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00:06incredible picture from the blimp all of these cards fighting to win the 500 the coach of the
00:12football redskins joe gibbs is here in the pit of dale jared he owns this race team coach in the
00:18super bowl you have input and control what you're feeling right now it's a little it's a little
00:23different for me here i i'm not hands-on at all i'm just cheering with everybody else here in
00:29the interstate pit you think about it i was a football coach i didn't have anything i didn't
00:35have a driver race shop and nothing let him get on the inside of you coming around this turn
00:39our very first race is the daytona 500 our super bowl he's gonna make it dale jared's gonna win
00:47the daytona 500 36 year old dale jared how many people get to participate in two super bowls
00:54there he goes he's won the super bowl of stock car racing joe gibbs
00:59it's a totally different world i was scared to death to do something else i'd only coach football
01:12back in those days that was the first time i ever heard about doug joe gibbs actually was the one
01:21scout white scout that went to do we see him doug williams the first quarterback selected in this
01:27year's draft tampa bay he had a great arm will throw on first time great deep passer and one of
01:34the
01:34absolute best to play quarterback in the nfl at the redskins i remember going to mr cook and saying
01:43we need to get doug this is what it's going to cost he goes what you know he said okay
01:49we're going to
01:50get this guy but it better make a difference and i said i got a feeling we're going to do
01:56something
01:57great here
02:24nearing game time now the old miss rebels race on to the feet of the
02:30when lsu and old miss played in baton rouge we weren't allowed on the street because everybody
02:36came through that they had rebel flags on their cars chancellor john d williams of old miss proudly
02:43waves the rebel banner we understood what what that cross on that flag stood for coming from zachary
02:51louisiana i lived 35 minutes from the grand dragon of the klu klux klan david duke david duke you were
03:02elected president of the united states tomorrow what would you do well i don't want to do anything to
03:07them i just don't want to do with them with i don't want to do anything with them either i
03:10just want a
03:11voluntary separation of the races
03:12people moving out people moving in because of the color you say you don't want to do anything with
03:19them but you want a voluntary what if they're what i want the government to get out of the business
03:23of
03:23trying to force races together force this integration and let these busing programs come
03:28through that causes little white children to suffer in these uh in these black schools
03:32i just understand you jesse bringing those black children in white schools anywhere where you know
03:36they're going to get all the white input those are not white schools those are public schools that
03:41white people attend one of the things that is unfortunate to me as more white people develop
03:47economic anxieties and economic insecurities their fears can be played upon by demagogues
03:52the threat to this country right now is the fact that we will end up so racially polarized
03:58until we will not be able to make the nation achieve the level of greatness that is capable of achieving
04:05one of the biggest issues in the 1970s was forced school busing using school buses to take children
04:14to a school that might be 30 miles away so that you can have a racial balance that is more
04:20equal
04:20they will not and they cannot and they shall not bus my child in any ways manner shape form or
04:28fashion
04:29for the simple reason to achieve racial balance in any school system in this country and when they
04:34integrated in 1970 they took my brother away from cheneyville and put him at central high school
04:40with predominantly white school and every friday night or early saturday morning there will always
04:46be a cross burning in california nothing has created more bitterness for example than forced busing to
04:53achieve racial balance it has increased the bitterness and animosity it was supposed to reduce
04:58well i'm the expert what tv can do to a candidate too but that ronnie reagan wow
05:04reagan was the avatar of white backlash when was reagan elected governor of california 1966
05:13the big white backlash election against civil rights and against lyndon johnson's great society
05:20nixon and reagan were saying you know we're all for civil rights but what did the two guys say to
05:25each other on the telephone during nixon's presidency it sounds worse than george wallace
05:45ronald reagan did it better because reagan was a more appealing figure than nixon he knew how to use
05:52language to telegraph to people that he was angry about the expansion of civil rights and you could
05:58depend on him to try to stop that movement reagan was a natural because he did not feel uncomfortable
06:05around cameras directors people noise on the set but he would say where are my marks where's my key
06:12light what's the backlight he'd been through it all you know he worked best with speechwriters but he
06:17would also write a lot of his own material i think the answer to curing inflation is a balanced budget
06:24don't spend more than you take in right it's like protecting your virtue you have to learn to say no
06:46the largest crowd ever to see a sports event in the new orleans superdome 76 188 was on hand yesterday
06:52for the bayou classic between the jaguars of southern university and the tigers of grambling
06:57the legendary eddie robinson is in his 35th season as the head coach at grambling the winningest coach
07:04with the total the american dream is hard work let me just tell you about this i believe i'm a
07:11football
07:11coach and uh you know i'm really concerned about the nfl i want the guys who play for us to
07:18play in
07:19the nfl we're gonna study and prepare these guys to go and play nobody is more american than coach eddie
07:28robinson coach rob bleed in america he always say hell if anything can happen it can happen in america
07:35and that's how he looked at it let's not let the game get away and say what could have happened
07:42when
07:42doug williams is growing up he roots for grambling because he knows shack harris is the quarterback
07:48there years later doug williams goes to grambling so he can be the next james harris picking up the
07:57unfinished work that shack harris began and was not permitted to complete doug williams is the
08:05beneficiary of the work that shack harris and eddie robinson put in a decade earlier in terms of
08:11changing the offense and promoting him through pr was fully realized for doug williams college j
08:20nicholson during the summer he called me and said we're gonna put you up for the heisman trophy
08:24and i started laughing i said the heisman trophy he said yeah i said okay good put me up
08:31heisman's about hype eddie understands that preparation to get there and so if you're
08:37reading doug williams in 1977 you think he's the greatest college player ever because there's so much
08:42articles about him coming in this is the blueprint williams does a bit of scrambling world-class
08:49sprinter robert woods goes deep jack we couldn't see that much black college football back then
08:53but you saw grambling you could see grambling you could at least see clips williams throwing for his
08:58favorite receiver tight end mike boar did you see i couldn't wait i want to see it it's the 21st
09:04touchdown
09:05pass of the season the 76th of williams career this was my way of reaching america to tell you that
09:14we were in louisiana and the kind of football that we played and doug is throwing for 200 and 300
09:23yards
09:23and leading grambling to victory he's got it into the end zone for the score his greatest feat is
09:29convincing coach robson to let him throw that much if you can convince coach robson to let you throw that
09:36much you're a bad man doug williams the quarterback of grambling continues to add to his astounding
09:43total of touchdown passes his career now 84. you see that eddie robinson is trying to glean into
09:50all his professional football contacts promoting him and hyping up doug williams they're just letting
09:57doug williams throw the ball all over the field trying to break all kinds of records and he almost
10:03breaks the single season touchdown record the record's 39 he wants up with 38 but all the other
10:08major college records they're his by this point doug williams is a finalist for the heisman from
10:14grab the state university right eddie robinson and collie j nicholson they made this thing happen
10:21they go to tokyo they play temple in tokyo
10:27oh my god man tokyo i'm just walking the street and we probably had about 50 guys from japan out
10:35there
10:35with cameras taking pictures during practice i was seeing that many cameras snapping pictures
10:41and the thing about that they was having the heisman trophy dinner in new york at the same time
10:48if it wasn't for the heisman trophy a lot of great players might never have gotten the
10:52acknowledgement and recognition they really deserved it sure didn't hurt this man's career it sure
10:58didn't love it culture and college a nickels they thought i was going to be invited to the dinner
11:02they had prepared for me to fly to tokyo from new york but it never came it goes to earl
11:08campbell of
11:09the university of texas
11:14turn away crowd of over 50 000 jammed cora kuan stadium to view the american spectacle known as major
11:22college football we played temple
11:27they were leading us like 32 to 28 with three minutes and 15 seconds left on the clock
11:34and we went 85 yards and we ended up beating temple 35 32.
11:40so after the game coach robertson had a game ball and he mean with tears in his eyes he said
11:46guys he
11:46say i don't care what anybody say he said the heisman trophy winner is in this room
11:51and he gave me the football earl campbell wanted that year but but to me i won
11:58at a hall hbcu small college and you finish fourth in the heisman yeah stuff like that you remember
12:07that for the rest of your life coach what would it take for doug williams to make it in the
12:11national
12:11football league an opportunity to play
12:24doug williams ground state university quarterback yeah with more than 90 career touchdown passes doug
12:30has hit more tight ends than a playtex girdle he is not a regional star he is a national star
12:37that ability for them to showcase doug williams heading into that 1978 draft is so extremely valuable
12:45sports illustrated was writing pieces in the new york times and everybody found their way to louisiana to go
12:50talk to coach rob about doug we have a great area growing area over two million fans and it's the
12:56fastest growing area in the united states don't you agree 100 when tampa bay is looking to build a
13:06franchise they are a part of a cohort of professional teams moving to the south all these southern
13:14franchises have to deal with and recognize race relations as part of their politics their sports
13:22politics when we got to tampa you know tampa was still a little more of the south than we probably
13:28thought and that was a little unsettling tampa i always say that any deeper out of tampa you're in
13:37golf so that's deep south you go i had gone to tampa to coach in tampa with john mckay who
13:46was the head
13:46coach we were getting ready for the draft you're gonna hustle it's all right you had to catch his
13:52mid you to cut it john mckay said hey there's this young quarterback at rambling i want you to go
14:00over
14:00there and find out everything about him he was student teaching i would go and sit in the back
14:07of the classroom and then i would put him on the board and we would talk football doug williams was
14:14an athlete in a class all by himself and no one scouting them i spent three days with doug and
14:22i
14:23went back to talk to coach mckay and i can tell you this this guy's football smart i remember i
14:30worked
14:30that draft and it was clear that they were targeting doug tampa had the number one pick in the draft
14:38they traded it to houston for pick number 17. they knew a black quarterback was not going to go number
14:46one in 1978 and they figured that i would still be there the whole discussion was can we trade down
14:55how far can we go they became very confident they could go pretty far down in the first round and
15:00still get doug welcome back coach thank you thank you very much glad to be back i think it was
15:05coach mckay
15:06having enough courage and guts but it was a gut decision and he thought hey this is the best guy
15:13for us to pick we wrote the card we sent the card in there is a you know famous guy
15:20in football
15:20lore of draft nicks before mel kiper called joel bushbaum and joel he said you know you realize
15:28what a big moment this is right tampa bay buccaneers first round selection having acquired the choice in
15:35trade from houston quarterback doug williams of grambling doug williams became the first black
15:42college quarterback to be picked on the first round of the college football draft this week
15:46that's what they did they got me at number 17. one of the things that's important for doug williams is
15:53that you know tampa bay was one of the worst teams in nfl history john mckay had a very good
16:07sense of
16:07humor they lost their first 26 games before they ever won a game and at some point one of the
16:14reporters
16:14said what do you think about your team's execution and he said i'm in favor of it
16:19inside the 30 he fumbles the ball tampa bay is having a long couple years aren't they
16:26doug williams wasn't ticketed for nfl stardom coming out of grambling he had to prove himself
16:33the season started off at home against the division rival detroit lions
16:40that first year his rookie year we took off and he started which also was coach mckay having the
16:48courage enough to do that doug has given our team the confidence that if we will hold it close doug
16:55can win this thing for us you're getting a chance to live out your dreams but at the same time
17:01we also
17:02knew there was a lot of pressure he knows he's still in the south even though he grew up there
17:09and didn't know any other way of living other than being in the south and tampa bay is not necessarily
17:14rural louisiana but doug had to put up with all that same crap all that same garbage he had to
17:20put up
17:20with it i'll tell you i try not to let it pressure me you know but i i believe it
17:25bothers the press and
17:27other people more than it does me you know because i go out every day just thinking i want to
17:31play
17:31like i'm in other quarterbacks once a black person achieves status as a quarterback or any similar
17:39job the margins wind up being paper thin because at every turn everybody's looking around and saying
17:45to themselves well we could just get a white person to do this you could feel it in the stadium
17:51you could
17:51feel it on tuesday at the at the public supermarket i mean you could feel it if you look at
17:57some of the
17:57highlight films in tampa you'll see as a lady in the stands got a little black dog hanging by the
18:03rope
18:04dangling in the stands in tampa he was held to a different standard there's no question about that
18:10they gave it to him i'll never give him enough credit for how he handled it when you're going through
18:17that
18:18there's a lot of pressure but then he got his jaw broke in an obvious passing situation isaiah's coming
18:27on a blitz williams gets it away williams is down and he's hurt to look at the play which sent
18:32williams
18:33to the bench boy does he when doug got his jaw broken i said no no no this can't happen
18:38they need
18:39him they need him they need him strong you can imagine a rookie quarterback he gets his jaw broke
18:47and to get back up from that and he said i'm playing and what they actually did was wire his
18:54jaw shut
18:55on a third down way up to time oh they almost took his head off he's calling plays like split
19:01right 60
19:01you know what i mean to go through that that doug i gotta tell you he is one tough dude
19:07he was a
19:09very mentally tough guy he went through a lot of trials in his life and every time i think he
19:15came
19:15out of it the way he came out of it because of how tough he was in chicago illinois the
19:25tampa bay
19:26buccaneers and the chicago bears at soldier field in chicago tampa bay going into the game unbeaten
19:36in the game when i talked to doug one of his greatest memories happened in 1979 when they
19:42were playing the chicago bears and the starting quarterback for the chicago bears was vince evans
19:48you're looking at vince evans the chicago bears quarterback a third-year man from usc
19:53that game marked the first time in the league's history that the starting quarterbacks for both teams
19:59happened to be black it was a significant moment in the history of the nfl in the history of the
20:07african-american quarterback vince was just a tall good-looking charismatic guy played a southern cow
20:16vince evans grows up in jim crow greensboro he grows up in the heart of the civil rights movement his
20:22parents are educators and they prepare him for the day when integration comes growing up in greensboro
20:29during the 1960s was a very uh tumultuous time integration segregation were things that we were
20:39dealing with my parents would let us know what was going on they would you know get out and protest
20:46their parents were maybe a generation or so away from slavery they were my leaders they were my
20:53they were my inspiration the internal fortitude and strength uh man
21:04i can see my mother now just the times that she was on her knees man praying for her boys
21:11that they wouldn't be you know get in trouble or anything like that not all going out on the
21:21pass pattern along with farmer and out in the flat oh another system and it's touchdown so in 1967
21:27i was watching usc playing ucla for a berth to go to the rosewood it was something about the enthusiasm
21:36of the crowd and this beautiful arabian white horse galloping around the coliseum floor
21:43my dad was in the room with me and i told him i said that's the school i'm going to
21:50someday
21:51and he looked at me like you're looking at me saying boy you done lost your mind
21:58the head coach there was john mckay great stars here get one thing over the other players more
22:04publicity and that's all they get and of course they also get the the big bonus when they got
22:08going professional football there's where the pot of the gold is john mckay had jimmy jones and so he
22:15was familiar with the african-american quarterback and he was comfortable with it quarterback jimmy jones
22:21hits right back yes jimmy jones at usc first black quarterback on the cover of sports illustrated but he
22:28starts vince evans in 75 very few coaches have this history with black quarterbacks some black writers
22:35consider him the branch ricky of black quarterbacks because he gives them a chance but he would say
22:41let's remember jimmy jones did the work doug williams did the work i didn't do the work i just gave
22:47them
22:47the opportunity they were supposed to get the usc backfield vince evans quarterback when i got my
22:53opportunity to play we were like eight and four and by sc standards that was considered a losing
22:58season that's when i started to feel uh you know the racial undertone started to kick in
23:071975 there's bumper stickers that say save usc football shoot vince evans
23:12we were eight and four and i got this you know these pieces of hate mail and but there was
23:17one in
23:18particular that i hadn't seen before and it was sort of a cryptid letter the letters were cryptid
23:24saying nigga if you go out there today we're going to blow your brains out
23:34because i grew up in an environment like this back in the south you know i'm not going to be
23:40intimidated by this and i want to go play it was those kinds of just day-to-day
23:48stresses there was a there was a weightiness to it uh for me and i'm sure for other athletes of
23:56color
23:58they just weren't uh accepted based on their talent and the ability to get the job done along
24:06i think he's got to be the top player today got drafted in the sixth round it was a very
24:11exciting time
24:29you know two two brothers started for the for the nfl on that day
24:38remember doug telling me he thought it was a miracle because he thought he would never see it
24:42there goes we just wanted to go out and be the best that we could be to the great one
24:48wall of
24:49payton number 34 and look at him leap in touchdown but the fact that we were able to
24:56be at that position to where we were both starters
24:59i feel like you know we were standing on other people's shoulders whether it was you know james harris
25:08you know watching the things that he did as a quarterback watching jefferson street joe
25:15gilliam and the professionalism that these guys exuded for us it was a special moment
25:21uh just because of the history of the game the history of the nfl and the history of the the
25:27lack
25:28of african-american quarterbacks prior to that time happened the tampa bay buccaneers have won at 17
25:35to 13 to go 5-0 as mckay hustles up i think that was a pointed moment for the national
25:40football league
25:41you know i call vince to this day and we both share that feeling because we understand what happened
25:47nfl probably hadn't put as much light on it they don't talk about a lot of stuff but that was
25:53a great
25:53moment for the both of us coach stramp bucks are 5-0 how good are they well i think they're
26:01a very
26:02good football team irv i think they've earned the right to be regarded as a good football team the way
26:06they played this early in the season and they're improving tremendously in offense coach mckay he used
26:12to tell the team keep it close and dougie'll find a way to win it that's where the leadership come
26:17in
26:17as the year went on we found a way to win
26:22tampa bay against the giants how about those buccaneers it's the first time they've ever been
26:26favored on the road in the history of the franchise when did you get all that stuff you're pretty good
26:31i follow football pretty good all right they will win today tampa bay wins it great comeback by the
26:37young expansion team we had to win one game to go to playoff just one game
26:43and we came back and played the kansas city chief at home looks like your hometown niagara falls new
26:48york and it was a monsoon it was raining in tampa water was coming down the stadium we ended up
26:54kicking the field goal the kick is up it is good what a splendid finish john mckay and his
27:02buccaneers and gentlemen who picked this to be last people looked at you in a whole different
27:09life they're respected to one of the greatest day in tampa bay history
27:19jane we've got just a few moments now before kickoff who do you like in this game well you
27:23know everybody said that the defense is what got tampa bay here but the offense has vastly improved
27:27and 77 so when brent asked me who do you think is going to win everybody picked philadelphia
27:34all the way all the way there you go he's in there and what an 80-yard drive by the
27:40tampa bay
27:41buckler williams in a deep drop the way they're playing they look like super bowl champs that's
27:47bell and he's over charlie smith takes it for the score and mckay should be mad
27:53and it is good
28:06he went through hell in trying to become a great quarterback and he did it i didn't think there was
28:14a way in the world the buccaneers could win this game the architect is john mckay let's go back down
28:20to her doug thanks very much i'm glad to i want to tell you something jane kennedy tell me to
28:24say
28:24hello okay tell us to be hi she's the only one who thought tampa bay could win this game so
28:29we were
28:30on our way to the airport brent her cross and i almost at the gates i hear this voice calling
28:36he's going jane jane jane and he doug williams is running through the airport and he came up to me
28:42and
28:42he says i just want you to know thank you thank you for believing in us and brent is like
28:53he said but thank you for believing in us and what i took away from that was the angst of
29:00so many
29:00black athletes that just don't get somebody to believe in what they know they can achieve
29:08and one single person can make somebody say i can do this
29:23ronald reagan gets nominated in 1980 in the joe lewis arena perfect example of using imagery to deflect
29:33people's attention from what they really wanted to do now he's setting up that government is not the
29:41solution government is the problem for those who've abandoned hope we'll restore hope and we'll welcome
29:49them into a great national crusade to make america great again you can look at a slogan that the reagan
29:56campaign used a lot and what does it say that's not a trump slogan that's a reagan slogan that trump
30:03borrowed so after being nominated reagan then opens his fall campaign where in philadelphia mississippi
30:12this is backwoods mississippi silent and suspicious oh i believe it's a big publicity hoax but if they're
30:19i feel like they asked for it they found a three body i declines to say how the three men
30:27were killed
30:27not so much who killed those young men but what killed them those who have allowed a system of
30:35segregation to thrive and grow and develop participated in that act what kind of a message are you sending if
30:44you open your full national presidential campaign in the scene of one of the greatest terrorist atrocities
30:52in american history he is building off of nixon's southern strategy reagan understands that in order to win
31:02the presidency he has to lean into the explicitly racist white south here's how i would approach that
31:10you as a as a statistician or a political science or no as a psychologist which i'm not is is
31:17how abstract
31:18you handle the race thing in other words you start out yeah now y'all are quoting me yes all
31:25right
31:26you start out in 1954 by saying nigger nigger nigger by 1968 you can't say nigger that hurts your
31:33backfire so you say stuff like uh forced pussing states rights and all that stuff and you're getting
31:40so abstract now you're talking about cutting taxes and all of these things you're talking about are
31:46totally economic things and the byproduct of the mayors blacks get hurt worse than white
31:51and that strategy which was diabolical was successful enough to attract white angry southern voters of
32:03southern white states where there were not enough black voters to make a big difference to vote for
32:08ronald reagan instead black folk are not confused by ronald reagan black folk were like no we see
32:15you for who you are you're launching in philadelphia mississippi you're appealing to white voters you're
32:20cutting social services like we get what you're doing we're going to go back prior to 64 the civil
32:27rights act when it comes to black folks it's like get in the back of the line so it shouldn't
32:32be
32:32surprising to people that here we are in the late 1970s that doug williams is getting way less than his
32:42white counterparts at quarterback those two things are not uh mutually exclusive ron is a vice president
32:49of operation he was head of the oakland raiders uh personnel from the beginning his first rookie
32:57contract culverhouse tries to take advantage of him i held out for a whole week you know it was one
33:03of
33:03those situations where they they just they won't break my last year i made 120 thousand dollars and i was
33:10the 54th highest paid quarterback in the league as a starter i wasn't asking for top dollars but i was
33:21asking for to be paid comfort what i thought i should have been paid here you got this guy taking
33:27this nothing expansion team that at one point lost every one of his games to the nfc championship game
33:36within like three years i mean that's not hurdle for anybody a black quarterback and the way he was
33:43treated afterwards by management by ownership by fans it was just just it was terrible
33:53it wasn't going to be what i thought it should have been and we're going to be fair
33:56why signing we was asking for six hundred thousand dollars he has this mark of what he wants
34:04he's in the six hundred thousand dollar range and they offer 400. now that may seem like a lot of
34:11money
34:12but rookie john elway just signed for a million a year dan fouts just signed for a million a year
34:18doug williams is saying i'm a bargain right this guy is not even proving himself john elway and
34:24you're giving him that much doug williams should have been a franchise quarterback i guess hugh
34:28culverhouse didn't think so i thought mr c had a hard time paying a black guy that kind of money
34:37to me
34:38that's probably what it was didn't want to pay the black quarterback what happens in negotiations that
34:43go bad they become personal and that one it clearly became personal between ownership
34:48and doug and his representatives it never should have come down that way well 83 wasn't certainly
34:53wasn't about a year for myself i had a daughter who was born on the 14th of january three months
34:59later
34:59uh my wife passed the contract negotiating came at a terrible time because my wife died that april we
35:09met at groundland and um man it was tough loss of a loved one is something that affects all of
35:18us
35:18certainly i've had that in my life and so it's a heartbreak and it's sometimes it's really tough to
35:27come back from that contract wasn't as important as you might have thought it would have been
35:32done but at the same time i still had to negotiate it i went sat in his office this is
35:39general manager
35:39he said since you hadn't been here we came up with 350 000 they cut me 50. doug walks when
35:48doug left
35:49it was understandable the negotiation was i don't say it was shameful but it should have never happened
35:55my dad never recovered from it and nor did the franchise he leaves in 82 we go to the playoffs
36:01in 82
36:02the next time we go to the playoffs is 97. i came to the conclusion that football wasn't important
36:09it wasn't i went home doing substitute teaching at northwestern middle school my brother was the
36:15principal so i went there every day and went to the classroom every day if doug williams were a white
36:20quarterback in his rookie year in the nfl he would have been valued far greater they sacrificed you know
36:27they really did and no matter what they did it wasn't good enough my agent jimmy walsh called me
36:34he said i've been talking to the tatham they're going to start a team in in oklahoma they want to
36:39talk to you i went to oklahoma met with him and his son who was going to run the team
36:43and the way they
36:45treated me was nothing like i had been treated you know they never sat down with the owner of tampa
36:51you know not to have a drink of water less no dinner the oklahoma outlaws the united states
36:56football league today signed tampa bay quarterback doug williams to a multi-year contract doug williams
37:02wasn't asking for anything that he didn't deserve or that he had not earned and so when he left to
37:08go to the usfl that was about principle as well as money you got a lot of excitement playing in
37:15the
37:15usfl they had the talent there it was a matter of building if they had to win the court or
37:20whatever
37:20ain't no telling what might happen the nfl is one of the great monopolies in this country they've got
37:26the networks they've got the stadiums they've got everything that they have to have so we're going to
37:31be around for a long time fellas and we're going to win our antitrust case and good luck to everybody
37:36thank you very much i hope the hotel's taking good care thank you very much
37:43i was asked by a group of children what to do if they were offered drugs and i answered just
37:50say no
37:51by the time we hit the mid-1980s a lot of black folk were saying hey these opportunities that are
37:58opening up is actually worse than anything i could have possibly imagined social safety net
38:04is being ripped out from under them as we're seeing this loss of jobs and the economic recession
38:10we see the massive decay of the urban infrastructure where black folk are confined and so when we think
38:17about doug williams is right it really begins in grambling and then he winds up in washington
38:24during the reagan years the united states football league may have told its own bell barring a miracle
38:34the usfl may have become history today i didn't have any emotion it folded nowhere to go phone ring who
38:44is
38:45it joe gibbs we say douglas you know there's only three people in america ever called me douglas that was
38:52my mom my brother and joe gibbs as offensive coordinator for the charges gibbs helped construct
39:01the most powerful offense in nfl history i'm following him at that point i was always conscious of where he
39:09was and what he was doing when the usfl was starting to uh implode i said to myself that doug
39:18would be
39:19a perfect guy with the redskins and i've always felt like one of the most important positions on your
39:26football team if you have a good team is the backup quarterback it's very rare at that time for for
39:33a
39:33white coach to like just consistently you know have your back and so doug in many ways is lucky
39:40to have something like a john mckay and joe gibbs in his nfl career watching them play
39:47it's a process you know it's one of those things in life i think we have a feeling about something
39:54he's gonna do something great for us i think it's just like coming in in the middle of a book
39:59or
39:59something you know you can't pick it all up i think joe gibbs brought doug sort of back from
40:05extinction doug was gone and you can say well did it take her how can it take courage well it
40:10did
40:11i mean they did that for a franchise called the redskins back then like in the 50s and early 60s
40:18they were the nfl team of the south and they played to that an all-white team and their band
40:25would
40:25play dixie at halftime fight for old dixie fight for the old south i think the old south
40:31went to doug williams or anybody who looked like him it didn't doug walked into that i would like
40:38to get a chance to play you know it's hard to believe that uh there's no team out there that
40:42could use a doug williams as a starter but i here practice you know my thing to do what it's
40:47asking me
40:47to do and do the best i possibly can a lot of folks around the country who not only think
40:52the
40:52redskins will get in the playoffs but might supplant the giants as the division champion
40:58schrader being chased now and throws it away in 87 we had a really good football team doug came on
41:05board i thought he would be the backup to schrader jay was playing at different times
41:13i just kind of felt like we just can't do this there was controversy all week get heard about players
41:19on the sidelines asking why joe gibbs didn't replace schrader jay schrader it was all about
41:24him doug williams has come on in place of jay schrader 12 000 yards for his career most of which
41:29was
41:30make me successful that's not the way coach gibbs liked the team to play
41:41we had no problem backing doug he's got it touchdown i mean he he was as humble as probably
41:49he was as a rookie down in tampa so schrader will not see action again today this became over a
41:56period
41:56of time kind of felt like at this point in the season and where we were doug should should be
42:02the
42:02starter and doug williams is the new washington quarterback took me by surprise took everybody
42:07by surprise it kind of renewed our energy when he came in there he started playing he showed up
42:17off we go into the playoffs and as they say the rest is history
42:24today these fans will cheer and hope that their beloved bears
42:29can beat washington and then take on the minnesota vikings next week
42:34joe gibbs has turned it over to doug williams today
42:39once again he's got video touchdown
42:53i'm going to give the credit to that washington coaching staff he's the man who said it'll be doug
43:00williams he said it early and williams came in here and played brilliantly doug he just he caught a
43:06moment he was really good i found myself rooting for him so hard he's a guy that i could identify
43:13with he was a black quarterback he was big and strong and he finally got to the situation and the
43:19opportunity to win it all
43:23and that's all we ever wanted was just give me opportunity give me the same opportunity and let me
43:29show you and if it doesn't work out and it's all good but let me have the opportunity
43:34it is the nfc championship game between the minnesota vikings and the washington redskins
43:39for the rights to go to the super bowl in san diego in two weeks i am standing on the
43:45sideline
43:45this is a playoff game and doug is standing next to me you know man i am so uptight i'm
43:52i'm about ready to throw up you know what i mean so doug was waiting there with me and i
43:58remember i turned around to call the first play and i swear to you he went just like this
44:05i mean a big yawn and i went what the heck is my life is passing before my eyes
44:13this man is yawning he's getting ready to go in the game he was relaxed that guy could see things
44:22down and break touchdown
44:28as we go lewis touchdown they're right back in it william
44:36touchdown
44:39richkins leading by a touchdown fourth down and four
44:44down on both knees so he can say a prayer one down to the super bowl
44:51wade wilson threw a pass to darren nelson at the goal line and darren green knocked it out
44:58that particular time i realized we was going to the super bowl
45:02doc i think you showed all of us what you can do in the fourth quarter when a championship hangs
45:06in the
45:06balance congratulations thank you brad it's been a tough career for me and i just like to say hello to
45:12everybody in zach louisiana my little girl and a lot of people down in tampa and just for all the
45:18guys that i played with down in tampa and a lot of other places brad this this is not just
45:21for me
45:22it's for a lot of people i didn't think about the game i just thought about the idea that we
45:26was going
45:26that win gave us an opportunity to go to the super bowl
45:33i thought he was going to give me the heisman trophy he's just giving me a jersey
45:38the tradition of winning sports teams coming to the white house meeting the president any politician
45:46wants to pal around with people who are popular heroes reagan and his people knew there were so
45:53many brilliant accomplished black athletes that to get them being photographed with the president
45:59would be one way of taking the edge off of a lot of reagan's policies that were
46:05in many ways against the interests of black people in america
46:10how are you and the team handling the media i think i think we're i think we're enjoying it
46:17i can't go in super bowl playing against denver um cleveland and say i'm black i'm doing this for
46:23black america i'm doing it for the watch and rescue and myself and then we all can enjoy it
46:29the whole time that season and everything was taking place we just all thought of doug as a
46:36quarterback we didn't think about him being a black quarterback you know what i mean he's our
46:42quarterback you do feel kind of like a pioneer no i'm not a pioneer whatsoever when we got to san
46:48diego it became a huge deal doug williams will be asked an even more interesting and very valid
46:53question but again he'll be asked it so many times that he'll grow weary of it what does it mean
46:58to be the first black quarterback to start in a super bowl by being black and being the quarterback
47:04just so happen that's that's the way it is you know we have to deal with it from that standpoint
47:07we're here to win a football game and doug williams being black quarterback is not going to win it
47:12we're watching redskins if anybody we're going to win it together either we're going to lose it together
47:17it was a circus the first day of the media on monday it's almost like they'd never seen a black
47:23male before did someone really ask doug williams have you been a black quarterback all your life
47:29yes that's true i heard about that wait ted those are your colleagues those black quarterbacks those
47:36early pioneers whether it's briscoe harris gillam doug williams that's the struggle that they have
47:44throughout their careers with the media is that they always have to talk about race and then on
47:51top of that they understand what they mean to the black community number one redskins dougie's press
47:58on this campus of howard university seven eight thousand students everybody cowboys fans whomever
48:05were cheering for doug kickoff moments away for super bowl 22 from san diego
48:13the other thing about doug williams he's very conscious of history of his history he understood
48:19that he was in a jackie romerson moment and the two teams about ready to take the field
48:25and the redskins the national football conference champions are coming out onto the football field
48:37you couldn't go in there without thinking about shaq harris
48:42joe gilliams uh john walton jimmy ray sandy stevens all them boys came to mind
48:49because that's that's that's that's the shoulders that you was on i was on their shoulders i wasn't on mine
48:54i was on there i'm thinking about from from which i come zachary louisiana from cheneyville
49:04to grambling and tampon the usfl and where i am now from grambling quarterback number 17 doug williams
49:14then all of a sudden you're out onto the football field your team once again
49:18and you know you're ready to play joe gibbs there's still some cotton in the mouth and
49:23there's some butterflies in the stomach but you know with the first contact that will disappear
49:32out of the shotgun which is their basic formation and elway going for the bomb right at the outset
49:38throws caught by nateel touchdown oh my goodness gracious john elway was it he was a man this is
49:46steve sewell who's gonna throw he throws back to elway the other way inside the 20. john elway was
49:53supposed to just wipe the washington redskins and doug williams off the face of the earth
50:00we go down in the first quarter to denver and i'm saying it myself on the sideline we're down
50:0710-nothing i said we're gonna get killed i said this is awful
50:14and our team was totally frustrated i remember guys coming off the field yelling and screaming and
50:20upset you know about the fact that we just felt like we weren't playing the way we should play
50:26to the 35 he goes and on first and 10. slipping down is williams and he gets sacked at the
50:3124 yard
50:32line he might be hurt did you see him twist his leg when he went down and the injury looked
50:37like
50:37something that you ain't coming back from in that game down and jay schrader's going to come in so here
50:42comes schrader the timeout is called and williams is back down on the turf i went down with my knee
50:48i put my hand out i told him don't touch me i say because if the good lord let me
50:53get up i'm gonna
50:54finish this game i was glued to the tv watching it and all i'm thinking myself is not now not
51:01now
51:03that's going to hurt the next one who's coming behind him in terms of the opportunity to play that
51:09position that game is a crusade it's not a game it's not a football game it's a crusade
51:19it kind of reminds me of the old negro spiritual i shall not be moved like a tree planted by
51:26the
51:26water no matter what's going on around me i shall not be moved that's a doug williams right there
51:33coach gibbs came back to me he said douglas you ready i said yeah coach he said well let's get
51:39this
51:39sock of the road so we start that second quarter down and i remember i called charlie ten hitch just
51:52five yard hitches on the outside and i saw doug and you know just they pressed and i said well
52:01i know i know
52:02he's always going to try whether you hit it or not you don't know the crowd was so loud i
52:08couldn't
52:08hear the crowd i could just like read his lips where he was saying and washington now at the 20
52:14yard line
52:14their first possession of the second period and so bill got the charlie ten charlie ten then i took
52:21off and y'all just dig and dig and then i look up it's like gold falling out of the
52:26sky and you're like
52:27i'm not dropping this we hit that bomb it was almost like our team just kind of lit up
52:41i think i could have shut my eyes and gone like this on the game plan
52:49whatever i called would have been eight yards i've never experienced anything like that
52:55he's ever played no matter what we called and the defense played lights out
53:03they stopped john that way every time he got the football when you think about 35 points
53:11in 18 plays that's something that i'm not going to say would never happen again but it hadn't happened
53:18so who were you thinking about then fourth quarter one guy
53:27martin luther king think about all the things that he had been through and
53:32thought about myself being a black quarterback you know you talk about stone mountain you think
53:39think about the mountaintop i realized right then i made it to the mountaintop and and yesterday and
53:45tomorrow don't matter it's what happened today this ends what has been a class week for the washington
53:53redskins and doug williams in particular super bowl mvp and the redskins the super bowl champ
54:02when i walked out the field coach robinson met me in the tunnel i didn't even know coach robinson's at
54:06the game i talked to him all week he didn't even say he was coming to the game but when
54:12i met him in
54:12the tunnel we both threw snot we just hugged we both was crying he said one thing he said you
54:18don't even
54:19understand you don't understand what today is all about that's the most gratifying experience
54:27i've had from football to see him perform like that it's uh it's just something that you treasure forever
54:38for him to see doug win that super bowl you know and that was great
54:46that was one of the most proud moments that any of us that have ever played that quarterback
54:52position as an african-american was just like yes and how much farther could we be from tampa
54:58how long ago that must seem to doug williams i look back at my dad and he went to that
55:04super bowl
55:05i don't remember another game after his retirement he went to ever but he went to that super bowl
55:14i walked through the dressing room and the first person i met was joe gibbs and he say
55:20i told you that he said you had a good feeling that it was going to happen i was thrilled
55:26to kind
55:26of be where i was to be a part of the breakthrough and that we could kind of change that
55:31part of you
55:33know sports and you know because that's truly where it should be and just look what's happened since then
55:43we're going out to dinner afterwards and pull into a gas station and there happened to be
55:50three young black women who were doing the same thing i was doing one woman rolled down the window
55:56and went doug williams and i thought i was so touching it was meaningful that it wasn't jackie robinson but
56:05that meant something he was playing for all of us all of us he could not lose that game because
56:15we know
56:16that the narrative would have been see they can't win the big one they can't be in a leadership role
56:25for the longest time black americans looked at the quarterback as that symbol to measure america by
56:34its promises of democracy of equality so when the black quarterback doesn't get that chance they see
56:41themselves in them and then when that quarterback does succeed at the highest level they see themselves
56:47in him to me that was the moment that it clicked in 1988 and i said you know what now
56:56i think people
56:57are going to say let's just take guys who can win for us and he put on one of the
57:03greatest displays
57:04that we have ever seen in the super bowl it was just it just made you smile it was special
57:17i cannot begin to describe the pride again let's people who probably didn't give a damn about football
57:24they're like we got this dude we got doug after everything he's been through as astute of a human
57:31being as he is he did his thing and he's ours doug is forever our guy
57:41his pride his love for his family and his refusal as a black man to take less not for him
57:51but for black
57:57people
57:59for black people when we talk about progress what makes it difficult is our progress
58:05rarely has anything to do with us
58:13progress for black people when most people talk about it is typically defined by white people
58:21people letting up on us a little bit like it feels like we've made progress because there's a little
58:27bit less racism where's ricky sanders
58:33when the truth is the progress is of the white people it is white people who have progressed beyond
58:40their biases they interfered with their ability to have better football teams
58:45the fact that i got to that stage and realized that we we had to come to something i had
58:51to come to
58:51something so the fact that that we was able to walk off as a winner you know let them know
58:56black
58:56the quarterback wanted yeah
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