris.
02:03The receptionist at Tara Yoga Centre in London, she sent me the number for a woman I'd never
02:09met.
02:10I think she was Romanian and I had to communicate with her via telegram, so via a secure messaging
02:16app.
02:17But she said, but I had to, there was an understanding I had to delete those messages as soon as
02:20she'd
02:21sent them.
02:24She was telling me that it was absolutely secret and I couldn't tell anyone where I was going.
02:32And I had to just tell my parents that I was going on a silent retreat in Denmark.
02:39It was easier to not question, just go with it and just trust, trust that I was where I
02:45was meant to be.
02:48That was how I got around the fact that I was going to be uncontactable.
02:59My invitation came after the end of the second year and said, we've been invited to meet
03:06Grieg.
03:06It's a spiritual retreat.
03:08It's going to be really beneficial for you.
03:10I flew there from Copenhagen to Paris.
03:18At the train station, a girl came to me and she said, are you Claire?
03:22Claire's my middle name.
03:23I don't know why they thought my name was Claire.
03:25She's like, are you Claire?
03:26I said, well, no, I'm Ashley.
03:28And she took me to a car.
03:34I had to give her my phone.
03:38She took the SIM card out of the phone and wrapped that in foil, wrapped the phone in
03:42foil.
03:43She said, oh, we're like the FBI, you know, or the CIA.
03:47And they said, for your protection, we need to, it's important you don't know where we're
03:53going.
03:53And so in order to do that, I need you to wear this hat and sunglasses that are blacked out.
04:01They said that Interpol have a warrant out for his arrest.
04:06The spiritual guide, he was a fugitive, but he was in hiding.
04:11And they said he was a victim of human rights violations.
04:17The corrupt Romanian police had been responsible for this.
04:24I was nervous, but there's this overall trust of the organization.
04:29Like, okay, there's a secret thing happening.
04:31They're trying to protect us.
04:33We need to not know where it is because he's in hiding because all of these things have
04:37happened to him, right?
04:43He wasn't really showcased all that much to the men in the school.
04:50So I was curious.
04:54I also asked whether my tantric partners had seen him as well or visited, when they quickly
05:01dismissed it and made it very clear to me that no, they've not seen him.
05:06I had no reason to not believe them.
05:09I just thought, oh, okay.
05:11But that was the sort of first time I actually did question, are there people going to see
05:17him that we're not really aware of?
05:19There are all these hidden camps and retreats that people just disappear for weeks on end.
05:25And you hadn't told Ziggy?
05:28No.
05:30Why?
05:32Because I couldn't.
05:33Like, I had made a vow.
05:34I wasn't allowed to talk to anyone.
05:36So I couldn't say to Ziggy.
05:38I was, like, under oath.
05:43There was some interesting pieces through the media back in Romania.
05:49All of these wacky stories, these constant scandals.
05:55Our teacher told us he was wrongly trialled and wrongly prosecuted back then.
06:01The same thing's happening now.
06:03And that was pretty much all we were told.
06:09I got the sense that we were driving pretty far away from the city into the suburbs.
06:15I was just telling myself, surrender.
06:19Just surrender.
06:21Surrender.
06:25Eventually we pulled up at this house and with the hat and glasses still on, I was taken inside.
06:35The house kind of confirmed for me that we were definitely in a suburban area.
06:39It was a three-story house.
06:41It was quite big.
06:42It had lots of bedrooms.
06:44And the fence had this kind of, like, greenish sort of, like, almost like a tarp or like a netting.
07:00Green Warren Bolero, he was given since 2016 by French authorities.
07:04française mais avant ça on savait qu'il n'était pas un mouvement du yoga normal
07:16le mouvement misa avait déjà été mentionné auprÚs des autorités de police locale parce
07:22que les activités générer des nuisances de l'inquiétude de la part du voisinage
07:29le travail d'enquĂȘte qu'on a rĂ©alisĂ© permis d'identifier une demi-douzaine de
07:35lieux avec beaucoup beaucoup participants beaucoup de victimes qui se passent potentiellement sur une
07:41durée de temps trÚs longue et nous les questions que nous devons nous poser dans ce moment là c'est
07:48d'abord est ce que c'est une affaire de criminalitĂ© organisĂ©e de proxĂ©nĂ©tisme de traite des ĂȘtres
07:54humains ou est ce que c'est une affaire de dérive sectaire
08:02nous voyons dans la maison et
08:06il y avait ces deux garçons sur le coucher watching pornographie comme
08:11hardcore porn sur la télévision et ils ont sorti de gifflement et
08:16la télévision
08:46received us and they're all Romanian so anyone in any position of authority while I was in Paris is
08:52Romanian and there's this feeling that you're inside this well-oiled machine.
09:01The first thing they did is they went through all of our bags and they looked for certain things
09:05maybe an extra phone or some other paperwork and they took anything any identifying details
09:10and any electronic devices and then they introduced the program and they said you're you'll
09:18eventually be taken to meet Greg but before that happens there's all of these other things you need
09:23to do. I had to do the vows again putting my hand on the Bible and taking those vows on
09:32my health and
09:32my spiritual evolution that I would never speak of anything that happened there and then I had to
09:37write these forms right on these forms agreeing to punishments one of the things I had to sign
09:43was agreeing to the punishment of shaving my head for five years immediately if I was caught trying
09:49to steal any of the secret teachings from the house and knowing that in Tantra sexual initiation was a
09:59thing I had gathered this impression that it was likely that the sexual initiations were happening
10:06and that the spiritual guide was probably engaging in them.
10:16I knew I knew that it would be a sexual initiation and here was this opportunity for
10:26beyond satisfaction a kind of ultimate happiness and enlightenment it was a promise you will
10:36experience these things and everything will change.
10:45I grew up in Oxford
10:49I had a privileged upbringing we were we were very lucky I went to a private school we went on
10:58great holidays
11:01I was a very sensitive child um very shy I changed quite a lot as a teenager you know we
11:10started to go out drinking and you know smoking and um having fun
11:24I reached a point in my late twenties when I was partying a lot I was in quite a difficult
11:30relationship
11:31I noticed that there was a pattern in terms of the relationships I was in the type of people I
11:36was being
11:36attracted to and my answer would be to go out and get wasted it numbed the feelings temporarily
11:46when I was 29 I started going to 12-step groups I really cut down on the partying
11:54I started to look into yoga and meditation
12:01so when I found Tara yoga center
12:08there was a sense of like a click and aha moment
12:13I was completely intrigued by the possibility that I could have a deeply spiritual experience
12:21in lovemaking
12:29for the first week in Paris
12:32I was just focused on getting those tasks done watching the films we had to watch a series of porn
12:38films
12:39write about how we felt about them and what kind of states we perceived that the women were having
12:45it was like everything that had ever happened in the school had been leading up to this
12:55yeah there was a woman there who'd been there for like two or three months and I said
12:59when are you leaving and she's like soon I hope but like he had to wait for his permission to
13:03leave
13:04like she couldn't she didn't know when she was going
13:06I remember walking out once and seeing the girl that won Miss Shakti
13:11back in August she was there and her head had been shaved and there was this note about her how
13:18she her ego had gotten so big and she needed to kind of be put back in her place kind
13:22of thing
13:22but she was sort of like cut off from everyone it's like that's what happens to Miss Shakti
13:28that's what happens to the winner her head gets shaved
13:35it was becoming clear that every single woman who was there had been initiated they did say no
13:42sometimes he doesn't but I didn't see anyone there who hadn't been initiated
13:50so they kind of feed you through this thing for quite a few days and it was about day five
13:56or six
13:58where they said okay now that you've done all these things we can tell you that the reason
14:03that you're here when you meet with him there will be an opportunity to receive sexual initiation from
14:10him and they framed it as if it was an option
14:23as it happened he decided that I should arrive to him on the day of my 30th birthday
14:31I was taken by a driver again
14:36with the hat and the sunglasses and this time it was to an apartment and I believe that he parked
14:43in
14:43a kind of underground parking garage
14:48most of a friend had been there already
14:53I found it quite incredible that after so many years none of the
14:58the neighbors sensed that these guys were coming in and out of that house
15:04every day all the time
15:06at least three or four girls a day for sure
15:11some girls would go every month his favorites
15:18and he knocked at the door we had to wait for a minute before it was opened
15:23and then it was Greg who opened the door and he welcomed me and gave a hug and said happy
15:30birthday
15:32and then he kind of sent me down the hall and went back into his room
15:38oh whoa okay it's the real person that everyone's so obsessed with it's this guy
15:44and he's really old looking into into his eyes it was almost like a like an empty space
15:55that pulls you in at the same time as being empty
16:00i couldn't sense any emotions from him nothing
16:13i'm in this weird really tiny apartment there's just books everywhere
16:21there's bookshelves on each side of the hallway and his room and the other room
16:30if you go down the hallway there's a the toilet and the bathroom
16:40a tiny little corner where they have like a bar fridge a really small fridge
16:46and then there's the actual bedroom which is just an average size bedroom
16:52and that is where the girls are kept who are taken to him for sex
17:00at any point there's always a few girls there
17:06everyone's sweaty they take your clothes so you don't really have like sometimes people are naked
17:11or you're just wearing something very minimal so you don't really have your own clothes
17:16the place is locked from the outside so you can't open the door from the inside
17:24and you're sleeping there you're eating there you're doing everything in that space
17:30he had a team of girls who were cooking for him so they will send it to him he will
17:34eat a little bit and then he will give all the rest to the girls they will store it in
17:38the fridge
17:40but the rule was like you couldn't throw anything on the garbage so you'll have to eat everything which
17:45was there before you could open a new one a new batch of food and it would be like just
17:49like girls
17:49just like eating this moldy food like because they had to otherwise like that was the rule otherwise
17:54you would get like in trouble and stuff
17:58every so often someone gets called in to meet with him
18:02you hear them having sex for hours you hear really loud music
18:07she eventually comes out and really soon after that she's picked up and taken away to the third
18:13house and then often not long after that someone else turns up and takes her place and there's
18:19there's people there saying i've been here six times i love it it's the most amazing experience it
18:25gives me so much um and they believe that do you believe that
18:32maybe in some way i still felt really uncertain um but i felt like i was open to to see
18:47i had a fantastic experience we started the the ritual going deeply into the transfiguration
19:01just as we were taught in the tantra classes
19:08of seeing ourselves and seeing each other as these deeply spiritual beings
19:17it's the perfect union of the inner masculine then the feminine the yin and the yang
19:25and shiva and shakti
19:31i almost ceased to exist
19:38somehow i traveled outside of my body
19:44he guided me through every single little step
19:54for me it was a spectacular really beautiful meeting and after that i was complete
20:05like i wanted to to believe that that it was going to you know be like a milestone for me
20:13in my
20:14spiritual path i wanted it to be of course
20:20it was always difficult for me i never felt that i was you know voluptuous full of
20:28vitality i never felt that i fell into the category of you know this kind of awakened shakti woman
20:38i am from the south of argentina a city called bariloche
20:42and it's in the mountains in the limit with chile when i turned 18 i decided to move
20:50to buenos aires on my own
20:54back then i was taking drugs on the weekends
20:59and then when i found atman at the time of course it came with all of these nice people that
21:05cared for me
21:06they were much more focused on spiritual things
21:11and it was just like such an upgrade
21:15and i could see how much trauma and how much pain i had inside of me from my childhood that
21:23i had never
21:23really uh addressed i wanted to be more involved in the school so i moved to denmark i lived in
21:35the
21:36ashram i ate there i did everything there i barely went outside i really thought that to have an initiation
21:43with him that it would help me i thought it was like the next step i had to take in
21:49order to evolve
21:53i had to take in order to go to the school so i had to take in order to go
21:57to the school so i had to take in order to go to the school
21:59before you go there basically you will drink water like uh two liters of water or like a lot of
22:05water
22:07you also need to bless the water with a special formula that you are given by by greek
22:15and then you need to shower before and shave you have to shave completely
22:22they say that if you do enough yoga and meditation so that you're in a really good spiritual state
22:29to prepare yourself sexually in some way to to be centered and grounded and focused and ready
22:36to meet him
22:43he came in the middle of the night i was sleeping he touched with his finger the sole of my
22:49feet while
22:50i was sleeping and i woke up like that then like it's your turn
22:57everything had been leading up to this is this monumental event
23:05but this repeated thought just kept coming into my head you're going up a mountain
23:11and shiva's at the top going up a mountain and shiva's at the top
23:19i don't remember much about the sex i was very out of my body very disorientated and frozen um and
23:29even in the memory i've blocked a lot of it out which is convenient but yeah it was a long
23:36process
23:38it could have been two hours in total
23:43you start doing one one of the positions which i think they come from kamasutra so besides learning
23:49the postures you also learn how to move from one to another in a graceful way so that you will
23:54still
23:55remain you know uh in penetration somehow
24:05i felt it just came in i don't want to do this
24:11and then almost immediately another voice came in
24:16you're being superficial you're being shallow you need to transfigure him
24:21um transfiguration the doctrine of the school they say with the tantricles
24:31don't focus on the physical don't be superficial it's not a spiritual attitude
24:38and did you transfigure him yes
25:00the idea is that you could look at a person and really genuinely the shape of their body would
25:08start to change and would look different
25:21when you're transfiguring your lover into the shiva and the great man that he can be he will become that
25:34so you have to have a lot of transfiguration be able to see beyond what's there because otherwise
25:42yeah as an old man like why would you want to be with him you know
25:49but if you can see it as shiva the spiritual master that's going to help you evolve spiritually
25:57then okay that's a different thing i just knew i really really really didn't want to go through
26:03with the initiation and then they said you need to write to him and tell him
26:09and i said that i needed to work through my own demons but i really hoped that he could support
26:14me if
26:15he was my master through the yoga practices and the meditations and he wrote back to me full of
26:24it was like he was yelling on the page you could feel the anger and the heat and the rage
26:29through the
26:29pen it was just capital letters in this like red fountain pen and he said you lie
26:36and then i was like but how am i lying like that's my feeling you lie because you have a
26:42big ego and a
26:43great bad will and he said on this note that only you have this response because you are manipulated by
26:52demons who don't want you to receive divine power and for all the love that i manifest towards you
26:59your reaction is bizarre morbid sickly perverted completely lacking any goodwill or any aspiration
27:07to know god do you feel empathy now answer me like it was like he was like yelling at me
27:14he said the initiation will exercise your demons as in and as in like exorcism and they said you've
27:25been summoned to see him tonight when they gave me this letter like he wants to see you tonight
27:29you've been summoned to him and i went down to the meditation room there's a meditation room in the
27:34basement where it's silent and i went sat in there because i knew that no one could talk to me
27:38in there
27:38and i prayed um i prayed to my nana i said nana just please just give me a sign
27:48what i should do just give me a sign and that was when i first had the thought like
27:55maybe i could leave that but before that like that thought was too crazy like i wouldn't
28:01wouldn't have thought to do that i mean there was big fence with a locked gate
28:07they had all of my belongings they had my phone
28:11they had my wallet i had no way of speaking the language i didn't know where i was
28:20nothing felt real anymore and i actually thought i was going crazy i thought maybe i was in a state
28:24of
28:24psychosis i didn't know what world i lived in i couldn't trust myself but i also couldn't trust
28:34them no this is wrong this is wrong that in that moment something snapped i need to go i need
28:44to get
28:44out of here right now before i was allowed to leave they made me write this multi-page statement
28:57that you have to copy out in your own handwriting word for word and then you have to submit it
29:03to
29:03them to to cross check it to make sure that you've included everything in it and that it's correct
29:08and then they said oh yeah we we need to get a video of you reading out this statement and
29:14i
29:14wasn't about to resist or object to any instructions at this point i just wanted to get out
29:20during my meeting with greek everything went on normally naturally and with much common sense
29:27so that i cannot complain of anything that throughout the meeting with greek may have traumatized me
29:33it was like a legal document i specified the fact i had to read it on camera and i remember
29:38just thinking in my head they're going to try and use this against me one day i specified the fact
29:43that there was nothing that happened against my will and i have not been raped neither forced
29:50nor aggressed or blackmailed or hypnotized or beaten or cursed or humiliated or tortured or offended
30:01or locked up something really legal sounding to say that nothing happened to me here and if i say
30:08anything to the contrary this proves that i'm lying this final declaration of mine has been signed
30:15by me personally in the presence of two witnesses that guarantee that i was in a normal state of mind
30:21when i finalized and signed it doing that gave them permission to let me go signed ashley freckleton
30:35and the driver said where do you want to be taken to i said just take me to the cheapest
30:38hotel you
30:39can find in the city this can't be real it has to be a nightmare how do i wake up
30:46from this
30:53in france on a dispositif specialised to fight against the infractions who are committed to the
31:00dérives sectaires and in fact this notion of mental health that we developed in the case of the
31:07dérives sectaires so i know that this dispositif is very particular to the france
31:14un abus de faiblesse donc on va abuser de la faiblesse de quelqu'un et c'est pas une
31:19personne qui est en fait en tĂȘte faiblesse parce qu'elle est ĂągĂ©e ou malade mais parce qu'elle a
31:23été placée en état de suggestion psychologique progressivement par des techniques l'emprise
31:30mentale va ĂȘtre mise en place et va permettre de d'annuler le libre arbitre des victimes
31:39une personne perd son libre arbitre et accepté de subir des choses qu'elle n'aurait jamais accepté autrement
31:55after the initiation with the spiritual guide i was exhausted disoriented
32:02i felt really shaky and i think i was even physically shaking but then one of the coordinator
32:11women she approached me she said i'm part of a very special women's integration it's all women
32:19but it's in a different location we've got a swimming pool it's near a really nice city
32:26and people call it the garden of miracles
32:31and then she said now that you know these things that most people don't know you have a responsibility
32:41it's your responsibility to not lower your consciousness and go back to doing things the
32:49way that you did them when you didn't know she asked me if i was interested and i said yes
33:00and so we went together to the bus stop in paris
33:07it was my first chance to sleep for like almost 42 hours probably
33:15then when we got to prague we were taken to a suburban house on the main line heading out of
33:23prague
33:27they sat me down and they explained to me what would be happening in the house
33:33we would do erotic rituals in the morning
33:40and then after that you had to do a four-hour shift six days a week on camgirl site
33:56the way that they spoke about it is that because we were doing the rituals in the morning
34:02that energy from the rituals was going to amplify our power and our magnetism in karma yoga and on the
34:12site and we were going to be able to transmit that energy to the people watching us and to the
34:20paying clients
34:21so that then these men could hopefully start to connect to an energy beyond the base sexual energy
34:30the idea of karma yoga is that selfless service and you're you're offering for a greater purpose
34:41we were going to be saving their souls in a way
34:53so you walk down the stairs to the basement and if you went round to the right there was the
35:01hot and
35:01wet channel room tiny room airless hot no windows
35:10so you logged on and then you had your page and your chat up where you saw the image of
35:18yourself being streamed
35:22sometimes the guys would ask you you know what did you do yesterday evening and we were told pretend
35:28that you have a normal life tell them that you went out for drinks with your friends you went home
35:33and cooked pasta
35:36we were told to be careful we got told that there were people who were spying on us who would
35:42try and
35:42trip us up they'll ask oh you know would you practice yoga and we're out to blow our cover
35:52in those six months i was never paid for any of the work i did
36:00there was this notion that when i looked at myself on the camera
36:04i was seeing past the cheap outfits
36:11and as i had done many times before over the past few years looking at my body and seeing something
36:19divine
36:26so much is at stake if the answer to the question which has always been yes yes yes i believe
36:32i trust
36:34and then you get to a point where it's a maybe or a no
36:39there's so much of your life your internal belief system your relationships
36:46it's just everything you stand to lose as far as you can perceive everything including your your own
36:56spiritual future or salvation
37:15i booked the next flight that i could get back to australia
37:20i just wanted to be at home with mom and dad i just wanted to catch my breath
37:25i didn't work for about a month and i just tried to figure out what happened just try to unpack
37:30it i
37:30just was so confused
37:35maybe a few months after i got home i got really drunk at a party like really drunk and i
37:43think i just
37:43word vomited to a friend i ended up just telling him when i was telling him about what had happened
37:50i just saw the look on his face of just shock and just he's like this is really bad like
37:57this is
37:57really really bad that was when i sort of started i think to talk more about it
38:04i get a call from ashley basically explaining why she left
38:11i felt such shame and guilt
38:18because immediately i'm thinking to myself here's ashley barely involved with the school
38:24if a woman with that level of commitment to the school is getting proteins that meet the spiritual
38:31guide then obviously you know my partners practically all the women of the school
38:37have probably gone and had this experience too this is so sick these poor women
38:47who on earth is this guy
38:48who on earth is this guy
39:19i was a student in university when the scandal broke back in 2004
39:27i remember seeing all those images on tv about gregory ambivalaru
39:35more recently i became a investigative reporter
39:41i started looking more into this group
39:50this newspapers cover a very large period of time starting from the early 90s until 2004 when the scandal
40:00really broke
40:03i really was surprised that this was still going on
40:09because this is an old story in romania it has been a story for 30 years now
40:29everybody in romania knows who the grand bivalaru was he was basically a household name
40:36so
40:36i
40:36i
40:36i
40:37i
40:38i
40:38i
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