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Vediamo questo lunghissimo video di gameplay tratto dalla versione alpha di Heroes of the Storm e commentato dal game director di Blizzard, Dustin Browder. Vi ricordiamo che si tratta di un MOBA con protagonisti i personaggi più famosi dei titoli di Blizzard. Ovviamente è esclusivo per PC.
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01:44è una combinazione di Nova, che è arrivato in posizione di Shadows.
01:48Penso che Blue ha avuto l'advantaggio in la posizione.
01:51Oh, Arthas gets help, è un po' di range di powers.
01:53È un po' di un po' di trouble.
01:55ETC comes in, è un po' di bale l'amato.
01:56È un po' di Tarana, è un po' di paya per questo pollo.
01:58E down she goes, Red, con First Blood,
02:01anche se è un po' di Blue che ha avuto la hook.
02:03Abbiamo un po' di più difficoltà con Sean,
02:05quindi è un po' di più quieto, ma penso che è un po' di più in action.
02:09È un po' di più.
02:09No, I just need the microphone stabilizzato.
02:11È un po' di più.
02:12È un po' di più, ma è un po' di più, ma è un po' di guardare.
02:15E non lo so, non lo so, non lo so, non lo so.
02:17I'm going to be asking questions.
02:19I mean, I'm not going to just stand over here at some point.
02:21That would not be good.
02:22I am no Bronze League observer.
02:24But, I mean, we're seeing a lot of, like, you know,
02:26the usual mechanics of, you know, the MOBA genre.
02:30But, like, for me, I have very limited experience in the genre at all.
02:34I mean, I've, you know, I've watched some LCS.
02:36I've played a couple MOBA games in general.
02:39So, you know, I'm familiar with some of the basic roles.
02:41But, like, this is not the usual three-lane map.
02:44No, this is our two-lane map.
02:45And this is because we have so much space in the Haunted Mines,
02:47which you're going to open up here in just a little bit.
02:49What everybody's doing right now is they're fighting for position
02:51and trying to get off some early advantage.
02:53They can get a level difference at this point.
02:55So, we have team levels in this game.
02:56So, they can go up one level above the enemy.
02:58That would be a huge advantage.
02:59You can see right now that Red Team is actually up one level.
03:01So, by the time those mines open up,
03:03you want to have a level advantage if you can swing it.
03:05And Blue is in a little bit of trouble right here down on those levels.
03:07And now they just caught up again.
03:08So, it's not much of an advantage Red has got.
03:10In addition to that level advantage,
03:12you want to get the positional advantage.
03:13If you can push back these minions into these towers
03:16and really sort of gain control of the area around the mines,
03:20you'll be in a position to get down into the mines
03:23and prevent the enemy from doing it at all
03:24or certainly delaying their arrival into the mines,
03:26which, again, will earn your team the benefits of the mines.
03:30We'll see those come online.
03:30For those of you who haven't seen this game
03:31or know what I'm talking about,
03:32I just want to discuss it.
03:33When you get down into the mines,
03:35you'll see these mines will open up.
03:36When you go below, you collect skulls.
03:38And when all the skulls are collected,
03:39a Grave Golem will be built by both teams.
03:41And how many skulls you've collected
03:43will determine how big your Grave Golem is.
03:45So, the more skulls, the bigger your Grave Golem.
03:47And that Grave Golem will push.
03:48Whoa, big hook there on ETC.
03:50It's a little bit of trouble.
03:51He's trying to get out of there.
03:52I think Nova drops him.
03:53Well done by Nova.
03:55And it looks like,
03:55looks like Tyranda might pay again.
03:57Oh, Daybringer just gets away.
03:59Daybringer is Brett, one of our balance landers.
04:01Really strong player.
04:02Watch him for doing very well with that character
04:04as the game progresses.
04:05All right.
04:06So, right now,
04:06it looks like they're trying to maintain control of this.
04:08Like, how does the strategy work
04:10with trying to go into the mines?
04:11Watch, it's just about to happen.
04:13Even now, we're just there.
04:14The mine has just opened up
04:15and the units have spawned.
04:17So, now, if you go down,
04:18you'll see them cross over here in a minute.
04:20Tyranda looks like she's going to go.
04:21So, go down to the bottom of the map.
04:22That's right.
04:22Down there.
04:23And you can see Tyranda has now moved
04:24into this whole other area of the map,
04:26which is the mines.
04:27And she's going to go down here
04:28and try to collect the skulls
04:29from these skeletons down.
04:30So, there's one skull.
04:31She's collected one.
04:32You can see there at the top of the screen,
04:33Blue has collected two skulls
04:35out of 98 skulls remaining.
04:36Red is coming down here, closing in.
04:38Tyranda, a little bit of trouble.
04:39She's surrounded by ETC
04:41and Gazel, the Tinker there.
04:42Wow.
04:43I was saying great things about Brett.
04:44He just got crushed.
04:46So, it looks like Blue
04:48has got a little bit of advantage
04:48in the mines in terms of skull click,
04:49but you saw Red had a strong presence
04:51down there in the mines
04:52in the top position.
04:53We still have a couple of players
04:54staying up top
04:56just to collect experience points
04:58from those minions.
04:58If you leave all of the lanes,
05:00your team's going to get
05:01no experience points
05:01from those lanes.
05:02So, it sometimes makes sense
05:03to collect some up top as well.
05:04I mean, are they getting experience
05:05in lower lanes?
05:06They are getting experience
05:07on their well,
05:07but remember,
05:08it's shared team experience.
05:09So, you need someone
05:09at each location
05:11where experience points
05:11is being generated
05:12and then your team
05:13will get access
05:13to that experience point.
05:14So, you kind of are encouraged
05:15to spread out.
05:16Obviously, as things get serious,
05:17you want to bunch up
05:18for the team fight.
05:18So, it's sort of a difficult
05:19strategic choice.
05:20You see here,
05:21Red's really moving well together
05:23as they maneuver around.
05:24Green, a Blue
05:25in a little bit of trouble.
05:26Red clustering well.
05:26there's a back attack there
05:27by Sergeant Hammer.
05:29Arthas in limited danger.
05:30Down goes Witch Doctor
05:31and Chironda coming in as well.
05:32I think Red is getting
05:33surrounded here.
05:34Three, two, five
05:34and absolutely annihilated.
05:37It looks like they're
05:37in total trouble.
05:38Another one down.
05:39Tons and tons of kills
05:40for Blue in that spot.
05:41Every single hero
05:42is in the mines.
05:43I mean, is this pretty standard?
05:44I mean, I know that this
05:45is the big source of skulls,
05:46this mega dude.
05:47Yeah, it's pretty typical
05:48at this stage of the game.
05:49Later on in the game,
05:50as the heroes go up in levels
05:52and the mercenaries
05:52become a bigger part
05:53of the experience on this map,
05:54sometimes you will see
05:56players be a lot more strategic
05:57about who does
05:58and who does not
05:58go down into the mines
05:59because you simply
06:00can't afford to leave
06:01your bases up top undefended
06:03or you might be able
06:04to do more damage up top
06:05by leaving a few heroes
06:06up there.
06:07But at this early position,
06:08generally speaking,
06:09advantage in the mines
06:10is what you want.
06:11There's not a lot to be gained
06:12by staying up top
06:13and so you see some players
06:14stay up top to maintain
06:15some kind of experience
06:16points advantage
06:16but they won't leave
06:17any serious forces up there
06:18and generally speaking,
06:19they'll commit everybody
06:19to the mines below.
06:20So I mean, right now
06:21it looks like Red
06:22is just trying to
06:24obey it as much damage
06:25as they can in the mine
06:26to try to lower that
06:27and they're pushing
06:28really hard up on the top.
06:29I mean, there's only
06:29really one blue hero
06:30down in the south lane.
06:31Yeah, so Red was
06:32sort of lost out
06:33in the mines.
06:34They knew they didn't
06:34get the lion's share
06:35so they left Blue
06:35to clean up down there
06:36and while Blue
06:37was cleaning up,
06:38Red tried to get
06:38something done
06:39and so they went back
06:40and they got themselves
06:41a mercenary camp there
06:42and now they're pushing
06:43hard against these lanes
06:44trying to gain
06:45some kind of advantage
06:46from their defeat
06:46in the mines.
06:48Obviously, those golems
06:49are going to come up
06:49and they've got 64 golems
06:50to 36
06:51so Blue has the golem
06:52advantage
06:52but honestly
06:53at this point
06:54that was a little bit
06:54of a fairly even exchange.
06:56I like the golem
06:57advantage for Blue
06:57but I think Red
06:58did manage to get
06:59some stuff done down here.
07:00They've really pushed
07:00that top power.
07:01They've got some minions
07:02down here.
07:03There's some siege giants
07:04that if they're protected
07:05which they need to
07:05protect them right now
07:06might be able to do
07:07a significant amount
07:08of damage to that base
07:09as well.
07:10So Red is still
07:11absolutely in this game
07:11even though that battle
07:13for the mines
07:13didn't really go that way
07:14and you can see
07:15in the kills up there
07:15they are struggling
07:16a little bit on the kills
07:17at 8-3
07:18in favor of Blue.
07:20Okay so walk me
07:21through a little bit
07:21of some of the
07:22more basic mechanics
07:23because I mean
07:24every MOBA game
07:24has its rules
07:25about how experience
07:26sharing works
07:27about where the big
07:28chunks of experience are.
07:29Actually maybe we should
07:30wait because the golems
07:31are on the field.
07:32This is pretty significant.
07:32So that golem
07:33is just going to
07:34charge those towns.
07:35He's just going to
07:35honey badger his way
07:36forward and smash
07:36everything he possibly
07:37can that gets in his way.
07:39And so you can see
07:40he's going to blast
07:40his way through these towns
07:41and a big team fight
07:42is going to develop
07:42right here.
07:43We've got a bunch
07:43of battling going on here.
07:44At the same time
07:45those siege giants
07:46are moving to engage
07:46as well so this is
07:48a big advantage
07:49right there for Blue
07:50in that top lane.
07:51In the bottom lane
07:52you can see how much
07:53smaller the Grave Golem
07:54is for Red
07:55and then quickly
07:56Tyrande there
07:56Daybringer is going
07:57to drop that Grave Golem
07:59and really end that threat
08:00while up top
08:01this is going to
08:02likely crack this
08:03front gate.
08:04Man the Blue
08:04is not really protecting
08:05this golem very effectively.
08:07So it looks like
08:07Red's going to
08:09take this down as well
08:10for not a ton
08:10of significant damage.
08:11They took a beating
08:12here but it wasn't
08:13as bad as it could have been.
08:14Well I mean how much
08:14should a team
08:15be focusing on protecting
08:16his own golem
08:17versus destroying
08:18the enemy team's golem?
08:19It really depends
08:20on the scenario
08:20depends on the characters
08:21you have in play
08:22it depends on how much
08:22damage your team
08:23has taken in that
08:24area of the map already.
08:25At this stage
08:26you can really make
08:27some choices.
08:27Later in the game
08:28sometimes the golem
08:29will really force your hand.
08:30You can see a big team fight
08:31is developing up here
08:31in top lane.
08:32The carnage is everywhere
08:33and it looks like
08:35Blue is once again
08:36I don't know
08:36they're backing up
08:37I thought they were
08:37in good position there
08:38based on the damage
08:39but they're all pretty wounded
08:40and with that ultimate
08:41cast by Malfurion
08:42all of this healing
08:43is really kept in this game.
08:44now Malfurion gets hooked
08:45by Stitches
08:45immediate support
08:46coming from everybody
08:47around him
08:48Stitches in a lot
08:49of trouble right there
08:50Starfall coming from
08:51Tyrande doing a lot
08:52of damage as well
08:52ETC trying to get off
08:54his ultimate
08:54doesn't really catch
08:54anybody in it
08:55and Blue and Red
08:56he both lose a hero
08:57in the resulting battle
08:58and Blue
08:59Blue getting absolutely
09:00hammered
09:00so earlier on
09:01it looked like Blue
09:02was doing very well
09:02in the team fight
09:03so you can see
09:03the kills are starting
09:04to even up
09:05but now at 10 kills
09:06for Blue
09:06and 7 kills from Red
09:07from previously
09:08they were down
09:08like by 5 or 6 kills
09:09You know
09:09a lot of these abilities
09:11is the first time
09:12I've ever seen them
09:13but of course
09:13having played a lot
09:14of Warcraft 3
09:14you know
09:15being a big strategy
09:16game where I recognize
09:17a lot of them
09:17just based on the art
09:18I mean how often
09:19are those assets
09:22how important is that
09:22for it to connect
09:23back to the previous franchises
09:24They've so changed
09:25over the years
09:26that we can't use
09:26exactly the same assets
09:27but we're using
09:28the same visual clues
09:29so that you can have
09:30that recognition
09:30between different heroes
09:31so if you've seen
09:32a Starfall
09:33from a Warcraft 3 hero
09:34or whatever
09:34you have a chance
09:35to recognize that
09:36when you get into
09:36the game as well
09:37and we're obviously
09:37trying to make
09:38as much of those
09:38connections as we can
09:40that's Chef Stitches
09:41on the back
09:42of a unicorn
09:43Some kind of
09:44Nyan Cat entry
09:45Yeah exactly
09:46just one of our
09:46classic moments here
09:47in Heroes
09:47it looks like Blue
09:48is getting a little
09:49frisky here
09:49Red wants some
09:50more payback
09:51they've got Stitches
09:51and Tyrael
09:52these are two
09:53very tough
09:53very difficult heroes
09:54to drop
09:54and they do want
09:55to take him out
09:56and there's a retreat
09:56under the mines
09:57for Tyrael
09:58he knows he's in trouble
09:58he's surrounded by
09:59four heroes
09:59he says the heck
10:00with it
10:00I'm going to make
10:01a run through it
10:01for the empty mines
10:02they can chase me
10:03as long as
10:04I draw them away
10:05from the enemy
10:05I'll be in a happy place
10:06so he manages
10:07to get out
10:07of what was
10:08certain death
10:08by using the mines
10:09a really clever
10:10use of that
10:10Red clustered here
10:11very well
10:12it looks like
10:12Malfurion's in a little
10:13trouble
10:13down he goes
10:14from a shot
10:14from Sergeant Hammer
10:15to Ronda running
10:16as well
10:17and Red
10:17really being very
10:18aggressive here
10:18pushing these guys
10:19all the way around
10:20Looks like Tyrael
10:21gets caught down
10:22in the mines
10:22but just makes sure
10:23to fend it off
10:24I mean we're seeing
10:25it looks like
10:25the Red team
10:27stay together
10:27most of the time
10:28I mean typically
10:29we see in most MOBAs
10:30I mean how fast
10:31are we
10:32how far into the game
10:33are we at this point
10:33like just
10:348-10 minutes or so
10:36yeah something like that
10:36we used to have a clock
10:37but we don't have it
10:37working in observer mode
10:38right now
10:39but we're still
10:39very early in this game
10:40the whole thing
10:40will probably be over
10:41by 20-25 minutes
10:42at the outside
10:43I've had like
10:43one 35 minute game
10:45in the internal alpha
10:45that's extremely rare
10:47so the games
10:48are very very quick
10:48oh wow
10:49that's a lot of trouble
10:49for Tyrande right there
10:50she's getting
10:51protected by Tyrael
10:52with that shield
10:53but you see
10:53those two tanks
10:54really want some
10:54blood off
10:55there goes the starfall
10:56down she goes
10:57here comes ETC
10:58into the fight
10:59one starfall
11:00you know I mean
11:01we're seeing so many
11:02more team fights
11:03than what you typically
11:05see in almost
11:05any other existing MOBA
11:07I mean
11:08obviously on a two lane map
11:09it's much easier
11:10to rejoin together
11:11so we're not going to be able
11:11to play on it today
11:12because it's still
11:12back under construction
11:13you see the mines are up
11:14and again
11:14there's a lot of action
11:15going on here
11:15if you're looking at
11:16you know a map
11:17like Dragonshire
11:18where you need to control
11:19all three lanes
11:20simultaneously
11:21to get the benefit
11:21of the map mechanic
11:22you see a lot fewer
11:23team fights
11:24you see the players
11:24really splitting up
11:25and that's the point
11:26of that map
11:26oh this is the perm cloaking
11:27that you were telling me about
11:28that is the perm cloaking
11:28he didn't really notice
11:30it was coming
11:30it was difficult to see
11:31in the mines
11:31and he's really going to play
11:35remember from his famous days
11:37on Starcraft
11:39and down he goes
11:40just a little bit
11:41of trouble right there
11:41that's not the battle
11:42engagement he wanted
11:43to have right there
11:43and this is a critical time
11:44for them to lose
11:45and he's one of the
11:46stronger players
11:46and he can be very effective
11:48down there in the mines
11:48you can see the skull count
11:49is very even
11:50on both these players
11:51right now
11:51and as in the mines
11:52you can see there
11:53is some gathering
11:53of players
11:54blue has got position
11:55right there
11:55on that final golem
11:56to get the bulk
11:57of the skulls
11:57but red is starting
11:58to stream in a little bit
11:59here so I don't know
12:00if control of that boss
12:01is very clear
12:02at this point
12:03red now with significant
12:04advantage in the mines
12:05three players to two
12:06down in the mines
12:07and now all of blue
12:09dropped down to the mines
12:10and it seemed like
12:10I mean is there
12:11strategy here
12:12the fact that they've
12:12lost these two
12:13this set of towers
12:14and forts up at the
12:15north end to try to
12:16make up for it
12:16by getting a huge golem
12:18yeah they're going to
12:18want to get the biggest
12:19golem they can possibly
12:20get at this point
12:20to really push
12:21and they're moving in here
12:22is it just stitches
12:23it is the mini map
12:24we actually need to
12:25make this mini map larger
12:25it's very difficult
12:26for Sean and I
12:27to tell what's going on
12:28again this is one of
12:28the feedback we've had
12:29from an internal alpha
12:30and I'm sure you guys
12:31at home would say
12:31the same thing
12:32it's difficult to see
12:33what's happening
12:33in that mini map
12:33but it looks like
12:34stitches
12:35is he going to try
12:35to solo death
12:36it looks like he is
12:37there's a team fight
12:38developing up
12:38stitches has the ability
12:39with his devour
12:40to really get a lot
12:42of health back
12:42from the enemy unit
12:43but I don't think
12:44he's got the firepower
12:45to necessarily engage
12:46a fully functional
12:46golem like that
12:47maybe he'll get some
12:48support a little bit
12:49later on
12:49looks like Witch Doctor
12:50in a little bit of
12:51trouble here
12:51taking a little bit
12:52of beating
12:52from Sergeant Ember
12:53oh there's the
12:53long range shot
12:54from Tyranna
12:54just barely misses
12:55and Tyrael gets the kill
12:57ETC came for the
12:58rescue
12:58and now a little bit
12:58of trouble
12:59but ETC's pretty mobile
13:00I expect him to
13:01get out of there
13:01safely
13:01let's see what's
13:02going on down
13:02in the mines
13:03with stitches
13:04he's still dancing
13:05with this grey gob
13:06making it work
13:06dodging all those
13:07abilities
13:08really struggling
13:09this is a long time
13:09for stitches to be
13:10out of action
13:10but you know what
13:11he's managed to
13:11pull it off
13:12and get a solo
13:12kill in that golem
13:13that's a huge
13:14huge benefit
13:15for the team
13:15even though it
13:15did take him
13:16out of action
13:16for a long
13:17period of time
13:17look at all
13:18those skulls
13:19huge
13:19as the golems
13:21are summoning
13:21walk me through
13:22a little bit
13:23of like how
13:23the XP sharing
13:24worked
13:24we asked that
13:25like right as
13:25they were summoning
13:26last time
13:30the XP for the
13:30team
13:30which goes in
13:31towards your
13:31team level
13:32so you really
13:33want to try to
13:33have people
13:34everywhere on the
13:35map that
13:36the XP can be
13:37earned
13:37you want to
13:37have at least
13:38one person
13:38in every lane
13:39if you can
13:40manage it
13:40and you want
13:41to have
13:41some people
13:42maybe going
13:42out and grabbing
13:43some of the
13:43mercenary
13:43to get some
13:44additional XP
13:45but one person
13:45in each lane
13:46is sort of
13:46the minimum
13:47requirement
13:48in order to
13:49make it
13:50function
13:51obviously when
13:51the team
13:51fights are
13:52happening
13:52it's not
13:52worth it
13:53to keep
13:53one person
13:53in each lane
13:53it's just
13:54too dangerous
13:54there's the
13:55grave golem
13:55popping up
13:59there's
14:00beating going
14:00down on both
14:01teams
14:01nobody quite
14:01dropped yet
14:02but blue
14:03in a lot
14:03of trouble
14:04look at all
14:04those engine
14:05heroes running
14:05for their lives
14:05there goes
14:06somebody
14:07two heroes
14:08down at this
14:08point
14:09man it's just
14:09a bloodbath
14:10as that
14:10grave golem
14:11I think he's
14:12going to drop
14:12that thing
14:13very successful
14:13at this point
14:14there's a little
14:14tiny grave
14:14golem over here
14:15he's going to
14:16do some damage
14:17and I think
14:17he will drop
14:18that town as
14:18well
14:19but that town
14:19was in a lot
14:20worse shape
14:20than his top
14:21town is
14:21so I mean
14:22the grave golem
14:23is just for
14:24pushing these
14:24towers
14:25they don't actually
14:25ever engage
14:26other heroes
14:26they put some
14:27area effects
14:27around them
14:28that can hurt
14:29other heroes
14:29pretty significantly
14:29but no
14:30their primary
14:31focus is
14:32the towers
14:32they will just
14:33sort of charge
14:33the nearest tower
14:34and start beating
14:34on it as fast
14:35as they can
14:35I also got
14:36really excited
14:36when I found
14:37the starcraft
14:38observer button
14:38still worked
14:39oh god
14:39please don't crash
14:41I'm just living
14:42in fear
14:42whenever Sean
14:43hits another button
14:44I just die
14:45a little bit more
14:45inside
14:45I hope it doesn't
14:46go down
14:47I really feel
14:48like my purpose
14:48here in this
14:50cast is to
14:50be as dumb
14:51as Paul
14:51what are these
14:52buttons doing
14:53to rake
14:53the keyboard
14:55I lose years
14:56off of my life
14:56from this one
14:57shoutcat
14:57so I mean
14:58this is also
14:59a mechanic
14:59I'm unfamiliar
15:00with
15:00the idea of
15:01you kill these
15:02and then they
15:03join in
15:03on pushing lanes
15:04so all of our
15:05the game is very
15:06team focused
15:07so everything you're
15:07doing in the jungle
15:08everything you're
15:09doing in the lanes
15:10for the most part
15:10is focused on
15:12trying to help
15:13your team achieve
15:14victory
15:14there's not a lot
15:15of selfish things
15:16that you can do
15:16in this game
15:17where you're trying
15:17to do things
15:17to make yourself
15:18more powerful
15:19you're always
15:19trying to do
15:20things to help
15:20your team win
15:21the game
15:22so you want to
15:22focus on teamwork
15:23focus on what
15:24your group needs
15:24to be effective
15:25and so it can be
15:25a very strategic
15:26game
15:26in the sense
15:27if you do the
15:27wrong thing
15:28at the wrong time
15:28you may not be
15:29helping your team
15:29at all
15:29you may be
15:31wasting valuable
15:31precious time
15:32one fifth of your
15:33team may be
15:33in the wrong place
15:34at the wrong time
15:34so we found
15:35that communication
15:36on these teams
15:36is really really
15:37important
15:37and that teams
15:38you really want
15:39to group up
15:39with your friends
15:39to play this game
15:40it's the most
15:40powerful way
15:41to enjoy the
15:41experience
15:43there's
15:43some TC leaping
15:44into battle
15:44every single
15:45red hero
15:45just lined up
15:47starfall
15:48I can recognize
15:49that from a mile
15:50away
15:50doing some work
15:51in mid
15:51yeah this is
15:52absolutely going to be
15:52a huge huge team
15:54fight at this point
15:54and as red
15:55you can see red's
15:56got all these
15:57mercenaries pushing
15:58and they're taking
15:59an absolute bloodbath
16:00here in the middle
16:01it looks like
16:02it's fairly even
16:02on kills
16:03there's two down
16:04now for blue
16:05red doing very well
16:06malfurion in a lot
16:07of trouble
16:07there goes malfurion
16:08down as well
16:09you can see at the
16:09top left and right
16:10side of the screens
16:11the pictures of all
16:12of the heroes
16:12with their timers
16:14death timers up
16:15as well
16:15so it is three on
16:16three right now
16:16but it looks like
16:17it's about to be
16:18soon to be two on
16:18two
16:18yeah exactly
16:19as another hero
16:20goes down
16:21and blue in a little
16:22bit of trouble
16:22look at those
16:23mercenaries pressing
16:24in
16:24remember early
16:25in the game
16:25it didn't look like
16:26I was feeling a little
16:27bit worried about red
16:28they were losing
16:28they lost that
16:29first team fight
16:29they lost that
16:30first grave bomb
16:31and now they are
16:32right back in this
16:33really knocking on
16:33the front door
16:34in both lanes
16:35I mean it almost
16:35seems like a
16:36whack-a-mole
16:37I mean it's not
16:37just centered around
16:38the team fight
16:39because it looked
16:40like red took
16:41a pretty sick beating
16:42but they were
16:43focusing on the
16:44mercenaries first
16:44so those seem to
16:45do a lot of work
16:45independently of the
16:46heroes
16:47is that actually
16:48accurate?
16:48absolutely accurate
16:49the strategy is so
16:50important in this game
16:50where to go
16:51and there's a lot
16:51of misdirections
16:52you can do
16:52and there's enough
16:53mechanics on the
16:54maps that you can
16:55often pull off
16:56a surprise victory
16:57you can often
16:57get into a position
16:58where the enemy
16:58didn't expect you
16:59and do something
16:59they weren't prepared
17:00for
17:00it looks like
17:00Gazel's a little bit
17:01of trouble
17:01there
17:01down he goes
17:02here comes
17:02ETC jumping in
17:03to try to help
17:04out his buddy
17:04he's a little
17:04late to the party
17:05he's going to
17:06face a three-on-two
17:06situation as he
17:07and Arthas
17:08get out of there
17:08it looks like
17:09Witch Doctor was
17:10trying to make it in
17:11but she was a little
17:11late as well
17:12and so they're
17:12forced to pull back
17:13and now we've got
17:14mines spawning again
17:15now this is
17:16this is it guys
17:17this is the critical
17:17battle
17:18blue has lost
17:19the paint job
17:20on their front towers
17:21red has still got
17:23their bottom tower
17:24but their top tower
17:24is gone
17:25and this grave golem
17:27could be the
17:27absolutely determining
17:28battle
17:29red sending a bunch
17:30of guys to the mines
17:31they are committed
17:32they believe the mines
17:33is the way to go
17:33to win this game
17:34and I'm not sure
17:35that they're wrong
17:36blue has only
17:36it looks like
17:37only got Nova
17:38in the mines to me
17:38blue a little
17:39indecisive here
17:40about what they're doing
17:41really a watchtower
17:42I don't think that's
17:42really as important
17:43at this point
17:43as everything else
17:44that's going on
17:44and it looks like
17:45blue is going to
17:45lose Nova as well
17:46so now they're down
17:47a hero for what I
17:48would think is
17:48the critical battle
17:49of this match
17:50to determine who
17:51wins this game
17:51and blue is sending
17:52some more people
17:52into the mines
17:53this engagement
17:54in the mines
17:54if and when it comes
17:55is probably going
17:56to be the deciding
17:57point for this game
17:57I mean as soon as
17:58we're talking about
17:59with the importance
17:59of keeping the team
18:00together we see
18:01blue getting a little
18:02spread out here
18:03or now some of the
18:04red heroes getting
18:05a little spread out
18:05and getting punished
18:06so quickly for it
18:07there's witch doctor
18:08using his ultimate ability
18:09that ghost does a ton
18:10of damage
18:10and chases people
18:11around with it
18:11you can just trash
18:12people with their
18:13star four pounding away
18:14Arthas trying to get
18:15some work done here
18:15he's in a little bit
18:16of trouble
18:16he does manage to
18:17chase off those
18:18three heroes
18:18incredible
18:19just want to take
18:20a beating from Arthas
18:21I guess when he
18:21popped his ultimate
18:22they just didn't
18:23feel safe
18:23red still down here
18:24in force
18:25a little beat up
18:26from the battle
18:27blue down
18:28two critical heroes
18:29right now
18:29and they're going to
18:30go directly for the
18:31golem
18:31I like this move
18:32a lot
18:32they know that later
18:33on those heroes
18:34are going to be
18:34respawning
18:34and they don't want
18:35to be playing
18:36clean up there
18:36on the golem
18:37while they're
18:38trying to engage
18:38in a battle
18:38but I know
18:39they've got the
18:39advantage now
18:39so let's make use
18:40of it
18:40so you know
18:41in a lot of
18:41the other MOBAs
18:42even though the
18:42heroes are very
18:43different from each
18:44other
18:45there's a lot
18:45of those tenants
18:46that sort of
18:46they abide by
18:47when making
18:48new heroes
18:49here
18:50I'm wondering
18:51what some of
18:52the general
18:52cooldowns are
18:53on the abilities
18:54because that'll
18:54obviously dictate
18:55how often you can
18:56engage in battle
18:56if ultimates
18:57recharged quickly
18:58or not
18:58it depends on the
18:58ultimates
18:58we have a choice
18:59of ultimates
18:59for our players
19:00you can choose
19:00between one or two
19:01different ultimates
19:01when we get in
19:02we're probably
19:02adding more
19:03ultimates as we
19:03go forward
19:04some of the
19:04ultimates are
19:05very spammable
19:05some of the
19:06ultimates might
19:06be even a 10
19:07or 15 second
19:07cooldown
19:08but in many
19:09cases they're
19:09more like a
19:1060 to 70
19:10to 80 second
19:11cooldown
19:11so that means
19:13you really got
19:13to pick your
19:13moment when you
19:14want to use
19:14those abilities
19:15and some of
19:16them can be
19:16very impactful
19:17I mean that's
19:18short in a
19:18general sense
19:19but given a
19:2020 minute game
19:20you've still got
19:21to pick your
19:22moment
19:22you're going to
19:22get to do it
19:23maybe 8 times
19:24at critical
19:25moments over the
19:25course
19:26maybe sometimes
19:266
19:27and there's
19:28Matt Cooper
19:29balance designer
19:29they're picking
19:30off some
19:30oh god
19:315 to 75
19:33yeah this is
19:34going to be
19:34rough
19:34the red has
19:35got serious
19:36advantage
19:36this is going
19:36to be really
19:37difficult for blue
19:37now blue has
19:38grabbed a mercenary
19:39mechanic and they
19:40want to try to
19:40get some work
19:41done here
19:41I mean like
19:42what hope does
19:43blue have in
19:43this position
19:44because I mean
19:44it really depends
19:46on the next
19:46team fight
19:47right
19:47we had a little
19:48bit of a burp
19:48there
19:48I'm glad it
19:49didn't crash
19:49I almost died
19:50there for a moment
19:51it really depends
19:52on the next
19:53team fight
19:53and what happens
19:54obviously you know
19:55red's in a
19:56clear situation
19:57advantage
19:57they've done
19:58their homework
19:58and they've got
19:59a position
19:59where they're
20:00happy
20:00so it's going
20:01to be
20:02any move
20:03you're going
20:03to see from
20:03blue at this
20:04point is going
20:04to be a little
20:05bit desperate
20:05they're going
20:06to have to
20:06sort of go
20:06for a little
20:07bit of an
20:07all-in kind
20:07of play
20:08and there's
20:09choices that
20:09they can make
20:10we've seen
20:10some crazy
20:10strategies
20:11like just
20:11kind of ignore
20:12what's going
20:12on in the
20:12lanes
20:13try to get
20:13as many
20:13mercenaries
20:14as possible
20:14we've seen
20:14strategies
20:15involving
20:15on other maps
20:16critical grave
20:17golems
20:17you can capture
20:18them and do
20:18stuff
20:18we've sometimes
20:19seen base
20:20race scenarios
20:20where you
20:20literally hide
20:21out near the
20:21enemy base
20:22wait for them
20:22to go to yours
20:23and then charge
20:23in as fast
20:24as you can
20:24and see if
20:25you can get
20:25some damage
20:25done
20:25but I think
20:26you're going
20:26to see
20:28if blue's
20:28going to pull
20:29it out at
20:29this point
20:29it's going
20:29to be an
20:30act of
20:30desperation
20:30or they're
20:31going to get
20:32clever and
20:33they're going
20:33to win
20:33this next
20:33team battle
20:34as that sad
20:34sad little
20:35golem charges
20:36into battle
20:36there
20:37I think
20:37you may be
20:37able to drop
20:38that tower
20:38this is the
20:39critical golem
20:39it's freaking
20:40huge
20:41and you see
20:41they're popping
20:42cooldowns on
20:42these things
20:43they're using
20:43ultimate abilities
20:44anything they
20:44can think of
20:45to drop
20:45this thing
20:45before it's
20:46too late
20:46red
20:47really trying
20:48to I don't
20:48know if I
20:49quite like
20:49this but we'll
20:49see how it
20:50pays off
20:50for them
20:50they're going
20:50to grab
20:50a mercenary
20:51camp here
20:51in the middle
20:52and try to
20:52push for it
20:53but I think
20:53their timing
20:54was a little
20:54bit off
20:54I think
20:55they really
20:55wanted to
20:55be supported
20:56that golem
20:56and I think
20:56they would
20:57have won
20:57at this
20:57point
20:58but they
20:58chose
20:58instead
20:59to grab
20:59the mercenary
21:00camp
21:00I think
21:00by the time
21:01those mercenaries
21:01show up
21:02that tower
21:03is going
21:03to be dead
21:03but you're
21:04also going
21:04to see
21:05that their
21:06golem
21:06is going
21:06to be gone
21:07now both
21:08teams are
21:08level 20
21:09I believe
21:09at this
21:09point
21:10this is
21:10level 19
21:11for blue
21:11that's a
21:12critical
21:12difference
21:12this is
21:13a huge
21:14loss
21:14there's a
21:15special
21:15talent
21:15that comes
21:16along
21:16now they're
21:17both level
21:1720
21:17called the
21:18storm's
21:18abilities
21:18and they're
21:19incredibly
21:19powerful
21:19and it's
21:20a breakpoint
21:20in the
21:20talent tree
21:21so you'll
21:21see players
21:21when you
21:22cross that
21:22breakpoint
21:23try to get
21:23something done
21:23in the few
21:24seconds or
21:24minute they
21:25might have
21:26with that
21:26talent
21:26advantage
21:27is 20
21:28the max
21:29level
21:2920 is not
21:30the max
21:30we do up
21:30to 25
21:31that breakpoint
21:32is absolutely
21:33critical
21:33red's just
21:34trying to get
21:34the mercenary
21:34camp so they
21:35can hopefully
21:35win this game
21:36with a big
21:36push
21:37and it looks
21:38like the
21:38teams are
21:39even
21:39the kills
21:40are fairly
21:40close
21:41it's just
21:41so much
21:42damage has
21:42been done
21:42to blue's
21:43base
21:43at this
21:43point
21:43and they
21:43didn't
21:44manage
21:44red
21:44did not
21:44get anything
21:45done
21:45with that
21:45brave
21:46golem
21:46red
21:47very well
21:47clustered
21:48ready for
21:48the big
21:48fight
21:49blue
21:49in position
21:50if they
21:51want
21:51it
21:51there's
21:51Warfield
21:53trying to
21:54engage
21:55everybody's
21:55looking for
21:56the right
21:56angle
21:56stitches
21:57trying to
21:57look
21:57frisky
21:57there
21:57etc
21:58charging in
21:59he takes
21:59quite a beating
22:00for it
22:00but there's
22:00enough support
22:01in here
22:01I don't think
22:01it's really
22:02going to matter
22:02Arthas
22:03really up front
22:04closing in on
22:04Tyrande
22:05he does get
22:05the hit off
22:06it looks like
22:07there's a
22:07great ultimate
22:08being used
22:09there to
22:09chase off
22:09Tyrande
22:10and down
22:10goes Tyrande
22:11as well
22:12killed by
22:13the Witch Doctor
22:14there is a
22:15triple tap
22:15down goes
22:16etc as well
22:17two heroes
22:17down
22:18now for
22:19red
22:19blue in a
22:20pretty good
22:20position at
22:21this point
22:22they are a
22:22little beat up
22:23there's a
22:23great hook
22:24it looks like
22:25in a lot
22:25of trouble
22:25uses his
22:26ice block
22:26to survive
22:27but he's
22:27not going
22:27to get
22:27him out
22:27of time
22:28there's
22:28nobody
22:28to come
22:28to help
22:29and that
22:30was the
22:30engagement
22:30we were
22:31talking about
22:31that's
22:31exactly
22:32what
22:32needed to
22:33happen
22:33they needed
22:34not to lose
22:34any too many
22:34heroes
22:35here
22:35they're down
22:35two
22:35they don't
22:36want to lose
22:36any more
22:36trying to pick
22:37off this
22:37one hero
22:38so I mean
22:38if we relate
22:39what just
22:39happened back
22:40to the mechanics
22:41of the map
22:41it seemed
22:42like red
22:42had a really
22:43huge opportunity
22:44with the golem
22:44that once upon
22:45a time was
22:45here but they
22:46abandoned it
22:46to do a huge
22:47minion push
22:48in this top
22:49lane with all
22:50five heroes
22:50now what is it
22:51that one team
22:53blew in that
22:53fight
22:54was it just
22:55positioning
22:55is it the fact
22:56the tower was
22:56also there
22:57or is it just
22:57general
22:58the tower was
22:58a huge advantage
22:59no question
22:59the towers
23:00and the minions
23:00were definitely
23:01to their advantage
23:02whenever you're
23:02fighting in
23:02somebody's base
23:03you're always
23:03going to be
23:03a little bit
23:04weaker than
23:04you were
23:04otherwise
23:05and so
23:05they had
23:06that position
23:07and they used
23:07it
23:07I think their
23:08engagements
23:08were solid
23:09I think they
23:09picked off
23:09the right heroes
23:10at the right
23:10time
23:11and they managed
23:11to get done
23:11and they needed
23:11to get done
23:12now here's the
23:13danger right
23:13now they've got
23:14three wounded
23:15heroes closing
23:15in I'm not sure
23:16what they're going
23:17to try to accomplish
23:17here I mean
23:18obviously they're
23:18tough enough
23:19at this point
23:19that the towns
23:20aren't super
23:20dangerous to them
23:21and they're going
23:21to try to push
23:22through this base
23:23but red is
23:24respawning right
23:25they're right back
23:25in now Sergeant
23:26Hammer there
23:27can do some damage
23:28here comes ETC
23:28and they just
23:29wrecked their day
23:30I think they're
23:31going to lose
23:31a few critical
23:32heroes here
23:32Stitches getting
23:33absolutely crushed
23:34devour off there
23:35ETC a little bit
23:36of trouble
23:36and as too many
23:40will soon be down
23:41Tyrael is running
23:42for his life
23:42there's a big blast
23:43from Gazlow
23:44who drops him
23:45wonderfully done
23:45he does have
23:46his storm power
23:46so he will resurrect
23:48immediately
23:48but he can't do
23:48that again
23:49very quickly
23:50Blue is getting
23:51beat on back
23:51in their base
23:52right now
23:52we can hear it
23:53through the audio
23:53as they're battling
23:54it out here
23:55in the top lane
23:56honestly I thought
23:57they won that team
23:57fight it put them
23:58in great position
23:59and they are still
23:59in this game
24:00but I kind of wish
24:00Blue would have
24:01the opportunity
24:01to make a little
24:02bit more of that
24:03temporary advantage
24:03they had
24:04all five red heroes
24:05down admittedly
24:06three of them
24:06were pretty beat up
24:07at the time
24:08but I was hoping
24:08they could get
24:09more done with that
24:09now they're right
24:10back kind of
24:10where they're at
24:11with red
24:12back in the game
24:13still with the
24:14advantage in the lanes
24:15still with a
24:16not with a new
24:17Grave Golem of course
24:17but their Grave Golem
24:18will respawn
24:18where it died
24:19so it's going to
24:19respawn pretty much
24:20right next to the core
24:21and here goes red
24:22finally coming in
24:23and pushing out
24:24that castle
24:24they wanted to kill
24:25in that first attack
24:26so right now
24:26the haunted mines
24:27are open
24:27but it looks like
24:28red has just decided
24:28we're going to
24:29abandon that
24:30this is the opportunity
24:30that we feel like
24:31we had before
24:32yeah the core
24:33is so vulnerable
24:33at this point
24:34there's the ultimate
24:35from Witch Doctor
24:35trying to chase
24:36off the heroes
24:36you can see
24:37the area effect
24:37from that ability
24:38is so significant
24:39the core is absolutely
24:40taking a beating
24:41the heroes do so much
24:42damage at this point
24:42in the game
24:43you really need to
24:43control the area
24:44on your base
24:44I don't think
24:45there's anything
24:45they can do
24:46just right click core
24:47and that is GG
24:48the end
24:49well done team red
24:50blue you had a chance
24:51for a minute
24:52and you made it
24:52glorious and great
24:53but in the end
24:54red pulls it out
24:55yeah I mean like
24:56now in terms of
24:58local strategy
24:59versus global strategy
25:00like there was a lot
25:01of moments
25:02where you're saying
25:02oh you know
25:03this is a good
25:03opportunity to go
25:04for the Grave Golem
25:05I don't know
25:05this is a time
25:05when they need
25:06to cluster together
25:06and go for a team fight
25:07but if we had to
25:08describe like
25:10how red played
25:10in that game
25:11how do you describe
25:12games with these
25:13like really unusual maps
25:14do you say like
25:14oh they're doing
25:15a very Grave Golem
25:16focused strategy
25:17I think that would
25:17be a legitimate
25:18way to describe it
25:19honestly we need
25:19more guys like you
25:20in a chance
25:21with the build
25:22to make words up
25:22to make words up
25:23and tell us how
25:24this works
25:24we didn't make up
25:24how Starcraft was cast
25:25that was made up
25:26by our community
25:26but I mean like
25:27is this game
25:29more about fluid
25:30on the fly decisions
25:31or do you see
25:32compositions constructed
25:33to specifically go
25:34for the Grave Golem
25:35not yet we don't
25:35but you can probably
25:36expect down the road
25:37that you win
25:37we just don't know
25:38we haven't had
25:39that breadth of play
25:40but right now
25:41it's very fluid
25:42it's very much about
25:42reading the board
25:44knowing who's alive
25:44and who's not
25:45what powers do we have
25:46in play
25:46and making the right
25:47sort of judgment call
25:49as to where to proceed
25:50so it's a very fluid
25:51very creative
25:52strategic experience
25:52right now
25:53obviously the community
25:54studies the game
25:55where I think you'll see
25:55a more intense experience
25:56where it's more known
25:57it's more math based
25:58it's more understood
25:59but right now
26:00right now it's very fluid
26:01and very intuitive
26:03now I hope I wasn't
26:04making this up
26:05but it seemed like
26:06the team red's abilities
26:07were generally
26:08a little bit more red hued
26:09and the blue team's
26:10abilities were
26:11a little bit more blue hued
26:12I don't know
26:12if we have a ton of that
26:12and we have some of that
26:13going on right now
26:14and we need to work
26:14on the clarity
26:15obviously a lot more
26:16I mean obviously
26:16you may have been
26:17looking at that
26:17and going oh I hope
26:18Dustin knows
26:18what he's talking about
26:19because right now
26:20there is a lot of noise
26:21going on on that screen
26:21and that's something
26:22I'm not going to make up
26:23what the abilities are
26:23but if you want me to do
26:24I totally can
26:25but there's a lot of
26:26noise in the abilities
26:27right now
26:27and this is something
26:27we're continuing to work
26:28on going forward
26:28trying to make the game
26:29as clean and readable
26:30as possible
26:31awesome
26:32well hey thanks for
26:32casting with us
26:33Dave that was an absolute
26:34blast
26:34it was a pleasure
26:35to do my first ever
26:36here's the storm cast
26:37with you Dustin
26:38because you know
26:39everything that actually
26:39happens in the game
26:40because you made it
26:41hey thanks everybody
26:42for watching us today
26:43we hope you enjoyed
26:43this cast
26:44and we will bring you
26:45many many more to come
26:46in the weeks
26:47and months coming forward
26:48thank you
26:48cheers