00:09La sua è stata una famiglia di filantropi, ma quanto ne so, lei non fa nulla.
00:23Bruce Wayne è davvero questionato in questo film. Penguin pensa che è solo un billionaire, Catwoman ha parlato di privilegiare,
00:32quindi in tempi come questo, dobbiamo questionare più di Bruce Wayne che di Batman, in vostra opinione?
00:40I don't know who the Batmen are in our world. I don't know. I mean, yeah, question everyone, question everything.
00:50I don't trust anyone. I don't trust any news outlet or any person who's claiming to be coming from a
00:57purely humanitarian direction.
00:58I think suspicion is becoming, you know, it can go a little bit too far sometimes, and I don't know
01:06where that line is, where suspicion goes from justified suspicion or curiosity into paranoia.
01:13I don't know where that line is. It's ever shifting. And that's a really hard thing to contend with, especially
01:18in this modern world where there's so much information and so many different perspectives are coming at us with so
01:24much speed.
01:25But yeah, I think we must always be curious and suspicious of those around us, whether they have or have
01:30not.
01:30Riddler would agree with you, I think. And I love how in this movie, each character reminds me a classic
01:40monster, Dracula, Frankenstein.
01:44Did you take some inspiration from a monster in particular for Penguin?
01:50No, I didn't. But I love the idea of a Frankenstein reference. I mean, the Penguin has been, Oz has
01:57been put together by a life of hardship, you know, and you can see that hardship etched on his face
02:02when I saw the makeup for the first, when I signed on to do this film, there was no conversation
02:07of prosthetics or any makeup or any bodysuit or anything.
02:11And so I had no idea we were going to have that at our disposal to lean into.
02:16But when I saw Mike Marino's design, when I saw the face that he had created, look, I don't create
02:21the face.
02:21I, you know, I have the voice and I give it motion. I animate what he did.
02:27But the creation of the face of Oz was such a significant part of this character.
02:32And it felt like there was a Frank Steinian element to it because I really I was almost lying on
02:39a table.
02:39I was sitting in a chair every day for four hours being put together, you know, so I like that
02:45idea.
02:45But I also like the idea, you know, in relation to Frankenstein, that Oz has been shunned by society quite
02:51a bit.
02:51He knows the way he looks and he knows how he walks.
02:54And he there's a certain kind of a silent shame that he carries within him that can manifest in outward
03:02acts of violence and a desire to succeed that goes to a depth that he hasn't shared with anyone.
03:08I mean, he is burning with desire to succeed and to be at the top of the pile.
03:12And I think there's a lot of interesting psychology to be kind of investigated with the character, you know.
03:18Since you said that you are a huge Batman fan, do you believe that we now need more a vengeance
03:28Batman or a hope Batman?
03:30Oh, I don't know.
03:32I don't know.
03:32I think but I think one of the things that that people are drawn to with the Batman mythology and
03:40with with the Bruce Wayne character and more so because it's easy to write Bruce Wayne off as as a
03:46child of privilege.
03:47And it's easy to forget that his life is one where he carries great pain because he has suffered incredible
03:53loss at a very young age, seeing his parents killed right before him.
03:57But I think the the manifestation of all of his pain and his darkness and his desire to write the
04:05wrongs of the world, that manifestation is, of course, the Batman and that Batman character acts from a place of
04:12kind of righteous anger and frustration in the face of an unfair world.
04:17And I think we all can contemplate based on what's happening all around us at all times, how unfair the
04:24world is.
04:24I mean, I have a very privileged life.
04:27And as I've said before, this whole acting thing has allowed me to live on the right side of wrong.
04:31You know, there's still I have I have privilege that I don't feel I fully earned, but just there are
04:36certain structures in place that have allowed me to inhabit.
04:39But I think Batman is somebody that we are drawn to because he flies in the face of and he
04:45battles against those aspects of modern life that are cruelly unfair, whether it's overt violence or just corruption.
04:53And this one, there's a lot of corruption as well.
04:55And he is very much a detective.
04:57He's not just a man of action, but he's a man of thought and a man of methodology.
05:01So it kind of goes back to the original tension of DC comics, you know, DC detective comics, and it's
05:07very noirish in that element.
05:08OK, thank you so much. Great work. Bye.
05:11Thank you. All the best to you.
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