00:05Non è facile torturare la gente, è un lavoro duro, fisicamente e mentalmente, non credo che la gente lo capisca.
00:30I sent the material for Mindhunter, and I realized that this was going to be a really exciting show, and
00:39an opportunity to work again with one of the best directors in Hollywood.
00:44And you?
00:45I got sent the audition through my agents, and got butterflies in my stomach at the idea of David Fincher,
00:53plus Netflix.
00:55And read the audition material, and just hadn't read material that was so complicated, and challenging, and interesting.
01:07With long scenes, with multiple twists and turns, that the idea of doing such dense material with such an amazing
01:15director seemed like a really great opportunity.
01:17How did you prepare for this character, making research about real serial killer or something?
01:25I started by reading the book by John Douglas, which our show is based on, and reading more about the
01:32world of serial killers and the FBI.
01:34The show takes place in the late 70s, so it was right after Hoover had died, so it was kind
01:41of a transitional moment in the 70s.
01:44And Holden, the character that I play via, interestingly, his girlfriend, kind of starts bringing in the idea of sociology
01:55and psychology to criminality.
02:00It was very black and white, like good guys versus bad guys, put someone behind bars, they're evil.
02:06But Holden sort of represents this idea that maybe you can talk to the serial killers and glean some insights,
02:13and perhaps these people that we've vilified could offer insights into their motivations to prevent that from happening in the
02:20future.
02:21Gli psicopatici sono convinti che non ci sia nulla di sbagliato in loro. Sono virtualmente impossibili da studiare, ma voi
02:26avete trovato il modo come in una perfetta condizione di laboratorio.
02:29Did you watch some other crime TV shows to prepare this one? Did you like some other crime TV shows?
02:39Our show is very different, I think, from the shows in this genre. Because the writers have really tried to
02:48show these criminals in an authentic way,
02:51not in the stylized sort of Hollywood version that we often see. And so a real attempt has been made
03:01to be as realistic as possible.
03:04And for that reason I think, and of course we're talking about the real serial killers.
03:08I mean the characters that Jonathan and I play are inspired by real guys, John Douglas and Robert Ressler.
03:14And then the killers that we will meet on our journey are also the very real guys.
03:19And truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. So we really kind of get under the hood and look at the
03:26brutal crimes that these men committed
03:28and try to understand what motivated them. So it's a different approach than I think other shows in the past
03:35have taken.
03:36And in Mindhunter there are many references to famous movies like the Al Pacino movie, Dog...
03:49Dog the Afternoon, yeah.
03:50And others. Did you re-watch something of these to prepare this?
03:56I did, yeah. I'd never actually never seen Dog the Afternoon. And so that was my...
04:00It came up in the script and I got it off of iTunes. What an amazing movie.
04:06And there was so much... It's so evocative of the time period, even though that was a little bit...
04:12The movie came out a little bit before the time that our show takes place.
04:17But also the hostage negotiation. There's a hostage negotiation in the very first scene of the first episode of Mindhunter
04:24that doesn't go so well. And so watching that in Dog the Afternoon was really interesting and informative for me
04:33as well.
04:34And just evocative of the time period.
04:37How can we anticipate some crazy if we don't know how crazy are we?
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