00:00I think we can say something political through by showing people's emotion, emotional character as well, which is a complicated
00:07way of saying, yes, it is political.
00:19So, thanks to Sunja, Pachinko shows to the world the Korean diaspora, and I must admit, I didn't know much
00:28before the show.
00:30Thinking about that, do you consider your work also as political?
00:35I think it's impossible for something not to be political.
00:39I think every work exhibits the times that we live in.
00:46Zain, I think you have a story about people who left Korea to live in a country that didn't want
00:52them, you know, facing those racial and systemic barriers.
00:57It's definitely political, but I would say, I don't think we ever intended out with a political agenda, because I
01:03find that kind of storytelling sort of sometimes force-fed.
01:07I think we can say something political through by showing people's emotional character as well, which is a complicated way
01:15of saying, yes, it is political.
01:19Jean, one of the aspects I love the most about Pachinko is that the show takes its time, but it
01:25never wastes it, because the writing is really brilliant.
01:29As an actor, how does it help you?
01:32Oh, if the writing is good?
01:35Yes, the writing is really good.
01:36And I think that maybe it can help an actor when you have a script that is so valid.
01:44Yeah, yeah.
01:45Oh, that's everything to me.
01:47Script is the Bible for me.
01:49I don't know.
01:50Maybe it's...
01:52I'm sure it's common, but I feel like my background in theater training is really what informs my relationship to
01:59the script.
01:59So for me, it's, you know, a script can, especially on TV and films, it will always be morphing and
02:05changing as we're going along.
02:07But regardless, I always look to the script as my guide.
02:11If I ever have any questions or things I don't, I'm curious about, or I don't know, have the answers
02:17to, it's...
02:18I've always been taught it's in the script.
02:19It's in the script and it's in my scene partner.
02:23And it's such a relief.
02:27It's such a relief to be able to trust and believe in the depth and the layers and the power
02:36of the writing.
02:38Because I don't have to worry about it.
02:39Do you know what I mean?
02:42On other projects where, you know, it might be like there's maybe there's more improvising or maybe there's the script
02:46is like really being written as we're shooting.
02:48Like there's a fun to that and there's a delight and a joy of like finding things in that type
02:54of a process.
02:55But with something as complex and as wide as an epic as Pachinko is, it was such...
03:06I was so grateful to have this really clear and really well-structured map for how to prepare for and
03:18execute the different moments for Solomon throughout the season.
03:25I think that the second season is even more focused on a theme such as memory and identity.
03:32And I think that food is an incredible tool you use to talk about these themes.
03:39I would like to know how important is food for you?
03:42Because I think about kimchi, I think about tofu and rice.
03:46And I would like to know for you how important is food in the storytelling, because even if I'm Italian,
03:53I completely understand Sunja and all the other characters feeling because I felt the same with my traditional dishes from
04:04Italy.
04:04That means something for me as a person, not just for eating food, you know what I mean.
04:11What does it mean for you?
04:15You know what's funny is I've always, growing up, I've always heard comparisons between Italy and Korea because of our
04:20love of food.
04:21There was always like, it was always a sense of like, food is the central part of so much, of
04:28community, of relationships, of family, etc, etc.
04:32And that emphasis really comes through beautifully, I think, in our show, because of all, I mean, A, how the
04:38food and the kitchen and the work is shot is beautiful, but also all the conversations and events that occur
04:45around food, the celebrations or the morning, all of that.
04:49It's, it's, it's, I love that you pointed that out, because I think that's such a recurring and important theme.
04:55But another thing that Sue told me early on was a comparison, I mean, this is Italian American, obviously, but
05:02you know, the Godfather was a huge influence, I think, in how you thought about structuring, especially Godfather 2, because
05:09it jumps back and forth between the two timelines.
05:12And so in similar fashion, I think there's a beautiful intricacy in the storytelling, cinematically by, by following that, but
05:19yeah, there's, it's, anyway, yeah, food.
05:23Thank you so much for your time and congratulations, because I think that Pacinko is the best show on the
05:28air now.
05:29Thank you so much.
05:31Thank you.
05:31Thank you.
05:32Thank you.
05:33Bye.
05:33Bye-bye.
05:50Bye-bye.
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