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00:00Honestly, I get into this discussion with a lot of curiosity
00:06because I don't know to what level he is still having a good time.
00:10He says he's having a really good time.
00:14I'm not even really trying to get into the whole debate
00:16about whether or not he's doing a good job.
00:18You know one thing I don't know?
00:19I really, really don't know about this, and I wish we could.
00:24I wish every single one of you faithful listeners for 95.7 The Game
00:29I wish I could drive by your house.
00:32First of all, shake your hand, and thank you for listening,
00:34but also kind of find where you stand on this
00:37because we're having a conversation that is not about,
00:42but it is loosely related to this idea that fans are really mad
00:47at the Warriors and Steve Kerr, and I actually don't know if all you are.
00:52I don't know if all of you are.
00:54I know the ones that text radio stations, tweet radio hosts,
01:01and call radio stations usually come in at about 75% mad,
01:08but that's not a fair sample because you're the kind of people
01:14who text radio stations, tweet radio hosts, and call radio shows.
01:19Thank God for you, but I don't know if you know this about yourself.
01:24You skew toward angry and negative.
01:30Well, that's what this whole business model that we do is kind of built for that,
01:35and we can talk about a little bit behind the scenes of our shows,
01:39and the most popular shows, the most listened to shows,
01:43are usually after catastrophic losses or meltdowns or dramatic moments to the negative.
01:49If the Warriors go out and they have an impressive, nice little 114-102 win
01:55against Minnesota, it'll be crickets, and I know it's the weekend,
01:58so it's maybe not the right time to bring that out,
02:01but they blow an eight-point lead with a minute and a half to go,
02:04and ratings go up.
02:06It's good for business because the outrage is always stronger in this business
02:10than the joy.
02:11Anyway, 415 just hit us on the Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
02:16I text radio stations, and I bleepin' love Coach Kerr.
02:20Okay.
02:21Okay.
02:21Yeah.
02:22Yeah.
02:22It's just the majority is what you were talking about.
02:24Yeah, no, like, I don't know.
02:26I say that because I don't know.
02:29I don't know.
02:30Maybe there are a bunch of you out there who are a silent majority
02:34who are like, the last 12 years have been incredible,
02:38and I kind of love everybody involved in this.
02:42Maybe.
02:43Maybe you're like, Joe Lacom's a great owner.
02:45Bob Myers was an awesome GM.
02:48Steph Curry's the greatest face of an organization I've ever seen.
02:51Steve Kerr helped them get over the top,
02:54put in a genius system that really worked for the players at the time,
02:58has also been a wonderful ambassador for the organization.
03:02Mike Dunleavy is stepping into new shoes and hasn't really had some sort of,
03:07like, he hasn't done anything wrong yet.
03:09I don't know if he's had a signature win, but he certainly hasn't had a signature loss.
03:13He's got zero lottery picks on his resume.
03:16None.
03:18Clay Thompson, Splash Brother, Draymond Green, boy, he'll poke at you,
03:23but he's played quite a role.
03:24That was fun with Kevin Durant, and then add in all of the Iguodalas
03:27and the Livingstons and the others.
03:29This is great.
03:31Maybe that's how a lot of you feel,
03:33but you're the kind that are just chilling, cruising around in your day,
03:38and you would never call a radio show.
03:40I don't know.
03:41I think that the majority of people, when they think about it globally,
03:44and you look at the whole 12-year run with Steve Kerr,
03:47you look at it and you go, this has been unbelievable.
03:49And some people would look at it and think that even now,
03:53but other people look at the situation now,
03:55and you can easily highlight the things that you think are wrong
03:59with what's going on here.
04:01And, yeah, Dunleavy hasn't had a chance to draft in the lottery,
04:04and Steve Kerr has coached here a long time,
04:06and what they have right now is not working.
04:09And so that's why the outrage comes to the forefront much more.
04:12This is hilarious.
04:13I think just because I said the text line just went absolutely bananas.
04:17Absolutely bananas.
04:19I want to read some of these.
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04:32Let's see.
04:33Here we go.
04:34415 says, I prefer, we prefer the word passionate.
04:39But then goes on to say, in all caps, I love Kerr.
04:44And then says, yeah, I agree with all of that, Willard.
04:49408, I love my Warriors, Willard.
04:51I love the grind, love Coach Kerr, and pods, LOL.
04:56That's risky.
04:57Don't say that out loud.
04:58510, Twitter is not the real world.
05:00415.
05:01We don't bleep with Dunleavy, though.
05:07707, stupid Steve and Bozo Bob are responsible for the end of two timelines.
05:16520, Kerr's the man.
05:17We will always appreciate him.
05:19Whoever coaches next won't touch his legacy.
05:25408, what frustrates the majority of fans is Kerr is wrong and doesn't get criticized.
05:31I would love to know what, wrong about what?
05:34Wrong about, you know.
05:36Well, wrong about not playing Kaminga very much.
05:38Wrong about, you know, playing pods too much.
05:41And wrong about going to a small lineup too much.
05:44And, you know, those are the things I think that trigger fans about Steve.
05:47So, if somebody's saying that he's, quote, wrong, I could see that.
05:51And it's tough because Steve Kerr won championships by playing Draymond at the five.
05:57So, the small ball lineup has worked for so long.
05:59And the roster is constructed, or has been, to where those are the pieces that you have.
06:05It's hard to not go small when you don't have a lot of big guys.
06:09These are fascinating.
06:10Yeah?
06:10These are fascinating to me.
06:15307, the last 12 years have only showed me how insufferable Bay Area fans are.
06:20Off with Kerr's head.
06:22Be damned all the accolades.
06:24So dumb.
06:26707, they get y'all praise, but no blame.
06:29They both started on third base and think they hit a triple.
06:33Who started on third base?
06:34I guess Steve Kerr and Mike Dunleavy, I guess.
06:37Okay.
06:38By the way, Kerr might agree with you on that.
06:40Dunleavy started on third and got picked off and then had to go back to the plate.
06:45He was the number three overall pick, and he got run out of town, and he had a career that
06:51didn't live up to his draft status.
06:53I mean, yeah, he started on third base because his dad was an NBA player and an NBA coach.
06:58I get that.
06:59But I think what I would argue with there is the whole they think they hit a triple.
07:03That suggests to me that they don't have gratitude for, I mean, could Steve Kerr say in any other way,
07:09this is about Steph and I love Steph and thank you, Steph?
07:13Steve has said that eight million times.
07:16Has he not?
07:17He has, and I don't know how you could look at Steve Kerr's, not only his career, but his life,
07:22and think about what has happened.
07:25He was born in Beirut, and his father is murdered when he's at University of Arizona.
07:31He's an undersized guard who goes on to play 15 years in the league.
07:35See, I'm not saying that he didn't have certain advantages, like growing up in a house with two parents and
07:41a decent amount of coin, but the guy's grinded his whole career.
07:46925, love Steve, but can't stand the name JK.
07:49I don't know.
07:51I don't, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm not, okay.
07:55408, some Dubs fans just don't know how good it has been for us.
07:59Steve deserves better.
08:00That's from Gil.
08:01Thank you, Gil.
08:04650, Willard is a homer and a fanboy of Kerr.
08:07Dibbs is the only real one.
08:09Text of the day.
08:10A homer?
08:11Text of the day nominee right there.
08:15Let's see.
08:16707, I'm pretty sure this is rarefied air.
08:19Hall of Fame bound.
08:20Fans are wacky and weird sometimes.
08:24925, there's nothing sadder than an old dog.
08:27It's hard to watch them limp around and not get frustrated and demoralized, and it's hard not to look across
08:36the fence at your neighbor's new puppy running and hustling in the grass while yours lays in the shade with
08:42its tongue out.
08:43I actually like that.
08:44I know.
08:46I love that one.
08:47Sorry about my dog.
08:48Yeah.
08:49Cut it out.
08:50I mean, the old dog is the Warriors, and you love your old dog, and so at some point, your
08:55old dog is not going to be around anymore.
08:56But it doesn't mean that you ditch the old dog before it's actually time.
09:02This is incredible.
09:03You know, I think we finally hit something there.
09:10Like, I think there are a lot of you out there who feel the way that it has been expressed
09:16on Twitter and on radio.
09:18But there are a lot of you that just, like, you all just finally showed up.
09:23You all just been chilling.
09:25You just been chilling out there, loving on Steve Kerr, not wanting to say anything about it because you think
09:29you got a duck when you walk into the bar.
09:31Well, some people call in and defend him, but, you know, it's easier to just text in if this is
09:36how you feel.
09:37But I think this is a good representation of where fans who are listening to us actually exist because you're
09:44not reading every text.
09:45I can tell that there's tons coming in right now, but it's not an overwhelming majority of people who are
09:52like, you know, run this guy, and he's trash, and the rest of it.
09:55But the echo chamber of what we do in social media, those voices tend to get louder, and they tend
10:01to be more prominent than they actually are.
10:04Okay, this is fun.
10:05888-957-9570, Austin in San Jose.
10:08Hello, Austin.
10:11Hey, guys.
10:12Hey, good conversation.
10:13I do, I do.
10:15By the way, I got to say, Kerr, I don't know why.
10:18Hey, listen, I do.
10:20Coach Kerr, I've been one of the guys that's probably been most critical, so I felt you talking to me,
10:27Willard.
10:27Definitely.
10:28No, I actually wrote your name down on this little piece of paper, and we're going to make a little
10:33doll and poke pins into it later tonight, Austin.
10:38Oh, no.
10:39And dibs, and dibs will remember our buddy Radniss saying that negative radio was actually good radio.
10:45Something like that, dibs.
10:46Yeah, that's good knowledge, Austin.
10:50Which I've always kind of subscribed to, by the way.
10:56And so, I'm one of the guys that likes to churn things up, for lack of a better word.
11:00Listen, Kerr is very comfortable in his own skin.
11:03And I admire the man.
11:04I'd vote for the guy if he decided to do any office beyond coaching, frankly.
11:10But when it comes to coaching, I think it's fair, Willard, for fans to adore what he's done, but also
11:17say, hey, you know, it's time to scrutinize what he has done lately.
11:22And I think Steve Kerr would be comfortable with fans sort of going over what has gone well and what
11:28hasn't gone well.
11:29I mean, so I think that's – he's very comfortable in his own skin.
11:32I don't think he's – he knows the criticism out there.
11:35He hears everything, as Steph once said.
11:37Those guys hear everything.
11:38So, if Steve said he's not hearing it, he's hearing it, okay, whether it's pods or JK or whatever.
11:45So, I think – I'm more – I'm actually more balanced than you think.
11:49I just think that it's time for a change.
11:52I think, as Bill Walsh said, what is it, 10 years or whatever?
11:55I think your message gets stale.
11:57I think it's fair to say, hey, it's time to move on from Kerr.
12:00Thank you for your contribution.
12:02Corporations do it every day in Silicon Valley, Willard.
12:05You guys know.
12:05You make changes not because a guy sucks, but because it's time for a new direction, time for new leadership,
12:12time for a new set of eyes, blah, blah, blah.
12:15So, I'm just saying, hey, let's just treat this like any other business.
12:18Let's just move on.
12:20Let's see what happens with a new roster.
12:22And let's go.
12:23So, I want to end on this being more positive than negative, believe it or not, Willard.
12:28Austin, and I don't know if this will surprise you.
12:31I have no issue with that take whatsoever.
12:33I'm not saying I see it.
12:35Austin, thanks.
12:36I'm not saying I see it the exact same way.
12:38But to me, that's measured, calm, to a degree, even sort of respectful, thoughtful with, like, if you think it's
12:47time to move on, I would respond this way.
12:50He's probably a year or two away from agreeing with you.
12:53He might be a month or two away from agreeing with you.
12:56And he's even said it to us about everything having an expiration date.
12:59Right.
13:00And it might be expiring here in mid-April.
13:02If they end up doing whatever they end up doing and it's not a title and he decides that this
13:08is it, then this will be it.
13:09But, like, Austin, and to others of you out there, I would imagine you're aware.
13:14I know not everybody's on every platform and this, that, or the other.
13:17But what you just said about Steve Kerr is on the scale of 1 to 10, on the negative Kerr
13:28commentary, I was like a 2.
13:30I get 10s every day with a lot of cuss words and a lot of accusations.
13:41And they go to the age card, they go to the race card, and I mean.
13:48Full deck of cards.
13:49Full deck of cards.
13:50Favoritism card.
13:51And we would, and a lot of this commentary would argue, seemingly, that Steve Kerr is literally like a halfwit.
14:05Just, and I get, like, those are easy to dismiss, but it's not about dismissing the take.
14:12It's, for me, it's more about exploring how that, how we arrived at that for anybody.
14:19And, and what percentage of the audience is that?
14:23It's a small percentage.
14:24And, you know, we had two callers yesterday.
14:26Actually, it was one caller using two different names, and I can't imagine him not calling again soon with a
14:33third name.
14:34But he's had the same take every time, and he's one of those people who's really anti-Steve Kerr.
14:39And it's the lineups, it's the rotation, and you've got to fire Steve Kerr and all the rest of it.
14:43I don't know if you can go from being a really, really good coach to being so bad, like, you
14:50use the phrase halfwit.
14:51He might be tired.
14:53He might be, you know, having a bad year.
14:55He might be a lot of things, but at the end of his career, he'll be able to look back
15:00and see that he won four titles, whether or not you give him credit or not.
15:03He gets credit as the coach, so I don't think that there's been such slippage to where, oh, my God,
15:09all of a sudden now you can't coach?
15:10So, look, he's had a ton of talent with the Warriors, obviously.
15:15But if I may briefly take issue with the whole he arrived on third base and thinks he hit a
15:22triple.
15:23So, what he actually arrived at was a team that had just been knocked out fairly early in the playoffs.
15:32First round.
15:33Okay?
15:33And those players, though clearly on their way, to act like they were established stars at that time is factually
15:43incorrect.
15:43But if I want to go broader with the take, I will wait for someone to call in and tell
15:51me the head coach in the NBA who won multiple rings with mediocre talent.
16:03888-957-9570.
16:06Multiple titles is the, that's the hook right there because.
16:10Fire away.
16:10Rick Carlisle won in Dallas with Dirk Nowitzki and J.J. Barea.
16:15But they had Dirk and.
16:17It wasn't just J.J. Barea.
16:19They did not have a ton of talent, but they won one title.
16:21Was Kidd on that team?
16:24Yeah, late stage.
16:26Jason Kidd, Jason Terry.
16:28Yeah, I mean.
16:29You can't find a coach who won a title without talent.
16:33I guess the one that pops to my mind is when the Lakers lost to the Detroit Pistons.
16:40And.
16:40Yeah, Chauncey and Rip City and various Wallaces.
16:45I mean, you're talking right there already two, if not three, Hall of Famers.
16:49Yeah, but you know what I mean, like.
16:51I know Mavericks team also had Sean Marion and Tyson Chandler.
16:54It's a pretty good, pretty good starting five.
16:56The Matrix.
16:57Yes, they were not Steph, Clay, Kevin Durant.
17:02For me, the bigger point is like the NBA is always going to be about the players.
17:07I would, you know, you could do a research project and try to find the worst team to win a
17:11title since Magic came into the league.
17:14And we might have just named those two and those two teams we just named have multiple Hall of Famers.
17:19Pretty good.
17:20So that and I guess the reverse take to you're not going to be able to name a coach who
17:26won with without great talent.
17:29But boy, you can find some coaches who didn't win who did have great talent.
17:34Yeah.
17:34Okay, so that would be my response to this idea that any old stupid idiot could have coached this team.
17:42No.
17:43No.
17:44And you know who will tell you that is the players themselves.
17:47Like the offensive system that got created around Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and Draymond Green.
17:54And like, it's a thing.
17:55It's an actual thing.
17:57I don't know if it works anymore because those guys aren't playing basketball right now.
18:00Well, it doesn't work, and you've seen that Draymond Green's been rendered a spot-up shooter.
18:06Well, he's 36 years old, and he's surrounded by Pat Spencer and Leon's – I mean, I don't know.
18:12There is not an offensive system that would make this right now a very good team.
18:16Because you don't have good offensive players.
18:18And I asked Steve that a couple weeks ago about, you know, the system.
18:21Can you just change it when you don't have Steph out there?
18:24And he said, no, you can't really just change the way you go about offensive basketball.
18:28And the other thing that you have to give to Steve Kerr – and he didn't do this alone.
18:32It's a staff, and you have Steph Curry.
18:35But they change the way other teams go about playing basketball.
18:38They don't all do the same system, but the thirst for the three started with the Warriors.
18:45And it started with the Warriors because of Steph Curry, obviously, but also that system.
18:50And so it's been emulated throughout the league.
18:52I love these texts that keep coming through about the negativity, 9-2-5.
18:56In our defense, it's really bad traffic today in the Bay.
19:00It's pretty bad, huh?
19:02I don't know.
19:03I don't know.
19:042-2-4.
19:06Nine rings, one gold medal.
19:08Um, hello?
19:10Yeah.
19:10He actually doesn't get a gold medal, but I get it.
19:13He coached the team that won.
19:15You don't get a gold medal when you're the coach?
19:16Nope.
19:17Oh.
19:17I mean, does the coach of that figure skater from Oakland, do they get a gold medal?
19:23I guess not.
19:25Alicia Liu?
19:26Yeah.
19:26Uh, Lissa Liu.
19:27Lissa Liu.
19:28Yeah.
19:28Coaching is, I mean, it's different when you're talking about individual sports.
19:33Does Michaela Schifrin's, uh, ski waxer get a gold medal?
19:36Um, no.
19:37I guess probably not, yeah.
19:38Definitively not.
19:39Right.
19:39But it's still a gold medal coach.
19:41He coached the team to a gold medal.
19:43Sure.
19:44As is, uh, Ty Liu on the staff.
19:46The same way that they don't hand out gold medals, sometimes they do hand out championship rings
19:51to too many people, but we're all in support of it.
19:53I mean, the administrative assistant in the office gets a damn ring.
19:56Pretty sweet.
19:57What the hell did that person do?
19:59Yeah.
19:59To answer the phones.
20:01Hello?
20:02This is the Warriors.
20:03Championship effort, though.
20:05That's, oh, that's good work.
20:07That's good work.
20:08We even asked Steve.
20:09Nobody's coming after those people now that are sucking.
20:11We asked Steve a couple months ago about, hey, where are your rings?
20:15And he's like, I don't know.
20:16I don't know.
20:18Which was a predictable answer, by the way.
20:20I don't care.
20:21I mean, you got nine of them.
20:22First of all, I don't really care.
20:24I have no idea.
20:25I haven't given that any thought.
20:27Good Lord.
20:27How many of those do you have in there?
20:29Oh, more.
20:31Boy, I didn't realize through the years how dismissive Steve Kerr is of everything we ask him.
20:36It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
20:37Good Lord.
20:38Well, that was Stiney.
20:39But anyway.
20:39That was a stupid question, Stiney.
20:41It's stupid.
20:42He doubled down on the stupid.
20:44Man.
20:45I got my own complaint.
20:47I bet you do, Steve.
20:49I bet you do.
20:50No, you don't.
20:50No, you don't.
20:51No, I bet you do.
20:52I do.
20:53I do.
20:54Oh, yeah.
20:55Thanks a lot.
20:55Boy, a lot of people want to talk about this.
20:58Man.
20:59A lot of it.
20:59Yeah, let's go.
21:00We got to mix in some hate with some love.
21:02We got to balance it out.
21:03Well, it sounds like that's what some people might want to do.
21:06Oh, no.
21:08Oh, no.
21:10Wait, what?
21:11What happened?
21:11Are we about to have positivity in the five o'clock hour on the radio while the Warriors
21:19have a losing record?
21:21That doesn't seem right.
21:22I don't know if I want to do this.
21:25Well, then find somebody who's going to rip.
21:28Shout out Rip Hamilton.
21:29I don't know in some cases.
21:34Let's go to Lucky in the city.
21:36Hi, Lucky.
21:36What are you doing?
21:39Wow, Mark.
21:40Is that a shot, man?
21:41I don't know.
21:42I got some trouble.
21:44It's a trepidation sensation, Lucky.
21:46I don't know what's about to happen.
21:49Cha-ching!
21:49Hey, man.
21:51I agree with Philmo and Mike.
21:53You guys are funny, man.
21:55And I have an AKA for both you and Diz, man.
21:57You guys are the human version of Waldorf and Scatler, man.
22:01That's y'all guys.
22:04I have no idea what to get there now, but...
22:09Exactly, Diz, my man.
22:12But look, man, everybody needs to stop smoking crack.
22:17Period.
22:18Period.
22:19You tell me you want to take Steve Kerr off the Warriors and put who?
22:25A thick Adam's apple buzzard to come in there and coach us and do what?
22:30You want to put Dunleavy in there and try to coach us and do what?
22:35He's not going to win a championship like you said with average players.
22:39There's no coach that I've...
22:40Remember, since I've been watching basketball since the late 70s, I haven't seen that.
22:46What are the people talking about?
22:48And you're saying, oh, we want to get Dre out of here and, you know, trade Steph.
22:53Stop smoking the Finney, man.
22:55Without Steph and Dre, we would not have any championships.
22:59Are you serious?
23:01Are you serious?
23:02And that goes for everybody who's saying, get rid of Steph and Dre.
23:06My man, Diz, you're a big Dre.
23:08Get rid of him, guy.
23:10Why would you want to get rid of a a-hole who plays hard for your team and helps you
23:15win chips?
23:16That's what we want.
23:17Another one for Steph.
23:19Another one for the thumb.
23:20Everybody's talking all this other crap.
23:23Shut up.
23:25You be careful with one for the thumb now, Lucky.
23:27You be careful.
23:29Lucky, thank you.
23:30Thank you, Lucky.
23:31One for the thumb, huh?
23:32Yeah.
23:33Yeah.
23:33Yeah.
23:34That phrase is welcome on this show any time on the show.
23:37Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho.
23:38I don't even care what it's about.
23:41I haven't seen a thumb that small since Dibbs lost his TV career.
23:45Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
23:46Yeah, yeah.
23:48Yeah, that was it.
23:49That was it.
23:51Oh, gosh.
23:53I'm ready for Friday.
23:55Yeah, you are.
23:56Yeah.
23:58Oh, my God.
24:00Anyway.
24:01Everybody needs to stop smoking crack.
24:03Yeah.
24:04And he called it the Finney, I think, later in the call.
24:06I don't know the.
24:07Then he called you a draiter.
24:09Oh, I didn't know that that's what he said.
24:10I heard him say a Dre hater, but a draiter.
24:13I shortened it to draiter.
24:14Right.
24:15And just because he was great doesn't mean that he just gets to be here forever.
24:20No, that's.
24:21And that's totally fair.
24:23Lucky.
24:24Lucky.
24:26Well, to me, it's more of a larger point.
24:28Let's you know, what would be interesting for a second?
24:31What if we did to dream on what some people do to Steve?
24:37So actually dream on you've sucked all along.
24:41All along.
24:43Well, it's patently untrue as the curse thing is completely untrue as well.
24:47And it's different because as a player, you can decline.
24:51And as a coach, you can decline some.
24:53But I don't think that you can look at Steve Kerr.
24:56Maybe you can and say, oh, Kerr is just washed.
24:59Maybe because he's older.
25:00His brain's not working as fast.
25:02He doesn't have the energy and the enthusiasm he used to.
25:05When you're a player, you're going to decline because it's a physical thing.
25:09When you're a coach, there's some decline getting older.
25:12As we joked about earlier, sometimes I don't remember if I drove or took part.
25:15Sure.
25:16And you need to evolve, and then sometimes it also ages out.
25:20You know, he's talked about it.
25:22I think it doesn't matter what company you're in or whatever.
25:27After a while, your voice just sounds different.
25:31It just doesn't land the same way.
25:34So everything's got a shelf life.
25:37And whether or not that means you're no longer good at what you do or you're not as good at
25:42what you do or you never were any good at what you're doing, I mean, all of that stuff, I
25:47think, is up for debate.
25:50I've said this, though, a number of times.
25:52I've always felt like the level of disrespect that gets thrown at someone who's achieved what he's achieved is odd.
26:01I don't even make it about whether I agree or not.
26:04I just think it's odd.
26:05I don't really know what the precedent is for that.
26:07I don't know about any coaches who won four rings for a city and then has, at least even if
26:16it's a smaller faction, this brigade that's like, God, we hate you.
26:20You've sucked all along and get out of here, and you should have gotten out of here actually three years
26:25ago.
26:27Like, that's daily.
26:28It's every day.
26:30But it's a small minority, I think.
26:31Well, that's what I'm exploring.
26:33And I think we're getting some good sense, and I know you're going to go back to the phones.
26:37You've got a lot of people who want to chime in, but it's just more human nature in this business
26:42and in this arena, I guess we'll say.
26:45It's more natural to come with the hate as opposed to come with the appreciation.
26:50Now, when Steve's done, it'll be, you know, an onslaught of, man, what a great run and thank you, coach,
26:56and the rest of it.
26:57And the haters will probably call in and say, yeah, it should have happened years ago.
27:00But at that point, it's more natural to then heap praise on somebody.
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