00:00Myth and ambition, maybe that's what Out of America is built on.
00:12So, one of the first thing that we see is the Hollywood sign on your model.
00:18The house is full of pictures that nobody sees and there's a piano that nobody plays.
00:25So, I want to ask you, do you believe that, as they say, cinema and art, as we know them,
00:32will end with this generation?
00:34No, not with this generation. Absolutely not.
00:38No, I think there's much more hope than that.
00:40I think, hopefully, with the awareness that we all have about the things that we need to change, we can
00:47continue.
00:48There will be many generations who live differently to us, but many generations to come.
00:54And I think they're going to do amazing things.
00:57I think it's, yeah, I have total faith that we will continue to create.
01:07Michael Shannon's character says that that's the point, building a country.
01:12I want to know if you can answer, what do you believe was America built on?
01:20As a Brit, I don't know.
01:22Like, I think, yeah, I'm aware that I'm talking about a culture and a country that's not my own.
01:30But from an outsider's point of view, I think America was built on ambition.
01:39And that's also not a criticism.
01:42We premiered this film in Telluride Film Festival, and the landscape of that country is so extraordinary, of that city,
01:50I mean, but the countryside.
01:52And just thinking the people who harness that, the people who got over those mountains, on those wagons, harnessing those
02:01horses, the people who mined those mountains.
02:04I mean, what incredible graft and also what terrible things were done to get those people to that place.
02:13And also, where were those people coming from?
02:14It's an immigrant nation as well.
02:16So, like, I think it's, I think there's a whole lot of ambition and also the storytelling that goes with
02:23America.
02:24Because America was one thing and it has been re-identified by the people who have populated it since the
02:30indigenous.
02:31And although, of course, the indigenous are still there, but there's a sort of mythic quality to America.
02:42So I'd say, like, myth and ambition, maybe that's what America is built on.
02:47That's a great line.
02:49And you have a flash dance moment in this movie.
02:53Instead of a water shower, you have a salt shower.
02:57I was having a flash dance moment.
02:59It was salty in my case.
03:02Very salty.
03:03Sore eyes.
03:04Very sore eyes.
03:06And very thirsty afterwards.
03:09But no, I loved that moment.
03:12I like kind of quite theatrical performances.
03:15That's the stuff I've been really inspired by watching things growing up.
03:19So to get the chance to do something a bit more theatrical in that moment with Sun was good fun.
03:24And speaking about theatrical performances, you have also a Sméagol versus Gollum moment because you are talking to yourself and
03:32you don't agree with yourself.
03:34So I was doing that scene too.
03:35It was good because it sort of launches into the song.
03:40Yeah, I mean, the Sun is a fantastic character because with all his innocence is this sort of real kind
03:45of like bottled up, pent up darkness as well.
03:48So, you know, it just, it's so often a kind of hidden spectrum that he's on of emotion, but kind
03:58of finding moments where you could sort of show one end of the spectrum and then kind of leap to
04:03the other very quickly is always as a joy, you know, because so often in life we're sort of teaching
04:08ourselves not to do that.
04:09So it was kind of a thrill within the safety of the story to do it.
04:15Music here is used as a stream of consciousness because each character can tell the truth and they can tell
04:21the truth only to themselves when they sing.
04:24So do you agree? Even in real life, sometimes we can only tell the truth through a song, through music.
04:31Yeah, I mean, we can tell the truth any time. I think like there's a certain thing that comes with
04:37singing, regardless of what the lyrics are saying.
04:41I think there's, you know, making that noise is as truthful as anything.
04:47There's something very pure and something very pure about singing and also singing together was lovely.
04:56So I'd say like, yes, totally. I think we can be honest any time, but there is a sort of
05:02a beautiful kind of like emotionality that comes with singing.
05:05And that's that can be separate from the lyrics that can be just making a noise as well.
05:10Thank you so much. Thank you.
05:12Thank you.
05:35Thank you.
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