00:04C'è una storia tipica, è una storia di qualcuno che si è piaciuto, che si è piaciuto, che si
00:11è piaciuto, che si è piaciuto, che si è piaciuto, e che si è piaciuto da quella persona.
00:14Io credo che tutti possono raccontare questo, perché probabilmente in una situazione di vita, in una situazione di questo, occorre.
00:23Questo è la prima volta che gay persone hanno detto, «enough».
00:28E non lo faccio con leaflets e le metti.
00:33Poi prendere le botti e threwle a coppia.
00:40Questo è la prima volta che gay persone stavano.
00:43E hanno fatto in loro loro modo.
00:47In essenza, non c'è nessuno, o non c'è oggi, che si è piaciuto.
00:54E' stato un super hot night.
00:57E' stato un friday night.
01:00E' stato un Saturday.
01:02E' stato un weekend.
01:05E' stato un'amplice.
01:07che era un'amplice.
01:11Abbiamociato questo, che era un'amplice.
01:17Alcuna erano buona di una donna.
01:18In uno di questi bici, questo commento da un Black Panther che visita ogni volta il primo giorno di rio.
01:26E' stato degli amari che le femme,
01:30meaning the most feminine kids fought the hardest.
01:35And that was actually the decision where I said,
01:39oh my god, somebody has to tell that story.
01:42The only person we know that these kids really existed
01:46was a guy called Bob Kohler.
01:49He talked pretty much in his whole life
01:51about these kids who started Stonewall.
01:55And I just kind of started coming up with a story
02:00which was totally invented,
02:02but I also then wanted to kind of work into historic characters.
02:06So it was a relatively long process.
02:11We were looking for a writer and then we found John Robin Bates.
02:16And I liked a lot his last play out of Desert City.
02:21And then I said, gosh, he has a cool voice.
02:23And then we met him and then so it came to be that
02:27like it slowly but surely became a script.
02:31We tried to create a fictional character
02:34who stands for all these kids
02:36who just made this decision at that night.
02:41Look, like every movie can never ever totally be true to life.
02:46It's always an interpretation, you know.
02:50at its basis it's the relationship between Danny and Ray
02:55that holds the movie together.
02:59The whole drama of Danny being thrown out of his home
03:06but also being totally betrayed by his first big love.
03:11and that all I kind of let me, you know, say
03:15if I get that right then the film must feel true
03:19because that's what I felt a lot in my life.
03:24You know, we're not nearly there.
03:26I mean, we're still fighting for marriage equality
03:31which is like ridiculous when you think about it.
03:35There's such a tragedy of being born homosexual
03:40into a society which doesn't, you know, accept it.
03:45And the interesting thing what I always like to say
03:47about homosexuality is it's not when you're like black,
03:51you're black, everybody can see you're black.
03:54Nobody can see sometimes you're homosexual.
03:57So actually you can hide your blackness or your utterness
04:01which is naturally, you know, leads to a lot of tragic lives.
04:07You know, a lot of, and I have the feeling sometimes
04:10the biggest, you know, like, you know, homophobes are,
04:16you know, gay people who are so deep in the closet
04:21that all their anger at their own, you know, like kind of lie
04:25makes them so viciously attacking people
04:28who have the courage to come out.
04:33I looked at everybody in that age group
04:35and I felt, you know, Jeremy was perfect for it.
04:42I immediately called up Paul, my casting director,
04:46and I said, Paul, there's this kid, Johnny Bouchon,
04:50put a pin into him, figure out that he's not hired by anybody else.
04:57and he immediately said, oh no, he will not hire anybody else.
05:02And I said, just make sure.
05:05And so I went back actually to New York like two, three weeks later
05:12and said, okay, so I want to only see one person.
05:16and he said, you're kidding me.
05:18And I said, no, I only want to see Johnny Bouchon.
05:22I mean, Caleb is just so unique.
05:26I mean, when I met him, I couldn't, from that moment
05:30I couldn't see anybody else playing Orphan Annie.
05:33I said, like, he's, I think, a real life Orphan Annie.
05:38And then Vlad is just, I saw one reading of him
05:43and I actually only wanted to meet him
05:45and because in my mind he was already cast.
05:49and then they made him read again.
05:54And he was even better in his second reading for me.
06:00It's probably because I'm gay and the subject was gay.
06:05I felt, you know, I could really answer every question anybody had, you know.
06:10I mean, you know, Jeremy once in a while came to me and said,
06:14that explained this to me and I could explain it to him.
06:17And in other movies I would say,
06:21you like kind of more in general talking about these things.
06:24But here I could say, well, you know, I can tell you now a little story.
06:27This will make it for you probably more understandable why we did it like that.
06:31And then he said, oh, wow, you know.
06:34And so I felt very secure, you know, directing it.
06:40I think because, you know, some of the actors were gay
06:46and even the actors who were not gay,
06:48everybody felt this is like an important story to tell.
06:53I always like kind of think it's great as a director
06:56when you can make it people easy.
06:58I mean, I'm more like kind of there to create a certain atmosphere
07:01where everybody can be as creative as he possibly can.
07:07When we like ended it, there was a lot of tears, which I totally understand.
07:14Somebody mentioned to him and said he would be a great Ed Murphy
07:19and then I said, let's organize a meeting
07:21and immediately headed off with him.
07:23He's a very, very gracious man and very funny.
07:29You know, he's the first person who ever listens to Danny
07:32and has a normal conversation with him.
07:35And, you know, and he then understood that he played that scene very, very well,
07:42where he was really, you know, you felt he was really into Danny's story,
07:47which was very important.
07:49And then he's just one of these actors who also totally understood the part.
07:54It's the most complicated in a way.
07:57On the one hand, he's this political animal.
07:59On the other hand, he is just a man who likes, you know, you know,
08:06you know, can, falls in love easily,
08:09but also falls in love with somebody else easily.
08:12So he falls out of love a lot.
08:16Stonewall, you know, was the first, you know, act of gay people
08:21they were collectively proud of.
08:24Meaning that's why it's called Gay Pride March,
08:27which was not at the beginning.
08:29At the beginning it was called the Christopher, you know,
08:33street march or whatever, the Gay Liberation March,
08:37Christopher Street or whatever.
08:38And over the years it became the Gay Pride March.
08:43And that's like a, just a, just a interesting thing, development.
08:48It's like, it's a little bit like kind of when black people said,
08:52like, black is beautiful, you know.
08:55When Frank Cavani said, gay is good.
09:01Well, Stonewall is a film, you know,
09:03where you see the plight of one young kid who, you know,
09:08gets found out homosexual and he goes, you know,
09:12he has to become homeless.
09:14And he chooses to become homeless in the streets of New York
09:17because he feels like that's the place to be.
09:20And he becomes part of a group of kids
09:23and they together are instrumental in causing the Stonewall riots.
09:33Look, I make big movies, you know, as everybody knows,
09:36but I love to make these smaller pictures in between.
09:39I did before that, Anonymous.
09:42And I just enjoy these films
09:44and I'm already looking for another one
09:46because it's like, keeps you going in a way.
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