00:00What is it like to watch your friend in front of a live audience?
00:04Oh, it's so satisfying. It's like, you know what they don't know, and you're ready for them to go off
00:13those clips, and yeah, and feeling people reacting.
00:20You know, I come from performance, from doing music, and that's the closest I can get to that, you know.
00:29You know, like, just put it on streaming, somebody's music, and you don't know what it is.
00:35Is that still a nerve-wracking experience for you, or not anymore?
00:39No, I mean, in this case, we've worked on this for a long time.
00:44I'm pretty confident in how it's working. So, yeah, it can be, but in this case, it's not.
00:52You told us in our cover story that you wanted to bring out a different side of Piki Palmer.
00:58Can you tell us about that, and how you directed her to bring that out?
01:02We just talked a lot about her feelings and everything that's happening.
01:09We just talked a lot about her, and you know, I observed her, and, yeah, and just, you know, the
01:20real answer is I don't exactly know, but we're just, you know, I just kept her in the moment when
01:28we were in conversations.
01:32There's actually a couple times when, you know, you get that boom, boom, that's Piki Palmer right there.
01:38But most of the time, it's just a wavelength that she's on anyway that maybe normally other times gets carved
01:50out of the moon.
01:51And we just let her be there.
01:55The film is in part about labor struggle, which is something that our industry is experiencing.
02:01Why is this the right film for Hollywood at this moment?
02:05Oh, I'm concerned about way more than Hollywood.
02:09Hollywood is a very small part of it.
02:12I hate it, so I am also concerned.
02:15But what I'm looking at is tools for how we might be able to change what's around us.
02:25How we might be able to have some say-so so it's not just about getting the person on top
02:35who's good or bad or whatever, right?
02:37I think it's about creating tools that we can use to fight fashion.
02:44Creating tools that we can use to make our lives better.
02:51And figuring out a way for us to be connected to each other.
02:55It's really, I think, you know, a really good movement.
03:04In the end, it's a certain way about fighting loneliness.
03:08About fighting alienation in isolation.
03:12And I think that, you know, a big part of this movement is that.
03:18One thing, I follow you on Twitter.
03:20And one thing I've noticed is you've already started to sort of combat people
03:24about the message of the film.
03:26The film is not out yet.
03:28Well, some of that is just regular racist crap.
03:32Like, oh, there's black women stealing.
03:36Look at how immoral this movie is.
03:39Meanwhile, we've got every fake heist movie in the world.
03:44And everything that doesn't get called immoral.
03:49We've got movies that are straight funded and or sponsored by the CIA.
03:57About extrajudicial killings.
04:02About mass murder.
04:03About all these things.
04:05And they make them seem right.
04:09Or at the very least, unfortunately necessary.
04:15So I already knew that that was going to be true.
04:18Actually, what this movie is coming out at a time when news all over the place
04:24is making people think that the big problem in the world is small crime like this.
04:34Because in a lab, it's actually The Intercept did an article about it a few years ago.
04:41An investigative article that showed that all of these police unions were spending money on publicists
04:47to put stories in the news that said, okay, that said, here's why you need more police.
04:54So that happened after George Floyd.
04:56And so you start seeing all of these things.
04:59And people are up in arms about stuff.
05:02Even when crime rates are going down.
05:05So it was an expected reaction.
05:09And this is something that you satirize in the film with the news power.
05:14The last thing I want to ask you.
05:16It's a movie about fashion.
05:18Can you tell me about your outfit tonight?
05:21And, you know, what is the thought that goes on?
05:25I don't know.
05:26You just try to look good.
05:27I wear this hat partly because I've been, like, known for my hair for 20-something years.
05:34My hair line is starting to start checking out.
05:40So I've been wearing hats.
05:46This is from Uptown Yardy.
05:48That really hooks me up.
05:51And then this is this thing I got from this vintage store in Oakland called Riva.
05:58And then this is something that this, that, that, that, uh, uh, stylist Dwayne, uh, Brown, uh, hooked me up
06:11with.
06:11Uh, and then these shoes that were given to me.
06:16So.
06:16Cool.
06:17Well, thanks so much, Mitch. Congratulations.
06:19None of them are from Boosters, unfortunately.
06:21Yeah.
06:22Yeah.
06:23That would have been much good.
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