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00:00You are part of a criminal enterprise, what they call laundering cash.
00:05So you purchased two sets of tires.
00:08You never received the tires.
00:10He was like, just send me whatever you have.
00:13What the hell were you thinking?
00:14You knew that this was a scam.
00:17Yeah.
00:17If you're buying something from a thief, you don't get to sue the thief.
00:21You could smirk all you want.
00:23You are going to be doomed.
00:25Now, on Tribunal Justice.
00:50Today's case was filed in Santa Ana, California.
00:54Your Honor, this is case number 3108 on the calendar.
00:58In the matter of Gallagher v. Guzman.
01:00Thank you, Bert.
01:01You're welcome, Judge.
01:02Parties have been sworn in.
01:03You may be seated.
01:04Mr. Gallagher, you knew the defendant, Mr. Guzman, since middle school.
01:09But you kind of fell out of touch since then.
01:11But you became aware of a social media account he had, which offered discounted items for sale.
01:18So you purchased two sets of tires.
01:21One set of tires was for a 2018 BMW.
01:25The other was for a Dodge Hellcat.
01:27And you paid $1,400.
01:30You maintain that you never received the tires.
01:33And you further alleged that the defendant was actually running a scam.
01:37And so you are suing him for the return of the $1,400.
01:41Mr. Guzman, your defense is that you no longer own this site.
01:45You don't owe him anything.
01:46And you don't have anything to do with any kind of scam.
01:50And you know nothing about it.
01:52Correct, Your Honor.
01:53Okay.
01:53So, Mr. Gallagher, I'm going to start with you, sir.
01:56You go on the site.
01:57It's the defendant's social media account.
01:59What was the handle on the account?
02:01The name was HKC.
02:02HKC.
02:03Yeah.
02:03How did you know it was his site?
02:05Yeah, because he was the one who actually owned it.
02:08Like, a bunch of my mutual friends actually talked to him.
02:11And they bought a bunch of stuff off of him.
02:13And it actually went through.
02:14So you go on to this Instagram page.
02:17Correct.
02:17What do you see?
02:18And how do you purchase items?
02:19So basically, he would post, like, how to order.
02:22Like, on the evidence that says, DM me with the format, like, whatever you want.
02:26Delivery, restaurants.
02:28They need your address, phone number, like, all that.
02:30And then they only take Zelle, Cash App, and Crypto.
02:33So you DM them and say, I want some tires.
02:36Yeah.
02:36I'm going to now turn to you, Mr. Guzman.
02:38Explain to me the operation of this site.
02:41Okay.
02:42Yeah, so it's an Instagram account that I used to run.
02:44I don't run it currently.
02:45I sold it off in early January.
02:47When I was running it, how it would work is I would use AI to, like, scour the web for
02:52discount codes.
02:53You know, there are certain discount codes on certain sites that give you, you know, large amounts off,
02:58which I would get, and then I would return order it for the customers, and I would take the percentage
03:02off.
03:03Say if I was a 50% off discount code, I would give them roughly, like, 30% off and
03:08then just keep the remainder.
03:09The 20% was your profit?
03:12Yes.
03:12What was the name of the person who you sold it to?
03:14I was not on a formal basis with this person.
03:17So you didn't know a name?
03:18No, I did not.
03:19How much did you sell it for?
03:21For $1,600.
03:21$1,600.
03:23So this person, we'll just call them Mr. X, is the person with whom you're in contact after you say
03:30that this is the purchase that you want.
03:31Now, just so we're clear, you purchase the tires through this platform, and then you receive information from this mysterious
03:40Mr. X, who says, pay me, and then go to this other location to pick up the tires.
03:47Yes.
03:48And that was for the first set of tires you bought was $1,000.
03:52And then when did you decide to buy the second set of tires through this platform?
03:57I believe it was two days after.
03:59Two days after.
03:59So now you've given them $1,400.
04:02Yeah.
04:02And what does this person tell you about what you need to do in order to pick up the tires?
04:08So this is what he says.
04:10He's like, oh, like, it's under someone else's name.
04:12I'm like, okay, what?
04:14You mean the tires that you paid for?
04:17Yes.
04:17He says they are at this location, but they're under someone else's name.
04:21Yeah, he told me this, like, at 4 a.m.
04:24So I work, I work, like, at In-N-Out, and I work from 4 a.m. to 10 a
04:29.m.
04:30And I texted him back.
04:31He was like, oh, I got to go out of country, bro.
04:34I'm traveling with a bunch of homies to Columbia or something.
04:37He was like, you got to send me a right now.
04:39Traveling with a bunch of homies to Columbia.
04:41I need the money right now.
04:43Yeah.
04:44Yeah, he was like, just send me whatever you have, and I'll get the appointment ready.
04:49How old are you?
04:4918.
04:50You're 18.
04:51Is it common now for people to engage in these transactions and not know anybody's name?
04:57I thought it was Jesse, like, this whole time.
04:59Like, well, I did, like, he was, like, affiliated.
05:01So that's why I was like, okay, everything's safe.
05:03You could actually see on the account, there's so many results.
05:07And you knew people who had purchased items.
05:09Yes.
05:10Okay, so you go to a tire store.
05:12Yeah.
05:13And what this person has said to you is that the tires will be there, but under not your name,
05:20even though you paid for them, they will be there under somebody else's name.
05:23Yeah.
05:24And so what happens when you go to try to pick them up?
05:26I didn't go.
05:27So it's, like, a day before, right?
05:30I call the place.
05:31I'm like, hey, like, oh, like, I'm going to pick up the tires.
05:35Like, I'm, like, I say my name, and I'm like, oh, like, I'm the person, blah, blah, blah, like, pick
05:41up the tires tomorrow.
05:42Like, is it ready?
05:43Like, is, and they were like, they were like, no, the tires haven't been ordered.
05:46Like, I don't even know about your appointment.
05:48Like, there's nothing, there's nothing, like.
05:50Basically, they're like, who are you?
05:51Yeah.
05:52We know nothing from you.
05:53Yeah.
05:53We know nothing about these tires.
05:55What the heck are you talking about?
05:57Yeah.
05:57And then you reach out to your middle school acquaintance here and ask him for help.
06:02And you tell him you don't own the site anymore, but you're going to try to rectify it.
06:06If I may, he came to my house with another friend, and it was kind of on, like, a very
06:12aggressive approach.
06:13You know, he was telling me to give him his money, and I was kind of confused.
06:16I had just woken up.
06:17I'm like, what are you talking about?
06:19To where he kind of broke the situation down to me, and I was, you know, just having to walk
06:22up.
06:23I was like, here's my number.
06:24Go ahead and text me, and we'll figure it out, which is where that conversation started.
06:27In your answer, what you say is that after you allegedly sold the site to this mysterious unnamed person, that
06:35you retained some interest in the company, which was that you got a commission on the sales.
06:41But what you say is that you would take a portion of the sales or the money that was generated
06:47from the sales and convert it to crypto.
06:49Why were you doing that?
06:51That's just how he wanted to be paid.
06:52So you were paying some unnamed person whose name you didn't know in cryptocurrency.
06:58Yes.
06:58Why do you think this was a scam?
07:02Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
07:05You are a scammer, and I'm going to tell you why.
07:13Oshin Galagay says he was scammed when he bought two sets of tires through Jesse Guzman's online business and never
07:19received them.
07:20He's suing for the return of his $1,400.
07:23But Jesse claims he sold the business, and Oshin is suing the wrong person.
07:28Why do you think this was a scam?
07:30I mean, what made you so suspicious, Mr. Galagay?
07:34I was just suspicious, like, after he said all that.
07:37Like, I was like, crypto, and then like, I don't know, like.
07:40In your complaint, you allege that the defendant was running a scam with a small group of people.
07:47Correct.
07:47And that they sell a course where they teach people how to run the scam.
07:53Correct.
07:53I'll have it all on video proof.
07:55You submitted evidence.
07:56May we see the video, please?
07:59When you use a card, you want to keep it in your own state, because if you try to use,
08:06say, a card from Florida, the bank is going to see that someone from California or wherever you may be.
08:11Who's that talking?
08:12He's trying to use a Florida card.
08:13Is that your voice, sir?
08:13Yes, that is the old video.
08:14He's most likely going to block it.
08:16All right, so say if I want to find Visa, just press full info.
08:20And you literally got everything right here.
08:23You got the card number, the expiration date, and the CVV2, so the three numbers on the back, the name,
08:31the address, and the zip code.
08:33The way you would use this is the same way that you would check out something if you were using
08:37your own card.
08:38Copy it, right?
08:39He said, as if you were using your own card.
08:41I think you would go down here and you would put credit to the card.
08:42This is prior, Your Honor.
08:44I don't do this.
08:45Wait for it to load.
08:46Put the name on the card.
08:48Fill all that info in, you know, and then just check out.
08:51Hopefully it goes through.
08:53This is straight up illegal.
08:55You are trying to instruct people on how to use other people's financial information.
09:02Like I said, this is a pass, and I don't see how it's relevant to the...
09:05It's relevant because I say it is.
09:06I don't think it's relevant.
09:07Because I think not only were you a part of something that deceived this young man, you were engaged in
09:13a massive credit card scam in the country.
09:15I have nothing else for you right now.
09:17Judge Domingo?
09:18I just have to ask you, because Judge Acker said to you, what made you so suspicious?
09:22And I'm sitting here thinking, what took you so damn long to become suspicious?
09:26What the hell were you thinking?
09:28You call a guy who you don't know, and you say, oh, bro, I'm waiting for you.
09:32All good?
09:33How does this work?
09:34He goes, send the bread.
09:35And you, send the bread.
09:39You are a scammer, and I'm going to tell you why.
09:42Because this owner person whose name you don't know, you're the owner.
09:47You're the one he's communicating with.
09:48You're still running this whole thing.
09:51And you know what?
09:51Yeah, well, you could say whatever you want.
09:53Okay.
09:53Who do you send the money to?
09:54What's the name?
09:55Jesse Guzman.
09:55Jesse, that's his name.
09:57Yes.
09:57Everything in here points to you.
09:59And you know why you do crypto?
10:01Of course you're going to say no.
10:02You're not going to say, yeah, it's me.
10:03You got me.
10:04What do you think this is?
10:05Perry Mason?
10:05You got me, Judge.
10:07No.
10:07Okay.
10:08Maybe you just don't understand the evidence.
10:09No, no, no, no.
10:10What I understand is criminality.
10:12This here is about you.
10:15You know why you use crypto?
10:16Because crypto is money that the government can't trace.
10:20But it's entered my bank.
10:21Well, it could, but you're going to say something else.
10:23So there's trace of it in my bank.
10:25So you're taking and you're pocketing this money in your bank account, right?
10:2810%, yes.
10:29Yeah, 4%.
10:29No, you are the owner.
10:31I am not the owner.
10:32You are both of these people.
10:35So the other guy, the owner whose name you don't know, he's the criminal, right?
10:39Right?
10:40Yeah.
10:40But you know what you're doing?
10:42You know, there's a term in the law, which I'm sure you know, acting in concert.
10:46Is that something?
10:46And that makes you equally responsible for the acts of the main actor in a crime.
10:52But the bottom line is, you are all the things that you are saying in here that you're not.
10:56You are part and parcel of this criminal enterprise.
10:59That makes you as criminal as the owner.
11:02You could smirk all you want.
11:03But if they come after you, sir, you are going to be doomed.
11:08Well, I've already done, you know, my, how could I say, consequences for that, which is why I said that's
11:15in the past.
11:15So what are your consequences?
11:17Did you get arrested and charged with a crime?
11:19I had to go to court for a good while.
11:21I go to court, too.
11:22I visit.
11:23I come here.
11:23But I'm not charged with a crime.
11:24So I asked you a direct question.
11:26Were you charged with a crime?
11:28I had to work out a deal.
11:29You had to give somebody up.
11:30You had to give up because you are part of a criminal enterprise using cryptocurrency to what they call laundering
11:37cash.
11:38You steal it from him.
11:39That's the illegal money that you get.
11:41And you launder that money because there is no other person.
11:44He's just some made out.
11:45You're out of what?
11:46You seem pretty familiar.
11:47Are you sure you're not the one behind it?
11:49No.
11:49You know why I'm familiar?
11:50Because I spent 20 years on the bench doing criminal cases.
11:53And I spent the 20 years before that prosecuting criminal cases.
11:56So I am very well versed in this.
11:59And that's why, sir, I do know you're the criminal in this case.
12:03And if you think you got it tough from me, you're up next, Judge Levy.
12:09That's not true.
12:10I'm a nice guy.
12:11What are you talking about?
12:12All right, Mr. Guzman, you acknowledge that you were in the past involved in illegal conduct, as we saw on
12:18the screen, right?
12:19Yes, which I strayed away from.
12:20Okay.
12:21And you were contacted by the authorities?
12:23Yes.
12:23That was in 2024?
12:25Yes.
12:26And when the authorities came, was it the feds that came, or was it state police?
12:29No, it was state police.
12:31They didn't arrest me, but they bring me in for questioning, and I had to talk to the DA.
12:34Okay.
12:35And so you gave a proffer to the DA?
12:36Yes.
12:37And part of that proffer was telling them what you knew about this criminal organization?
12:41Yes, sir.
12:41And to give it up and to ensure I wouldn't do it again.
12:44Did the police indicate to you, or did the DA indicate to you, that you may have to testify against
12:47people that are arrested as a result of your cooperation?
12:50They said that, but I was not having to testify.
12:53Well, you haven't yet.
12:54No, not yet.
12:55How old were you when you went in?
12:5618.
12:57You were 18?
12:57No, 19, sorry.
12:58You were 19?
12:58And how old are you now?
12:5919.
13:0019.
13:00So you're still 19 years old?
13:01Yes.
13:02So now, with this shock to you, right, that you could have gone to jail.
13:07Yes.
13:08It would seem to me that the smart thing to do at that time would be to wash your hands
13:12completely.
13:13Of course, Your Honor, but, you know, greed gets to all of us, and I thought keeping 10% would,
13:17you know, just keep me at a clean slate.
13:18No, I get that. I represented criminals for 12 years, and a lot of my clients said the same exact
13:23thing. You know, it was just too good to give up.
13:26Of course.
13:26But here's the problem, Mr. Guzman. You see, if the plaintiff here loses this case, and you might, what he
13:33knows now, because I'm going to tell him, is that you go to the DA's office and you let them
13:37know that he's back up to his old tricks again, they're going to arrest him, not only for this, but
13:43for the first charge, too.
13:45And with you as a complainant, they will get from you restitution from him, because what they're going to tell
13:51you, Mr. Guzman, we're going to prosecute you for the old case.
13:54We're going to prosecute you for this case.
13:56And the only way that you're going to avoid a lengthy prison sentence is if you pay him back his
14:01money, because that's exactly what I think is going to happen.
14:05Because quite frankly, sir, I don't think that you're a bona fide purchaser for value.
14:09You knew that there was something shady about this deal.
14:12You knew.
14:14Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
14:17Now, this BMW, did you buy the car yourself?
14:19I've been saving it since 2016.
14:21What about the Hellcat?
14:22That was my friend's car.
14:23So this $400 that you spent was money that was given to you by your friend, so it's not even
14:27your $400 you're suing for.
14:34Aushin Galagay says scam artist Jesse Guzman owes him $1,400 for tires he bought and never received.
14:41But Jesse says he sold his business before Aushin's purchase, so he's suing the wrong person.
14:46How much were these $1,000 tires that you were buying?
14:50They were for your BMW, right?
14:51Because you had to go online and find them.
14:54They were $2,000.
14:55$2,000.
14:56Yeah.
14:56You knew that this was a scam.
14:58That there was something wrong going on, right?
15:01Oh, my God.
15:02You knew.
15:03Not really.
15:03You suspected it.
15:04Yeah, I did.
15:05Yes, Your Honor.
15:06And that's why you're not a bona fide purchaser for value.
15:09And I'm ruling against you for that reason, not because I don't think you're a hardworking guy.
15:13I think you are.
15:14I like the way you came to court today in a suit and tie.
15:16That shows respect.
15:18But it's also to teach you a lesson.
15:20Yeah.
15:20If something is too good to be true, it probably is.
15:24And he's a bad guy.
15:25So if you lose this case, the only way you're going to get your money back is if you go
15:30to the DA's office and turn him in.
15:32Because then you'll get your money back.
15:33Because DA's don't like it when defendants get a break and then stick it back in the DA's eye by
15:39committing more crimes.
15:41They don't like that.
15:41I think we're done.
15:43Thank you, Your Honor.
15:43Judge Levy made a very good point.
15:45Look, if you're buying something from a thief and the thief says, here's a Rolex for $300 and you know
15:52that it's a Rolex and you know that he can't prove where it came from.
15:56Yeah.
15:57Then you don't get to sue the thief because he didn't give you the stolen Rolex and you gave him
16:02$300.
16:03That means you're just both in bed with the bad business.
16:06Oh, I had no idea until like later on I found out through a friend.
16:12You didn't think it was a deal that was too good to be true?
16:15Not really.
16:16I don't know.
16:16Well, yeah, I was like, oh yeah, it was a good deal, but.
16:19Well, you sent the money.
16:20Yeah, I sent the money.
16:21That's why.
16:22Yeah, no, we, oh, we know he sent the money, but why didn't you just send him the money back?
16:27Because I no longer had it.
16:28Oh, right, right.
16:29And went to mystery man.
16:32If I knew I was being sued and I was going to go in front of a court, why would
16:35I not just send the money back?
16:36I don't know.
16:37Why would you not?
16:37Because I did not have it.
16:39Why would I pay $400 in my pocket that I didn't think I was entitled to pay back?
16:42I got you.
16:43Mystery man had it.
16:44Well, that clears that up.
16:46I don't have anything else.
16:47I want to go back to you for a second.
16:49I guess we're trying to save you somehow.
16:52You make a purchase of $1,000.
16:56Then you make another purchase two days later for $400.
16:58At that point, when you were giving the money over, did you believe that there was a scam there at
17:05that point?
17:06No.
17:07Okay.
17:07I know why.
17:08Why?
17:09Because there's a text that you get on your phone.
17:12It's like your appointment has been set.
17:14You're all scheduled.
17:15And I was like, okay, wow.
17:17Okay, good.
17:17And the scheduled appointment was at a business place because you had actually found the businesses online and you said,
17:24this is where I'd like to go.
17:26Would that be correct?
17:27Yes, Your Honor.
17:27And they said, fine, we'll set you up at those places, right?
17:31Yes, Your Honor.
17:32I didn't think of it like a suspicious until I went to his house and I talked to him.
17:36To his house?
17:37Yeah.
17:37So it was way after the transaction.
17:39So at the point that you were making them, you just thought you were making purchases of these tires.
17:45It's like a fire sale kind of thing.
17:47So maybe at that point in time, there might be an argument that I could make that you were a
17:53bona fide purchaser for value at that point.
17:55And once you realized that you were being scammed, it was already too late.
17:59Because when you went to him, he's given you the runaround with, you know, you're not even a good friend
18:05of his.
18:05I could tell you guys were never friends.
18:08You're Mr. Cool, smooth, smart.
18:10And you're Mr. We have a word in Italian like chidro.
18:12But you're like one of these people you just go through life and you think everything's going to be the
18:15way you think it is.
18:16But you would be scammed by somebody like him.
18:19All right.
18:20I don't have any other questions of you.
18:21Yeah, this isn't as though you go on this Instagram account and you say, just find me on the Internet
18:28four tires for the BMW, right?
18:31You, according to your texts, you text and say, this is the store that I want to go to to
18:36pick up the tires.
18:37Yeah, but it's on the, he was like, select a store.
18:40Right.
18:41Now, this BMW, it's a 2018.
18:44Yeah.
18:44And you work in In-N-Out.
18:46Yeah.
18:46Did you buy the car yourself?
18:48Uh, well, my parents helped me out a little bit and I've been saving up since I was 16.
18:52Since you're 16?
18:52This is my dream car, actually.
18:53I just bought it.
18:54What about the Hellcat?
18:55That's my friend's car.
18:56So this $400 that you spent was money that was given to you by your friend to get him tires
19:02the same way, right, that you had gotten tires?
19:04Yeah.
19:05Right.
19:05So it's not even your $400 you're suing for.
19:07No.
19:08Well, yeah, I guess.
19:09I got nothing further.
19:11What?
19:12You can't tell me this kid wasn't suckered in.
19:14Come on.
19:15I was going to say.
19:15I got it.
19:16I got it.
19:17We're going to retire you to deliberate at this time.
19:20Court now stands in recess.
19:22This case will be recalled.
19:23I'll be done.
19:24Excuse me.
19:31So is he not a bona fide purchaser or is he just not the sharpest tack?
19:37He could be both.
19:37He could be both.
19:38He's not mutually exclusive.
19:39That's true.
19:39In fact, to be the non-bona fide purchaser, you've got to be sharp.
19:43I don't know.
19:44When we got this case, I started going online and taking a look at how these codes work and
19:50how people can buy these promotions.
19:52I know there are some legit sites that do offer promo codes that allow people to search for
19:57a wide variety of goods.
20:00So I'm really on the fence.
20:01There's part of me that just sees him as a little bit of a naive.
20:05If I may, just to jump in, that with respect to the $400 that he just finally gave up,
20:11just keep in mind when we're on that fence about is he or is he not a bona fide purchaser
20:16for value, he made it very clear in his statement to us, in his sworn statement, that that was
20:20his money.
20:21And but for that little inquiry at the end, there may have been a decision to give him
20:25$1,400 that he was not otherwise entitled to.
20:28And he would have been very happy taking that.
20:30He thinks the money was stolen from him.
20:31He's not entitled to the money because he admits it's not his, but I don't think he
20:35put it in his papers because he is sophisticated enough to recognize that just because the
20:40money came from his person.
20:41Like he might feel responsible for it.
20:43It's like, I have the money, he took it from me.
20:45You know, this guy is so malleable that anything you would have said to him, after a while,
20:49I'm thinking, stop saying yes to Judge Levy, you're screwing yourself here.
20:52What the hell are you doing?
20:53He's asking you, so, did you take the money and set it on fire?
20:57I think I did now.
20:59I know that I think about it.
21:00But anyway, if you want to keep with the bona fide purchaser for value argument, at the
21:04time he made the purchases, he had no reason to believe, and he said it.
21:08They sent him the thing that said, yes, you're going to go to this particular place, you're
21:11going to meet there, you're going to hear.
21:12And he said to him, are you sure, bro?
21:14Yeah, because it's like bringing your car someplace for your friend.
21:16He quoted it in here.
21:18That's how, how unsophisticated he is.
21:21The defendant is, I'm telling you, I'm convinced that the defendant is the owner.
21:26He is the owner of this criminal enterprise.
21:29And this jooch, this dope here, is just going along with...
21:34I know, I get very Italian when I get mad.
21:37He's just going along.
21:38I told you, he would have sunk himself if you kept asking him questions.
21:41I thought I had to save him.
21:42And the argument that I would make, even in favor of the 400, is that if I give you $400
21:49to go buy something from Adam, and then Adam steals it from you, I'm not looking at Adam,
21:54I'm looking at you.
21:55Exactly.
21:55I gave you the money.
21:56That's correct.
21:56So you go back and get my money.
21:58You don't have to convince me.
21:58You sue Adam, give me my money, and then we're good.
22:02Right.
22:02I'm with you.
22:03Listen, I don't mind...
22:03I am with you.
22:04Yeah, I most certainly don't mind dissenting.
22:06And to simply dismiss the plaintiff's case, I'll dissent on the one hand.
22:10But on the other hand, I would also agree to dismiss the case without prejudice, and
22:15to allow the plaintiff to go and to file this complaint, and once he comes back with proof
22:20that he got law enforcement involved, whatever law enforcement chooses to do or not do, that's
22:25up to law enforcement.
22:26But at least we can show that not succeeding here on the merits, we're giving him an out,
22:31which is simply do what you should have done to begin with, which is go to the authorities
22:34and notify them that this guy's a scammer, he's still scamming people, and more people
22:38are going to do it.
22:39And then I would be willing to reevaluate when he came back.
22:43All right.
22:43I don't care how you dismiss his pot.
22:45I'm not dismissing this.
22:47This kid's getting his money.
22:48We're on board for $1,400?
22:49Yes.
22:50Okay.
22:50All right.
22:51Great deliberation.
22:56Court is back in session.
22:58I remind both parties you're still under oath.
23:00Thank you, Bert.
23:01We had a very sparkly and lively deliberation, and we're not at all unanimous.
23:07The thing I'll point out is that the issue was you and was whether or not you were naive
23:14enough to ignore some of these warning signs.
23:17I need the money now.
23:18I'm going to Columbia and use this fake name.
23:21You know, whether or not there was some naivete there, and Judge Levy came out exactly where
23:28he said he would.
23:29He would dismiss your case in its entirety, or alternatively, he would dismiss it without
23:34prejudice, affording you the opportunity to go to the police, make a report, come back,
23:40and then prove that you were, in fact, victimized.
23:43I can't remember the Italian word that Judge Domingo used, but I think it translates into
23:51young and naive.
23:52And that's a very polite way.
23:54The nice translation of it is young and naive.
23:57We recognize that you got $400 from somebody else.
24:01But, again, we are going to award you that money because, again, if I give her some money
24:06and she gives it to Judge Levy and Judge Levy rips her off, I'm going to come to her and
24:11say, you know what?
24:12Where's my money?
24:13You dealt with him.
24:14So we are going to award you back that $400.
24:18We're also going to award you the $1,000 that you're seeking.
24:22And we're also going to hopefully try to award you some common sense.
24:26Like, at some point, the warning bells have to go off.
24:30You need to sharpen up a little bit.
24:32We are giving you the benefit of the doubt here, and we are entering judgment in your
24:36favor.
24:36For $1,400, Judge Levy is dissenting.
24:40That's the verdict of the court.
24:42Sir, I don't know what you're up to in life now, but I hope you're doing better than taking
24:46things from people and victimizing folks who work hard for their money.
24:50That's the verdict of the court.
24:52This case is not concluded.
24:54Parties are excused.
24:56You may step out.
24:59I know my prior actions probably didn't look the best, but, you know, people change ways.
25:02I was so angry because it was $1,400.
25:04It was a lot for me.
25:05Yeah, he confused me.
25:06He was upset.
25:07You know, he was banging on the door, like, where's my money?
25:09I'm like, what are you talking about?
25:10I just woke up.
25:11Ah, like that.
25:12That was just kind of in the moment, you know, I could get this off my hands and still
25:15get a commission.
25:16I'm not ever buying a tire on mine.
25:17I'll just go to a tire shop and I'll just get them there.
25:20A former friend do you wrong?
25:22Let tribunal justice buddy up to your case.
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