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00:02So we're going to go to our phone lines live here. Hi, you're live on the air. Do you have
00:06a question or a comment for Johan or David? Isn't this exciting? My dad has wanted this
00:12for years. Okay, I got an old house right here. There is a blue structure here that is about the
00:17size of what you would expect a privy hole to be. My connection, I think, is I have relatives here.
00:24If these holes represent the three boulders on top of that hill, we need to look under the
00:29middle boulder. We're also very much on the hunt of a story called Curse of the Viking
00:33Grave. We found the grave. Come on, have a look here. You're going to like this.
01:17We've got my friends from Canada. Welcome, guys. We got a chance to talk yesterday.
01:23The Faraheim team is in Alexandria, Minnesota, to examine the infamous Kensington runestone.
01:31They are guests of a local radio station to talk about their research and see if any residents
01:36have their own relics to share. So we, for about a decade now, have been looking for traces
01:44and artifacts of European, specifically Icelandic, Greenland exploration between 1000 AD and when
01:51Chris showed up in 1492. 500 years after the first proven settlement in Newfoundland, Alainso
01:58Meadows, conventional archaeology, anthropology would say there wasn't a lot of other activity.
02:04So to think that after coming to North America in 1021, nobody showed up for another 500 years,
02:11it's almost unbelievable. In fact, it's not even reasonable. But we're also very much
02:15on the hunt of a story that's been circulating in Canada for a long time called Curse of the
02:19Viking Grave. The Faraheim team seeks the truth behind whether Norse or Scandinavian settlers
02:26were here in the 1300s. Well before Christopher Columbus, they also believe that Norse travelers
02:33in the 1800s were unknowingly following in their ancestors' footsteps to North America.
02:40So what you're doing, David, you're here in the area, you're opening up, wanting people in the
02:47area who have any artifacts or even any stories about the Vikings, things they found that could
02:54maybe connect the dots too, right? We are asking people for their stories and anything that they've
02:59found that they don't know what it is. You're going to be at the Fairfield Inn and Suites in Alexandria,
03:05and you're encouraging people to drop by tomorrow night from 7 to 9, right, if they have any stories,
03:12any artifacts. And if you have stories or artifacts, please, please share. So we really wanted to get a
03:18local and maybe even have an event to get people to come on down and bring their stuff, like antique
03:24roadshows, like bring your artifacts down, let's take a look. And so we're really looking forward to
03:29seeing what the locals know. Alexandria was established in 1858, though the area was already
03:38home to the Dakota people for centuries. It soon became a new home for Scandinavian people.
03:44There is a story that I've heard for a decade that 50 to 100 years ago, and you see how
03:50these
03:50stories go. Someone got so mad about being dissed about the Kensington runestone artifacts, they took
03:57a bunch of artifacts and threw them down their outhouse. Wow. So what if that old outhouse is
04:02gone, then can you tell this is where it used to be? Yes. Listeners call in to talk with David
04:08and Joe.
04:10So we're going to go to our phone lines live here. Hi, you're live on the air. Do you have
04:14a
04:14question or comment for Johan or David? Our neighbor has a mooring stone. Oh, interesting.
04:20Yeah, boy. Very interested in coming to have a look and chatting with you about them. This is
04:25fascinating to hear, Johan and David. Yeah, they're a couple of great guys. You'd love them too.
04:32Already they feel like family here, so. Are they interested in in-place mooring stones that have
04:38never been moved? Sure. Send us information and let's talk. Thanks, Johan. Thanks, David. This is great.
04:43I'm glad he could be in studio. The next night at their hotel, Joe and David speak with dozens
04:49of residents sharing their own theories and stories. Isn't this exciting?
04:59Who are you talking to? There's nobody there. Oh, let me, let me answer that for you. Yes,
05:06it is. Okay. So my grandma was the town historian, and we've just always known about the rune stone,
05:15of course, because grandma was born in 1912. I have been following and researching sort of off and on
05:22about the Kensington rune stone since I was 13 years old in 1959. It's one of those things where
05:29the rune stone was, it was a forbidden topic for many, many years in Kensington. The Kensington rune stone
05:37was discovered by Olaf Ohlmann on his farm in 1898. The runic writing suggests explorers from
05:44Scandinavian countries journeyed to what is now Alexandria in 1362. Despite years of research and debate,
05:53there is still no definitive conclusion on the stone's authenticity. And there was a family that
06:00lived right here at the end of this road. He wrote a story about the Ohlmann family, I think,
06:07that he interviewed two of the Ohlmann family members for his term paper. And they both said
06:15that they were so sorry their dad had ever found that stone.
06:19But the fact that he owned that story from the moment he found it and never wavered ever and none
06:25of his family did either really makes me believe that it is real. Like, as much as someone thinks
06:30it's a hoax, that's a pretty elaborate hoax to basically ruin your family for for generations.
06:36At some point, you'd think you'd just tell people it was fake if it was actually fake. They never did.
06:41Mm-hmm. Because it led to nothing but ridicule and grief for the family for the rest of their lives.
06:49Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The controversy hasn't stopped residents from continuing to look for evidence
06:54that supports the Kensington runestone. We found the grave of the ten men.
07:00You're absolutely certain, and why are you certain? I am so certain on this.
07:07The grave site that Wayne is referring to seemingly connects to a translated line on the stone.
07:14Ten men, red with blood. But you've got to not make it public.
07:23Okay. Close the door!
07:25Close the door!
07:26Lock the door! No one's going home!
07:30Is this the Kensington Runestone Park?
07:33Yeah. This is just north of the park. I had this aerial photograph of the property here, 1965.
07:39You know, it's just an empty field. And then I looked at the 1951 one.
07:45Mm-hmm. And what's in the middle of that field?
07:48Well, it's a shadow of some sort.
07:49It's a clump of trees. Yeah.
07:52And why wasn't it taken out?
07:56Because there was a grave underneath.
07:59Well, if that is true, that guy can find it in about ten minutes.
08:05Mark Harris from OKM Detectors is a ground-penetrating radar, or GPR expert,
08:12that is working with the team in Minnesota.
08:16Is that the highest value site that you think we should look at to definitively find something like a grave?
08:24If I was betting money, it would be a sure bet.
08:27Okay. Okay. Get your money out.
08:29Okay.
08:31The event is a success.
08:33There are new leads that the team would not have found any other way.
08:38Sitting down with people is important to build trust.
08:41There's lots of information out there.
08:43And sitting down with them lets me understand what they know and who they are and what they have
08:50to see if it's worth the time to follow up on their leads.
08:55I'm looking forward to tomorrow's park visit more than anything because my dad has wanted this for years.
09:04He has just, if only we could see underneath the ground.
09:09The next day, the team arrives at the Kensington Runestone Park and is joined by Ralph, a local resident.
09:16We're looking forward to you showing us some of your research and the maps,
09:19and we've got some really good guys with technology coming today that will either make your day
09:24or make you a very sad Ralph Gunnarsson.
09:26Well, we will find out very shortly.
09:28Ralph has been exploring this park area for years, and most often with a witching rod.
09:35And so he had witching rods.
09:38He had basically learned about everything in the park through his witching rods.
09:42Okay, so now what we'll do is go and ask the runestone where it was actually found.
09:51And the stick says right here, right at this point.
09:55And there was a tree that they kept over, and it was in the roots of the tree.
10:00Well, we've got Mark from OKM here with some great technology.
10:05A GPR, I think, will work really well here.
10:08Witching rods, it's an interesting technique to find things,
10:13but we are definitely using technology to then understand what's under the ground.
10:19The forked stick or rod is utilized with the user's intuition to detect minerals, water, and other buried items, including
10:28bodies.
10:29The team eagerly gets to work examining this potential site.
10:34While Ralph uses dousing rods, Mark follows his path, using his GPR equipment.
10:39Well, listen, let's get at it.
10:41Okay, now I'll show you where the action took place.
10:47Ralph relays other locations he believes have ancient items, people, and even a Viking ship buried.
10:57Okay, now if you stand here and you look here at the rock, you see where it's raised up there?
11:03Yes.
11:04Okay, there's 14 Mandant Indians buried, or we call it mounded.
11:10Okay, are they all in a row? Are they on top of each other?
11:13Two rows of seven.
11:14Two rows of seven.
11:16So one, two this way?
11:17Yep.
11:18And you see where that tree is there?
11:20Yep.
11:20From there to the rock.
11:22Okay.
11:23There's 14 Mandant Indians.
11:25David, Joe, and Mark discuss the best way to proceed with the GPR.
11:31Ralph shows Mackenzie some key areas of the park that might be of interest to the team.
11:37So was this all underwater at one point?
11:41Yep, I'll show you right where the water line was.
11:43Okay.
11:46Okay, here is the saltwater line of 1362.
11:50Wow.
11:51Lake Agassiz was one of the most dominant glacial ice formations that covered most of Manitoba and parts of Minnesota
11:58thousands of years ago.
12:00Its influence on the Red River Valley is still visible today.
12:09Okay, now just watch.
12:11Okay.
12:12I'm looking for a ship, looking for a ship.
12:15There's a ship right here.
12:17Yep.
12:18Now we're getting down here.
12:20And here is the end of the ship.
12:24Right here.
12:26There's a 125 foot ship here.
12:29Wow.
12:32Ralph tells Mackenzie there's a 125 foot ancient Viking ship buried here.
12:38He's found stones he thinks are ballasts.
12:43I thought I was a believer, but I don't think I am.
12:46But with Ralph it works so well and he's really confident in the stuff he's found.
12:51I'm looking for ballast stones.
12:53I'm looking for ballast stones.
13:02Whoa.
13:03And there's my creative way of not digging up.
13:08Fair enough.
13:09So they're from that mark to there.
13:12The stones are heavy enough to balance the ship.
13:17Okay.
13:17They're just all in layers in the ship.
13:22Yeah.
13:22He thinks that the Kensington rune stone could be a ballast from the long buried ship.
13:27It might also be the burial location of the 10 men that died, according to the rune stone.
13:33He's not the only one who's gone over those areas and found similar results.
13:37So I'm not sure what to believe, but there's a possibility that it's real.
13:40The team has now encountered many people who believe the rune stone is real and that the events inscribed in
13:48stone occurred right here in Alexandria.
13:52Being here and uncovering new information on the rune stone adds weight to their northern expedition.
13:58There may be a connection to the northern cairn or Viking grave.
14:07The team is on their northern expedition, poring over maps.
14:11They compare Windy Smith's original map with a modern day map to try to pinpoint the cairn's location.
14:18I'm going to show you the original sort of map of this cairn that we're looking for.
14:22The original map that was drawn by Windy Smith.
14:26In 1929, Windy Smith came out of this bay with his dog team in a blizzard and headed that way.
14:33And because the blizzard was so bad, he pulls into shore to get some shelter.
14:38And he looks around and he said, whoa, what the heck is that?
14:44And he describes this thing that's like 16 by 16 by 6 high.
14:49Big boulders, big logs, no windows, no doors.
14:53Hard to find, hard to see.
14:55Doesn't look like it was made for, you know, a shelter or a marker or didn't want anybody to see
15:03it easily.
15:03It's kind of, it's hidden.
15:05Yeah, you see this big thing here?
15:07This guy?
15:08Yeah.
15:08That point there?
15:09Yeah.
15:09We think it's this point right here.
15:12Okay.
15:13Because it's a significant height of land.
15:15There's a big high 300 foot ridge that runs here.
15:18Right.
15:18And that high point is almost certainly this.
15:23Okay.
15:24We think we're on the right track.
15:26If you look at this, it's that point.
15:28Because that is a significant, it's kind of, someplace he says it's the key to the whole thing.
15:33The height of land, the high point, key to the whole thing.
15:36That means that it's over here.
15:47Mark scans locations that Ralph earlier identified with his GPR equipment.
15:54He's found something.
15:57It's like a wall.
15:59It's right at the end of the scan there.
16:03See how it's continuous?
16:04Now you're starting structures?
16:06Yeah, look at that.
16:07Look at that.
16:08Looks like a wall.
16:11The team is interested in Mark's initial ground penetrating radar scan.
16:17There appears to be a wall or structure under the ground.
16:21It's vertical.
16:22That.
16:23And very well defined in the vertical plane.
16:28We have to move over a little.
16:29So we need to go deeper.
16:30The GPR scans as low as 40 feet below.
16:34But that's if ground conditions are ideal, which today, they aren't.
16:39The ground is still partially frozen, and the uneven terrain is a challenge.
16:44So do you have to keep that below, or is that close to the ground and not above a certain
16:50height?
16:50You want to keep it, right, as close to the ground as you can without hitting brush, but I can't
16:57do it up here.
16:58Oh, yeah, yeah.
16:58It's got to be, you want it to be, for the best results, it needs to be within six inches
17:04of the ground.
17:06The heck is that?
17:07Yeah, it doesn't have nearly as much structure when you see the whole thing.
17:12Hmm.
17:13So, so that, that whole big blue thing is one continuous thing?
17:17Yes.
17:18I hate to say this, but it looks cross-shaped.
17:20It's definitely cross-shaped.
17:22Definitely.
17:22Let me, here, move your hand for a second.
17:24Let me do the gain.
17:25Yep.
17:25And as I increase the density, there's definitely...
17:29Is that a box now?
17:30That's, well, it's a major, it's a real hit, right kind of here, below the device.
17:40The scans reveal fascinating structures that might have been intentionally placed there, but it's unclear if these are graves.
17:48What we are seeing are rock formations in this area, but it's, um, to find an 18 inch deep grave
17:56that's 700 years old or 1100 years old, we're not going to find it with this.
18:02Do you have anything that we can do here that can give us a more definite answer about whether there
18:08are any graves here?
18:10Do we have any technology with us today?
18:13Yeah, you're holding it in your hand.
18:15Other than digging it?
18:17No.
18:17Gotcha.
18:18No technology that...
18:19I kind of figured that out.
18:21It's a state park, so obviously we can't dig anywhere.
18:24We handed everything over to the state authorities and maybe one day they'll actually do a dig.
18:30Is it a rock? Is it actually a full grave? Is it really a Viking ship? I don't know.
18:36We can't really dig anything because it's a park.
18:38Digging in this park is strictly prohibited and, to the team's knowledge, has never happened.
18:44They hope that one day they, or someone else, will be permitted to explore what's buried in Kensington Runestone Park.
18:52Let's take pictures and we'll hand that off to Minnesota and they can ponder what to do with that.
18:57Yeah, okay.
18:58So, if we go down and get Ralph to show us where the boat is...
19:02If you turn around and look at where those poles are, that's the width of where the ballast stones are.
19:08They're right there.
19:09Oh, I see. Okay.
19:10So, we got ballast stones, which are rocks. They should show up. But a boat...
19:14They'll show up very similar to what we found here.
19:16I would expect.
19:18Yeah.
19:18Ralph is adamant there's a Viking ship buried in the park. He takes the team to where he thinks it
19:25is.
19:31Okay.
19:33Right here. There's rocks.
19:36Nope.
19:37I don't think we should be cutting down trees in the park.
19:39I've got them about four feet deep.
19:42That's the ballast stones.
19:43There's three...
19:45In this path, there were three really strong hits.
19:48Nope.
19:49Yeah.
19:49And these ballast stones were supposed to be in the boat?
19:51Yeah.
19:52There should be a lot of domino-shaped stones around here.
19:56Uh, yeah.
19:57Unless...
19:58Unless we can't quite tell the shape of the stones.
20:03Mark's scan appears to corroborate Ralph's claim of ballast stones that are roughly four feet underground.
20:11I heard you guys found something.
20:14So, here's a problem, Mac. Are you ready to be astounded or confused?
20:19Both.
20:19How about both?
20:20So, we're standing in the middle of what the... where the ship was supposed to be, right?
20:24Correct.
20:24That's one end.
20:25That's the other.
20:26Yep.
20:26These ballast stones are supposed to be the source of the Kensington Runestone stone, right?
20:31Correct, yep.
20:31So, you'd think they'd be domino.
20:33So, Mark just did a bunch of scanning and what did Mark find?
20:38Flat rocks.
20:40Oh.
20:41Stacked on top of each other.
20:42You can see, um...
20:44He did say they were going to be stacked.
20:46Yeah.
20:46So, again, this would be a great data package to hand to the Minnesota people to take a look at.
20:51Because, again, I don't know what to do with that information.
20:57Any there that are the size of the Kensington Runestone, for example?
21:01That is a possibility.
21:04I mean, you can see here that we've got a very... you can see the deep blue.
21:08Yes.
21:08That's the thickness of the target.
21:10Okay.
21:10I'm at 4.74, so you're looking at .6 of a foot, so you're looking at seven inches thick.
21:18Seven inches thick.
21:20And how thick's the Runestone?
21:21Yeah, like...
21:22Seven inches.
21:26Yeah, you're supposed to give us quantitative data to shut down the story or give us...
21:31All you've done is just made the story bigger.
21:33The data doesn't lie.
21:35I mean, you know, it's here.
21:36We did it.
21:38Right here, on the spot.
21:39That's what we're measuring.
21:41Flat stones, pretty unreal.
21:42So we're going to make you tell Ralph your findings, because all you're going to do is he's going to
21:48be here every day now with a dousing rod.
21:51We've got some flat stones over there where Ralph says the ship is, about the size of the Kensington Runestone,
21:58which is really odd.
21:59They're flat stones, and flat stones don't appear to be in multitudinous numbers in this area.
22:04So it's looking interesting.
22:09With nothing more they can do with the possible ballast stones they found, they look for an ancient outhouse with
22:16the help of Ralph's dousing rods.
22:19Okay, I'm looking for an outhouse.
22:21Looking for an outhouse.
22:23Okay, I got an outhouse right here.
22:26Right there.
22:27Okay.
22:28Right around here.
22:29Outhouse cone over here.
22:31Right here?
22:33Yeah, anywhere in here.
22:34Which way did it run?
22:37Across the hill are...
22:38Well...
22:39Angled.
22:43Okay, right around here.
22:45Ralph traces the walls of the outhouse that Mark attempts to verify with his GPR equipment.
22:54So?
22:56Survey says...
22:58So we're looking at something actually that's going to be right in here.
23:03Right where we've got this depression, this ground that looks like it's depressed a little bit matches up with the
23:13signal we've got here.
23:14There is a blue structure here that is about the size of what you would expect a privy hole to
23:18look to be.
23:19Okay.
23:20I think a nice indication of there's still a lot in this universe that we don't know.
23:25And just because we don't necessarily understand it doesn't mean that it's not close to the truth.
23:31So why don't we go take a look at the top of the hill because I don't think we've looked
23:36at the mooring stones and then head over to the field where the thing is supposed to be lined with
23:40rocks because that sounds like it's more like up your alley for getting a good hit.
23:45That would be the GPR.
23:46Yeah, that's GPR.
23:47Okay.
23:47Well, let's go.
23:48Okay.
23:49Up we go.
23:51It's interesting.
23:52We've definitely, I think, with the magnetometer, we found some interesting disturbed sites over here, or let's say disturbed soil.
24:00So that definitely gives me the impression that, you know, there has been activity here.
24:05Definitely if it were me and I were in a position of power over this facility, this site, I would
24:13want to do some additional excavation and see, okay, what is that?
24:18The area we were searching with the GPR is a protected site.
24:21Definitely not digging.
24:22But the interest is there if there's facts to support the work.
24:27So us just saying there's a boat under this dirt, they're not going to show up.
24:32But if we actually showed them a shape of a hull using a GPR, there is enough evidence to go
24:40take a look at it.
24:45The team now knows this area is rich with underground treasures waiting to be unearthed.
24:51For now, they will stay a mystery.
24:54Every once in a while you run across, you know, a situation that you think can't possibly happen, and it
25:01does, and it just opens up more questions.
25:04But we have threads of a mystery that we're trying to weave together, and it's really interesting to see where
25:10that goes.
25:11I think, for us, the fun part and the satisfying part is that we're finding a target.
25:17Whether that target is a gas tank or a gold chest or ballast stones from a Viking longboat, it's still,
25:27it's a lot of fun to go out and find them.
25:29I think the technology definitely delivered. It made our job easier. I don't think it did our job for us,
25:35but I think it made it a lot more efficient and faster.
25:38We would have never known if anything was actually in that ground that Ralph had said if we didn't have
25:42that, unless we were digging, which could have taken years to get permits.
25:46So I think it was all very, like, supporting characters, but I'm really happy we had all of it.
25:56The next day, Alexandria resident Wayne takes the team to an area that he believes is a Viking burial mound
26:03based on a picture from the 1950s.
26:06The ten dead men depicted on the rune stone are theorized by Wayne to be in this location.
26:14All right, keep up, Mark. I'm not waiting for you anymore.
26:17Hey, Mark. What do you need, dog?
26:17I need you to throw up Google Earth.
26:19Do you come to keep flying?
26:20This one is new. They have another deer stand right beyond that.
26:27Right around here.
26:29Two rows of five skeletons.
26:32Yeah, two rows of five skeletons.
26:34And probably, not certainly.
26:36Head to toe, so we're going to say five feet.
26:40So that's going to be 25 feet long.
26:42No, it would be 10 feet by 12 feet.
26:45It's not...
26:46Two deep, five wide.
26:47Okay, so it's not head to toe, it's shoulder to shoulder.
26:49Shoulder to shoulder.
26:49That's what I showed.
26:50Gotcha, okay.
26:51Head to toe.
26:52We're going to run one line to here.
26:57That's actually really good.
27:05Incredible balance.
27:07Mark finishes his scan and reads the results.
27:11Whoa, what's that thing?
27:13That is something right in the middle of that walk.
27:18Yes.
27:18It is 13.8 feet from the start.
27:22So, if there was multiple rocks, would it show up as multiple rocks or one big, like, highlight of something?
27:28If it were, I mean, when you look at this, take the map off.
27:33That is multiple targets, kind of all in a line.
27:39The initial findings are promising, but Mark wants more data, which means more scanning.
27:44I love it.
27:45Let's get, let's get...
27:46Yeah, let's get another scan going.
27:48Next scan.
27:48How about if we get another scan going?
27:50What he said.
27:52Wait, Mackenzie, what about if we get another scan going?
27:55Should we get another scan going?
27:56Wait, wait, wait.
27:58Guys, guys, what we really need to do is another scan.
28:02Okay?
28:02I think you're right.
28:03All in favor.
28:03Great idea.
28:04Let's go.
28:05Let's do it.
28:05Let's do it, yeah.
28:11Not optimum conditions, but...
28:14Oh, don't make excuses before you're done.
28:17Listen, Mark, if it was easy, everyone would do it.
28:22This new data is even more encouraging.
28:27Ooh, it's getting bigger.
28:29No.
28:31What is that?
28:34Yeah, what is that?
28:36Targets.
28:37What kind of targets?
28:38Reflects, echoes.
28:39Of?
28:40Of the past.
28:41Something hard.
28:42What if we, what if we start there and we do a whole scan so they're all lengthening?
28:45We have, we have the, the big area like right now.
28:48We can do that.
28:48Instead of just doing a little one.
28:49We can connect.
28:50Yeah, I think, I mean, I think you've proved your point there.
28:52I would say that that's a great idea, but...
28:56First.
28:56Let's do another scan eight feet in the north direction.
29:01Okay, let's do it.
29:01And connect and see what we've got on those three.
29:04Yeah.
29:04And then from that, we'll orient where we want our more complete scan.
29:08Okay.
29:10Joe brings Wayne in for a closer look at the results.
29:14Unfortunately, they can only speculate as to the reasons for the stones being there.
29:20Wayne, come on, have a look here.
29:23You're gonna, you're gonna like this.
29:24Pull right in.
29:24There's a bit of a glare there, so you're gonna have to kind of lean in.
29:28Okay, so the red line is what I just walked.
29:31Uh-huh.
29:32And those blue images that you see there?
29:36Yep.
29:36Are targets, hard targets.
29:38Where we are, it's safe to call them stones.
29:41Okay.
29:41Of some type.
29:42Sir, your hypothesis is, it's, they're how far down?
29:49Half a meter.
29:51That's in that.
29:51That's just over, I mean, just under two feet.
29:53Yeah.
29:54That's two feet.
29:55Yeah, that's within the air tolerance of this technology.
29:59For sure.
29:59What's your opinion?
30:01Looking at that, I'm thinking that there are two significant rocks in this case, based
30:11on the local geology, that are 16.8 feet from where we started.
30:20Wayne is interesting because he's done a lot of research, and he's trying to ground truth
30:26what he thinks is the case.
30:29And he, he does a pretty good presentation of facts related to the story of the runestone
30:35that makes it possible.
30:37The only way you can prove his theory is by going to search, and if you find something,
30:43then digging down.
30:45Well, so the, so your hypothesis is there with the original, the 10 people from the runestone
30:50are buried right here.
30:52Right here.
30:52And so the, the, the spot you have in that 50 map, 51 I think it is map.
30:57Yeah.
30:57Within a 15 foot radius.
30:59We had three people, that spot there, and they all came in with 15 feet of one another
31:06in a circle.
31:07So what happened to that thing that was in the, in the, in the photo from the fifties?
31:13The fifties?
31:14That was the, a burial mound with trees on it that was at least, as he said, six feet high.
31:21But where'd it go?
31:22I mean, like where, where is it now?
31:23Like what?
31:23We're probably standing right on top of it.
31:25But, but why did it move?
31:27The farmer cut, tore it down.
31:29It was in the way.
31:29He pushed all the rocks that were in there into the bush over here.
31:32And that's where big rocks are, huge rocks.
31:35The mountain itself is unusual.
31:37That's unusual.
31:38Absolutely.
31:39And you're, and you're connecting that to the graves.
31:41Yeah.
31:42But that's it.
31:43Like there's no other oral story connecting it.
31:45That's nothing.
31:46I'm it, guys.
31:47This is happening in Wayne's world.
31:50Yes.
31:50That's a good way.
31:52This is my world.
31:53So, so.
31:54In the next month, the landowner here, he has people working for him.
31:58Yeah.
31:58We're going to find the exact spot here, scrape the dirt off.
32:03And if we find human remains, we call the sheriff.
32:07Once the remains are exhumed, Wayne hopes they can be sent for DNA analysis to confirm their Viking origin.
32:15Is there anything else we can do here to help Wayne in this quest here today?
32:20It's one big scan.
32:21We're pretty much where that mound is.
32:24Yeah.
32:24And you put it in my lap now and we'll have an answer in a month.
32:30How long would it take us to do a scan just to connect all the dots?
32:34Like 12 minutes.
32:36Should we get her done and then head this way?
32:37We're here.
32:38We've got all the equipment.
32:39We're fired up.
32:40Get her done and head for the hill.
32:41Just do it.
32:42Okay.
32:43So when we started scanning, we just were doing some stripes and get some quick, like,
32:48is something there?
32:49And something showed up right away.
32:50It was like, oh my gosh.
32:52Like, it looks like stones.
32:53It looks like a wall.
32:54So then we started doing more and filling in the data.
32:57And what we were catching was a bunch of stones together, not a wall.
33:01What he's going to do is literally what an archaeologist would do.
33:04You strip away the dirt until you find something.
33:07Are the scans revealing stones?
33:09Or are there bodies beneath the surface?
33:12We won't know until Wayne excavates the site.
33:15At the completion of the program, Wayne has yet to begin his day.
33:25The Faraheim team travels to an undisclosed location south of Kensington Runestone Park.
33:31Oh, yeah.
33:32We're guests.
33:33We're guests.
33:34We're guests in your backyard here.
33:35So we're cutting up this.
33:37So, I mean, this is the hill.
33:39Up the mound right here.
33:41They have been told of other potential Viking grave sites to investigate.
33:47This is, I think, is the burial site for the ten Vikings that were killed back in 1362.
33:53They come back.
33:54They find ten guys slaughtered.
33:57Yep.
33:57Buried them where they're slaughtered.
33:59Yep.
34:00But then they go all the way over to Runestone Hill to carve the runestone.
34:03Correct.
34:04Why would they do that?
34:06Because they want people to find this site.
34:09Okay.
34:09There might be another runestone here.
34:11There's a rock up here that looks like it's flat like a runestone.
34:15But we flipped it over.
34:15There wasn't anything on the other side.
34:19Local residents Randy and Elroy are convinced the ten men red with blood from the Kensington
34:25Runestone inscription are buried here.
34:28Well, I've been cutting wood out here for a number of years.
34:31And I just, I just had a feeling about not being alone out here.
34:37When I was actually alone, I just felt there's a presence other than myself.
34:43And this mound here kept, kept me thinking about stuff.
34:49And my connection, I think, is I have relatives here.
34:55My mother believes that.
34:57She said, I think you're going to find relatives here.
35:00And I've had that feeling that I would too.
35:05This is a site that Randy has been visiting for years and feels a personal connection to it.
35:12Randy's confession resonates with the team.
35:14They also believe their ancestors came through centuries ago, but can't shake the feeling that the answers they're looking for
35:23are in the northern cairn.
35:29So, he's looking for the outlets, he's coming from Windy Lake, comes down Windy River, he gets in here.
35:35He's in a blizzard.
35:36The blizzard is almost certainly coming from the northwest or the northeast.
35:40He gets into shelter, he goes onto the land.
35:42He's not crossing the land, he goes onto the land to find shelter.
35:46Joe suggests what Windy Smith might have done when he found the cairn years ago.
35:52If he's coming down here and gets into a blizzard, he pulls into here to get out of the wind.
35:57Because I always wondered why he's going across land at all, but I think that's probably it.
36:02Because he's following the lake, he's trying to get to the outlet, which is way over here.
36:06So, my question, if he's in a blizzard, he's going to reduce visibility.
36:10So, is he following this high land, like if he's following the shoreline here, that's what I'm thinking.
36:19He came down the Windy River, he's probably following along here to this high ground, keeping it on his right.
36:23He could be. He's basically on the lake because he describes it.
36:26For sure. And then he pulls it off to get shelter.
36:28And then it comes across to try and find, like you said, that exit.
36:30Something.
36:31Yeah.
36:32He knows he's got to go this way.
36:34He doesn't even know exactly where this outlet is.
36:36So, off something like that, that's where we look.
36:42Let's leave that big net behind there, Sam. We won't need it.
36:46We'll have to...
36:47Oh, listen to that.
36:49Whoa, Nelly.
36:50Listen to that thing hum.
36:51The team takes to the water to begin retracing what they think is Windy's route.
36:57If we stop, the worst thing is, is I pitch forward and I got nothing to stop me from...
37:03When we hit a rock, the water's got to be like 40 degrees.
37:06Even though the lake is mostly thawed, falling into the water right now would be dangerous.
37:12You want to go through that?
37:14It's all handled. It should be thin.
37:16I'll just tuck the edge of it. Hang on, Andrew.
37:19Ramming speed. It looks fairly... It looks a little thick.
37:23How thick is it?
37:25Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!
37:37Back in Minnesota, Elroy and Randy lead the Faraheim team to an area with three boulders on top of a
37:45hill.
37:46And by themselves, I think, yeah, this is interesting, but it really doesn't, you know, that doesn't say much.
37:52Okay.
37:53And so I told Randy, you know, look for rocks with holes in them.
37:58Sure.
37:58So two years later, he sent me a picture of the Melby stone, he calls it, the Melby stone.
38:05Okay.
38:05Big rock with three holes in it.
38:07Yes.
38:08Same pattern, basically.
38:09We've heard about a lot of hole stones, a lot of mooring stones, a lot of code stones, a lot
38:13of everything with holes in them.
38:15Never heard of three yet.
38:16Exactly.
38:17So it's...
38:17You're gonna see three.
38:18Yeah, that's why we're here.
38:19Absolutely.
38:20Gotta see it.
38:21We're going to see three holes.
38:23Okay.
38:23Fall in.
38:24All right.
38:26Okay, so...
38:27So there it is.
38:28Okay.
38:29The Melby stone.
38:35Each hole is two and three quarter inches deep.
38:38They're two and how, two and how much?
38:39Three quarters, I think, yeah.
38:40Three quarters, but okay.
38:42So the theory is if these represent the three, if these holes represent the three boulders on top of that
38:49hill, we need to look under the middle boulder.
38:53Joe and David go in for a closer look on the boulders and the suspicious holes in it.
38:59Elroy and Randy are adamant that the graves of the ten Vikings mentioned on the Kensington rune stone are underneath
39:06the boulders.
39:08To prove it, almost the entire area would have to be thoroughly examined and unearthed, which isn't an option.
39:16There's a flat stone.
39:17Flat stone.
39:17Yeah.
39:18Let's go and look at it.
39:19Is it greywack?
39:20No, it's not.
39:21Okay.
39:22It's not greywacky.
39:23You see.
39:24Yeah, so...
39:25Hmm.
39:26We saw this rock, and I thought, well, that looks interesting.
39:29We flipped it up to make sure there wasn't anything written on the other side.
39:32For sure.
39:33But if they were going to carve another rune stone, this, you know, maybe they carved off one and this
39:38is what's left over.
39:39But, you know, a lot of these boulders that are up here in this area have all been pulled in
39:44here, pushed in here.
39:45Yeah, yeah.
39:46So they were clearing the field and moved it over.
39:48Drugging here with oxen or something like that.
39:50Yeah.
39:50Well, doing the search of the area, we didn't find anything.
39:56And one of the things we did find, though, is the farmers in their day cleared all their fields.
40:02So they took all the stones and rocks and moved them around.
40:05It'd be like Stonehenge being plowed over to put corn up.
40:09So we have this problem where there's things that look interesting, but they may not be in the right place
40:14anymore.
40:15Mark sadly could not commit to the entire trip.
40:18However, Randy Guerrillo is still with the team.
40:21He puts his metal detector to work around the middle stone to see if he gets any action.
40:28Randy, over here.
40:29Yeah.
40:30All right.
40:30Okay.
40:31Yeah.
40:32So strong ferris hit under or near this rock.
40:35Okay.
40:36Okay.
40:37Have at it.
40:38And fairly deep, we're thinking, right?
40:51Something a little bit more closer to the surface.
40:54What do you got there, buddy?
41:06You're getting a little ticks here.
41:08A little bit more, but it's still probably a little bit deeper than I tried to pinpoint.
41:12Yeah.
41:12And it won't let me pinpoint.
41:13How deep do you think it might be?
41:16Like rough ahead.
41:17Could be.
41:18Yeah.
41:18Could be a foot and a half.
41:19Foot and a half.
41:20Yeah.
41:21What do you think it might be?
41:22What does it sound like?
41:23It's all iron.
41:24It's ferrous.
41:25Whatever.
41:25Yeah.
41:26It's kind of frozen.
41:27It's frozen.
41:28Don't throw that dirt too far, though.
41:31Oh, there you go.
41:31Stone's coming along.
41:32Okay.
41:32Let's just try it, you know.
41:36I might have got it.
41:37You got it.
41:39Okay.
41:43Nailed it.
41:48You nailed it.
41:49You nailed it.
41:50I nailed it.
41:56I think it's a really cool area.
41:58I think there's a lot of history there.
42:00I don't know if there was Vikings in every spot, but I do think someone or something was
42:05there.
42:06Maybe it wasn't a Viking village, but there's just so much data and so much support that
42:11it's hard to say that nothing existed there.
42:14I think there was something.
42:15Unfortunately, the Minnesota trip doesn't lead to any monumental discoveries or proof of Vikings
42:22in the area.
42:24But, like their ancestors, the Faraheim team continues to investigate all possibilities
42:30on the road to truth.
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