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00:00So what grade would you give the Cowboys through a week-ish of free agency?
00:06And this includes everything, like the trades and all of that, like the whole deal.
00:10What are you thinking? Or I'll just tell you my grade straight away.
00:13Okay, yeah, go ahead and tell me your grade, because I think here's, when it comes to grading,
00:19expectation versus what you're getting is a big factor here.
00:23And most holos right now are going, you said bust the budget.
00:28When somebody says bust the budget or all-in, and that somebody is Jerry Jones,
00:33I look at everybody and go, you know better than to buy in.
00:36So I'm judging it based on what I needed from this team, but I'd like to hear your grade for
00:42sure.
00:42Yeah, so I went with, and I hope this makes sense, I went with a C+, and then I
00:50put maybe.
00:51So, and one of the, by the way, I believe he's talking about his own show, potentially a hack for,
01:01uh...
01:03What is happening right now?
01:05Potentially a hack for the Dallas Card Show.
01:08The man who runs it...
01:10On Twitter?
01:11No, he texted me.
01:12He said parking, you should park in like, maybe an empty parking lot, like a Target and Uber over for
01:17$5.
01:18So, like, if you're looking for a parking hack right there for the Dallas Card Show, there you go!
01:24And it's from the guy who runs the Dallas Card Show, so I think it should be fine.
01:28Is it because parking's kind of gotten...
01:30Parking can be tough here, because it's so popular.
01:35All right, so I said C+, maybe.
01:39And then I wanted to ask you...
01:40Why maybe?
01:40Like, it can be better or it can be worse?
01:43I think it, I mean, it can definitely be better, but I think I might be talking myself into worse
01:48because of the conversation you and I had before the show yesterday.
01:51How many starters did they add defensively?
01:54Best case scenario, two.
01:57Is what I'm feeling right now.
02:00And with room to add more.
02:02Yes.
02:03Now, and actually, I think they added another one last night.
02:06We'll talk in the C block about him a little bit.
02:10But at the moment, yeah, I would say three, as a matter of fact.
02:13In this moment, I think three.
02:15All right, because...
02:17But a lot of people don't know the third one that well, so they're like, I don't have a clue
02:21who that guy is.
02:23So, for the Cowboys, you know, we said they were going to fidget with the cap number for Rashawn Gary,
02:31right?
02:31Man, they did something really fascinating.
02:33They added a bunch of void years.
02:36Yeah, I need to double-check that.
02:38The reason I know that is because of Alec.
02:40Yeah, I was looking at the numbers, and it makes way more sense how it should be three.
02:44But I need to look specifically at what those void years look like.
02:48But the most important thing is they dropped the cap number for Rashawn Gary from 19.5 to 5.4
02:56million.
02:57Now, that includes a bonus of $13.2 million, and that's how you're able to kind of spread that, especially
03:05with the void years.
03:06But going forward, you're not going to be eating a whole lot of money.
03:10Let's just say this year is a disaster for whatever reason.
03:14You're not going to be eating a whole bunch of money, hardly any potentially going forward after this.
03:21But we said with no guaranteed money, it's left on the deal.
03:24It's the same thing they did with Kenny Clark.
03:26You're able to way lower that deal.
03:29So when people are like, he's going to make the same as Micah, he's $5.4 million.
03:33Do you think – so where are we cap-wise right now exactly?
03:38Where are – like how – because I'm trying to figure a couple different things out.
03:41Now, where are we cap-wise before Pickens?
03:47Before Pickens, I think you should have $27 million.
03:54Just enough to sign George Pickens to a $27 million deal.
03:57Exactly.
03:58And that's why I hate that because you can't fidget with that money.
04:01And we still haven't pulled any levers on anything else.
04:04What else do we have to pull levers on?
04:06Quinnen.
04:07Okay.
04:07If you wanted to do a contract extension, you could fidget with that.
04:11Because Quinnen's cap hit is $21 million this year.
04:16Oh, this was before – I'm sorry.
04:18This was before the Rashawn Gary transformation.
04:22So I don't know why I said that.
04:25So that saves you another $14 million.
04:29So I've got about – you've got $14 million.
04:33If you keep Pickens on the tag, you've got $14 million.
04:37If you sign him long-term, now you could probably have $24 million.
04:39If you restructure Quinnen, now you could have $30-something million.
04:43I appreciate you, Kevin.
04:44You don't want to do that.
04:45I do.
04:46Oh, okay.
04:46They don't.
04:47Okay.
04:48You're right.
04:48All right.
04:49I think they're looking – their decision on George Pickens has a lot to do with that.
04:53And they're like, we have just enough.
04:55Okay.
04:55And we're going to do that.
04:56And we're going to go forward with this.
04:57We're going to draft some players.
04:59And then, you know what, here's the next phase.
05:02Right.
05:02These post-June 1 cuts, these other guys that will come later down the road – I'm sorry,
05:07these other guys that will be cut from their teams during training camp and stuff like that.
05:10They're going to look at those.
05:12And they're going to look at these other places where they can pick up some guys.
05:15Then I'll say you have about $14 million, maybe $13.5 million is what you're looking at.
05:25If you want to do something with Quinnen Williams, you can.
05:30You could probably do something with Jake Ferguson as well.
05:33I don't know if they're looking to do that.
05:35Is there any incentive to not doing something with Quinnen now and doing it down the road?
05:40Yes.
05:41The thought that you just don't think he's going to make it that far.
05:45Like, that's the logic, right?
05:47If you don't think Quinnen Williams is going to be a viable player for you in two years, don't do
05:54it.
05:54Okay.
05:55So kind of like Zach Martin, knowing him $15 million or whatever.
05:58By the way, so a couple of things about the cap.
06:01One, I swear I'm not trying to be funny about it.
06:04I just think this is some BS right there, unless they get an exemption or whatever.
06:08But you know Zach Martin?
06:09I thought he was up.
06:10He counts $16.5 million against your cap this year.
06:14And that's something I kind of think is some BS, man.
06:17Zach Martin, he wanted to get paid appropriately, but he did kind of shake down the Dallas Cowboys.
06:24And also, the Dallas Cowboys take a lot of blame for the way they set up this deal and how
06:29much money they already owed him because of all the switches they had pulled.
06:33Because every year, Zach Martin was a contract.
06:36They were like, oh, we can flip that switch.
06:37And you want to be careful of that because guess what?
06:39Zach Martin, he wanted more money at a time that he deserved it, but also I think at a time
06:44he kind of knew maybe he was going to retire.
06:46This might be my last grab here.
06:48Yeah, and guess what?
06:48So you've been sitting on like a $30 million cap hit for Zach Martin broken up over the last two
06:54years.
06:54And I think that's some BS.
06:56Also –
06:56If I'm Zach Martin, I'm probably sitting there thinking, you know what?
06:59That's my payment for never getting me to a Super Bowl.
07:01I mean, you might be right.
07:03And also, it's not Zach Martin's fault that we haven't been able to navigate the salary cap, and that's why
07:10we had to keep flipping those switches.
07:11But here's the other thing.
07:12I'm going to find out if you get an exemption from the league, but do you know next year Marshawn
07:17Nealon counts $1.8 million against the cap?
07:21Really feels like there should be some sort of mechanism in place to be like, man, he died, which is
07:27awful.
07:28Yeah.
07:28But also the NFL is still like, sorry, that counts.
07:31Yeah, that's interesting.
07:34I don't know if that's ever been brought up.
07:36I wonder if the Cowboys have ever brought that up or if that's ever happened in the past where it
07:40was brought up and the league was just like, that's just part of the thing.
07:43If it has, I'm just not familiar with it.
07:46Now, in terms of the grade from the 214, somebody said a solid B.
07:52We got a couple of B minuses, which I understand.
07:55And going back to my grade of a C+, I know you said maybe we got another starter.
07:59But when we were looking at the defensive roster, especially the way they're going to run this scheme, I was
08:06like, how many starters do you still need?
08:08You might still need a left defensive end.
08:10I mean, you do.
08:12Another top-notch edge.
08:15Maybe another two inside linebackers, one of which is going to be a starter.
08:19Probably two more corners, one of which is going to be a starter.
08:22And maybe another safety.
08:23So, like, the thing that panicked me about the C+, is do you still need five defensive starters?
08:29Yes.
08:29Or at least four?
08:30Yeah.
08:30No, that's why I'm going to C.
08:32I get it.
08:33And I could C on the very high end.
08:37Like, the highest I could get is B minus.
08:39And that is if all of these guys play to the highest level that they can play, I would give
08:44them a B minus.
08:45But a C at the moment is where I stand on.
08:48And I know people are like, not low enough.
08:50It's a D.
08:51It's an F.
08:52I get it because you all expected Max Crosby.
08:54Right.
08:55You should have known better is what I like to say.
08:57And, like, I was – I never got my hopes up for that.
09:01And so that's why another thing is I just – I'm not there.
09:04And that's why I'm not frustrated by it either because I never expected it to actually happen.
09:08And, in fact, Kevin, I always expected them to offer just enough to not get the guy.
09:13Yeah.
09:13And that's kind of how I felt was – and, again, we appreciate the discipline.
09:18But I knew exactly where they stood on that.
09:21So, yeah, I'm at a C right now because Rashawn Gary is going to be –
09:25I think he's going to be fun to watch alongside Kenny Clark.
09:27He's excited.
09:28He's excited to be here.
09:29He likes what Christian Parker is doing.
09:31I liked hearing P.J. Locke say we're going to be fine because of what Christian Parker's attention to detail
09:37is
09:38when it comes to this defense.
09:39A lot is going to ride on the coach.
09:41And you know what?
09:42If you can keep that coach around for a little bit,
09:44maybe they'll add more players to the mix that are these other dudes.
09:47Yeah.
09:47But a lot is going to ride on what that guy can provide with the coaching of these players.
09:52By the way, somebody asked, yes, that does include the tender numbers.
09:56So, like, if – I'm not saying this would happen, but if somebody came along and said,
10:01I want Aubrey or I want Bass, then theoretically you could have two more second-round picks
10:07and about $25 million in cap space.
10:09Some of that goes to your draft pool, of course, but gives you, you know, some flex to do something.
10:15And ultimately, Kevin, we want four tenders, not three, you know?
10:22Yes.
10:22I think you're talking in the food space, I believe.
10:27We're the K&C Masterpiece.
10:29Six is the best, but four over three every time.
10:32Okay.
10:33Yeah.
10:34Yeah.
10:35Do you feel like chicken places – this is your fault.
10:37Do you feel like chicken places give you just short of what you really want
10:42and then the next option is way too much food because they're like, hey, I got a three-piece meal,
10:47and you're like, man, I love a four-piece.
10:49I know some places have four-piece meals, of course.
10:51But other places are like, so you can get the three-piece or you can get a bucket of eight.
10:54Yeah.
10:54You're like, come on, man.
10:56Yeah.
10:56Well, again, six, I can eat three, maybe four in that sitting,
11:00but those other two are going to go in the fridge later.
11:03So I'm not having that in that one sitting.
11:05Now I've got to start doing Kevin math.
11:08All right.
11:08Is that two different meals?
11:09Can I split it into two threes and have two meals for a lesser price?
11:14Then I want to go pay it for another meal.
11:16Yeah, probably so.
11:17And then from the 682, can you not sign Zach Martin to that one-day contract
11:21and give him all the money?
11:22The issue is you've already given him the money.
11:24You don't need to give him anything.
11:27Yeah, it's just the way you structured that money.
11:29They just kept pushing it down the road.
11:31And look, that's why they re-signed Dak.
11:34Make no mistake about it.
11:35They could not re-sign Dak because they still owed him $45 million.
11:39So if you would have let Dak walk, his cap hit would have been $45 million,
11:42and you would have looked like idiots.
11:44All right.
11:44When he gets to the end of his contract and retires, though,
11:48how much are you going to owe him after that?
11:50Hold on.
11:51Let me look that up.
11:51You could have owed him only $45 million.
11:53Yeah.
11:53I feel like you're going to owe him $60 million, $90 million.
11:57Because, I mean, look, because whenever you hear, whenever you hear,
12:01and I know we've got to go, Alec, I'm sorry, but whenever you hear,
12:04they're like, oh, you know, they restructured his contract.
12:06Now his cap hits lower.
12:07And you're like, why don't you do that all the freaking time?
12:10So do you know, like, if he were to retire after the age of 35,
12:15you would still owe him $17 million on the cap if, for some reason,
12:20Oh, that's not as bad as it's done.
12:22Okay.
12:23Well, I mean.
12:23It's actually better than I expected.
12:25That is until the next two years, because guess what his cap hit is in 2027?
12:31$76 million.
12:32Guess what his cap hit is in 2028?
12:36$86 million.
12:38So Dak Prescott's cap hit the next two years is $162 million.
12:44You know they're going to change that.
12:45He's going to have to play quarterback for the Cowboys for the next 95 years.
12:48At this rate, it does kind of feel like that.
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