Lacson, Marcoleta trade barbs anew

Manila Bulletin

Sen. Panfilo Lacson and Sen. Rodante Marcoleta traded barbs anew, with Lacson accusing Marcoleta of acting as a “mouthpiece” for China and detained contractors, while Marcoleta denied the claim and called Lacson’s remarks “ad hominem” attacks.

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00:00Lord,

00:01Unang-una,

00:02ako po'y nagtatakagi ng Pangulo,

00:05pagka po pala si Senator Pink Lockson

00:08ang magdideliver ng privilege pizza,

00:11wala pa po tayong

00:12natetake up na kahit ano,

00:15siya pala'y

00:16masyadong special dito sa

00:18chamber natin. Kasi po,

00:21pagka kami, lalong-lalo na ako,

00:23kumbisan ay

00:25patatapusin na lahat muna.

00:27Aabot po ng

00:28halos alas 7 hanggang alas 8.

00:31Kaya kung minsan po,

00:32pagka ako nagdideliver ng

00:34speech, wala na si Senator

00:36Lockson.

00:38Ganun po pala siya ka-importante.

00:40Majority Leader, I think you should

00:42answer that particular

00:44statement.

00:44Yes, Mr. President,

00:46yung privileged speeches,

00:48alam mo, tatlong, dalawang linggo na lang po

00:50na iiwan, with due respect to

00:52Senator Mark Coleta. Talagang tinutulak natin

00:54yung legislation, una.

00:56Yung privileged speeches, we put always

00:58and it's been a practice in the past,

01:01in the tail end of the discussions,

01:04because the privileged speeches

01:06can take up a lot of time.

01:08Yung nangyari po kasi kapon,

01:10sa speech ni Senator Mark Coleta,

01:12with due respect to the two sides,

01:15binanggit po niya yung pangalan ni

01:17Senator Lockson.

01:18So, it is obvious that Senator Lockson

01:20would like to respond.

01:22So, usually, when it is personal and

01:24collective privilege, especially when

01:26they're trying to defend themselves,

01:27kasi gusto mong i-defend

01:29sanang sarili mo,

01:31binibigyan po natin

01:32ng pagkakataon.

01:33Ang senador na tumayo

01:37at any given point in time.

01:39Kaya kung sinabi din po sa akin

01:41ni Senator Mark Coleta

02:02ay binabanatan isang member ng Senado,

02:05obviously, that member of the Senate

02:07will stand and defend themselves.

02:09We have to give them priority.

02:11It goes for any member of the Senate,

02:12Mr. President.

02:13We will give the privilege

02:14to any member of the Senate.

02:16All right. Thank you.

02:17Mr. President, ang sinasabi ko lamang po ay

02:21ngayon ko lang po na nakita

02:24ang ganitong special treatment.

02:27Hindi ko naman sinasabi, Mr. President,

02:29na lahat ay ganito.

02:33Kasi po, yung kauna-una,

02:35yung una pa po bago ito,

02:36Mr. President, naaalala ko,

02:38tinapos muna lahat po ng bisita,

02:42pati po yung mga galing sa

02:43Southeast Asian Games.

02:46At kahuli-hulihan nga po,

02:48inabot po ako ng alas otso ng gabi.

02:50Yun lamang po.

02:51Ngunit gusto ko pong makapagtanong sana

02:54sa ating ginagalang na Senador Ping Lakson

02:57kung siya po ay papayag.

02:59My pleasure, Mr. President.

03:02Hindi ko po alam,

03:05Mr. President,

03:07Your Honor, kung papano ko,

03:10sana ko mag-uumpisa

03:11sapagkat hindi ako ang subject matter

03:14nung aking deliverance of privilege speech kahapon.

03:18Kaya kong sagutin at iisa-isain sa inyo,

03:21ngunit ang nangyari,

03:22parang ad hominem ang nangyari.

03:24Sa akin po,

03:25natutukoy lahat

03:26ang inyong privilege speech ngayon,

03:28samantalang ang inaasahan ko

03:30ay sasagutin nyo

03:32ang privilege speech kahapon.

03:34Kasi kung ganun pong mangyayari,

03:37Mr. President,

03:38malilihis na naman po tayo

03:40sa inaasahan ng ating mga mamamayan.

03:42Dito lilito ngayon

03:44ang nauna pong mga patakarang nakita ko

03:48sapagkat

03:49kailanman hindi natin makakalimutan

03:52at huwag nating kalimutan

03:54na talaga pong nilimas po ang kabangbayan.

03:59Yun ang po yung gusto nating pag-usapan dito.

04:03Kung sasagutin ko po ng isa-isang

04:05e binibintang po ninyo sa akin,

04:09e malilihis na naman po

04:10ang pinag-uusapan

04:11na kailangan-kailangan na po

04:13ng taong bayan

04:14na maalaman na po

04:15ang katotohanan.

04:16Sino po ang may pakana?

04:18Sino po ang mga mastermind

04:20sa nangyaring nakawan

04:22sa ating kabangbayan?

04:24Ito po ay hindi pangkaraniwang

04:27pagnanakawan,

04:28ginoong Pangulo.

04:29Yun po ba ang gusto ninyong mangyari?

04:32Ginoong Ping Langso?

04:34Negative po.

04:35Siguradong hindi po yun.

04:36Bakit po?

04:37Sino po naglilihis?

04:38Sino pa po nagsimula nito?

04:39Nung ano po

04:39privilege speech ninyo,

04:41hindi ko na sinagot

04:42kasi ayokong magkagulo.

04:44Pero enough is enough.

04:46Kahapon,

04:47nanonodol ko sa aking opisina,

04:49gusto kong bumaba,

04:50kaya lang malalim na ang gabi

04:51at ayokong maabala

04:53yung trabaho sa Senado.

04:54Kaya nagsabi ako sa ating

04:56Senate President

04:57at ito'y namanifest niya kahapon,

04:59narinig ko,

05:00na I was told

05:01na sasagot ako ngayong araw na ito.

05:03Wala pong gustong maglihis

05:05sa usaping plot control.

05:06Ako nga po,

05:08very passionate po ako dyan

05:09mulat sa pool.

05:10Wala po po kayo dito.

05:11Ako po'y talaga lumalaban

05:13sa korupsyon.

05:14Pagdating sa national budget,

05:16pagdating sa lahat ng usapin,

05:18hindi nyo po matatawaran

05:19ang aking hangarin,

05:22maituwid

05:22ang lahat ng katiwalian

05:24dito sa ating bansa

05:26dahil hindi po tayo muusad.

05:28Pero enough is enough.

05:29Patuloy po kayo

05:30sa pag-atake sa akin.

05:33Balikan nyo po,

05:34Recipsal Locator,

05:35andyan po lahat eh.

05:37Wala po ko inimbento.

05:39Salitan nyo po lahat yan eh.

05:41Sabihin nyo,

05:41ininsulto ko kayo.

05:45Sagutin nyo po.

05:47Totoo po ba o hindi

05:48yung ating napanood sa mga video?

05:50Totoo po ba o hindi

05:52yung aking mga binanggit?

05:55Tapos na po kayo?

05:57Tapos na po.

05:58Kasi po ganito eh.

06:00May I suggest that the two gentlemen

06:02address the chair

06:04instead of addressing each other.

06:06Sorry, Mr. President.

06:09Pagpangumanhin po ninyo,

06:10Ginong Pangulo,

06:11ngunit

06:12nakakalimutan po

06:14ng ating

06:16Senator Ping Lakson

06:18na siya po ang

06:19nagumpisa sa ngayon lang eh.

06:22Ako raw po

06:23ay defensor ni

06:25Vizcaya.

06:26Palagin niyang ipinipilit yun.

06:28Hindi niya makalimutan

06:29ang sinabi ko

06:31na nung ako po

06:33ay nasa Blue Ribbon Committee,

06:34tungkulin ko po kasi

06:37na ipaglaban

06:39ang sino man,

06:40witness man siya,

06:41resource person,

06:42siya po ang kauna-unahan

06:44na nag-apply

06:45ng Witness Protection Program.

06:47Sa aking palagay po,

06:48nung panahon na yun,

06:50ay kakailanganin namin siya

06:52sapagkat mga pangalang

06:53malalaki

06:54ang dapat na makuha natin.

06:58Hindi naman siya

07:03ang ibig ko sabihin,

07:05si Vizcaya po

07:06ang mismong

07:07nagbigay po

07:08ng

07:09kanyang

07:09kagustuhan.

07:11Nung una po,

07:12Mr. President,

07:12ayaw kong maniwala sa kanya eh.

07:15Kaya sinabi ko sa kanya,

07:16gumawa ka ng sulat,

07:17kahit sulat kamay,

07:19para sa ganun,

07:20walang masabi ang iba

07:21na parang ako pang

07:22nag-initiate sa iyo

07:23dahil hindi kita kakilala.

07:24Kailangan malaman muna natin

07:27kung ano ang laman

07:28ng iyong

07:30testimony.

07:32At kailangan

07:33ma-determine natin

07:35kung talagang

07:35meron kang may kukontribute

07:37ng mga pangalan

07:38kasi

07:38importante na lumitaw

07:40ang mga pangalan

07:42ng mga taong

07:43talagang utak

07:44ng

07:44pagnanakaw na ito.

07:47Yun po ang pinag-umpisahan nun eh.

07:49Dahil mabigat

07:50ang kanyang gagawin,

07:51Mr. President,

07:54nakita ko sa kanyang

07:57pagkagustuhan

07:57na siya sumailalim

07:59sa Witness Protection Program.

08:00Kinilala ko naman yun,

08:01Mr. President.

08:03Malalagay nga sa alanganin

08:04ang buhay niya.

08:05Yun po naman

08:06ang nakalagay sa batas eh.

08:07Bakit ngayon

08:08aakusahin ako,

08:09aakusahan ako na

08:10ako pa ang nag-de-defensa

08:12sa kanya?

08:14Eh, nandoon naman po

08:15sa batas eh.

08:16Kaya nga po

08:16nang ipilit po

08:17ng ating DOJ Secretary

08:18na pinipilit niya

08:20magkaroon ng restitution,

08:21sinabi ko,

08:22huwag mong gagawin yan.

08:23Wala naman sa batas yan eh.

08:25Ipipilit ninyo

08:26sa pumagitan ng memorandum ninyo

08:28na kahit wala sa batas

08:30para siya maging

08:31katanggap-tanggap

08:32na Witness Protection Program

08:35witness,

08:37ay gagawin ninyong

08:38mag-restitute siya.

08:39Wala po sa batas yun,

08:40Mr. President.

08:42Yun po yung nilalabang ko.

08:44O yung napagkamalan niya

08:45na dinindepensahan ko.

08:46Hindi po pwede yung ganon,

08:48Mr. President.

08:49So, hanggang ngayon,

08:51pati ba naman

08:52ang asawa ko

08:53na independent director,

08:57kakalantariin pa rito,

08:58saan ba natin

08:58pag-uumpisa

08:59ng pag-uusap na ito?

09:00Pagkatapos,

09:01ipipilit na naman ninyo

09:02yung Kalayan Island Group,

09:05ano po bang patakaran dito,

09:06Mr. President?

09:07Ginong Lakson?

09:08Kailangan bang

09:09samot-samot

09:09ang gagawin mo

09:10para sa isang privilege, please?

09:13Kayo po yung matagal na

09:14sa Senado.

09:15Alam ko po,

09:17kabisado ninyo

09:18yung patakaran dito,

09:19ang isang privilege speech

09:20nakatutok lang

09:21sa isang subject matter.

09:23Pero ang gagawin po ninyong

09:24samot-samot ito,

09:26at pagkatapos,

09:27mag-uumpisa kayo na

09:28para bang

09:29ang nilalaman ng privilege speech

09:32ninyo e

09:33puro ad hominem.

09:35Wala po tayong

09:37matatapos dito.

09:39Ang hangarin po natin dito

09:42ay yung subject matter

09:44na pinipilit natin

09:45sapagat ito po

09:47ang inihintay

09:48ng taong bayan.

09:49Kung sasagutin ko po

09:50ng isa-isa

09:51at ang iba po

09:52isinagot ko na,

09:54ay lalayo po tayo.

09:55Ang aking pong tinatanong

09:57sa aking privilege speech

09:58kahapon

10:00ay bakit parang

10:04hindi ninyo pinagbigyan

10:06ang ibang mga tao

10:07na napakarami nilang

10:09dapat sabihin

10:10para sa ganun

10:11malaman natin

10:12ang katotohanan.

10:13Kayo po ang nagsabi,

10:15Senator Laxon,

10:16Mr. President,

10:19napupuntahan natin

10:20lahat ng lugar

10:22na kung saan

10:22ang ebidensya.

10:23Hindi po ba

10:24kayo po'y nagpahayag

10:26noon dito sa plenario,

10:28Mr. President,

10:30Senator Laxon,

10:33at sinabi nyo

10:34na ang presidente

10:35ay name-drop

10:36ni Yusek

10:37Bersamin.

10:39Hindi ko man lang po

10:40nakita yung kanyang

10:41katauhan

10:42na ipinatawag nyo dito.

10:44Samantalang

10:45napakalaki

10:46nang dapat niyang

10:47ipaliwanag

10:48sapagkat kayo po

10:49ang nagsabi

10:50sa pamamagitan

10:51ng pagtitiwala ninyo

10:52sa ibinigayin na

10:53testimony

10:54ni Yusek Bernardo

10:55na ni name-drop

10:56niya ang presidente.

10:58100 billion pesos

11:00pong pinag-uusapan

11:00dito

11:01na kung saan

11:02ang porsyentong

11:03tinanggap nila

11:04sa ngayon din

11:05sa inyong

11:05pagpapahayag

11:06ay 8 billion pesos.

11:09Nagtataka po kami

11:10ang taong bayan

11:12hindi nyo man lang

11:14pinatawag si

11:16Yusek Bersalin.

11:18Nagtataka din po ako

11:20alam po ninyo ito

11:22nakiusap

11:24nagpresenta si

11:29Ex-Governor

11:30Chavit Simpson.

11:32At ipo

11:33iminongkahay ko po

11:34sa inyo

11:34at ang sabi nyo

11:35sige po

11:35sa susunod na

11:37pagdinig natin

11:38ay iimbitahan natin siya

11:40sapagkat marami ro

11:42siyang gustong

11:42ibahagi sa ating

11:44pagdinig

11:45tungkol sa mga

11:46projects sa Ilocos

11:47ngunit hindi po ninyo

11:49tinawag.

11:50Yun po yung

11:51pinagtataka.

11:52Ito po yung gusto ko

11:53sanang sagutin ninyo

11:54sa akin po

11:55wala nang

11:56kwenta

11:57kahit na ako

11:58ipatutsadahan ninyo

11:59na ganito ako

12:00ganito kami

12:01ganyan

12:01hindi na po

12:02mahalaga sa akin yun eh.

12:04Ang mahalaga po

12:05Mr. President

12:06ang taong bayan

12:07ngayon

12:08na naghihintay

12:08ng kasagutan

12:09sa maraming

12:10katanungan nila

12:11kung magagawa pa natin

12:13na buklatin lahat

12:14ang dapat buklatin

12:15kilalanin

12:17kung sino

12:17dapat kilalanin

12:19ang gusto ko pa po

12:20sana

12:20Mr. President

12:21sana sagutin po ninyo

12:24Senator

12:24Lakson

12:26May I respond

12:27Mr. President

12:29May I respond

12:30Mr. President

12:31Yes please

12:31go ahead

12:33Mr. President

12:34Your Honor

12:35have you read

12:36the Parcel Committee

12:37report

12:38ganito po

12:39ang nangyari

12:40Mr. President

12:40Have you read

12:41the Parcel Committee

12:41report

12:42that is my

12:42question

12:43Mr. President

12:44Binasa ko po

12:46ngunit

12:46hindi ko po

12:47magawan ng paraan

12:48kung papano ko po

12:51itatrato

12:51kasi kahit na po

12:53ganon

12:54ang nangyari

12:55tinignan ko po eh

12:57kaya lang

12:57sabi ko sa mga

12:58staff ko

12:59nung magmeeting kami

13:01bakit ka ako

13:02wala man lang

13:03firma ito

13:05ito po

13:06italiwas po sa inyong

13:07ipinahayag kahapon

13:08sinabi nyo rito

13:13Patapusin nyo muna ako

13:14para may paliwanag ko

13:16kung bakit hindi man lang

13:17ako sumagot sa inyo

13:18dito sa ibinigay nyo

13:20material na ito

13:21kasi sinabi po ninyo

13:23for one

13:24I have it

13:25I have it on record

13:27that his office

13:28already received

13:29a copy of the

13:29BRC

13:30BRC Parcel Committee

13:32report as early

13:33as February 11

13:34both hard

13:35and soft copies

13:36but he has not

13:37signed it

13:38even with

13:39I dissent remark

13:43it follows

13:44that as chairman

13:45I was first to sign

13:46before routing

13:47the same contrary

13:48to his claim

13:49that I did not

13:50kahapon lang po

13:51namin nakita ito

13:52Mr. President

13:53pero hawak ko po dito

13:55yung ipinrint

13:57pinrint namin

13:58kopya

13:58na nakuwa lang namin

14:00sa isang link

14:01sa PDF document

14:02kami lang po

14:03nagprint nun

14:04wala pong pirma

14:07Mr. President

14:08we assume that

14:09it came from

14:10the office

14:10of

14:11Senator Luxon

14:12or probably

14:13from the

14:14Blue Ribbon

14:14Committee

14:14I would not

14:15assume otherwise

14:16so sabi ko

14:17kung walang

14:18firma ito

14:19wala man lang

14:20covering letter

14:20ano bang gagawin

14:21namin dito

14:22gagawin ba

14:23nating banderitas

14:24ito

14:25ganun po

14:26ganun po ba

14:27yung pagbibigay

14:28ng isang

14:28importanteng dokumento

14:30kung inaakala po

14:30yung importante ito

14:32e bakit

14:33wala naman pong

14:33pirmaman lang

14:35sa akin palagay

14:36hindi po ganun

14:37ang pagtrato sa amin

14:39bilang membro

14:40ng Blue Ribbon

14:41Committee

14:41dapat man lang sana

14:42kahit na

14:44initial nyo lang po

14:45at meron siguro

14:46kayong

14:46instruction doon

14:48anong gagawin namin

14:48dito

14:50Before Senator

14:51Laxon responds

14:53will you answer

14:54the question

14:55did you read it

14:55or not

14:56that was the question

14:58Yes Mr. President

14:59You read it

15:00Okay

15:00Senator Laxon

15:01Yes Mr. President

15:02I mentioned it

15:04in my privilege speech

15:05binigyan po natin

15:06ng tigitig

15:07isang kopya

15:08na may watermark

15:09ng kanilang opisina

15:10Una

15:11nagkaroon po tayo

15:12ng isang

15:13masamang experience

15:15na nag leak

15:16yung nauna

15:17ng ni-rout

15:18na committee report

15:19so naisip namin

15:20para matunto natin

15:22kung saan opisina

15:23manggagaling ang leak

15:24bigyan natin

15:25ng tigitig

15:25isang kopya

15:26hindi po talaga

15:27pipirmahan yun

15:28kasi advanced copy

15:29po yun eh

15:30nasabihan po namin

15:31ng kanilang mga staff

15:32na kapag ready na sila

15:35na pumirma

15:36at nabasa na nila

15:37hudyatan nila kami

15:38ipapadala namin

15:39yung physical

15:41or yung hard copy

15:43na andon po

15:44yung signature page

15:45nakapirma po ako doon

15:46hindi ko po pwede

15:48ikalat yun

15:49nang wala akong pirma

15:50kasi ako yung chairman

15:51hindi niyo po narinig

15:53yung aking paliwanag

15:54sa aking privilege speech

15:55na talagang

15:55walang pirma

15:56yung aming ikinalat

15:58sa bawat miyembro

15:59dahil yun

16:00para lang mapabilis

16:02kasi 400 pages po

16:03alam ko magtatagal

16:05mabasa

16:05so para simultaneously

16:07isipin niyo po

16:08Mr. President

16:09kung isang kopya

16:10lamang yun

16:11na aking igagala

16:12sa labimpito

16:14o dalawampung

16:15miyembro

16:16ng Blue Ribbon Committee

16:18isang taon po

16:19baka hindi pa tapos

16:20mabasa

16:21so gumawa kami

16:22ng isang

16:23nag-device po kami

16:24na isang pamamaraan

16:25para simultaneously

16:27sabay-sabay nila

16:28mabasa

16:28with the advice

16:30to their staff

16:31na kapag nabasa na

16:32at ready nang pumirma

16:33sabihan kami

16:35dadali namin yung

16:36kopya

16:37na mayroong signature page

16:39at sa kanila pipirma

16:40at katunayan

16:40kahapon po

16:41si Senator Bamaquino

16:44binigay namin sa kanya

16:45yung may signature page

16:46at pumirma siya

16:49hindi po matatapos

16:50kung yung 467 yata

16:52na pages

16:52iisa-isahay namin

16:54iikot

16:56mahirap po

16:57gumawa na nga kami

16:58ng paraan

16:59para matakil na sa floor

17:01ma-i-defend ko

17:02at makabog-forward tayo

17:04na tulad ng binanggit ko

17:06sa aking privilege page

17:08makapagsimula na tayo

17:10uli ng mga panibagong

17:11pagdinig

17:11ngayon

17:12sinabi po ni

17:13Senator Marcoleta

17:15na

17:17bakit hini-inimbitahan

17:19si Undersecretary Persamine

17:21kaya ko po tinanong

17:22kung nabasa niya na yung report

17:24kung meron po siya

17:25may pakita sa akin

17:26doon sa committee report

17:28o doon sa PSN

17:29doon sa minutes

17:31ng pagdinig

17:32na nabanggit

17:33ang pangalan ni

17:34Undersecretary Persamine

17:35bukas na bukas din po

17:37o bigyan natin

17:383-day notice rule

17:39tatawag po

17:40kung na pagdinig

17:41ipapatawag natin

17:42si Undersecretary Persamine

17:43ang pinabanggit siya po

17:44yung aking interpellation

17:45sa DBCC

17:46na kung saan

17:48si Undersecretary Bernardo

17:50gumawa ng personal na sulat

17:52kay Pangulong Bongbong Marcos

17:54at sinasabi niya doon

17:56na ito yung mga personalidad

17:58na alam niya

17:59na naalala niya

17:59na merong allocable

18:01at kung ano-ano pa

18:02wala po sa Blue Reboot Committee

18:05minutes yun

18:06sa labas po yan sa plenario

18:08sa DBCC

18:09sa National Budget Deliberation

18:11So kung

18:12may papakita po sa akin

18:14ng ating kasamahan

18:16Senator Marcoleta

18:17na merong isang mention

18:20sa affidavit

18:21o sa salaysay

18:22ni Undersecretary Bernardo

18:24na binanggit

18:26si Undersecretary Persamine

18:27e di tumawag po tayo

18:29ng pagdinig

18:29at mag-motion siya

18:30na ipatawag

18:32kung sino man

18:32ang gusto niya patawag

18:33Ngayon si Governor

18:35Travis Simpson

18:36wala namang pong paliwanag

18:38ano po yung itetest si Pai

18:40konektado po ba

18:41sa ating

18:42sa issue at hand

18:43which is the

18:44flood control projects

18:45kung konektado po

18:47sana sumulat po siya

18:48sa chairman

18:48at sinabi niya

18:50eto yung lalamanin

18:51ng itetest si Pai

18:53o eto yung

18:54naka-attach yung

18:55draft affidavit

18:55ni Governor

18:57Travis Simpson

18:58sino na man ako

18:59para tumanggi

19:00na ipatawag

19:01kung sino man yung

19:02resource person

19:02e nagpadala nga siya

19:04ng surprise witness

19:05siya lang nakakaalam e

19:06hindi ko po inawat e

19:13at noong hinanap

19:16kong pilit

19:16pinagtanong ko

19:17yung mga adresses

19:17lahat ng mga

19:18kakilala ni Gutesa

19:21at

19:22inalam po namin

19:23sa pamamagitan

19:24ng CCTV footage

19:26baka naman

19:27merong sumalubong

19:28o merong kasama

19:29na pwede natin

19:30matuntun

19:31kung nasan si Gutesa

19:32ganon po kasi di

19:33ang aking pagnanais

19:34na talagang

19:36get to the bottom

19:37of this issue

19:38pero pigla po

19:39nawala e

19:40anong po magagawa ko?

19:44Mr. President

19:46wala nga pong

19:47nakasulat

19:48dun sa transcript

19:50tungkol nga po

19:51dun sa

19:52binanggit niya

19:53sa plenary

19:54na pangalang

19:55Adrian Bersamin

19:57e papano nga pong

19:59mababanggit dun

20:00Mr. President

20:00hindi nga niya

20:01pinatawag e

20:03samantalang

20:03dapat niyang ipatawag

20:04siya mismo

20:05ang nag-highlight

20:06isip-isipin po ninyo

20:08nagawa po

20:09ni Senator Luxon

20:10na isama sa plenary debates

20:12ng ating

20:162026 budget

20:17ganon ka-importante

20:19ang bahagi na yun

20:20Mr. President

20:21hindi ba dapat

20:24ipinahayag mo yun e

20:25malaking bagay yun

20:26ibinulgar mo pa nga e

20:28there are two

20:29public officials

20:30I will reveal

20:31this morning

20:32ganon lang

20:34pati hindi mo pinatawag

20:36ang pinatawag mo yun

20:37malinaw na malinaw

20:39nalagay sana

20:39sa transcript

20:41ganon lang naman

20:42ang ibig sabihin e

20:42sa mga katwid

20:43iniwasan po Mr. President

20:45para hindi malagay

20:46sa transcript

20:47pagkatapos

20:48ikakatwiran po ninyo

20:50eh kung nasa transcript

20:51di sana

20:52pinatawag ko

20:53baliktad po

20:54ang ginawa ninyo

20:55Mr. President

20:55katulad din po

20:57sa 30

20:58na rest rates

21:00of South Forbes

21:01ilan po yung

21:02binanggit

21:03ng mga tao

21:03doon

21:04hindi ko po

21:05sinasabing

21:06totoo yun

21:06pero

21:07for purposes

21:08of the inquiry

21:08and investigation

21:09kung talagang ganon

21:11kalawak

21:12ang inyong pananaw

21:13dahil pati nga po

21:14yung pagpunta

21:15ni Gutesa

21:16pati CCTV po

21:17pinakita ninyo

21:19and dami po

21:20sana ang pagkakato

21:21na nakita sana

21:21lahat nung mga

21:22binanggit ni Saldiko

21:23na mga

21:24ginamit na sasakyan

21:27makikita doon

21:28sa pagitan ng

21:29alas 9

21:29hanggang alas 10

21:30ng umaga

21:31tawagin natin

21:33yung

21:33kung sino man

21:33yung

21:35security

21:36agency

21:38doon

21:38pero

21:39hindi po ninyo

21:40ginawa

21:41pero sasabihin po

21:43natin

21:43you wanted

21:44to emphasize

21:44one point

21:45kung nasaan

21:46ang ebidensya

21:47ay talagang

21:48pupuntahan

21:49natin

21:50kayo po

21:51ang inconsistent

21:52pagkatapos

21:53ako ang sasabihin

21:54ninyong inconsistent

21:55ang dami po

21:58nakiusap ako

21:59na sabi nga natin

22:02ang dami po

22:03tumuturo

22:04sa pangalan

22:05ni Martin Romualdez

22:07inimbita po ninyo

22:08hindi dumating

22:10nakiusap ako

22:11na imbitahan ulit

22:13ang sabi po ninyo

22:14sa magitan ng inyong

22:15interview

22:17eh kung pupunta

22:18sir ito

22:18welcome

22:19kung hindi siya pupunta

22:20wala tayong magagawa

22:21because of

22:21inter-parliamentary

22:22courtesy

22:24Mr. President

22:27hindi po

22:28karanaywang

22:28pagnanakaw

22:29ang nangyari

22:29sa kasaysayan

22:30ng ating bansa

22:31hindi po ba

22:33ninyo

22:33naiisip

22:34mismong

22:35kabang bayan

22:36ang tumagilid

22:37pagkatapos

22:38magtatago

22:39kayo

22:39sa prinsipyo

22:41o doktrina

22:41ng inter-parliamentary

22:43courtesy

22:43kung ako po

22:45ang chairman

22:45ng Blue Ribbon Committee

22:46Mr. Chair

22:47Mr. President

22:50hindi ko po

22:51igagalang

22:52inter-parliamentary

22:53immunity

22:54sapagkat

22:54ang pinag-uusapan dito

22:56eh interest

22:57ng mamamayan

22:58huwag po tayong

22:59magtago

22:59kung saan-saan

23:00sinabi po ninyo

23:01Mr. President

23:02Senator Luxon

23:05yung apostille

23:06convention

23:08hindi pa

23:09pinahayag po ninyo

23:10sa isang

23:11pag-i-interview

23:12ninyo

23:13na kung

23:14salde ko lamang

23:15ay makakuha

23:16ng isang

23:16subscribe statement

23:17kahit sa

23:18Zoom lang

23:19ipatatawag namin siya

23:21bakit hindi po

23:22ganun ang ginawa ninyo

23:23pwede naman siyang

23:24mag-Zoom

23:25pagkatapos na magkaroon

23:26ang apostille

23:26sworn statement

23:29bakit hindi po

23:30ninyo ginawa

23:30meron naman pong

23:32Zoom eh

23:32natatakot yung tao

23:34nanganganib

23:34ang kanyang buhay

23:35at palagay ko naman

23:36nanganganib nga talaga

23:38iintay pa buhay ninyo

23:39na humarap sa inyo

23:40pwede naman ang Zoom eh

23:41kung talagang

23:42gusto nyo

23:42tuntunin

23:43ang lahat

23:44ng mga

23:44ebidensya

23:45na dapat

23:45nating puntahan

23:46ito po yung

23:47pinupunto

23:48ng aking

23:50privilege speech

23:51kahapon eh

23:52hindi ko nga po

23:53alam na

23:53kapag ako po

23:54ang mag-deliver

23:55ng privilege speech

23:56Mr. President

23:56palagi po

23:57kayong nawawala

23:58kasi nga

23:58nasa bandang

23:59huli na po

23:59ako eh

24:00pero kung talagang

24:01gusto nyo

24:01lamang

24:02alam nyo naman

24:03nasa agenda

24:04po natin

24:04kung sino po

24:05ang tatayo

24:05para mag-deliver

24:06ng privilege speech eh

24:08ayaw ko pong isipin

24:09na sinasadyan ninyo

24:10ngunit

24:11tarinig naman po ninyo eh

24:12Mr. President

24:14pagkatapos

24:15isasama yung

24:15Kalayan Island Group

24:16ano po po talagang

24:17pinag-usapan natin dito

24:19yung kapakanan ng bayan

24:20pinipilit po ninyong

24:23pinagtatanggol ko

24:23ang sina

24:26sa March 12 po

24:28Mr. President

24:30Senator Laxon

24:33eh sana po

24:34may panahon kayo

24:35sapagkat pinatawag ko

24:37sa magitan ng isang

24:38resolution

24:39at ito po

24:40ay alam na

24:40ni Senator Irwin

24:42pinatawag ko po

24:43ang Namria

24:44pinatawag ko po

24:45ang Philippine Coast Guard

24:46Philippine Navy

24:47ang DFA

24:50pinatawag ko rin po

24:51si Justice Carpio

24:52at saka yung

24:54profesor sa UP

24:55at kung sino man po

24:56ang entresado

24:57pero once and for all

24:59malaman po natin

25:01dito

25:01kung sino ang sinungaling

25:03kung sino ang makatsina

25:05kung sino ang naggagaling

25:07galingan at nagpapanggap

25:09na expert in

25:10international law

25:11sana po

25:12Senator Laxon

25:14nandun po kayo

25:16Mr. President

25:17may we hear

25:17from the chairman

25:18of the foreign

25:19relations committee

25:20because his name

25:21was mentioned

25:21may I just

25:22confirm

25:23if indeed

25:24he will call

25:25for a hearing

25:26and invite

25:27those people

25:27mentioned

25:28Mr. President

25:29with your

25:30respect

25:31well

25:32as requested

25:33if you

25:34would like

25:35to respond

25:35Senator

25:36Irwin Tulpo

25:37thank you

25:38Mr. Chair

25:39this morning

25:40I have received

25:42a letter

25:42from the

25:43Department of

25:44Foreign Affairs

25:44citing

25:46that

25:46they cannot

25:48attend

25:48including

25:49Namria

25:49Mr. Chair

25:51and we have

25:52already

25:53written

25:54to the

25:54various

25:55chiefs

25:56of staff

25:56of the

25:57members

25:58of the

25:59committee

26:00on

26:00foreign affairs

26:01they cited

26:03including

26:03Namria

26:04that they

26:05cannot attend

26:06because of

26:06the fact

26:07that it

26:07is a matter

26:08of national

26:08security

26:09Mr. President

26:10and I also

26:11have a copy

26:12that will be

26:13sent to your

26:13office

26:13Mr. President

26:15the reason

26:16given by

26:17Namria

26:19the armed

26:20forces of

26:21the Philippines

26:21and the

26:21Department of

26:22Foreign Affairs

26:22Mr. President

26:25In other words

26:25Mr. President

26:27the gentleman

26:28from Pampanga

26:29is confirming

26:30something

26:30that is not

26:31confirmed

26:33Mr. President

26:36that is

26:37too much

26:37of a statement

26:39kausap

26:40ko pa lamang

26:41ang

26:41chairman

26:42at

26:43kaming dalawa

26:44po

26:44nagkakausap

26:45at

26:45niremind

26:46pa nga ako

26:46yung mga

26:47nakarang araw

26:48na

26:48March 12

26:48okay ka na

26:49so

26:50ang sabi ko

26:51sa kanya

26:51ito po

26:52ang dapat

26:53nating

26:53maimbitean

26:54bakit

26:55naman po

26:55nagkaroon

26:56ng

26:56issue

26:57sa

26:58national

26:59security

26:59ang

27:01pagdinig

27:02tungkol

27:02sa

27:04usapin

27:05sa

27:07West

27:08Philippine Sea

27:08Mr.

27:09President

27:11ito na

27:12naman po ba

27:13ay patakaran

27:14para ilihis

27:15na naman

27:15hindi po

27:15pag-uusapan

27:16dito

27:16kung ano

27:17anumang

27:18klaseng

27:18teritoryo

27:18pag-uusapan

27:19dito

27:19ang pag-uusapan

27:21lang natin

27:22ay yung

27:22masigalot

27:23na

27:23pinalalaki

27:24nila

27:24at hindi

27:24nila

27:25maintindihan

27:25walang

27:26kamatay

27:26ang

27:27West

27:27Philippine Sea

27:27nakalagay po

27:29kasi

27:29sa

27:29Administrative

27:30Order

27:30Number

27:3129

27:32dated

27:332012

27:34Mr.

27:34President

27:35labing

27:36apat

27:36na taon

27:37nang

27:37nakararaan

27:38minanduhan

27:38mismo

27:39ang

27:40NAMRIA

27:40at

27:42ang

27:42DFA

27:42na mag

27:43submit

27:44ng mapa

27:44at

27:45mga

27:45charts

27:46sa

27:47opisina

27:47ng

27:47United

27:48Nations

27:48General

27:49as

27:49UN

27:50Secretary

27:50General

27:51at

27:52inotify

27:52ang

27:53lahat

27:53ng

27:53international

27:54organizations

27:55katulad

27:56ng

27:56IHO

27:57Ano po

27:58bang

27:58ibig

27:58sabihin

27:59nun

27:59Mr.

27:59President

28:01Alam

28:01po ba

28:02ito

28:02ni

28:02Senator

28:02Laxon

28:03yung

28:04Administrative

28:05Order

28:05Number

28:0529

28:08This is

28:09something

28:09between

28:10the

28:10Chairman

28:10of the

28:11Foreign

28:11Relations

28:12Committee

28:12and the

28:13gentleman

28:13from

28:13Tarlac

28:14and

28:14Pampanga

28:14Mr.

28:15President

28:15I don't

28:17know

28:17Administrative

28:18Order

28:18Number

28:1829

28:19Hindi

28:20po

28:20ninyo

28:21alam

28:21sasabihin

28:21ko

28:21sa inyo

28:22I don't

28:23need to

28:23know

28:23Mr.

28:24President

28:24I'm not

28:25interested

28:26Hindi po

28:26kayo

28:27interesado

28:27sa isang

28:28bagay

28:28na

28:28napaka

28:28importante

28:29sa ating

28:29bansa

28:30hanggang

28:31ngayon

28:31hindi

28:31ma-i-drawing

28:32ang

28:32West

28:32Philippine

28:33Sea

28:33hindi

28:33kayo

28:33interesado

28:35hindi

28:36po

28:37interesado

28:37sa

28:38sinasabi

28:38ninyo

28:38Maring

28:40hindi

28:40sinasabi

28:41sa

28:41sinasabi

28:43ko

28:43ngunit

28:44sasabihin

28:45ko

28:45interesado

28:46ang

28:46buong

28:46Pilipinas

28:47sapagat

28:47ito

28:48dito

28:49nakasalalay

28:49po

28:50kung

28:50sino

28:51nagsasabi

28:51ng

28:51totoo

28:52So

28:53ayaw po

28:54ninyong

28:54maalaman

28:54ng

28:54totoo

28:55Ginong

28:55Lakson

28:56kasi po

28:57Mr.

28:58President

28:58ang

28:59ipapalabas

28:59na naman

29:00niya

29:00yung

29:00China

29:01may

29:01karapatan

29:02sa lugar

29:03na yan

29:03kaya

29:04ayaw ko

29:04na po

29:04marinig

29:05kasi

29:05ilang

29:06beses

29:06na po

29:06natin

29:07narinig

29:07yan

29:07medyo

29:07masakit

29:08na

29:08sa

29:08tinga

29:09kaya

29:10sinasabi

29:10ko

29:10ayaw ko

29:11na

29:11marinig

29:11kung

29:12nang

29:12gagaling

29:12sa

29:12kanya

29:13Mr.

29:13President

29:13Si

29:15Senador

29:15Lakson

29:15ay

29:17pagkakalam

29:18isang

29:18magaling

29:20na

29:20investigador

29:22ngayon

29:22po

29:22pala

29:23yung

29:23manguhula

29:23na

29:23paano

29:25po

29:25niya

29:25nahula

29:26the

29:28debate

29:28is

29:29going

29:29into

29:30motives

29:31and

29:31all of

29:32that

29:32so

29:32motopropio

29:34the

29:34presiding

29:36officer

29:36declares

29:36session

29:38suspended

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