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00:28But
00:29he's just come out of a mental health unit and you won't let me know if he's alright?
00:32Pads!
00:34Alright, well, just take care of him, will you? He's still really vulnerable.
00:40Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. Bye.
00:44I'm going to get somebody to ring me.
00:46They could have let him have a day or two at home. It's harsh.
00:48Yeah, but Zara will be there. She'll take care of him.
00:50I could have been his appropriate adult. I could have explained to them. It's not right.
00:53It's not fair. Right? He doesn't want you there and you're not allowed, right?
00:57It's okay. We just have to wait here.
01:00Do you understand why we've brought you back in?
01:03Aye. Because of what happened at the hospital.
01:05Mr Howelson voluntarily admitted himself the next day.
01:09I'm sure we can agree that his mental health was responsible for him breaking his bail conditions.
01:14Mm-hmm.
01:15And I'm glad you're feeling better. I understand that you passed your clinical assessment.
01:20Aye, I did.
01:21Good. That's good.
01:24So then, if we could return to the events of January 2nd. I'm hoping now you can fill in some
01:30gaps.
01:30I've told you everything.
01:32Mr Howelson has already given a statement. If you ask him to go over it, there's a risk of re
01:36-trauma.
01:37I'll bear that in mind.
01:40There was a heck of a din going on. Loads of shouting.
01:45I'm still not clear what you were talking about if you say you were alone.
01:49My client's answered this. I'm asking him again. Now that you've had some time away to get things
01:54clearer, was your son Paddy there? No.
01:59Did he help you kill Ray Walters and put his body in the van?
02:02Mr Dingle has told you that he was at a work conference in Lincoln.
02:05We've established that there was a veterinary conference on those dates,
02:08but there's no evidence that Mr Dingle was in fact there.
02:10There's no evidence that he wasn't. Now, Mr Howelson just said that he has nothing to add,
02:15so can I suggest we bring this to a close?
02:20For the benefit of the tape, Officer Rickett has entered the room. Excuse me.
02:35Interview suspended at 9.32. Interview vigilant.
02:48I think you need a spa day. You know, relieve some of the tension.
02:55Do you wanna come to Butler's Farm with me, see if Cain needs any help in moving?
03:00Go away, Jim.
03:01Oh. Okay. I'll bite. What's up?
03:06This to do with Rona? Ah. You know, she's a married woman.
03:11All this mooning over her isn't really a good look.
03:17I think you need a distraction. I tried that.
03:20Oh?
03:24A momentary lapse with Kim. What?
03:28Lydia told Rona so the whole event was an unmitigated disaster.
03:33Hang on. Um, you...
03:35You...
03:36You slept with Kim?
03:38Uh.
03:39Oh, my God. Graham.
03:41Please don't cry.
03:42Forget about Rona. What about Kim?
03:44The last person she went with tried to drug her and steal all of her money.
03:48You know, I'm still perplexed how you can pity a woman who once ordered me to kill you.
03:54It's ancient history. We're in a different place now.
03:57And I'd rather think that your dying precludes you from an opinion.
04:04Oh.
04:09Hey.
04:13Ah.
04:14Hiya.
04:14I was gonna say, I'm sorry you've had to cover surgery again.
04:18I just can't seem to focus at the moment.
04:20Oh, it's no worries. Family comes first.
04:23How is he? Your dad?
04:24He's at the police station.
04:26He turned up as soon as he got home.
04:27Are you talking about bear?
04:29Yeah.
04:29I was going to ask.
04:31He's been taking him for questioning again because of the incident with Jacob.
04:34Right.
04:35Well, we do realise now that he wasn't himself.
04:39Well, exactly. Exactly that.
04:40And Jacob's not pressing charges, so fingers crossed they're not gonna make a thing of him.
04:44So it'll just be the manslaughter?
04:47Well, no, because it's self-defence.
04:48The solicitor told us that if we could prove that,
04:51then he won't serve a custodial sentence.
04:53Quite right, too.
04:54The ordeal the poor man has been through.
04:56And you, too.
04:58Searching for him for months and then straight into this.
05:01Oh, if he only had found you first, it could have all been avoided.
05:03Well, yeah. You've got to be positive.
05:06When this is over, the real work begins.
05:10In the bed.
05:13Are you really okay?
05:14Yeah, yeah. We just need to keep him steady till the trial.
05:17I mean, any judge would believe him, wouldn't they?
05:29Oh, I'm sorry. I closed my eyes and then I dropped off.
05:32Huh. And why am I not surprised?
05:35I got up to go to the loo and there you were on your laptop at four o'clock in
05:42the morning, Jacob.
05:43You cannot keep on doing this.
05:45It's this research paper. It's a lot.
05:47Does Dr. Todd know that you're working all God's hours?
05:51Can't she kill you some slack?
05:52No.
05:53Oh, my God, Grandad. This is such an opportunity.
05:56It's an honour.
05:57It's up to me to make it work.
06:04Hey, what's all this?
06:07It's not even twelve o'clock and you're on your lunch break.
06:09Oh, yeah. Sorry, boss.
06:10I was just booking myself an appointment at the salon.
06:14Waxing.
06:15Oh.
06:16Yeah, but it's shut so I'm au naturel.
06:19If you were a feminist, you'd embrace your body hair.
06:21Yeah, Archie.
06:23Look, here.
06:25Go and get your own dinner, all right?
06:28I, er, I'm going to need to get back to the office.
06:31What?
06:33Clearly, Kerry needs a time management refresher.
06:38And another one. I've got double signs.
06:42How does...
06:43Oh, just take it.
06:45Oh.
06:47It's a bit tight.
06:48You're supposed to be having a daddy-son date at the cafe, aren't you?
06:51Nah, it'll be fine.
06:52Think he knows?
06:53Archie.
06:54Nah.
06:57Hey.
06:58All right?
07:00I heard about your dad getting cancer.
07:02Mine's rubbish.
07:03Yeah.
07:04I looked it up, though, because I didn't even know what a prostate was.
07:09Sorry.
07:11Do you want to know something weird?
07:14What?
07:15I think my dad's having sex with your granny.
07:20Oh, hello.
07:26If you're going to start on about Chas the other day, I'm not getting involved.
07:29Uh, nobody's asking you to.
07:32But I do appreciate your very chivalrous attempts to stand up for me.
07:37Hmm?
07:38What?
07:38Anyway, hey, Sam, look, we're nearly halfway through the morning and you haven't counted your chicks yet.
07:43Oh, yeah.
07:44A bit more have hatched.
07:45Come on, exciting.
07:46Egg-citing.
07:53So, is this another Graham update?
07:55Er, there's nothing to update.
07:58I just wanted to come round and apologise for crying on your shoulder like some lovesick teen.
08:03You came all the way up here just to say that.
08:06Well, you've obviously still got feelings.
08:09Clearly not reciprocated.
08:11Well, you've both said stuff.
08:13He cares for you.
08:14He just needs to get this business with Rona out of his system.
08:17So I'm just supposed to hang round in the meantime, playing the pick-me game?
08:22Over my dead body.
08:24Look, if the pair of you are meant to be...
08:25We're not.
08:28How could I ever trust him again?
08:30He stole my money, let me think he was murdered.
08:34Because he thought you were going to kill him otherwise.
08:35Well, exactly.
08:36It's too much to come back from.
08:39The only thing that's meant to be is me getting hurt again.
08:43Well, it's not happening, Lydia.
08:46I'm too old and I'm too wise.
08:51Oh.
08:52It's just initial ideas, you know, how we might structure the research question.
08:56Should I ask for initial ideas?
08:58No, but I thought establishing some kind of framework.
09:02Allows you to submit a generic word salad with no substance at all.
09:06Did you use AI?
09:08No.
09:09It's a shame.
09:10At least that would have excused the excruciating banality.
09:14I got in late last night.
09:16I've been working so much, I don't know when I was supposed to...
09:18I know.
09:19Life is hard.
09:20The hours, the pressure, the lack of sleep.
09:22I'm not making excuses.
09:23Then do better.
09:24And don't waste my time on substandard ramblings I wouldn't even expect from a first year student.
09:29I won't.
09:30Sorry.
09:32Do you want this role, Jake?
09:34There are a dozen of your colleagues who would have killed for the chance.
09:37Yes, of course I do.
09:38I appreciate your faith in me.
09:41Then let's forget this unfortunate start.
09:44We'll call it a practice.
09:46Is that fair?
09:47Yeah.
09:49You could delete all this.
09:51I want the real version by the deadline.
09:53Or before.
10:05Did you stop looking so mournful?
10:07It's depressing.
10:09I think you forget sometimes how much I've done for you.
10:13Would you stop?
10:14All this jealousy with Kim.
10:16It's kind of boring.
10:17I'm not jealous.
10:19She only cares about furthering her empire.
10:22Everything else is secondary to death.
10:23She mistakes love for control.
10:25Control?
10:27You're the control freak.
10:28You come back from the dead and you expect everything to be the same.
10:31I'm looking out for you, like I've always done.
10:33Well, it's overcomplicated.
10:34It's Machiavellian.
10:35And it's emotionally exhausting and I don't have time for it.
10:38You do.
10:39Now more than ever.
10:40Because she's got you right where she wants you.
10:43An errand boy.
10:44A scapegoat.
10:45Okay, seriously.
10:46This is your last chance.
10:48Do not make me choose between you and Kim.
10:50Go home.
10:52Face her.
11:09Interview recommences at 12.05 p.m.
11:16So, after Mr. Howelson's assault on Jacob Sugden and its similarities to the incident that
11:23caused Ray Walter's death, we've reviewed both pathology reports.
11:27To what purpose?
11:29Unreasonable force.
11:31The latest conclusion is that the threshold for self-defense was passed.
11:38Mr. Howelson, you were a wrestler, is that correct?
11:43Aye.
11:43For how many years?
11:45Too many to remember.
11:47But it was your career, so we can assume you were proficient.
11:52You knew your stuff.
11:53Aye.
11:54How do you win a match?
11:56Can you tell me the basics?
11:59Well, the simplest thing is to pin your opponent to the canvas.
12:05Using your own body weight in various holds.
12:08Aye, that's it.
12:10And did you ever kill anyone during a wrestling bout?
12:13No.
12:14Yes, Walsh.
12:15No, because you knew how to handle your opponents safely.
12:18To restrain them just enough to win, right?
12:22And you let go of Jacob Sugden because you knew, well, you would kill him if you didn't.
12:26Of course.
12:28So, what happened with Ray Walters?
12:30Why didn't you release him when he was close to that threshold?
12:33Oh, self-defense, what are you going on about?
12:35I'm suggesting that you were fully aware of your actions when you applied so much pressure
12:41to his chest that he was unable to breathe.
12:43A force that you would have known was far in excess of what was necessary or proportionate.
12:49Now, look.
12:50I think you deliberately killed Ray Walters.
13:13You said that you wrapped Ray Walters' body in a tarpaulin, which you secured with a rope.
13:26Can you show me the knot that you used?
13:30It was a specific type of knot, which is why I was wondering where you might have learnt it.
13:35Go on.
13:36Have a go.
13:48No.
14:02Still no.
14:04I think we might have a problem, don't you?
14:14From Kim's safe.
14:16My technique's a bit rusty, but I got there.
14:19A will.
14:21Latest version.
14:24And you broke into her safe to steal her will.
14:29I like your style.
14:32Beneficiaries, page six.
14:34I'll save you the trouble.
14:35The grandchildren pretty much get everything.
14:37Okay, fair enough.
14:38Which, of course, includes you.
14:41Well, it's very equitable.
14:43I don't necessarily need her money.
14:45What about the house?
14:48What?
14:50It's my home.
14:52She's always had that understanding with me.
14:54She knows how much it means.
14:55I mean, she cares about the Tate legacy.
14:57She's not exactly leaving it to a donkey sanctuary, is she?
15:00Klaus.
15:04Lydia Dingle.
15:06I can do it.
15:07Just give me a minute.
15:08Okay.
15:10Did your son Paddy tie the rope around Ray Walters' body?
15:13No.
15:14Was he there in the house when Ray Walters was killed?
15:16You've already asked all this.
15:18No.
15:18How about Dylan Penders?
15:19Was he there?
15:20No.
15:21No.
15:21And yet, you remembered he had a key to the van.
15:25Mr. Howelson, why don't you tell the truth?
15:28It's clear that you didn't act alone.
15:31I did.
15:31Just me.
15:32I don't believe you.
15:35I think Paddy led the cover up.
15:37Dylan supplied the key.
15:39And the three of you worked together to wrap and dispose of the body.
15:43You're wrong.
15:46Imagine they got married.
15:47What does that make her?
15:48She's married.
15:49Duh.
15:50I'd be your step uncle.
15:51That's classic.
15:52Stop going around with you, freak.
15:54Not my fault.
15:54You got a hot granny.
15:55I said, shut up.
15:57Hey, lads.
15:58Lads.
15:59Let's have the argy-bargy.
16:01We don't push our mates.
16:02What's the problem, eh?
16:04You're both holding off to know better.
16:06Especially you, Carl.
16:07What with your dad.
16:08You know.
16:09What?
16:10Let's just say Cain doesn't need you playing up.
16:14Why don't you help Mr. Pollard?
16:17They've been scrapping, but it's all sorted out now.
16:22Scrapping?
16:23He says about my ground.
16:25Don't tell him, you idiot.
16:28Stuff?
16:30Pray.
16:32Elaborate, young man.
16:34She was sitting in my dad's chair in his office acting flirty.
16:37And he was talking just now about waxing.
16:41He reckons her and Jay are hooking up.
16:46That is my wife.
16:49Whose character you are so casually inviserating.
16:52Don't know what that means, but sorry.
16:54I was just trying to cheer Kyle up.
16:55Trying to cheer him up?
16:58What is wrong with you, young man?
17:00I said I'm sorry.
17:01Probably got wrong on the end of the stick.
17:03My dad likes his women way more classy, to be honest.
17:08You said that Ray was your friend, but you didn't call an ambulance.
17:11Why was that?
17:12No comment.
17:13Did Paddy tell you not to?
17:14Was he scared that he'd be caught?
17:16No, no comment.
17:18Was it Paddy who killed him?
17:19Paddy who didn't have your professional training?
17:21Who wouldn't have known how much force to apply?
17:24That is your opinion, not fact.
17:26Can we take a break now?
17:27It won't Paddy.
17:28But he was there, wasn't he?
17:30Wasn't he?
17:31He saw what Ray had reduced you to and he couldn't stomach the thought
17:34that you would be punished for his death.
17:36He was trying to protect you.
17:37No.
17:37Because he loves you.
17:38He was trying to be a good son.
17:40DS Walsh.
17:40And now you're trying to protect him and so the lies go on and on.
17:44I'm not lying.
17:45It was me, all me.
17:48And it weren't an accident neither.
17:51I knew exactly what I was doing.
17:55What did you say?
17:56When I found Ray in the house and he went for me.
18:01That was the final straw.
18:02How do you mean?
18:03I wanted him dead.
18:05He were cruel and violent.
18:08So I finished him off.
18:09And if Jay hadn't taken the van, I'd have gotten away with it and all.
18:14Mr. Howlson, do you understand what you're saying?
18:17You've got to understand.
18:18I'm telling the truth.
18:20I killed Ray.
18:22And I'd do it again.
18:27I thought you were Kerry.
18:29Just text her, Eric.
18:31No, no, no, no, no.
18:32I'm going to keep tabs on my wife.
18:34Totally unnecessary.
18:36Anyway.
18:38Whoa, not now.
18:39We're going out, remember?
18:40Oh, Sarah.
18:40To spend some alone time, to reconnect.
18:42I can wait till tomorrow.
18:46Right?
18:51Is this because of the whole car situation?
18:53Because you said you understood.
18:54No, I did.
18:55I do.
18:55Right, so why are you being weird then?
18:56I have to work on my research paper, okay?
18:59Again?
18:59Yeah, I knew you'd say that.
19:00Yes, because you were up all last night doing it.
19:02Jacob, you hardly came to bed.
19:04And I messed it up, so I have to start again.
19:06Right, well, you still need to eat, so why don't we stay in and order something?
19:10Pretend we're at the fancy restaurant I booked.
19:12Sarah, I said no.
19:14There's no point in you bugging me.
19:16I have to do this.
19:17I'm sorry.
19:22The only solace is that now you realise I wasn't lying.
19:26How did you know?
19:27I didn't.
19:28But I do know Kim.
19:29She wouldn't miss a chance to create resentment and discord, even after her death.
19:35She isn't even a Tate.
19:37Not by blood.
19:38Anyway, I have a family connection.
19:40It's a moral right.
19:44Ah, Livia and Sammy for drinks.
19:48Breath of fresh air compared to the company I've been keeping.
19:52I hope I bought some sparkles for the ladies.
19:56Er, hostess gifts are never drunk on the day.
20:00It's okay, I know you won't touch it.
20:02Me and Sam will swill it down later.
20:03Why don't you go on through?
20:05I'll gather the glasses.
20:06I can sort all that.
20:08You'll do no such thing.
20:09You're a guest.
20:11Part of the family.
20:15Please.
20:19Don't joke about this.
20:22This stays between you and I.
20:25Shall I replace it and trust Kim isn't about to expire?
20:30And thank you for bringing this to my attention.
20:35Pleasure.
20:44Your father changed his account to say he killed Ray Walters deliberately, so the CPS has escalated the charge to
20:51murder.
20:52What?
20:53Yeah, but he wouldn't have said that all right.
20:54He thought Ray was his friend.
20:55He said he wanted him dead.
20:57He was very emphatic.
20:59But that's not right.
21:00He'll have been confused.
21:01Why would he say that?
21:02He can't be thinking straight.
21:03DS Walsh was pushing him about both of your involvement, suggesting your dad was protecting you.
21:09Oh, Dad.
21:11But he lied.
21:13It was a lie.
21:14As far as the police are concerned, it's a confession.
21:16But we'll still try and make a case for self-defence.
21:19We'll use that to persuade the judge to go for a minimum term.
21:23But it is a mandatory life sentence.
21:28So that's it.
21:31After all this, my dad goes down for murder.
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