00:00I have less fear for the dogs and more for the for the humans around.
00:14In Cruella there's the new generation that asks the old one to step back.
00:22How important is for the new generation taking his place in the world?
00:29I love that question because I think that we're at a time where no I think it's so beautiful because
00:34I think that's where we are right now is we're seeing a lot of movement and a lot of our
00:39sort of like social and political movement has come from younger generations I think it always has.
00:44I think we don't remember like Fred Hampton was a revolutionary who was murdered at 21 and we don't realize
00:51that the majority of change happens from younger generations.
00:55But I think what's also important at the same time is seeing that we have to understand past generations that
01:03we don't repeat their mistakes because history is as we've seen it's cyclical right it goes around and around.
01:08And I think what you see in this film is someone from a very young generation who brings this fresh
01:14hot new tape bursting onto the scene, but has taken major inspiration.
01:18You know, I think I don't think Cruella would ever deny that one of her inspirations has always been the
01:24Baroness so what we're seeing is we're seeing kind of this clash of old and young and new and, you
01:29know, new and old I guess.
01:31And seeing where they kind of have very, where they can kind of come together and in a beautiful way
01:40and other ways where they completely clash and that makes some of the best drama in this film.
01:45Cruella says that people need a villain to believe in. Do you think it's true sometimes we need a villain
01:52in our lives because maybe we can justify with the mother our unhappiness? I don't know.
01:59Sometimes, I think sometimes people do. I think sometimes people need not just like common joys, but sort of sometimes
02:04common hates because I think that can bring you together.
02:08I mean, I think about like, I don't know, we've all had jobs that we hate and the boss is
02:12kind of the bogeyman.
02:14And I think sometimes it does help people band together, understanding that this is this is not what we want
02:20or this is something that in a weird way.
02:23I think sometimes it can create community if people have that. And I think the beautiful thing about Cruella is
02:28she understands she almost understands the the kind of power of of illusion.
02:35Right. She understands that, like, you can create certain ideas in people's minds.
02:40You can lean into it or you can you know, you can lean away from it and that will shape
02:45what people think.
02:46And that also, I think, I think she's someone who understands that and can kind of manipulate it to her
02:50benefit.
02:51Cruella is a more complex character in this movie and your character knows another side of her.
02:58So what makes what makes a villain? Because the villain of my story could be the hero of your story.
03:05So what makes a villain in your opinion?
03:07100%. I struggle with that question because I'm exactly the same as you.
03:11You know, I grew up absolutely loving Cruella de Vil. And when people say, like, she's a villain, I almost
03:17knew she was a villain, but didn't see her as a villain.
03:20Because for me, I was so fascinated by who she was as I'd never seen a female character like this
03:26and particularly not in something that was aimed at children.
03:28So I found her really refreshing. But I think I don't know.
03:32I think what makes a villain is sometimes just seeing something in someone else that might I think what this
03:38is very common in the film between the Baroness and Cruella is almost seeing something in someone else that you
03:43recognize that you have.
03:45I think in this it's it's ambition, like Cruella has this huge ambition, like the Baroness, except the Baroness's ambition
03:51is at the detriment of the people around her.
03:54And I think that's kind of that to me is probably one of the most villainous qualities is kind of
03:59just blind ambition without caring about the collateral fallout.
04:04The Baroness says to Cruella that gratitude is for losers. Do you agree with that or not?
04:14I don't agree. I think it's wonderful coming out of the Baroness's mouth because I think she's so entertaining and
04:20you understand where everything comes from.
04:22But no, I don't think I think gratitude is beautiful. And I'm I mean, I wouldn't be doing this if
04:28I wasn't grateful for being in this film.
04:30And yeah, I that's that's definitely a that's a Baroness line and not an Emerson line.
04:38Artie says to Estelle Cruella that normal is the cruelest insult of all.
04:44Do you think that today is true? Normal is now almost like an insult.
04:52Interesting, because I think, well, I think for the longest time we were all told that we have to conform
04:56to being one way to look a certain way, to feel a certain way.
04:58And that was normal. I think now we're realizing that actually there is there's no normal, but everyone is completely
05:05different, all individuals.
05:07And I think that the power of who we are collectively is being the most authentic cell, our most authentic
05:15selves individually.
05:16So, yeah, I mean, I don't I don't think there's a single person who's normal.
05:20People can present however they want to, but there's no one that's normal here.
05:26This is basically an origin story.
05:30So there's potential for at least one sequel.
05:34So if you would do it.
05:37Oh, I would love to. Yeah.
05:38I mean, I think I think we haven't seen all there is to be seen from from her and certainly
05:45from her relationship with with Cruella.
05:47So, yeah, I'm with you.
05:49I'm I'm I'm here. I'm excited.
05:50I'm waiting to hear about it.
05:51So are you afraid for the dogs because now she she's she's OK with the dogs.
05:58But after we maybe not, you know, I love about this story is that, like, I think, again, in terms
06:06of origin, now we're seeing like we're almost seeing like because the dog, it was it's always been so outlandish,
06:12this idea of this woman who was who wanted to do this.
06:14And what we're seeing is that the dogs play a really small role in this part, you know, that they're
06:18part of it, but they're not the driving factor.
06:21So I have less fear for the dogs and more for the for the humans around.
06:26Yeah, you're right.
06:28And this is almost a two hour long fashion show.
06:33So I was being in a two hour long fashion show.
06:38Incredible. My dream.
06:39I loved being in a two hour long fashion.
06:40It felt like that every day on set as well.
06:42I would show up and I would be absolutely floored by what I saw.
06:47And it was for me, it's it was a joy.
06:49It was like some of the things I loved the most, which is like acting in fashion.
06:55Perfect. Thank you so much.
06:56Bye. Thank you.
06:58Yeah. Bye.
