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00:00Hello, one and all!
00:02Welcome to another episode of Adventuring Party.
00:03I'm your humble GM, Brennan Lee Mulligan.
00:04With me, as always, are our Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:06Say hi, Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:10Is that a bunch of teeth?
00:12Sorry.
00:12That's the most amount of teeth you've coughed so many times.
00:16If you were like, just out and about on the town,
00:19and someone did a cough like that,
00:20and all their teeth got out.
00:22I would laugh.
00:23That's LA, baby.
00:24What the?
00:24Only in LA.
00:26That's another day on the two.
00:29It's a person walking on the highway that you're seeing.
00:31No, no, the bus, the two bus.
00:33The two bus.
00:34We were thinking about the two freeway.
00:35I was also thinking about the two.
00:36You're walking on the shoulder of the two,
00:38someone passing you the other direction.
00:41Only on the two.
00:41That crazy person, another day on the two,
00:44and I keep walking on the freeway, barefoot.
00:46Just like.
00:47The two would be the worst.
00:49The two would be the worst.
00:49It was also like a horrifically dangerous highway.
00:51It was made for horses, and it was not updated.
00:55That was for horses.
00:56You're thinking of the 110.
00:57No, the 110 was made for buggies.
00:59Little like.
01:00The two is not made, there's no way the two is made for horses.
01:02The 110's the nation's first.
01:04At the end of the day.
01:04What's the one that you get to a stop sign,
01:06and it's like two apart?
01:06That's the 110 north.
01:07That's the 110.
01:08That's the 110 beyond downtown LA.
01:09I watched one TikTok, and I probably got it wrong.
01:13What's up?
01:13This is LA in a minute.
01:14You're not going to pay attention to this, Beardsley,
01:16so go ahead and scroll on.
01:18I watched the whole thing.
01:20The two and the 110 are very different.
01:23Oh, you're LA in a minute?
01:26Whoa.
01:27You're LA in a minute.
01:28You're LA in a minute.
01:28Wait, they show his face on that.
01:30Yeah, I have a different face for the show.
01:34Yeah, I figured it out.
01:36It's like those vloggers, or you know those videos where it's like they do like an animation?
01:41Do you know what I'm talking about?
01:42Yes, that's how I do it.
01:43It is.
01:43You're explaining how I do it.
01:45Continue.
01:47Continue.
01:48So the 110 was made for horses, and I am barefoot, bloodstained, walking down it.
01:53It was made for buggies.
01:54Another day on the two, and I'm on the 110.
01:55Watching multiple people cough while their cheese out.
01:57Can I just briefly correct the history of what's being bastardized in my hometown?
02:01We must.
02:01It was built for Model Ts, and they put swerves in it because the cars were so slow,
02:06it made the drive more interesting.
02:08Yes.
02:08What?
02:09Don't say yes, you said horses.
02:10It was for horses, though.
02:12Can I ask a question?
02:13Hmm.
02:13Brendan, when you were pitching this to Dropout, was this what you were hoping for?
02:18To be perfectly honest, an episode where people fart so fast that they get super speed,
02:23and we weep about the nature of death and grief, is the thesis writ large.
02:29Hey Siri, am I barefoot, bloodstained, walking down the 110 going just another day on the two?
02:35Yeah.
02:36It was made for horses.
02:38It's just not horses.
02:39It was made for horses.
02:39I love that.
02:40I more meant this show that we're doing right now, talking about L.A. in a minute.
02:44Oh, L.A. in a minute.
02:44Was this what you were hoping for this show?
02:45My very popular TikTok account?
02:47Honestly, honestly, I love to take my foot off the gas in an adventuring party.
02:51You do, you do.
02:52Yeah, no, it's good.
02:52I like it.
02:53I thought this was a beautiful episode.
02:55Crazy episode.
02:55Okay, yes, nice.
02:57We got Huggy out of the red.
02:59No one else even got close.
03:02Wow, that's amazing.
03:02Which is kinda great.
03:03That's huge.
03:04From a 10 to a 6.
03:05That's beautiful.
03:06Wait, where are you at, Kimia?
03:08I'm at a two.
03:09I'm okay.
03:09Two, okay.
03:10He's hanging on.
03:11Everyone's at a two and you're at a one.
03:13I feel like, I was saying this off camera, and I just wanna say it, but sometimes when
03:22you're playing with so many people, it's hard to maintain the integrity of the story and
03:29sometimes find myself in a way of like, yeah, let's just keep going in a direction more so,
03:35it's done.
03:36Yeah.
03:37And I thought it was really cool how you were able to kind of plant your feet in your character's
03:44arc in a way that like, was the direction.
03:51Yeah.
03:51And like, brought this into like, such a beautiful territory that was really like, felt very profound
04:00and real, and really, really appreciated it.
04:04Yeah.
04:04Absolutely.
04:05And as like, a character whose whole thing was not advocating for themself, and then being
04:10like, this is the moment I do that, and it alters the whole, we're not like, running
04:15out the door to try to beat the rain really fast.
04:17Yeah.
04:17Like, we're like, taking a moment here.
04:19Cause I also was like, our whole thing is we go to these places and we help them process,
04:23and once we, there's some level of healing, then we leave.
04:27And I was like, we're literally about to be like, y'all suck.
04:30We gotta go save those books.
04:32And I was like, okay, I guess that's one story, but it was really cool to, it's so satisfying
04:36to not have to do that.
04:38Yeah.
04:38I mean like, you guys, I think too, gave me such excellent, cause I, I also just like,
04:44going to this was like, oh, I don't really know how, cause it is like something needs
04:48to happen to change this character's mind and to like, be able to say yes to these fun things.
04:55And I really didn't know what that was going to be exactly.
04:58And it was really fun just sort of like jumping out of the plane and going like.
05:02Yeah.
05:03What was it?
05:03Huh?
05:04What specifically was it?
05:06Was that moment?
05:06I legitimately do think it was Connor.
05:09We having that.
05:09It was a great scene.
05:11That was so fun.
05:11The roll up top and getting to like, talk about that and then being like, oh, it's
05:15like, okay, like I'm here to listen and like having that moment.
05:18And then like that coming back later.
05:20Cause then it built enough trust with Connor that Connor then saying something a little
05:23bit later was enough of an opening to like, I think at least start opening that, those
05:29floodgates a little bit.
05:30Totally.
05:32Whoa.
05:32So sick.
05:33There's a, it was really wonderful.
05:35I loved, I love any touching heartfelt connection riddled with absolutely insane detail.
05:43Love a, love a like, you know, it's honestly, you know what it made me think of this is like,
05:49it made me think of Jawbone in Fantasy High of the thing.
05:52It's like that fucking archetypal, but you just being like, my dad was a derp.
05:56Your dad said I have, I assume what he meant was I have to do me and went into a
06:03canyon.
06:04I gotta do me.
06:06Rain.
06:06There's, there's enough similarities and sort of a very far away bird's eye view of it.
06:13Yeah.
06:14Um, it was very, it was really, really fun.
06:17I went to a Sparks game yesterday, watching basketball and I kept saying, come on now.
06:23Come on now.
06:24And it's from you.
06:25And I don't know when I picked that up, but I was earnestly saying that at plays and Frankie
06:30was like, will you please stop doing that?
06:32Dang.
06:33I don't know where this came from and I don't know what character this is, but why are you
06:38doing that?
06:39But we're just in the crowd and I'm like, ah, come on now.
06:41There's definitely some, some Pappy Connor middle ground, which Pappy is the character
06:47I played last time.
06:48That was like a old cowboy.
06:50And then just like a lot of weird Alabama isms that have just seeped in.
06:56Cause the University of Alabama roll tide is what they say for, you know, the, the football
07:02team there.
07:02But a lot, like a lot of that ends up being like, like, like, come on now.
07:08Like, there's a lot of that kind of while watching.
07:11Like the way it morphs.
07:12Yeah.
07:12Spelled almost.
07:14It's never written out anywhere.
07:16K E E E M O N E.
07:18Come on.
07:19Come on.
07:19Come on now.
07:20Come on now.
07:21Come on now.
07:22Come on.
07:23Come on, Pappy.
07:24Well, if we're talking about stims, Allie, you, Quinn saying, I ate my husband, no seasoning,
07:31has been in my brain.
07:33I ate my husband, no seasoning.
07:35Forever.
07:35Not even salt.
07:36No seasoning.
07:37I want y'all to know it wasn't like a culinary impulse that led her to that.
07:41It was definitely something else.
07:42Panic.
07:43Panic.
07:44Panic.
07:44Not a dash of cumin.
07:46No.
07:47Be funny.
07:47That's the justification.
07:48You were just really craving like Lawry's seasoned salt.
07:53Yeah.
07:53No, I, it was about the dip.
07:54I like made a gorgeous salt.
07:55Sort of like why I go to Del Tacos.
07:57Yeah.
07:57It's really not for the food.
07:59It's for Del Scorcho sauce.
08:00It's a vehicle for Scorcho.
08:01I agree.
08:02Human.
08:03Huh?
08:03Human, no cumin.
08:05Yeah, human, no cumin.
08:05Okay.
08:06Come on now.
08:07Come on now.
08:08Come on now.
08:09Human, human.
08:10Human, no cumin.
08:12If I think about your character game, like especially the way you pitched it too hard
08:16at any given point in time, it will always make me laugh.
08:20That was a no.
08:21She just ate it a little too fast.
08:23Huh?
08:23That was a no.
08:24And what was a no?
08:25That was a no.
08:26Oh, that was a no.
08:27And that was a no.
08:28Pitching it too hard.
08:29I was just being silly.
08:30Right, me too.
08:31I think when you were doing this beautiful funeral, I was like, whoa, would Quinn ever
08:35need closure on her husband?
08:37And I went, not this, no.
08:41Not where we're at right now.
08:43In like a decade maybe.
08:44Yeah.
08:45That would be helpful for her.
08:58We'll circle back.
08:59The cage.
08:59That's my least favorite tarot card.
09:01You guys ever get that one?
09:02The cage?
09:03The head in the cage?
09:04The head in the cage.
09:05No, it's this lady.
09:05The queen card?
09:06No, it's this lady that's tied up.
09:08And if you read the lore of the card, it's that the binds are loose.
09:12So she can leave at any moment.
09:14She just kind of is choosing to stay tied up.
09:16And it's like.
09:16Oh, what's the card?
09:17Someone look up the card.
09:18Somebody look up what that card is.
09:20I must know.
09:20Siri?
09:21I'm barefoot on the 110.
09:23I'm looking at it.
09:24What is it?
09:24He's looking at it.
09:26Come on.
09:26The Eight of Swords.
09:27Yeah.
09:28It's the Eight of Swords.
09:29Read it.
09:30I was still figuring it out.
09:32You're kind of like you have the power to go.
09:33On the Eight of Swords is a woman who is tied up and blindfolded.
09:37There are eight swords placed strategically around her in a way that restricts her movement
09:40as though she's in some kind of trap or jail.
09:42However, it seems as though whoever built the trap was a little lazy or hasty, leaving
09:45some open space where she could escape.
09:47But because of the blindfold preventing the woman from seeing she has no way of finding
09:50her way out of this trap, the barren land around her might signify a lack of creativity
09:54of some sort while the gray sky in the background can signify despair.
09:56Since there she feels that there is no hope of her breaking free from the kind of situation
09:59that she's bound to.
10:00If only she could take the blindfold off.
10:01She would say that she could simply just walk out of this situation.
10:04She can take it off.
10:04She can take it off.
10:06Okay, so everywhere by Michelle Branch can play during that entire scene.
10:10Yeah.
10:10So that's the Eight of Swords.
10:11That's the A-T-E of Swords.
10:13The A-T-E of Swords.
10:14The A-T-E of Swords.
10:14Oh no!
10:16A-R!
10:16A-R!
10:17We got some breaking news coming across the desk.
10:20That's Michelle Branch tearing across the Gladlands with the Gatling gun.
10:24You're thinking of Vanessa Carlton.
10:27You are.
10:28That's Vanessa Carlton.
10:29I've been doing the wrong song.
10:30Come on now.
10:31Wow.
10:31The whole time we were like singing.
10:34You mentioned that I was like, I think Zach might be thinking about the wrong singer-songwriter.
10:38This is turning inside out so I can see.
10:40We know that Michelle doesn't also play piano though.
10:43That's true.
10:43Michelle plays piano for sure.
10:45But is she zipping down the two?
10:46The point is the Vanessa Carlton piano is a wheeled vehicle.
10:50Yes.
10:50Yeah.
10:51That's the point.
10:52That's the point.
10:54Fuck.
10:54It's good to know what the point is.
10:56That's also your head in a cave.
10:57Yeah.
10:58This was the episode, this was the episode where we actually had, we confronted Breaker this
11:05episode.
11:06Remember that?
11:07Right.
11:07That's crazy.
11:07Shit.
11:08That was so long ago.
11:09Neons ago.
11:10He had a different life time.
11:12Yeah.
11:12But we had a really lovely, successful, it was a confrontation.
11:17Connor got there in time to save Tess.
11:20We got, save Tess.
11:23We got a Kokomo warmth check, oh my god, that healed our poor sweet bug boy.
11:29Shit was getting tense, dude.
11:31It was getting tense.
11:31We had to do something nice.
11:32Say it, man.
11:33It felt like we had to do something nice for our friend here.
11:35Yeah.
11:35And we heard your Beach Boys record.
11:37Oh!
11:38Yeah!
11:39And I ran so happy with it.
11:41Yeah, it was so cute.
11:42It was important.
11:42Aw!
11:43Real cute.
11:43It was important.
11:44Can I ask a question about the Beach Boys record?
11:46Yeah.
11:47Cause I know earlier you'd mentioned that it was, like, it was incomplete, that it was
11:51skipping.
11:52Is that still the case?
11:55Is it still an incomplete record?
11:56I have anti-skip.
11:58Quinn has anti-skip technology.
11:59I think has anti-skip technology.
12:00It's probably the only time he's heard-
12:02The whole song?
12:03Yeah.
12:03Cause I imagine in, like, my little story that I've never communicated or whatever,
12:07like, I do imagine he's probably heard clips, but it's like, what you're finding is probably
12:11a CD player with, you know, remember when your CD player, the last frame would blink
12:15for the battery?
12:17It'd be, like, four chunks, and, like, that's like-
12:19Oh, yeah.
12:19I feel like it was a lot of that, where it's like, you finally have the disc, and then
12:22you finally find something that could play it, or you have something that could play
12:25it, and then you finally find the disc, and you get, like, a blip.
12:27And then it's gone.
12:29And maybe that's happened to, you know, who knows how long he's wandering the desert
12:32before, like, Pappy finds him and he joins the caravan, you know?
12:36Pappy.
12:37Pappy.
12:38Sorry.
12:39There you are.
12:40Pappy.
12:41Pappy Parasone.
12:41Pappy.
12:43Pappy Parasone.
12:45Sorry.
12:46I'm dying.
12:48Well, and I know nobody asked, but I do feel like the fart thing-
12:51I'm a drag queen.
12:51Probably Kokomo has a couple different stomachs.
12:54Yeah.
12:54Right.
12:54There's probably just a fart chamber.
12:56Yeah.
12:56And nobody asked.
12:58Okay.
12:58That's how you go Super Saiyan.
12:59Are you sad?
13:00No one asked.
13:02Nobody asked.
13:03Was Kokomo hoping somebody was gonna be like, how are you farting on command?
13:06Yeah, baby, Kokomo wanted to be asked about his toots.
13:08At the top of next episode.
13:10There's a lot of serious stuff going on this episode.
13:12Okay, we'll check in.
13:13And nobody asked Kokomo about his toots.
13:16Toots.
13:16You could've asked.
13:17How woof.
13:18That's a good no.
13:18Woof.
13:19How woof.
13:20How woof.
13:22How woof.
13:22Like aloof?
13:23You were so good.
13:24You were so good.
13:25You were so good.
13:27What an incredible-
13:28You were so good.
13:30How woof.
13:31I don't wanna get off this point.
13:32No, no, no.
13:34You can see me talk more about how woof on my next LA in a minute TikTok video.
13:39But you were so good.
13:40You were making me sob and cry.
13:42How woof.
13:43I was a woof.
13:46I was a woof.
13:47I was a woof.
13:48That was really good.
13:50Really sweet.
13:51Whoa, yes.
13:51Also, the lore drop of the skull was Moony's skull.
13:57Moony's skull.
13:58What the heck?
13:59You said that at some point, huh?
14:00No, I knew that actually already.
14:02So when you knocked it down, I went, that's crazy.
14:04But I thought it was really good.
14:05I don't think it got mentioned until today.
14:08No, we knew that Moony was gone, but we knew that she had a skull.
14:10And there was like the crook of her arm, like where she was.
14:14That was, yeah, where she was.
14:15So she must have hidden it and she needed to like compulsively touch it.
14:18Well, it was just this thing that obviously whenever she's alone, she put the skull in the crook of her
14:23arm.
14:24Oh.
14:25Woof.
14:25And the idea of like.
14:27Fuck up.
14:27She woof.
14:28How woof, dude.
14:29How woof, dude.
14:30Oh, how woof.
14:31Yeah, man.
14:32It's really sad.
14:33But in a way it felt very, very.
14:36She woof.
14:37I don't know, we were talking about this a little bit before in the break, but it just,
14:41there's a, I feel like the thing that is true about Hoogie is a kind of, the mask on,
14:51there's an idea around flawlessness when the stakes are very high that feels like a part of the history heap.
14:57Even though the history heap's flawlessness, the history heap is the most, I think it's interesting that the history heap
15:02is the most charmless and Hoogie is the most charming.
15:06But the thing that connects them is the idea of flawlessness, of like the thing you're supposed to do, you're
15:10supposed to do with no rough edges.
15:13It's supposed to be done perfectly.
15:16And it's really funny because I remember being at a funeral for a loved one where, and everyone grieves in
15:24their own way, but someone was like, there was an exhortation from someone involved in the funeral to be like,
15:31don't miss this person because nothing bad happened.
15:36Right? A sort of insistence on like, and I think sometimes there's, there is a, I think people, in this
15:43case, it was a reference to a supernatural element of like, which I also understand.
15:49Like there's a beautiful poem that my professor, my foster professor passed away.
15:52It said like, I am the diamond's gift of snow. Like, do not stand at my grave and cry. I
15:57am not there. I did not die.
16:01And there's a, when you can be in that half of your mind, that's beautiful.
16:08But occasionally you have to walk over to the other half of your mind where you go, they're gone.
16:13And it is bad. And please don't tell me not to think that this is bad.
16:18Yeah, totally.
16:19Like it is a really funny thing where it's like, you go, you have these two modalities that are present
16:24in your brain and I think you need them both.
16:26And I think that was what I was trying to say as Aunt Freaky was like, oh, we don't really
16:30do well with contradictions.
16:32We don't really do well with paradoxes. We're trying to find the truth.
16:36And actually the only way this is going to work is when I walk over to the half of my
16:40mind that's like, they're everywhere.
16:42They're not gone. And then I walk over to the other half of my mind where it is, ah, they're
16:47gone. This fucking sucks.
16:50I think that opens up to, it's a very human thing where it's like grief, in my opinion, it's very
16:54lonely.
16:54But as soon as you're with somebody else, all of those doors are open.
16:59And it's like, you can find the place where you get to go, it sucks.
17:03Because then the person who's outside of it doesn't go, oh, I'm sorry.
17:06Or thanks for saying that. Or like, oh, I can't imagine.
17:09It's just like you actually get to be real and vulnerable and talk about the entire thing.
17:14And that's, I think, what got me was like, oh, these people are finally not alone in their grief.
17:20What a gift when you said, Vic, that Freaky had not been at the funeral.
17:24That was an incredible gift in that moment that was like, oh shit, that makes her make so much more
17:30sense.
17:34And yeah, I thought that was beautiful.
17:37Oh, thanks, yeah. I mean, it just, it is so interesting.
17:41Um, just in terms of, oh, I had something I was gonna say, and no, I really can't remember.
17:46I'm so sorry.
17:46No, it's okay.
17:48It's a little woof there.
17:50Yeah, I woofed it, kinda.
17:52And, uh, I, um, yeah, I don't know, maybe it'll come back.
17:57And was that helpful for you to remember?
17:59Yeah.
18:00That was great.
18:00That was great.
18:02That was great.
18:03That I loved.
18:04That was so sorry.
18:05It was gone before that.
18:06Jacob was saying, Jacob was talking about the idea of like being with someone in that moment where things suck.
18:11Oh, yeah, where it's this idea of also too, like, when you've got this greater grief,
18:15and you're sort of like around other people that are experiencing grief as a concept,
18:19and you can sort of, for me at least, like, look at sort of like the, oh, yeah, like this
18:24is hard,
18:25but we can also talk about kind of the beautiful sides of it.
18:27But then when you're dealing with somebody that's dealing with the exact same grief as you,
18:31and I feel like that is where you can access that part where it's like you can see the sides
18:36of it
18:36that maybe are like the messier, more unfinished edges of it, and it's easier to talk about the specifics.
18:43Whereas like the concept, and I think that that's very true for Hoogie, where like dealing with grief as a
18:48concept,
18:48it's like easier to access like the beauty and how it's a part of life.
18:54And I do think that this is, because I think something big I was thinking about with this character is
18:59like,
19:00it was a long time ago.
19:02Yeah.
19:02And so it's not something that's affecting their day to day.
19:05But it is, so it was like I think a very special thing for this person to be able to
19:10access that
19:11with somebody that also like understood intimately what that was like.
19:15Yeah, it's very, the, the, being able to share with someone in that moment.
19:22My, I have my friend Miranda, we go, who lost the same professor who was a very, very influential figure.
19:31We go and get pastries and we will, we text you.
19:33Sometimes I just get a text that just has a little croissant as a thing.
19:38Even just to be like thinking about Professor Davis today.
19:42You know, like it's, it's just a very lovely thing.
19:46And it's very like, it is that, that the contradictory part of that is so challenging.
19:54And I've been thinking.
19:55But a hard coffee to show up to.
19:57Yeah.
19:57You know?
19:58Totally.
19:58Yeah.
19:59And just being like the, the, but you, you do, like you need other people that get it.
20:06Yeah.
20:06You need other people around that get it.
20:07And you need other people that like share a memory of that person.
20:10Because you like, it was just that, that funeral was such a beautiful idea from Quinn.
20:17But I was so glad that the funeral also wasn't going well.
20:21Because actually what these people needed was to not nail it.
20:26Mm-hmm.
20:26You know what I mean?
20:27Like it's, I do think, there was something I almost, I forget what it was.
20:31It was, we moved past the opportunity for it to come up in the scene.
20:34But there was a part that I think is Hoogie's, even as different as the dice are, that is Hoogie's
20:41Achilles' heel and also Aunt Freaky's.
20:43And maybe also the history heaps written more largely, which is like you, oh God, Vic, when you said you're
20:49not going to know your way through these feelings.
20:52Whee!
20:53Yeah.
20:53That's the thesis right there.
20:55That's, that's the thesis right there, right?
20:57Because the, the thing is, um, symbols can quickly lose their meaning.
21:02And the history heap is a place all about symbols.
21:05And the, you know, to the point where like, I'm sorry stops meaning I'm sorry.
21:09You say it when you like open a door and someone's in the room that you weren't expecting.
21:13You're like, oh, I'm sorry.
21:14Like you have this thing where it's just like, it becomes the sound you make and it has stopped signifying
21:21what the deeper meaning is, which is I'm like, I have sorrow, right?
21:25Like I'm like, I regret that.
21:27Or like, I feel those feelings you feel.
21:29And it was so crazy to watch this thing where it's like, it's like, yeah, well, we had a funeral,
21:35death is a part of life, it's beautiful.
21:38And we say goodbye.
21:39And of course I miss my child, but, and it's like, yeah, but that is totally meaningless if it is
21:46disconnected from an actual experience of what that means, right?
21:50You can't just say the words.
21:53There's just two, both very different people, but also like very poised people.
21:57And to like, you see the messiness of that feels like what you're talking, like it's just the reality of
22:04it.
22:04Yeah. Like how do we short circuit control in that moment?
22:08Yeah.
22:08There's a toxicity to poise.
22:10It's the, it's the lions in the mask.
22:12Yeah.
22:13Cause I think the thing that I realized in that, in that especially is that like, I mean, Hoogie and
22:18Aunt Freaky are very, very similar.
22:21Hoogie's charm is just so much higher.
22:24The way that people interact with them is so much different than Aunt Freaky, I think.
22:29Yeah.
22:29But I do think that they have the same problem at the, at the heart of it.
22:34I was thinking about this cause this place is so high in, um, awareness.
22:40Yeah.
22:40And that's like such a word used in meditation.
22:42So I'm like, awareness is really important, but I think that the history heap, it's not just awareness, it's awareness
22:51and then an instant judgment.
22:53Yeah.
22:54This is good.
22:54This is bad.
22:55And then that's the whole thing that you're trying to break in meditation around awareness is like, just let awareness
23:00be, just let it rest there.
23:02And you don't have to have a take or like a guttural reaction to it.
23:06Yeah.
23:06But it's like the most judgmental place imaginable.
23:10Like being there, every single person was like, so stressed, so over a barrel.
23:14Yeah.
23:14And you're like, oh, you just feel constantly judged by everyone around you and your own self.
23:20Yes.
23:21So I was like, whoa.
23:22Uh, well, I also think too, the, the whole freaky thing, which in terms of her getting that little, so
23:28we've had like a boost to awareness for Poppy, not Herbie.
23:32We've had a boost to warmth for, uh, uh, for Hoogie here.
23:36And I think that like for freaky, having this little thing of like charm, I think when we were making
23:43this game system, I continually talked to people who for some reason had like an attitude around charm.
23:50Where they were like, well, that's the fake, like, I like all these more than I like charm.
23:55Charm is like, in other words, there's a thing where it's like, well, that's just surface level or something.
23:59And it's really funny for me as I, I felt almost felt like in some conversations I was having before
24:04the season got started.
24:05Not with anyone here, but with other people that I was talking to about or other, you know, what's that?
24:09No, I'm kidding.
24:10Name names.
24:11Name names.
24:11Of just being like charm is not fake.
24:16It's putting extra effort into making people feel good because you know that that little bit of extra, it's like
24:24making of getting someone a gift or like making a thing for them.
24:28Or it's like a charming house.
24:29Yeah.
24:29There's like handmade things.
24:31There's little like accents and stuff like that.
24:33Yeah.
24:34It's like a little effort, a little bit of effort.
24:35And I think there, there are relationships, especially like coming from New York.
24:38There are a lot of people who lionize a relationship where they're like, when you're close to people, you could
24:43treat them like shit.
24:45You know, like there's the luck is the love lets you, but you bust balls.
24:48You do this other thing.
24:49I even think about like improv.
24:51I remember being on an indie improv team where we loved each other so much that we went out and
24:55did a show and we just started doing stuff.
24:57Like we'd started doing tag outs, hitting each other in the face because it was like, that's how close you
25:02are to people.
25:02And we got off stage and went, you know, I sometimes am going in and like sitting in with other
25:09teams where I'm on my best behavior and I'm treating those people better than I'm treating people who legitimately I
25:16consider family to me.
25:18Because the walls have come down so hard.
25:20Yeah.
25:21And you go, maybe I could put a little more sauce on these tightest circle people and go a little
25:26farther to be like, oh, I'm not making you feel like how much I know I love you.
25:31But there's that thing that says like the people that you're closest to and the people that you make fun
25:35of are the people that like you embrace more and that the ability to kind of like jokingly be rude
25:41to people is like a way that you can connect deeper and like also secretly maybe talk about some issues
25:47that are going on and let out pressure valves and stuff like that.
25:50And there's like, there's like a little truth to that.
25:52I do think that playfully ribbing someone is a way, is something that when you are close to someone you
25:58can go, hey, here's actually feedback because we're living our lives together.
26:01Yeah.
26:02Right.
26:02And I'm doing it in a joyful way because I want you to know that our relationships not being threatened
26:06by this by this like critique or this moment of feedback I'm giving you.
26:11But there is definitely a really toxic place that it can get to where it's like, you know what I
26:15mean?
26:15Like I, we are constant fonts of negativity and gracelessness or like, I don't know, thinking about being in a
26:23long term relationship and being like, go get dressed up for date night.
26:27You know what I mean?
26:27Like something that you go like, put that little extra bit of effort in because yeah, the walls have come
26:33down and there's a lot of vulnerability and safety, but like efforts good too.
26:38That's nice.
26:39You know, like it's a good thing.
26:41I don't know.
26:41It felt, there was, there was, there was so many beautiful things to draw from.
26:46I love, God, that scene where, where Hoogie finally just says this sucks and I miss you and I wish
26:51you, why did you leave me?
26:52Beautiful.
26:53So beautiful.
26:54Oh my God, just watching tears stream down your face.
26:58I've gotten, I think that's the most I've cried on camera, which is very-
27:02I think so.
27:03I think so.
27:03Cause it's very funny.
27:04You had one fucking just-
27:06One just dropped.
27:084K zoom in.
27:104K zoom in.
27:11It's very-
27:12For the editors, 4K zoom in.
27:144K zoom in.
27:15It's very challenging because I don't get to spend a lot of time with any of my characters.
27:19I was caught completely off guard by how tapped into Aunt Freaky I got.
27:24Hmm.
27:25Very formal.
27:26Interesting.
27:26A very formal academic person trying to tap into-
27:30Who can't stop bringing up bird facts at the funeral?
27:36You said the quiet part out loud.
27:40It was beautiful to share that scene with you and with everybody here at the table.
27:43It's a real gift.
27:44I have a corvid brain.
27:45I love it.
27:46It's really, I love, I love stories and I love make believe and I love that it gets us to
27:49places that are really-
27:50It's so special to be surrounded by like responsible artists who are like, let it fucking go.
27:55Right at all.
27:55Patience is one of the hardest things I think to achieve in improv.
27:58Yeah.
27:59Like true patience.
27:59Well our defense mechanism is humor.
28:01Yeah.
28:01So it was all of us just sitting here being like, and I'm not gonna do the thing.
28:06And I'm not gonna relieve the pressure.
28:08There was a famous, there was, I think a set, there was a set that many, many years ago, it's
28:14somewhere UCB, of like a set where everyone was silent except for one person.
28:22And I remember someone being like, that person who was doing all the talking and I remember being like, it's
28:26the other seven.
28:27Everyone else made that decision.
28:29You know what I'm saying?
28:29Like you're talking about restraint and patience and stuff like that.
28:33Totally beautiful.
28:34And then we were listening to Michelle Branch everywhere.
28:37Yeah, which you were hearing of something totally different.
28:39You were hearing a different song.
28:41Yeah.
28:41Different song.
28:42And then we get this stuff, we get Uncle Puss's records and we go look for Parcel at the very
28:46end of the episode.
28:47Yes.
28:48Flashy facade.
28:49Oh my God.
28:50Did you know?
28:51Did you have an inkling?
28:52I had an inkling when you left and you were clutching something and I said, ooh, I've been there.
28:57But yeah, Auntie, that was the birth of Auntie as well.
29:00Wow.
29:00I was that person.
29:02Herbie was Parcel at that moment.
29:05That was the origin story of Herbie turning into Auntie.
29:09I knew it.
29:10Somebody had to do drugs.
29:11Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:12Somebody else had to do drugs.
29:13And it was Parcel.
29:14And it makes sense why Parcel would then join the caravan.
29:19The caravan.
29:20Oh yeah, you start as an ally.
29:21Do you know what I mean?
29:23Before you know it.
29:24Everyone starts as a staunch ally.
29:26And then you're like, I'm just here to protect all my friends and I'm just at all these marches.
29:30Yes.
29:31And I just think they deserve equal rights.
29:35And then the they suddenly turns into we.
29:37Suddenly becomes we.
29:39And then it's I.
29:41And then it's I.
29:41And then it's I.
29:42Me, me, me, me, me.
29:43And then you're gay.
29:44That's it.
29:44That's all that.
29:45Me, me, me, me.
29:46Well, it's been great because I've been thinking about that for a while.
29:49I was thinking about Parcel's connection for a minute of.
29:52And when we realized when I realized that Parcel was not really a foil as much as someone that had
29:56a deeper connection and respect for what Poppy was doing.
30:00And I felt like that moment of Parcel not defending.
30:04I was like that.
30:05In a lot of ways this season it's been like there have been negativities and betrayals.
30:09Aunt Freaky fucking screamed at Herbie.
30:12Breaker physically assaulting you.
30:14Like there's been scary.
30:16Justin Sheffield was off in Rock Club trying to sabotage the whole chili cook up.
30:19People have been doing very negative things.
30:22And it's just this is a season where we turn around a little bit.
30:25And that moment where Parcel's betrayal.
30:27I was like Parcel's betrayal.
30:28If we get if I get an opportunity Parcel's betrayal will be revealed to be a deeper thing that they're
30:33dealing with.
30:34And I think like you said, I think maybe we don't get to there if not for that moment where
30:38Herbie is like defends.
30:40Like Kokomo's defending you and you defend them.
30:43Yeah.
30:43Because I think you I think at that point you already knew.
30:46I knew it.
30:46Yeah.
30:46I said the last time I was like, yes, we like hurt people hurt people.
30:49You know what I mean?
30:50Like I understood what Parcel's whole thing was.
30:55It's about survival.
30:56It's about leaning into flowing with the current and not swimming upstream.
31:02You know, Poppy persona is like a salmon swims upstream.
31:07But when she goes back home, she is out.
31:09We watch her about face.
31:11Literally.
31:12Fly down the river.
31:13So she's, you know, Poppy is committing the same same crime as Parcel at that moment.
31:20Yeah.
31:20She gets it.
31:21Right.
31:21Herbie fully understands it because Herbie is also doing that too.
31:26Not standing up for Poppy.
31:28I fucking, I love that she was sick though.
31:31No.
31:31What'd you say?
31:32Hey, don't worry about it.
31:33Watch it.
31:33Don't.
31:33Fully loaded.
31:34After Herbie.
31:34After Herbie.
31:35After Herbie.
31:36After Herbie.
31:36After Herbie.
31:36After Herbie.
31:37After Herbie.
31:46Say it.
31:47You don't need to.
31:48They can watch it at home.
31:49But that's the thing, is when we come back, so we have whoever flashy facade.
31:52We were meeting her for the first time.
31:54We love.
31:55And when we come back, we have the history council.
32:00You know, we have this breakthrough with Hoogie and taking Mooney out on the road.
32:04Did you guys get that I invented karaoke again?
32:07Invented?
32:08I'm sorry, what?
32:09Oh, yes, yes, yes.
32:10I'm back watching it at home.
32:11With the distance, they all had writing on them and we could sing along.
32:14Maybe you could sing with a-
32:15You invented karaoke again.
32:17So that's what I was trying to do.
32:18That was your thing that you were doing.
32:20So that's what I wrote it down.
32:21I thought you were trying to get a moment where we all sing together, which I was like,
32:25that's awesome.
32:25Can I be so honest with you?
32:27I was so scared you were going to come back with a medal that you made for her.
32:30It was kind of that energy, that's why I gave it that.
32:33Scared?
32:34You were scared of that.
32:34Can we retcon that right now, actually?
32:37I was so afraid, based on, I don't know, how much my friends sort of like, punched me in the
32:43face over it the first time.
32:43Roasted you.
32:44You were meant to-
32:45Well, to be fair.
32:46To be fair.
32:47You were meant to fear that.
32:49It was a total ha-woof.
32:50It was a ha-woof in the story.
32:52It was a ha-woof in the story.
32:53It was good.
32:54I did that for you to feel fear on purpose.
32:56I wanted you to think I was coming back with that, but then I wanted to invent karaoke.
33:00I thought it was like hymnal.
33:02Yeah.
33:03Okay, well, it's karaoke.
33:05It's very important to me that karaoke is real in this world.
33:08It's karaoke.
33:08I agree.
33:09Karaoke is real.
33:11The quest to find the spear shaker, Ko, and apparently Uncle Pus and maybe two other siblings.
33:22Two of your four siblings.
33:23They're gonna be even tinier.
33:25Maybe, I don't know.
33:26There's a little flashback to the spoon on the table and your little brother breaker on his back.
33:33We're covering all that in just one ep?
33:36Come on.
33:36Who knows?
33:37Maybe the rains will come for all of you and we will not succeed in our quest.
33:44Tune in next week to find out whether the caravan and these dusty do-gooders can get it done.
33:50See you there.
33:51Woo!
33:51Awesome.
33:53Hey, don't forget to tune in to my next LA Minute.
33:55Oh, no.
33:56Don't forget.
33:57It's not gonna be on the Hollywood Rez.
33:58Oh, whoa.
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