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00:02Ding-a-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
00:04Ding-a-la-la-la-la.
00:34Hugh, come on.
00:36Oh, sorry.
00:36Hammer's rolling.
00:37Just enjoying the beautiful view of the Dingle Peninsula.
00:40And the sandwich.
00:40And the sandwich.
00:41Welcome to Other Voices.
00:43We've got another incredible show in store for you tonight.
00:46We do.
00:47Some amazing performances in the church.
00:49You're going to see Shame, who caused nearly a riot in the church.
00:51They're amazing.
00:52We also have Doug, and we have a beautiful soul singer from Reading called Jesse Blakemore.
00:56But to kick things off, playing music from their incredible third album, this is Dry Cleaning.
01:01You can finish it now.
01:03Where's my sandwich?
01:04In peace.
01:28You're always fun to be You're always stressing me out
01:39Don't press me Yeah, you press me Don't press me
01:51I do.
01:53I do.
01:53I do.
02:08I do.
02:10But what can I do?
02:13All I could do was a game mouse
02:16So don't touch my game mouse
02:18You're right
02:57I am wildly excited about this next act
03:00They are truly one of the best live acts on the planet
03:03They're here in St. James' Church for other voices
03:05To play music off their four incredible records
03:08Including their latest masterpiece, Cutthroat
03:11As the band say themselves
03:12This is not performance art
03:14These shows are direct, raw and confrontational
03:16Are you ready, Dingle?
03:18This is Shame
03:24Dingle!
03:38Dingle!
03:40Dingle!
03:42We're beautiful naked
03:44We're a part of a star
03:46Motherfucker, why was born it high?
03:49Dingle!
03:50Sweating, rollin' on me, smiling naked down in the dark
03:53Shouting, I was one, more than a while
03:56Getting good, and getting thought
04:01They like the boys and the girls
04:04They like having fun with everyone
04:09They like the boys and the girls
04:11They like having fun with everyone
04:16And why not do what you want to do?
04:23And why not do what you want to do?
04:40I know you want to win, you want to take a like this
04:44You want to take a like this, take a like this
04:47Take a like, and you know what's wrong, and you know what's right
04:51And that's big, with a naked wind of falling out the sky
04:56Motherfucker, I was born and died
05:00I was born and died
05:02They like the boys and the girls
05:07They like having fun with everyone
05:11They like the boys and the girls
05:14They like having fun with everyone
05:18And why not do what you want to do?
05:26And why not do what you want to do?
05:35Motherfucker, why now?
05:39Motherfucker, why now?
05:56Motherfucker, why now?
06:00Motherfucker, why now?
06:03Motherfucker, why now?
06:07Motherfucker, why now?
06:09Motherfucker, why now?
06:11Motherfucker, why now?
06:11Motherfucker, why now?
06:11Motherfucker, why now?
06:12Motherfucker, why now?
06:13Motherfucker, why now?
06:16Motherfucker, why now?
06:18Motherfucker, why now?
06:20Motherfucker, why now?
06:20Motherfucker, why now?
06:22Motherfucker, why now?
06:28Motherfucker, why now?
06:30Motherfucker, why now?
06:48So why not do what you want to do?
06:55So why not do what you want to do?
07:16Now someone who's come all the way from England for this show tonight
07:19She released an EP in October that's been doing really really big things
07:23But please can you give her a very typically warm Dingle welcome
07:26This is Jesse Blakemore
07:33I thought I was really nice
07:42Don't know why I defended God
07:50You've got secrets I've got seizures
07:53Underneath your eyes
07:55Closer than I've been
07:58Leaving me with nothing
08:00To sell your love to breathe
08:02I'll pretend I don't know what happens
08:06Or you scream
08:10Phone sex, quit sex
08:13Does she do it for your balance
08:16Greatness
08:18When she looks like I hang with IG
08:23More those in your head
08:25I can't compete
08:28Maybe I'm not a fool
08:33Maybe
08:34Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
08:37Maybe I'm not a fool
08:42Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah
08:49What does it take to change a man?
08:59When it just was what he can't have
09:06Oh, I'm scrolling through your pixels
09:09Hoping she's a bitch too
09:12Hate it that I miss you
09:14Cause I feel it when I kiss you
09:17Like I could be a bitch too
09:19Wishing I could treat you like nobody
09:22Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
09:26Phone sex, quit sex
09:29Thought she'd do it for you
09:32Balance brainness
09:34When she look like I hang with IG
09:38Magic mortals in your head
09:41I can't compete
09:44Maybe I'm not a fool
09:49Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah
09:52Maybe I'm not a fool
09:58Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah
10:04Send some text your soldier phone
10:07Only found them on my own
10:09Wishing I could treat you
10:11Like nobody could need you
10:14Send some text your soldier phone
10:16Only found them on my own
10:19Wishing I could treat you
10:21Like nobody could need you
10:25Thank you
10:31Thank you so much
10:41Jessie Bakemore, how do you describe what you make?
10:43I always say it's kind of like all R&B
10:45Yeah
10:46That's kind of maybe indie-leaning
10:48Kind of folk-leaning
10:49Yeah, I mean, you're a gorgeous guitar player
10:51Oh, thank you
10:51So when did you first pick up a guitar?
10:53When I was quite young
10:54So my dad has played guitars around me
10:56Since I was a kid
10:57I always, like, had that around me
10:59I got really shy about performing
11:01So I kind of stopped for a couple years
11:02And then when I was maybe, like, 15, 16
11:05I started to think, oh, actually
11:06I really enjoy this
11:07So let me just throw myself into it, yeah
11:08And were you writing songs then as well?
11:10Yeah, I was
11:11I mean, they're probably pretty bad songs
11:13But, yeah, just always writing
11:15I used to love, like, poetry too
11:17So just always writing stuff
11:18Writing my thoughts down
11:19And was there a moment
11:21When you did perform
11:23Where you kind of felt like
11:26Okay, this could be something
11:28Yeah, I mean, it's weird
11:29Because I think a lot of it was
11:30Is, like, has been online
11:31So, like, so kind of performing
11:33To my phone
11:34Which is kind of weird
11:35And there were a couple videos
11:36I posted a while back
11:37That got a bit of attention
11:38And I was like, okay
11:39This actually feels good
11:40This could be something
11:41Maybe we gave it too many chances
11:45Fuck it
11:46What's one more?
11:52And I could give a fuck
11:55If your boyfriend's waiting at home
11:58Home
12:00I miss the way you made me feel
12:05Come and visit that thought
12:08Let the apathy build
12:11I miss the way you made me feel
12:16Come and visit that thought
12:19Let the apathy build
12:22And call me from your
12:47Tell me that you love me like a brother
12:51But I'm sensing more
12:54Sensitive
12:58I want to give you the world
13:01But you've already got your own
13:04Got your own
13:07And though it's both of us involved
13:10Leave it to me
13:13I want to damage control
13:17The wish both of us involved
13:21Leave it to me
13:24Leave it to me
13:24I'll handle damage control
13:26Call me from your
13:29Call me from your
13:35Call me from your
13:40Call me from your
13:45Burn up, burn up, burn up
13:51Don't hang up, just call me back from my burner phone
13:53You've been sleeping, I've been waiting up for you to get home
13:56Couple lies, couple texts, couple pennies spinning
13:59All the things I said, you know, I never meant
14:01Ears fill the heat when our conversation's done
14:04Talking about you in my sleep, you know that I could say it's wrong
14:06A lie, well maybe I could say it's true
14:09Burn it baby brighter than the sun for you
14:14Burn up, burn up
14:15Don't call me, don't call me
14:20From your burner, burner
14:25Call me from your burner, burner
14:32Thank you so much for singing here
15:12You're welcome, we're coming right now
21:00Well, here's to endless conversations
21:05Here's to late night observations
21:07Here's to plans made in the dark
21:09Here's to hitting off the mark
21:12It'll come around
21:16Here's the lines and here's the clues
21:19Here's the love I made for you
21:21Here's the home well built together
21:24Here's the door we'll paint bright yellow
21:26It'll come around
21:29Well, can't you feel it, can't you see
21:33It's the year of Jubilee
21:36Grab your shovel, let's get going
21:38There's no one way in on
21:40Can't you feel it, can't you see
21:42It's the year, the year of Jubilee
21:48Can't you feel it, can't you see
21:50It's the year, the year of Jubilee
22:22It's the year, the year of Jubilee
22:24See you hang around piling up people who want to get high in the afternoon
22:29And it's able to do
22:30The taste at the afternoon
22:31So ain't nothing better than you
22:37I knew I was to win, I knew I was to win
22:41So ain't nothing better than you
22:48You've been waiting on the wrong side of life
22:50Finding too much enjoyment in pursuing strife
22:53Hugging all your thoughts onto the internet
22:55You've been bought so long
22:57You started to forget you this far
22:59It's a lie in your right hand
23:01And you can make God laugh if you tell him your plans
23:04I was running and complaining
23:06That's why it sucks, shit, crack at the pub
23:09You want me to win nothing
23:12That's just a way nothing better than you
23:14You want me to win nothing
23:17That's just a way nothing better than you
23:20Getting high in the afternoon
23:22Spending money you ain't got
23:24Now I'm going to get declared
23:27That's why it sucks, shit, crack at the pub
23:35Pops hide you
23:38Said you wanna come out tonight
23:40Fuck what?
23:42Nothing at all
23:43Cheap talk and expensive times
23:45Fuck what?
23:49Nothing at all
23:50Fuck what?
23:52Nothing at all
23:53Fuck what?
23:54Fuck what?
23:54Nothing at all
23:55You want me to win nothing at all
24:05Yes, you want me to win nothing
24:08Yes, you want me to win nothing better than you
24:11You want me to win nothing
24:14That's right, some shit crackled in love
24:16And am I in the afternoon?
24:19Say, soon you make a million
24:21Now it's going to be clear
24:24That's right, some shit crackled in love
24:40You guys, both in the way you talk in interviews
24:43And the way you write music
24:44Have like spoken a lot about
24:46The omnipresence of hypocrisy and cowardice around the world
24:50So in that context, let's talk about Cutthroat
24:53Which is such a banger of an album
24:56It's restored some of the fight in me for sure
24:58And I was feeling a bit lethargic
25:00I'm glad
25:00So will you talk to me about the approach to Cutthroat
25:03And your wonderful producer?
25:04I mean, I think, yeah
25:07John Congleton, who's the producer in the record
25:09Really steered the ship
25:10I think in the studio
25:13When we were kind of shaping it
25:15It was all quite excessive, I think
25:18You know, like with the title track, Cutthroat
25:20We were just like, well, let's go all the way
25:22Or Lampiao, you know
25:24Let's go sort of all the way with that
25:26You know, where it's sort of
25:27With the Brazilian Portuguese
25:28And then with the electronic side
25:31It was all a big combination
25:32But yeah, I mean, Sean, you know
25:34Did a lot of the writing, so
25:36Yeah, I think
25:36It's funny, I find
25:38Especially with our process
25:39We usually have a thing where
25:40We think about things too much
25:42For about a six, seven month period
25:45And we kind of don't get anything
25:47I'm sure you've experienced this yourself, you know
25:49And we kind of, we don't do it
25:51We don't do anything
25:53Everyone's miserable
25:54Nothing good's coming
25:54And then we kind of
25:55You know, especially when John came in
25:57I think his ethos is very much
25:59I think we need this a lot
26:00Which is someone to kind of make decisions
26:02Because I think we're so democratic
26:04And there's five of us
26:05That it can quite quickly grind to a halt
26:07And so he kind of came
26:08Democracy's overrated
26:09It is, it is
26:10It is overrated, yeah
26:12And he kind of just came in
26:14And, you know, I think he just really pushed us
26:16To just not think about it
26:17And just write songs and finish songs
26:19And that's kind of, you know
26:21So it feels like the album took a year and a bit to make
26:24But really it was probably like a three month period
26:26Where it just kind of
26:27We were just like
26:28Oh for fuck's sake
26:29Let's just stop overthinking all this
26:31And we just kind of got it done really quick
26:32But it was a really nice kind of cozy album experience
26:36And it was really
26:36There was no stress
26:37There was no fighting
26:38It was the most easy album we've ever recorded, I think
26:56Well let me tell you a little story
26:58About a big bad motherfucker called Lampeão
27:02The Dubner of the Backland
27:04Sailor from the Black Sands
27:06With a fidget knife and a strong hand
27:09He copped out a lot most won't ever understand
27:11And if you want a guy looking for him
27:14You can still hear his name
27:15Once he's through the Northeastern terrains of Brazil
27:18Oh let me out
27:20Where are you now?
27:24Oh let me out
27:25Where are you now?
27:31And military operations
27:32Chides to conquer his vocation
27:34Where the good doing bad
27:36Are the bad doing good
27:37I'm not here to say
27:38There's a bullet in him from both sides
27:40And later not by camera right
27:42He writes stories
27:43And he lay beside his love
27:44Maria Benito
27:46Silver turns to gold
27:47With a poor birth and a rich soul
27:49That motherfucker's called Lampeão
27:52Oh let me out
27:54Where are you now?
27:58Oh let me out
28:00Where are you now?
28:04Where are you now?
28:08Who are you now?
28:09I'm not here to buy
28:09Oh my God
28:13Where are you now?
28:15I'm not here to go
28:18Oh my God
28:23I'm not here to go
28:30And long will its name remain in the storage of football?
28:34And in that place where the water runs white,
28:37some say its gunshots are still lighting up a night.
28:43Olympia, where are you now?
29:00Loop
29:26Come on motherfucker!
29:31Come on, baby.
29:37Let's see some shots inside.
30:16Let's see some shots inside.
30:32Well, thank you for having us.
30:33This is our last song. Cheers.
30:55Well, my nails ain't not a car
30:58And my voice ain't the best you've heard
31:02And you can choose, that ain't my word
31:05But you might give a fuck
31:09Socks and wool, shoes I've worn
31:12Along the side keeps it filled with smoke
31:16And water's empty and I'm gone for
31:19But I'm still breathing
31:22Well, I'm not going to look at
31:26And I ain't going to help
31:29But if you think I love you
31:33You got to do what I tell
31:36Well, I'm not going to look at
31:40And I ain't going to help
31:44But if you think I love you
31:47You got to do what I tell
31:51That girl
31:51You got to do what I tell
31:51ingredient or something
32:08You're sleeping fast
32:09And now you're going to score
32:12But I need you back
32:13And I'd rather be forced inside
32:16And I said stop
32:20You'll lie and smile
32:22If you get what you need
32:23And you're confused
32:26And I won't, I won't save you
32:31I lose my life
32:34And I'm not watching you
32:37I ain't watching you
32:40But if you think I love you
32:44You've got to run out of jail
32:48When I'm not watching you
32:51And I ain't watching you
32:55But if you think I love you
32:59You've got to run out of jail
33:02And you're playing to conflict
33:07And you're playing to conflict
33:10And you're playing to conflict
33:13Just let go
33:14Just let go
33:17And you're playing to conflict
33:21And you're playing to conflict
33:24And you're playing to conflict
33:26Just let go
33:28Just like Joel
34:01Thank you very much single
34:03And now let's all get started
34:11Thank you very fucking much
34:13Cheers
34:30So my next song is a cover
34:32It's one of my favourite songs
34:33It's called X Factor
34:35By Lauren Hill
34:35Yeah I love it so much
34:38So if you know the words
34:38Please sing with me
34:57It could all be so simple
35:05But you'd rather make it
35:11See love to you is like a baton
35:19And we both end up with scars
35:24Tell me who I have to be
35:32To get some rest
35:34To get some prostitute
35:39See no one loves you
36:11More than me
36:15And pretend like you can't stay
36:21See I know what we've got to do
36:28You let go
36:30I'll let go too
36:36See no one's hurt me
36:39More than you
36:43And no one ever will
36:47No matter how I think we grow
36:51You always seem to let me know
36:55It ain't working
36:57It ain't working
37:01It ain't working
37:01It ain't working
37:17And when I try
37:39But would you live for me
37:43Would you live for me
37:47Would you cry
37:53Would you live for me
38:08Would you live for me
38:13Thank you so much
38:46My house is just twelve years old
38:49So landscaping work on
38:53Electrician stuff is figuring out
38:55No problem, child, no problem
38:57How are you crying
39:01Every day he's so big
39:04Strong one, no one
39:07I'm a boy looking forward
39:08A bit of setting the mood
39:20Screaming constantly
39:21People constantly stumbling on me
39:28The shadows are awry
39:30A field of fears laid on my face
39:35Safe inside a secret world
39:37It's one
39:41I'm alive
39:42The stick on shapes with the shoes
39:45Trapped us screaming
39:49The last thing I've done
39:51Is hunger
39:52Was a human or soul
39:55Well, hell, situations
39:58Really put me back on show
40:01There it goes, a busy care
40:04Most angry, scrambling souls
40:08And what is the romantic
40:10Jaseous thing
40:12From the tear of my world
40:14And with the bed
40:18How are you
40:21Every day is a big
40:24Strong one
40:25And I
40:26Don't worry
40:27I'm a boy looking forward
40:28And I'm a boy looking forward
40:29I'm a boy looking forward
40:30Constantly
40:31Constantly
40:32Step on
40:38I'd like to run away with you
40:40On a plane
40:40But
40:41Don't
40:41Read those
40:42Names
40:42You
40:46My silly wolf
40:47Is going too straight
40:48Free
40:49To
40:49Be
40:49It's a big
40:50Smooth
40:51Espresso
40:51That's the
40:52Presso
40:52So
40:53You should check the
40:53Obses
40:54And
40:55I'm
40:55Sicking
40:56To
40:56You
40:57But
40:57I
40:57Can
40:58Believe
40:59The
40:59The
40:59The
40:59The
40:59The
40:59The
40:59The
41:00The
41:00The
41:01The
41:01The
41:02The
41:04The
41:07I'm gonna tell this, make the night, keep it in my own room, cool
41:13Oh, well, well
41:19Oh, well, well
41:35Oh, well, well
41:38Oh, well, well
41:39Oh, well, well
41:46Oh, well, well
41:50Inside the flight
41:51It's a time
41:52You get better when it's wrong
41:54I've only spent work so far
41:57Got my shorts on
41:59I'm really cheap with a heart
42:00These kids are trousers
42:02I don't know what they're doing
42:04I've given up all my songs
42:05You're twenty texts
42:07I've been all in a soccer game
42:10I've only spentкого
42:16I've only been a-
42:25You've been on time for a short娘
44:24Where do you live?
44:25Because you formed in South London.
44:27You're actually from there as well.
44:28Yeah.
44:29I grew up around there.
44:30You grew up around the corner.
44:31He's a seal, seriously.
44:32You reckon?
44:32No, it's not really.
44:34Take us back to the origins then of dry cleaning.
44:38Were you all friends?
44:39I imagine you all grew up in a nursery together.
44:42You're all mates since birth.
44:43That's where the band started, wasn't it?
44:44Like rugrats.
44:46So I met Flo at art college and she introduced me to my partner who was friends with Lewis
44:54and Nick.
44:56And so we just started hanging out as a social group really.
44:59Probably for about three or four years before we even talked about doing a band.
45:02I feel like there was a moment where we was all in lots of different projects and there
45:06was a moment where we were freed up.
45:09We had three times.
45:09Yeah, they're all sort of ending naturally.
45:10At the same time.
45:11So it was like, let's just have a jam, the three of us.
45:13So he used to go for Sundays over at his mum's, in his mum's garage and she'd cook us a
45:17Sunday
45:18dinner.
45:18We did like 10 minutes of playing and about four hours of eating.
45:21Yeah.
45:21Yeah.
45:21And then eventually your mum started going, are you going to do any work today?
45:25Yeah.
45:26So that's when we took it seriously.
45:27Yeah.
45:29Florence's lyrics are sometimes hilarious, sometimes deeply, deeply intriguing.
45:34They do.
45:35When do you hear Florence's lyrics for the first time in the band?
45:40It varies a lot.
45:41So it depends on kind of the room we're rehearsing.
45:43A lot of times we're in a room where we can't really hear much, right?
45:46It's like a really small room.
45:48So Flo might just have some in-ears in and be hearing herself.
45:51And then now again we're projecting to the room.
45:52But you can only hear like rhythms and kind of like slight melodies and kind of, and you
45:57play against that.
45:58So a lot of times it's not to the studio.
45:59But it kind of varies record by record and song by song.
46:01Sometimes you get it really early.
46:03Sometimes you don't get it until you've recorded it.
46:06Yeah.
46:07And when it comes to playing live then, I'm guessing there's no room for like lyrical improvisation.
46:13From Florence, is there?
46:15It depends.
46:16When we sort of do like a headline tour, it does open up a bit more because you sort
46:21of get a chance to sort of know where you're at with songs.
46:25Songs naturally sort of stretch.
46:27Because when you record a song, it's still quite early in the song's life.
46:30Yeah.
46:31So you get, when you play it live, it comes back to life again.
46:34It has a whole other life as a live song, not a recorded one.
46:37So there is room for improvisation.
46:39Yeah.
46:45I'm a cruise ship designer.
46:52I'm striking by the arm's fault.
46:55I'm taking the most of a bad situation.
46:58Cruise is all big business.
47:00I don't personally love them.
47:02But I mean to serve a useful purpose.
47:06I desire very much a place in society.
47:10So designing cruise ships is my best time.
47:13I'm my living.
47:15I'm my child.
47:17Designing cruises is really a privilege.
47:21I'm a lesson.
47:22I need to feel all fine.
47:27It's a little bit of a time.
47:29Cruise ship is on here.
47:32Constructed by the island is home.
47:35To do the most of a bad situation.
47:38It's a mountain we've grown for a mountain.
47:44And I design the towers that cause control the sea.
47:51But I'm semi-anonymous.
47:54Land and ladders.
47:56I'm not a bad fish as well.
47:58I believe in design.
48:00It's a mountain.
48:03I don't believe in design.
48:05I'm not a bad fish.
48:08I don't think I can see.
48:13I'm coming.
48:14I'm running.
48:16He shaking his eye.
48:19I'm striking by the iron his heart.
48:23Making my voice.
48:24Striking by the iron spot
48:27Mmm
48:29The bad situation is a popular vote
48:33For popular money
49:08We'll be here next week, same time, same place
49:11With music from Chalk, Miles Kane, Annie Dogg and Travi
49:16See you then
49:26See you then
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