00:00You may be able to help me, and this may feature, who knows, because this is an international story.
00:04Because of you both being here, I looked into the international files, not covered by our Ministry of Defence, but
00:09maybe covered by yours.
00:10This took place in Arizona, an unidentified pilot, according to the press cuttings, flying near an airport in Arizona with
00:17his son when he spotted six lights in the night sky.
00:21So he called from the aeroplane to air traffic control to say, I'm seeing these lights here, I wasn't expecting
00:28any other planes, there are none to see.
00:30It's supposed to be on my landing path, can you tell me what's going on?
00:33They said, there are no other planes.
00:35He said, I'm seeing six bright lights coming towards me.
00:40Mystery unresolved.
00:43Except, tail number for that plane was Bonanza 2 Tango Sierra, and I was the pilot.
00:49No way!
00:51Oliver and I...
00:53Dun, dun, dun!
00:55Doesn't say that in the briefing.
00:57I should have read to the end.
01:00Oliver and I were flying in, I was flying him to go see his girlfriend.
01:05And we were on approach, and I saw six lights over the airport, an absolute uniform in a V-shape.
01:14And I, and Oliver said to me, I was just looking at him, and I was coming in, we're maybe
01:17a half a mile out, and Oliver said,
01:19Pa, do you, what are those lights?
01:21And I, and I, then it kind of like came out of my reverie, and I said, I don't know
01:25what they are.
01:26I said, he said, are we okay here?
01:28And I said, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to call him, and I reported it.
01:31And they said, we're not painting anything, we don't show anything.
01:33I said, well, okay, I'm, I'm going to declare, it's unidentified, it's flying, and it's six objects.
01:40We landed, I taxied, dropped him off, took off, went back to L.A.
01:48Never said a word, he never said a word, I never thought of it.
01:52Two years later, Goldie is watching a television show when I came home.
01:57And the show is on UFOs.
01:59But as I'm, I came home, hey honey, how's it going?
02:02And I'm kind of hearing this, the TV going, and I stopped, and I started watching, and it was on
02:05that event.
02:07Now that was the most, that was the most viewed UFO event.
02:11Over 20,000 people saw that.
02:13And I'm watching this, and I'm feeling like Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters of the Third Count.
02:21It's like, why, why do I know this, you know?
02:24And it's not clear to me.
02:27And finally I said, then they said, the pilot reported it, a general aviation pilot reported it on landing.
02:34I'd never thought of it since then, and I said,
02:38that was me, that was me.
02:41And I said, wait a minute, I'll go to my logbooks.
02:44So I went to my logbooks, and there was the flight at that time,
02:48and I didn't mention anything about the UFO.
02:50The fascinating part of that to me is that it just went literally out of my head.
02:56And Oliver never mentioned it.
02:58And had I not seen that show, I'd have never thought of it again.
03:01And that to me was the weird part.
03:03Believe in how, Chris?
03:05Yes.
03:05Yes.
03:05I'm convinced.
03:07It's just unidentified.
03:08It's just unidentified.
03:10It's flying, and it's...
03:11And it's an object.
03:11It's an object.
03:12Yeah.
03:13Moving towards you at this...
03:14We need to move on.
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