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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but
00:27I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:01growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:53cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm gonna try to make an acronym. Sexy. Right. This is gonna be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Emberrenched. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:31T-T-T-T-T-T.
02:33T-T-T-T.
02:35T-T-T-T-T.
02:36T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T.
02:39I have no idea.
02:41What did I say? Sexy, Magic, Universe.
02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah, we'll do that. Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot
02:53for Nightwang.
02:54Uh, which was extremely
02:57fun to watch have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind
03:02you
03:02especially the ones that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest
03:07i when i saw like some fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i
03:14i mean you never
03:16know if that's going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the
03:21comic
03:21book style i was like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him
03:26i love dc i love
03:29um i loved all like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know
03:39there
03:40are a lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics
03:47that i think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing
03:51you know i'm open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no
03:59always something that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's
04:05it's filmmaker driven so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to
04:11comics it i think that's what draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen
04:17titans i
04:18know there's yeah but yeah james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like
04:25ilia in real life and connor is more like shane i think me and you are both like rose
04:31and i'm like svetlana i just said me and you are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting
04:37ways
04:37that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i
04:45don't know
04:46i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame
04:52around emotion to be ilia i could be a little cocky like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like
04:58i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these
05:05you know walls and kind of um masks but i think i think underneath that what we both relate with
05:12both
05:12of them is you know the the heart and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got
05:19matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that happen um i did i have a reason
05:26for
05:26coming up to vancouver i just want to come see yeah come hang out am i not good enough right
05:30come on
05:31yeah i just i don't know why for a second i was like i have something to do up there
05:35i have nothing
05:36to do in vancouver i was there so yeah i just went up to see um i just came up
05:42to see you we knew we
05:43wanted to get matching tattoos i hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling
05:48through ideas and yeah i think you came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then
05:54like one person would like them the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was
05:59like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well
06:03done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or
06:11false you
06:12ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me
06:19what his routine was and after i saw him in person um i asked him how he got to that
06:24size i thought he
06:25was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um
06:32but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia
07:01cheeks
07:01um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know pumped
07:14up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it ends that
07:20way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that we ate
07:25more
07:26than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of protein and
07:31you need
07:31a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of ground beef
07:37a
07:37day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because by the end
07:43i got
07:43like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was like
07:4810 pounds
07:48heavier and it was because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had each
07:53other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our
07:5812 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's
08:03nice
08:03that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a fucking 11
08:09hour day skating lesson
08:11and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he has
08:16a butt
08:16he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what
08:22are you saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i
08:30take that
08:31very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel
08:37any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned
08:53they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show
09:13the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see
09:18that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not
09:23like people might just hate this people might hate your casting they might hate my casting i'm not
09:29going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i can but you have really
09:35no metric
09:35of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really think at the end of the
09:40day all you can do
09:41is be really intentional give it 150 percent yeah just go for it you know and luckily for us
09:49this worked out really freaking well
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break
10:00it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i
10:05like honestly
10:06i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to
10:33me because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum
10:40and then sunscreen and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on
10:43a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to
10:50get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use
10:57like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan survey normal ass cleanser
11:04i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if
11:10that's
11:10my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then
11:16i go to fucking sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well i will
11:23also say
11:24i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take it off it just falls
11:29apart
11:30yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes
11:38story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice
11:43what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene
11:48where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up
12:15realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of
12:21this moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think
12:27that's really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it
12:32also is really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think
12:37it's funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing
12:43i did was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my
12:47friends i have bad
12:48news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go
12:55in together and
12:56you kind of coax out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun to
13:16film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our
13:21lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people like i know it's always
13:27a fun
13:27balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're filming
13:33playing it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like
13:40true sex because
13:41at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like
13:45movie moments
13:46where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we
13:50i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down
13:57then
13:57go upstairs naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates once
14:08kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know that
14:14you i've
14:15yeah yeah remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times what
14:23was his
14:23reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've talked with her
14:31and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since talked about this
14:35since
14:36double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like
14:42oh hudson and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different
14:53techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls
14:59but i would go and i would do like a drive-by at all these different techniques and then she
15:03would
15:03bring like other you know romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the
15:09board and they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like
15:15would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you fold so i had one where i would
15:19get pants low like i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone
15:24on the couch and i would run by and jump in the air so i was like a like like
15:31a like a literal moon
15:32a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave
15:37bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:43yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to moon someone yeah
15:48a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that this is okay yep she got a
15:54who do not
15:55moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian actor leading such a hugely
16:02popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for more people to see you in going
16:07forward um yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out there you know um i've been declared
16:19do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of wajah me i mean i i
16:27sign off
16:28on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy for this so uh yeah i'm the i'm
16:34the ambassador of
16:35wajah as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as uh this um little wajah i am
16:44i hope
16:45to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to do roles that are you know
16:52race
16:52has something to to play in there but also i just want to be an actor and a lot of
16:57the times i just
16:58want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we don't need to go in my backstory
17:03or whatever
17:03it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non-person of color would play as well you know
17:12you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember
17:18and
17:18ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that role matters on projects like this
17:23was there anything about the process that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um
17:30yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things
17:39without that role um the thing that i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating
17:44is it's not just about and this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this
17:51it's not just about the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like
17:58making sure everyone's okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are
18:06like jamie with this you know was also the voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been
18:11since this happened you know you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i need to hear
18:17those um i
18:18need to hear that feeling through your wings i need to see that come about i need to feel that
18:23pleasure in
18:24this way so it's not always technical even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there
18:29is also an artistic sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely
18:35bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can
18:44you can
18:44someone give me a rundown of the brand no you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've
18:48only
18:49named two from memory well how about this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything
18:58yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada
19:16dry's got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should
19:23be de-blindful
19:29we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says it says
19:37from frisco texas
19:39nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so
19:48embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good um
19:58um you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this
20:12a pissy
20:13pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20that bye yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:29i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong i'd feel
20:35like
20:35an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one do you have more
20:46bring me
20:47bring in how many more bring in the last one bring it to me oh this one's a hard one
20:55thank you
20:59oh no
21:04uh-huh
21:06that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer
21:17hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full song vibes
21:37do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all
21:49let's see what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in you
21:56didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's that
22:00one's
22:00nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you
22:06first realize you
22:07clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say our first
22:13facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:18ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto um
22:24we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and
22:31similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set
22:51being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was
22:59just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside
23:04joke that we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with
23:11oh yeah i
23:12would always be like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do
23:18like a cattle call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and
23:24stuff
23:24where there would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and
23:28we'd
23:29have like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get
23:36up there and everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and
23:42just like opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like
23:56i think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah
24:01i was
24:01when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to me muchas gracias
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:20my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked
24:33you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have
24:41and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a really fun way
24:47to explore yourself
24:48it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think in
24:53the
24:53booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like
25:02war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that
25:11was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding the story just
25:19moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know is not a
25:26big reader
25:27i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it it cycles
25:32through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really
25:37like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now
25:46yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons
25:51there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are trans
25:56women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term to
26:04be like
26:04i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel
26:10safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of um
26:17that i
26:18saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are you are taken
26:26out of
26:26the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that there's like a there's a
26:33certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women um historically being
26:40put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like a
26:44nice
26:44separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female dynamic being yeah i i
26:53heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like a hetero um couple you
26:59know
27:00you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character um and then that
27:06comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very
27:11conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with
27:18getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're
27:22empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to relate with
27:26at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to be a
27:31woman um yeah and
27:34so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would just be i'd
27:41be drinking i'd be
27:43somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really freaking
27:51athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling
27:56match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:02whoo okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like
28:20oh i become really aware of how do you do that kind of
28:25it's not that you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:32it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and i can't do his laugh do i do
28:36that do i do
28:37do i do a polly pocket hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself me oh oh yeah i'm
28:50i'm
28:50dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i am yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and i'm like
29:10why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:24fuck yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake
29:31the what the rake and the cake well you break up some some people together and then you
29:38the ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the
29:54grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome
30:02foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end up line delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good
30:22um i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm
30:28supposed to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples
30:37that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw
30:44the
30:44receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all seeing it yeah i was i
30:52was seeing
30:53it damn it for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's probably the
31:17sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies urine enough your ass gets
31:23fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy isn't just spice on
31:29top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character and also
31:34physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about this and that was
31:39one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain his vision which was
31:46you know
31:47when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy but to know that
31:51the sex
31:53really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i think that is i think
31:59that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life that's how they communicate
32:04that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is used in yeah yeah
32:11me dear i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw right and read about him getting
32:17pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah mara he derived updates
32:25pointed this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your
32:30boat
32:30you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah
32:37i don't
32:38understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if
32:44you can go
32:44get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all
32:53aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor
33:00story ass of the i don't like this tweet it should be ass century hey whoa whoa
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