00:00And each of those grants funded projects, real projects by real people, working on scholarly works, some of those funds
00:12were used to pay for housing and to generally further their work. Now those funds are gone, does that make
00:26you feel anything in particular?
00:27Exact same. No.
00:33You don't regret that people might have lost important income to support their lives?
00:40No. I think it was more important to reduce the federal deficit from $2 trillion to close to zero.
00:46Did you reduce the federal deficit?
00:48No, we didn't.
00:49You did?
00:51No, I don't believe we did.
00:53Okay.
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