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World's Most Evil Killers S06E03 Sean Vincent Gillis
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00:01February 2004, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
00:0643-year-old sex worker Donna Bennett Johnston
00:10was walking the streets looking for business.
00:14The friendly man driving a white Chevy Cavalier
00:17seemed like a safe customer.
00:20He'd stalked this victim.
00:22He'd got his mind set on her.
00:25The man was 41-year-old Sean Vincent Gillis,
00:29and he was out hunting.
00:31Because the minute he saw the women that he killed,
00:35to him they were already dead in his mind.
00:39But what he was to do to her in the wake of the killing
00:43is utterly grotesque.
00:46He raped her, he beat her, he cut off her arm,
00:50and then he saw a tattoo on her thigh,
00:55so he cut out the tattoo.
00:59This quiet, shy, ordinary man lived a double life.
01:04Devoted partner by day, monster by night.
01:08And the policeman looked at me and said,
01:10didn't you know?
01:11You're living with a serial killer.
01:15And I basically laughed out loud.
01:19And said, boy, do you have the wrong house?
01:22You ever heard of Walter Mitty?
01:25Secret life of Walter Mitty.
01:26That's the life I've been leading for about the past eight years.
01:30Secret life of Walter Mitty.
01:31Secret life of Sean Gillis.
01:33Jekyll and Hyde.
01:35For ten years, Gillis indulged his depraved sexual needs
01:40and got away with it.
01:41He wasn't clever, he wasn't careful.
01:44He discarded his victims like garbage
01:46and enjoyed every minute of it.
01:50Making Sean Vincent Gillis
01:52one of the world's most evil killers.
02:181994, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
02:2332-year-old Sean Vincent Gillis was a nerdy geek
02:27who loved computers and all things Star Trek.
02:32He told me he had never had any past relationships.
02:36He had had female friends,
02:38but that was as far as it ever went.
02:41For Gillis, finding a girlfriend wasn't enough.
02:45He had darker desires and started to explore them,
02:49beginning with an easy target.
02:52This first murder is his warm-up murder.
02:55This is the one where he knows
02:57he has that distinct advantage over his victim.
03:00He knows that she's elderly, that she's quite vulnerable,
03:03that she's quite easily overpowered.
03:05And this is the one that is the gateway
03:08to the murders that he goes on to commit.
03:11Over the next five years, he honed his skills
03:14and found the information he needed on the dark web.
03:18Sean began to understand himself a little bit more,
03:22and he began to understand what he actually wanted from killing.
03:28And it wasn't killing.
03:29It was he wanted the dead bodies of women.
03:32And Sean Vincent Gillis knew where he could find women to prey on.
03:39It would take police a couple of more murders
03:42before they started connecting everything
03:44and realising we have a serial killer operating in Baton Rouge.
03:49With every victim, the depth of his depravity escalated.
03:56So you now have a man who's a rapist, a murderer,
04:00a necrophile and a cannibal,
04:03all in this inconsequential little man called Sean Gillis
04:09living with his partner in a house in Baton Rouge.
04:14I mean, this is as repugnant for me as it is to you.
04:19With the one exception, I've done it.
04:21And hopefully you never will.
04:26This killer's story begins on June 24th, 1962.
04:31Sean Vincent Gillis was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
04:36to Yvonne and Norman Gillis.
04:39When he was very young, maybe three years old,
04:43his father tried to kill him and his mother.
04:46Yvonne left Norman when this happened
04:49and became a single mother.
04:51And she raised Sean by herself
04:54from the time he was three years old on.
04:57In fact, Norman spent a great part of his life
05:00in mental institutions and had almost no impact
05:04on Sean Gillis's early years.
05:08It was Yvonne, his mother, that was the decisive influence.
05:16His father is a figure of fear.
05:19He's somebody who is not giving those feelings of safety
05:23and stability and security.
05:25Those are things that he gets from his mother.
05:28And the centrality of his mother in those early years of his life
05:32becomes very, very important in terms of his later relationships
05:36and in terms of his crimes.
05:38She worked at a department store in Baton Rouge.
05:42She worked for Channel 2, a television station here.
05:46And she doted on her son.
05:49She spoiled him.
05:50She thought he was the best baby in the world.
05:54And as he grew, she thought he was really smart,
05:58although his teachers thought he was maybe average intelligence.
06:03He was known to smoke marijuana with his friends.
06:07But neighbors reported that sometimes he would go out
06:11in the middle of the night in the front yard or the backyard
06:14and be howling like a wolf.
06:16He had some very strange behaviors, even as a teenager.
06:22But the thing was that he was so preoccupied by his mother
06:28that he really had no girlfriends.
06:31He went through his adolescence and early twenties
06:35barely having a girlfriend.
06:36I mean, I think he might have wanted a girlfriend,
06:39but I don't think he knew what to do to get one.
06:42Sean was like a nerd.
06:46He was a geek.
06:47He loved computers.
06:49He loved things like Star Trek, Nintendo.
06:53Even early on when computers were just coming out,
06:56he was already studying them and learning how to operate them.
07:01And learning that computers could be used to fulfill your fantasies
07:08or whatever, he used to the computers for pornography
07:13long before most people did.
07:16In 1991, when Gillis was 29 years old,
07:21his mother accepted a new job in Atlanta, Georgia.
07:25His mother asks him to go with her, and he refuses.
07:29And just looking at this, what you've got here is a petulant teenager.
07:33I'm not going to go.
07:35And I think he believes that by refusing to go, she won't go.
07:39But of course she does.
07:41She goes and she takes up this new job.
07:43But she sends him money so that he can keep up payments on the house.
07:46She provides for him.
07:48But he would have taken it almost as a kind of bereavement,
07:52as a kind of grief, because he's been left on his own.
07:56He sees himself as this abandoned child.
07:59He's been fascinated by computers since he was very young,
08:03early days of the internet.
08:04Of course he's addicted to pornography.
08:06It almost goes without saying.
08:10By the time I was 30-something, I was well into it.
08:14There was no point of return.
08:18Then one thing happened, then another thing happened.
08:21No, no kidding happened.
08:23In 1994, Gillis met a young woman who was the night shift manager
08:29at a local convenience store called Terry Lemoyne.
08:33My first impression of Sean was comfortable, safe.
08:39Someone you would want to visit or see every day.
08:44You know, someone who could be your friend easily.
08:48We spent at least six hours talking all night long
08:52in that convenience store.
08:54We liked the same books, we liked the same movies,
08:57we liked the same actors.
09:00We got along fine.
09:04Sean and Terry's relationship flourished.
09:09The store where Terry worked nights was only a short walk
09:12from Sean's house and down the road from a retirement community
09:16called St. James Place.
09:19One night, Gillis was walking through the grounds
09:22of the facility's residential area
09:24and stopped at the home of 82-year-old Anne Bryan.
09:28She left her door cracked a little bit in the retirement home
09:32so that the nurse could come in if she needed to that night
09:36and bring in medication for her.
09:40Securities was amazingly lax.
09:43And I see a window open.
09:45The blinds, curtains were open.
09:47And Ms. Bryant was in there.
09:50Took her bath, got out.
09:53And then proceeded to lay in the bed.
09:55At that point, found a door open.
10:01From that door, went into the hallway.
10:06And the first door knob I came to was hers.
10:09It was open.
10:10And I went in.
10:14He decides he's going to kill her.
10:16Not just kill her, but to absolutely destroy this elderly lady.
10:21I mean, he stabs her 47 times.
10:24She has got wounds all over her body.
10:26She has, her throat is cut.
10:28It is a grotesque killing.
10:31For a first kill of a serial killer, this was a frenzied attack.
10:37It was brutal.
10:39It was bloody.
10:40And I think Sean surprised himself with how gruesome that scene got
10:49and what he was capable of.
10:51I just wanted her to be quiet.
10:54This was not what I was there for.
10:58And that's when I cut her breast and cut open her midsection.
11:05No one knew that it was Sean Gillis that had killed her.
11:12There was no connection between Gillis and Anne.
11:17He wasn't the gardener or, you know,
11:20somebody who came around to do the bit of clearing up.
11:23As far as anyone knew, there was no connection whatever.
11:27Six months after killing Anne, Terry and Sean moved in together.
11:33Sean was the, probably one of the best kind of boyfriends you could have.
11:42He was polite.
11:45He was nice.
11:46He always thought of you first.
11:50And Sean was going to be the person I was going to spend the rest of my life with.
11:57Because I'm a person with many shields.
12:00That's what scares me the most is how convincing that I could be.
12:05Hmm?
12:191994, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
12:24Sean Vincent Gillis and his girlfriend, Terry Lemoyne,
12:28settled into their new life together, living in Sean's childhood home.
12:37Sean was a quiet, geeky little guy.
12:45He didn't, he never made loud noises.
12:49He never yelled, he stayed at home a lot.
12:55Sean was the type of person that you could leave your kids with.
13:01That was the type of person he came across as.
13:04He could be your babysitter and you'd trust him.
13:09When he's in this relationship, he is essentially trying to be the perfect boyfriend.
13:14He is on his best behavior.
13:16He wants her approval.
13:18He wants her validation.
13:19He has essentially replaced his mother with her.
13:26One of Sean's main loves was his computer.
13:32Sean would get on his computer from the time he woke up in the morning.
13:38And way into the night would stay on that computer.
13:45I usually went to bed by myself.
13:49Sometimes I woke up by myself because Sean was on his computer.
13:57Terry secured Sean a day job at the same store where she worked nights.
14:03Well, I wanted him to not rely on his mother so much.
14:08And to make his own money, pay his own bills.
14:11Because she paid all the bills.
14:12She paid the electric bill, everything at the house.
14:16And I wanted him to kind of learn how to fend for himself.
14:22How to take care of himself.
14:24I mean, he was a man by then, you know?
14:29Gilles lasted three weeks in his new job, then quit.
14:34He pretty much wanted to stay on his own.
14:36And you had to interact with people.
14:39And Sean didn't like interacting with people.
14:42That would mean you have to talk to them.
14:44And Sean didn't like talking, not to other people.
14:48He could sit there and carry on a wonderful conversation and talk your head off.
14:53But to talk to someone he didn't know.
14:59That wasn't something he was good at.
15:03There are two kinds of women.
15:06There are the women I love and adore and would die for.
15:10There are the women that are things.
15:15For the next five years, Sean and Terry appeared to live happily ever after.
15:26November 12th, 1999.
15:29Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
15:33Six months after killing Hardy Moseley Schmidt,
15:37Sean Vincent Gillis was hunting down his next target.
15:45It really isn't until his fourth victim, a girl called Joyce Williams, that the full extent of Gillis' extraordinary tendencies
16:02begins to become clear.
16:06It may sound extraordinary to hear, but Gillis was becoming, and probably had by now become, a proper, fully fledged
16:19necrophiliac.
16:19He saw sexual relationships with dead women as more important than any kind of sexual relationship with a live one.
16:2936-year-old Joyce Williams was a drug addict who turned to sex work to feed her habit.
16:37On the night of November 12th, she got in the car with Gillis.
16:42And they were driving and listening to the music and singing, and Joyce made the comment to him that if
16:50I wasn't with anyone else, I'd be feeling nervous right now.
16:55And Sean said, you know, to himself, he thought, hmm, you have no idea.
17:01Gillis drove to a remote area in West Baton Rouge and stopped by a sugarcane field.
17:08And anybody that's ever lived in Louisiana knows if you walk through a sugarcane field, sound is muted.
17:14You can't hear anything.
17:15So this was the perfect place for Sean to bring her.
17:21Gillis strangled Joyce to death.
17:27He put her back into the vehicle, and Joyce was the first victim that he brought back to the house
17:34he shared with Terry.
17:35Sean described how beautiful Joyce's legs were.
17:41He became very obsessed with her legs and began removing her legs.
17:50He utilized a knife and a hacksaw to begin dismembering Joyce.
17:58After Sean dismembered Joyce Williams' body, he delved into cannibalism for the first time.
18:04And decided to see what she tasted like.
18:10Sean cleaned up quickly, putting the dismembered remains of Joyce into large plastic bags and stuffed them in the trunk
18:18of his car.
18:20He then went to pick Terry up at work.
18:23He dropped Terry at home, then drove to a levee, and dumped Joyce's body.
18:29He didn't distribute them across state lines. He wanted them to be found.
18:33But that's his signature. He wanted people to know what he'd done.
18:38And then, even more terrifying, he wanted to get away with it.
18:46In October 2000, Sean was driving through Lafayette when he saw 38-year-old Marilyn Neville's.
18:54He hadn't planned to kill that night. He just couldn't help himself.
18:59That's the only one that I had to get physical with because she broke away and was running across a
19:04lot and there was a car coming.
19:06What?
19:08It was kind of like, you know, well, whatever I could grab, you know what I'm saying?
19:13So what you're saying is what happened?
19:14There was a pipe on the ground. Not even a pipe. It was like a steel rod.
19:20Kind of like rebar, but smoother.
19:23I just picked it up and smack, smack, smack until she quit fighting.
19:28After Sean killed Marilyn Neville's in October of 2000, he stopped killing for a while.
19:36He would not kill again for almost three years.
19:41The reason Sean stopped killing was because another serial killer was operating in Baton Rouge,
19:49and he began to get a lot more media coverage and cause a lot of terror in the city of
19:57Baton Rouge and its surrounding areas.
20:00The other killer was Derek Todd Lee, a predator who targeted women in their homes.
20:08There's no doubt at all that Gillis became increasingly obsessed with Derek Todd Lee, this other serial killer operating in
20:17Baton Rouge at the same time as Gillis.
20:19And Gillis kept a file on him in his computer. He was very interested indeed.
20:25I've always seen that as a kind of competitiveness.
20:28I think he thought, well, I'm going to be every bit as dangerous and as difficult and as frightening as
20:34Derek Todd Lee.
20:36On the 27th of May 2003, Derek Todd Lee was arrested and Sean Vincent Gillis started thinking about killing again.
20:47By October, he was on the prowl in North Baton Rouge when he saw 45-year-old Johnny May Williams.
20:55He was friends with Johnny May. They liked each other.
21:00He had met Johnny May years before and she cleaned his house for him.
21:07They partied together. They smoked weed together.
21:10He even spent one Thanksgiving at Johnny May's house with her family.
21:15It was definitely more of a buddieship and mutual codependency.
21:24Now, she depended on me for money to get her drug a choice and I depended on her while she
21:29was at it to pick up mine.
21:32And I genuinely liked her and it seemed that the feeling was mutual.
21:38And when his friend Johnny May got into his vehicle, they drove around for a while and he drove her
21:46to an area behind Mason's Grill, which is a popular restaurant in Baton Rouge.
21:52And it's a secluded field with woods around it right behind the restaurant and there he beat her, he stabbed
22:02her, he mutilated her body and he also cut off her hands.
22:11To this day, all the faces haunt me, but hers haunts me the most.
22:17I mean, I kissed her and closed her eyes.
22:21In February 2004, Gillis struck again.
22:26He picked up 43-year-old Donna Bennett Johnston in North Baton Rouge.
22:32Donna was a sex worker and an addict.
22:35She was also a mother to five children.
22:39Miss Donna was the only true successful go out for a hunt.
22:45To where I successfully started with a goal.
22:49Captured and killed.
22:51I noticed she was very drunk.
22:53I mean, we're talking drunk, drunk.
22:55You could literally smell the alcohol, the howl, the car.
23:01Sean took Donna to a deserted area off of Scenic Highway.
23:07She just fell back asleep, literally passed out, kind of.
23:13And at that point, it's just, I didn't even need to stealthfully get the tiger out.
23:19I just sort of just casually picked it up, stuck it on her head, pulled her head forward, dropped it
23:25on her, still didn't wake up.
23:29Then she woke up.
23:32He raped her.
23:33He beat her.
23:34He cut off her arm.
23:35And then he saw a tattoo on her thigh, so he cut out the tattoo.
23:44Gilles posed Donna's mutilated body and photographed the scene.
23:49He then placed her in the trunk of his car and continued taking pictures.
23:54He drove off and tossed the tattooed flesh from Donna's body out of the car window.
24:01He had wrapped her arm in a bloody towel and he threw that in a ditch.
24:07So he got rid of Donna's body parts all over in different areas around Baton Rouge.
24:15I think he wanted recognition for his handiwork.
24:18I don't think he was ashamed of it.
24:20I also don't think that he thought he would get caught.
24:24Because by now, and we're in February 2004, he's killed eight women ruthlessly.
24:32Um, he's attacked their bodies.
24:36He has done everything he can to destroy their lives and what anyone would remember of them.
24:45I was interested to find out what it is.
24:49What it is that cocks and turns me into a loaded weapon.
24:55Because if I could find that, I might find some peace.
24:59What it is that cocks and turns me out of the car.
25:02What it is that cocks and turns me out of the car.
25:102004, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
25:15On February 26th, the mutilated body of Donna Bennett Johnston was found.
25:28Donna Bennett Johnston had helped the police numerous times over the years as a police informant.
25:36Um, so when the police found her, they knew who she was and they were shocked to see the condition
25:43of her body and what this killer had done to her.
25:46DNA evidence connected the murder of Donna Bennett Johnston to Catherine Hall and Johnny May Williams.
25:54Police had to face the fact that Baton Rouge had another serial killer.
26:01In March 2004, a task force was formed.
26:06There was a lot of, um, going back through the evidence, going back through the cold cases, reviewing, uh, witness
26:13statements, evidence that had been, uh, recovered and looking at the crime scene photographs, trying to determine, um, whom we
26:21were looking for.
26:22While processing the crime scene of Donna Bennett Johnston, police focused on a tire imprint left at the scene.
26:31A tire casting, uh, was obtained of that.
26:34And research was done with local tire dealerships, which identified the potentially that that, uh, tread pattern matched the Goodyear
26:41Aqua Tread 3 tire.
26:43The Louisiana police take great interest in this tire track because it's a very rare one.
26:52Good old fashioned police work.
26:55They identify the fact that only 90 of these tires have been sold in Louisiana and they go through meticulously
27:05tracking whose tires they were.
27:09And that's how they begin to find the trail that leads them to Sean Vincent Gillis' door.
27:18I had just gotten off of work and they, uh, they wanted to bring Sean down to the station to
27:26talk to him.
27:26Um, they were, uh, interviewing everyone that had a Chevy Cavalier because evidently tire tracks were found at one of
27:35the, uh, the crime scenes.
27:38Gilles agreed to go to the police station for questioning.
27:42Sean said, I want Terry to know where I'm at in case it gets dark and I'm not back home.
27:47I thought that was, uh, very interesting, uh, that he was worried about not coming back home.
27:53As we were, uh, walking out the residence and standing in the driveway talking to Sean for a minute, he
27:58said, do you mind if I smoke a cigarette?
28:00Sean dropped the cigarette on the driveway, extinguished it with his foot and said, quote, let's go get this shit
28:08over with.
28:10Uh, and right then I said, man, this is the guy.
28:17At the police station, Gillis voluntarily provided a DNA swab.
28:22They questioned him about the tire tracks at the Donna Bennett Johnson crime scene.
28:28The night, um, you stopped there to use the bathroom, what kind of vehicle were you driving?
28:33I was driving my vehicle.
28:35What? Chevy Cavalier.
28:36Chevy Cavalier. Okay.
28:38So I pulled back, stepped out, did my business, shook, looked, got in the car and left, and came back
28:45out this way toward Burbank again.
28:48And then where'd you go?
28:49You said, you told me earlier today that you were on your way home from a friend's house.
28:54Mm-hmm.
28:55And you had to go to the bathroom.
28:57I don't understand, I mean, but your house is just right over here.
29:01When you get an urge, and I mean, it's just one of those things I'd had, I'd had a few,
29:06you know, a few beers, and then all of a sudden my bladder was just like, uh, uh, uh, uh,
29:12uh.
29:12Well, I mean, it'd be quicker for you to go to the bathroom to your house and to go out
29:15here.
29:16No, it wouldn't have been, it got too red.
29:18You got, well, yeah, one red light there.
29:20After I got through this red light, I would have had to go through another one.
29:24Yeah.
29:25Do you know why we're talking?
29:30We're talking because you had some tire tracks that possibly came from my car there.
29:37Yeah, it's, it's possible.
29:40And, um, from those tracks, it appears she was unloaded from that vehicle and thrown into that canal.
29:51She was not unloaded from my vehicle.
29:55Gilles had placed himself at the crime scene with an unconvincing story of needing to relieve himself.
30:03Later that afternoon, Sean was returned back to his residence.
30:06Once we had, uh, all the surveillance in place, his vehicle had been towed to the state police crime lab,
30:11while we continued to wait for his, uh, DNA profile, uh, to be obtained by the crime lab.
30:18Like I said, normally he never got off his computer.
30:21He actually turned the computer off and sat and watched TV with me that evening.
30:27And, and came to bed the same time I did.
30:32You're actually spending the evening with me.
30:34I said, so what did you do?
30:37The police waited anxiously for the DNA results from the crime lab.
30:43The bubble swab, which had been obtained from, uh, Sean Gillis, uh, produced a DNA profile, which matched the profiles,
30:53uh, left at the crime scenes of Catherine Hall, Johnny May Williams, and Donna Bennett Johnson.
31:04And about the same time that we laid our head down on the pillow in the bed, that's when the
31:13police broke through the door and arrested him.
31:19When they told me they'd come to arrest a serial killer, I just, I laughed at them.
31:26I actually laughed out loud and said, boy, have you got the wrong house.
31:33Sean was brought back to the police station, accompanied by Terry.
31:40At what point did, uh, did these women start to piss you off?
31:52At what point did these women start to piss me off?
32:01You believe me if I say no point?
32:05Sure, I believe you.
32:06I believe anything you tell me.
32:08I think you're a straight shooter.
32:13How did this come to be, man?
32:17Does the word monster come to mind?
32:19Pardon?
32:20Does the word monster come to mind?
32:23No.
32:24Have you discussed any of this with your wife?
32:27No.
32:32And I asked him straight up, did you do everything they're telling me that you did?
32:42And this geeky little guy that I had just adored all these years just kind of hung his head
32:50and turned it to the side and looked at me, those big blue eyes, and said, yeah, honey bunny, I
32:57did all that.
33:02And I, I turned around and left.
33:16He was very forthcoming, but he wanted to tell his story also, too.
33:21Um, you know, he wanted to enjoy the limelight, uh, describing everything he had done.
33:28I doubt I'll be as interesting as Charlie Manson.
33:31Well, I'll leave that to the experts.
33:38Let's, let's get back to Catherine.
33:43How, how did that encounter begin?
33:46Had you ever been with Catherine before?
33:49I've never seen Catherine before.
33:51Just a chancing car?
33:54The ship's in the night.
33:56How long did you drive without your vehicle?
34:02A while.
34:05Tell me.
34:06An inordinate amount of time.
34:12Driving to the end of the world, if I could.
34:17Any more you help us clear, it, it can't hurt you.
34:21It cannot possibly hurt you any worse than this.
34:28There were others, weren't there?
34:32Let's, let's just get it out, man.
34:37As the police sat here and listened to him recount everything he had done,
34:43and he knew details of those murders that had not been released to the public.
34:48And, so while they thought they were arresting him for three murders,
34:52he confessed to eight.
34:56The next day prior to interviewing Sean,
34:59uh, we had contacted the public defender's office,
35:02uh, requested a public defender to come and, uh, speak with Sean,
35:06just to make sure Sean understood that, uh, he had the right to remain solid.
35:12But you just said these urges are strong and they're very powerful.
35:15They're strong and they get stronger
35:18the longer you go without a successful mission.
35:23I mean, there have been days where I would have grabbed someone right off the street.
35:27If there would have been someone available to,
35:29I mean, literally grab them off the street.
35:31Sometimes I would follow along, not really following her to rape her or something,
35:35but just because I liked the way she walked.
35:37Literally.
35:39Once she got in the car, I mean, it was obvious she was a hooker, you know?
35:43So the, uh, the discussion quickly went to how much, you know, for what, you know?
35:48Mm-hmm.
35:49And, uh, we ended up settling on $10.
35:52She was a woman of low means, I guess.
35:58He, he just keeps talking and, and goes on and on,
36:02and the, the confession tapes are around 40 hours in total.
36:06But what we've got to remember is for the first time in his life,
36:10Gillis is being listened to.
36:11He has an audience and he wants to keep that audience.
36:16I was methodical in the way that I would get my victim.
36:20Yeah.
36:20I was methodical in a lot of things.
36:22But when it came down to the actual, it was helter skelter.
36:25I mean...
36:26Was there any kind of plan that you had worked out in your mind on this one?
36:31Not really.
36:31I mean, what did I say?
36:32As far as, as to the actual...
36:35But as far as the...
36:36Subduing.
36:37Yeah.
36:37Killing.
36:38That was pretty much...
36:40It was, uh, the, as far as the, any of the ritualistic acts as y'all put it,
36:45as it's defined, there was nothing, nothing meticulous like that.
36:48I mean, literally, it was pretty much slash slash dump and forget.
36:53When police sprayed luminol in the kitchen of Sean Vincent Gillis,
37:00where he had taken several of his victims and dismembered their bodies,
37:05um, the floor lit up like a Christmas tree.
37:08It was unbelievable how much blood had been...
37:12He had tried to clean up out of that kitchen.
37:16But more telling.
37:1845 photographs of Donna Johnston.
37:21Endless pictures of the other victims, often naked,
37:25often in the back of his car.
37:27Paraphernalia, zip ties that he's used to kill.
37:30Endless amounts of absolutely critical evidence.
37:37Gillis was eventually charged with several counts
37:41of both first- and second-degree murder.
37:43He faced years of multi-jurisdictional litigation.
37:47He escaped the death penalty
37:49and was sentenced to serve three consecutive life sentences.
37:55I think that what they heard in that courtroom was so inhumane
38:01and so unable to be comprehended by any normal human being
38:08that the only alternative was this person cannot be saved.
38:13Because although he was perfectly fine with killing all of these other people,
38:18he didn't want to die himself.
38:20It's hard to believe that it was occurring here in Baton Rouge
38:23and we had Sean living in our society
38:26and him not being on anyone's radar.
38:30It was almost a year later that I found out everything he had done.
38:36And sometimes I still can't fathom that.
38:41Because that is just not the person I knew.
38:46That's not the Sean I knew.
38:50I thought you understood this about me that
38:54if I could do this without taking a life
38:57but still have the remnants of a life,
39:01I would.
39:03When Sean Vincent Gillis selected a victim,
39:06they were already dead to him.
39:08He didn't see them as human.
39:10He went beyond killing.
39:12He destroyed women in the most depraved way possible,
39:16making Sean Vincent Gillis one of the world's most evil killers.
39:21he would be nice.
39:24I'll see you later.
39:26We'll see you later.
39:27Bye.
39:27Bye.
39:34Bye.
39:38Bye.
39:40Bye.
39:43Bye.