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Will players want to come to New England to play for Mike Vrabel?

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00:00This 617 text for Wiggy and Curtis, which reads,
00:05Mike Vrabel has done such a great job with the culture here.
00:09Why do you want a malcontent like A.J. Brown on this football team?
00:15Is he a malcontent? I don't know.
00:17I don't know. I think he's just at odds with the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:19He wasn't a malcontent in Tennessee.
00:21I know it's a long time ago, but was this guy pissed when they brought in Corey Dillon,
00:25who defined malcontent?
00:26Yeah.
00:27I mean, Randy Moss was a malcontent with the Raiders.
00:31He came here, did pretty well.
00:32People said Steph Diggs was.
00:34Right, exactly.
00:34No issues with Steph Diggs.
00:35I think it's really the culture is about how you respect your head coach, right?
00:43And if your head coach gets the respect that he needs, that's where the culture is set,
00:48and that's where a head coach can correct issues
00:54that somebody might have had at another place.
00:57So when you start to look at Mike Vrabel and the respect level that he'll get from players,
01:04you could see where that's at.
01:06The locker room is policing itself now with guys like Milton Williams, guys like Splane,
01:13guys like on the offensive side of the ball, Morgan Moses.
01:17So when a new player comes in, that locker room has enough veterans in there to say,
01:23here's how we do things here.
01:25So you don't guess because of Mike Vrabel or the veterans on this team
01:29that you would get the A.J. Brown that is sitting on the bench reading a book?
01:34No.
01:34No, because think about this, right?
01:36When you look at that Eagles team, we've seen a lot of culture issues with them
01:44just on the sidelines with other positions,
01:47whether if it's the D-line coach fighting with another coach,
01:51a D-lineman fighting with a D-line coach,
01:53like issues that have kind of started to kind of percolate over there in Philadelphia
01:59where they're the A.J. Brown reading a book on a side,
02:03like those things, so you're seeing a culture that there's not a lot of respect
02:09in Philadelphia for the head coach and Nick Sariani,
02:13and so you're starting to see like a lot of these things, you know,
02:17kind of transpire over there where you're not going to see that here in New England
02:22because the culture that Mike Vrabel has created
02:26and more so that people and players respect him.
02:31Like if I respect my head coach, I'm not going to bump him on the sideline
02:36or I'm not going to MF him in front of everybody.
02:39So they don't – some of those guys don't respect Nick Sariani.
02:42That's a fact.
02:44Yep.
02:44I'm not going to – you know, and I think like, you know,
02:47there are times that they talk about a great player and a Georgia Bulldog,
02:52Jalen Cotter, and some of the things that he might do on the sideline
02:55and some of those things.
02:56Like if you're doing that, that to me says you don't respect that coach,
03:02and it goes back to what we were talking about with kids and, you know,
03:05the home training, you don't have a fear for what that head coach might do.
03:10And if you don't fear that and respect that head coach because of the consequences,
03:14then you'll do a Travis Kelsey and you'll bump Andy Reid.
03:17That's why I'm not worried about a single player out there.
03:19There couldn't be – you couldn't show me one player that has any type of off-field issues,
03:24and if Mike Vrabel wants him, I trust that Mike Vrabel is going to be able
03:27to put him in his place.
03:28Really?
03:28Yeah.
03:28After just one season here?
03:30Yep.
03:31Not a single issue.
03:32I think that if somebody is coming to play here, they want to play for Mike Vrabel,
03:36if Mike Vrabel is willing to have them come even if they've got issues off the field,
03:39and I'm not saying A.J. Brown has.
03:41Right.
03:41I don't believe that A.J. Brown is malcontent.
03:43I just think if Mike Vrabel is willing to take on any player,
03:48he has the ability to get them in line.
03:50Yeah.
03:50And A.J. Brown, I wouldn't even have concern with him.
03:54No, no, no, no.
03:54Because we already know how he feels about Mike Vrabel.
03:57And I completely agree with you, Courtney.
03:59Like, if Tyreek Hill came here, he would fall right in line on the Vrabel.
04:04And that's kind of the point that you're trying to make a guy like that.
04:07A.J. Brown I don't think has any issues.
04:08I'm just saying there is not a single player out there that has any issues off the field
04:12that I don't think Mike Vrabel could get into line.
04:14So Andy Reid is a lesser coach?
04:17No, no.
04:17I think that guys don't respect Andy Reid as much.
04:19They respect Mike Vrabel.
04:20And I'll back you on that 100%.
04:23I think the thing that – why?
04:25Because Mike Vrabel played the game?
04:27No, no, no.
04:27I think people like Andy Reid, and I think there was that respect level for Andy Reid.
04:32But I think now it's become – especially with some of the newer players
04:35and some of the younger players, and even the Travis Kelsey,
04:38I think they take his kindness for weakness.
04:42Yeah.
04:42And he allows that.
04:44And he's like this goofy older guy.
04:46Right.
04:46And so when Travis Kelsey does bump him, he then makes a joke about it.
04:50Yeah.
04:50And so everybody else on the team sees that, and they're like –
04:54so like if Arashi Rice sees that, he's like –
04:56I don't – like if he yells at me, like whatever.
04:59Yeah, I just don't – I think that the off-field stuff is very different
05:02with A.J. Brown versus Tyreek Hill.
05:05Like I do not have faith –
05:05No, I agree with you there.
05:06But we're just talking personality.
05:08No, I know what I'm saying.
05:09I would – I do not have faith that Vrabel or any great coach before or after
05:13is someone that you could trust to keep Tyreek Hill in line
05:15because he has been a wild card going at the beat of his own drum for a very long time.
05:20Because you got to understand, like the off-field stuff, like even, you know, here, right,
05:24there are alleged situations that are going on with Christian Balmore and Steph Diggs at the time.
05:31Well, both of those incidences occurred while Mike Vrabel was the head coach.
05:38Right.
05:38So you can't necessarily say that he manages everything.
05:41No, no, no, no.
05:41But I'm not talking about the off-the-field stuff.
05:44I'm talking about the respect on the field stuff.
05:48Like the off-the-field stuff, they can still respect you as a coach.
05:51They're going to do what they want to do off the field.
05:53Like that has nothing to do with Mike Vrabel.
05:56He might preach a great gospel to these guys on what they need to do off the field.
06:01But that's about them.
06:02That doesn't really have to do with the culture.
06:04I also think, like, if you look back on that, Christian Balmore, it was August 8th.
06:08We didn't know about it for months and months and months.
06:10Steph Diggs, we didn't know about it when it first happened.
06:13Like the way it was handled internally, if that was Gerard Mayo as the head coach,
06:17that would have been out there.
06:19Like there was too much dysfunction when it came to the Patriots franchise
06:22just a year before.
06:24Ah, neutralized.
06:25Bam.
06:26I think the way that it was handled internally, like, shows what a leader Mike Vrabel is
06:30and how he handles his players.
06:32Just keeping it quiet.
06:33Yeah.
06:34But the bigger thing...
06:35But why would the team at any point...
06:37Why would Mayo talk about it?
06:38I'm not saying Mayo would talk about it.
06:40I'm saying nobody respected Gerard Mayo.
06:42So things were flying off the handlebar every single week.
06:45Loose lips sink ships.
06:46Yeah.
06:46See, Courtney and I...
06:50Isn't the behavior what the coach should be focused on?
06:52Right.
06:53And see, that's a different conversation that Courtney and I, I think, are different on this one.
06:56I think the off-the-field stuff is separate from the stuff that I'm talking about
07:01with players like Tyreek Hill.
07:03Like Tyreek Hill comes in here and he respects Mike Vrabel and that coaching staff.
07:08He's not out there trying to show them up.
07:11Could he have an incident off the field?
07:14Well, yeah, he could, but I don't put that on Vrabel.
07:18Also, what happened, side note, with Dak Prescott and his fiancee over the weekend?
07:24I would kill to have been a fly on the wall of that yacht.
07:29So they were on a joint bachelor and bachelorette party.
07:33Which is a terrible idea to begin with, but yes.
07:35In the Bahamas.
07:36Yes.
07:36And they were going to get married next month.
07:39In April.
07:39And now it ended while they were on the joint bachelor and bachelorette party?
07:44The reports are that there was a prenup that Dak wanted her to sign.
07:48She wanted no part of it.
07:50Things were rocky the weekend, but something blew up on the yacht and they got into it and
07:57called it off completely.
07:58I mean, they share two young daughters together.
08:00Like babies.
08:01So it's got to, it's definitely like, cause I saw the prenup thing.
08:04That's, you know, it's, you get to that point.
08:08She's probably, I don't know.
08:09She might be like, listen, I was with you beforehand or whatever.
08:13We have kids.
08:13We got kids and Dak's like.
08:14Well, just some legal maneuvering.
08:16I mean, nothing to be offended by.
08:18The guy wants a little protection for his money.
08:21Right.
08:21A lot of assets.
08:22But there are a lot.
08:24But Greg, there are a lot of women out there that if you said sign this prenup would feel
08:29a certain way.
08:30I don't know one person who would think that they're going to get married to not only just
08:35a professional athlete, but Dak Prescott.
08:37And there's not going to be some type of prenup.
08:39I mean, just, I'm talking about just in general.
08:41Right.
08:42Like if Santo said, I want you to sign a prenup.
08:44I'd say, okay.
08:45Okay.
08:45So you, you're in the minority.
08:47Does anybody believe that?
08:48I would.
08:49I would say, okay.
08:49You would say no problem.
08:50My dad's a lawyer.
08:51Like I know that I'm not going to get screwed by signing it because my dad's going to look
08:54over and make sure that I'm protected as well.
08:56If you have like a prenup usually protects both parties.
09:01It's to me, I think people hear prenup and think that it's like, oh, they're planning
09:04for divorce.
09:05No, it's just making sure that if something were to happen, which in this day and age,
09:1050% of people end up in divorce, then you're protected.
09:13Yeah.
09:13But it's kind of like, uh, it's putting the kibosh on, uh, the romance of it.
09:18Like, like, yeah, I mean, just from the, I feel like it's more so from the woman's
09:23perspective.
09:24What I don't understand is when like, um, love is blind just, uh, wrapped up the last
09:30season.
09:31And there was a guy on love is blind who was making a big deal about a prenup and then
09:34is getting into a Toyota Camry.
09:36Like that's when I don't understand.
09:37Like I, he was, what does that mean?
09:40He was like on and on about a prenup because of all the money he had.
09:44And then he's getting into a Toyota can't like a beat up Toyota Camry outside of this
09:48house.
09:48And I'm like, this is, this is what ended it.
09:51I think Bill Gates drives like a Subaru.
09:53So he's Bill Gates.
09:54So, I mean, this guy could be loaded.
09:56He might be one of those people.
09:58You got to watch the show.
09:59It's not just the beat up Toyota Camry.
10:00It was like insane watching this guy go on and on about it.
10:05So maybe the little bit of money he has, he wants to keep.
10:07I just feel.
10:08I mean, Drake drives a Jeep Wrangler and he lives at the Seaport.
10:11I feel like a lot of women feel like it's a negative thing.
10:16Do you have the worst car in the Echelon garage?
10:18Oh yeah, by far.
10:19Yeah.
10:19Yeah.
10:20Your Jeep is suited and booted.
10:22I don't know what's suited and booted.
10:24It's a good Jeep.
10:25Yeah, it's a nice Jeep, but suited.
10:26It's not like a G-Wagon.
10:28No.
10:28I mean, these people, their parents buy them G-Wagons and stuff.
10:32I love your bumper sticker, which is the Seaport's only domestic car.
10:37G-Wagon is very nice.
10:39Very nice.
10:39But the Jeep you have is nice.
10:41I like the, what is it?
10:43The Wrangler, right?
10:44Yeah.
10:44Yeah.
10:44Those are fine.
10:45Nowadays, it's like.
10:46Just stops running in the middle of driving sometimes.
10:49It's a red turtle situation.
10:50Nobody, that's what you get for buying a hybrid.
10:52I got to find this guy.
10:53Who's the guy?
10:53I want to look him up.
10:54The Toyota Camry guy.
10:55What's his name?
10:55His name's Devante.
10:57Devante.
10:58But, Wiggy, you think a prenup, like, even bringing it up.
11:01Yep.
11:02Ruins the romance.
11:03Oh, yeah.
11:03Of the, okay.
11:05Because the woman, most of the time, it's the man asking the woman, right?
11:09Most of the time.
11:10Not always.
11:10You're being very sexist.
11:11Well, I mean, I'm not saying all the time, but I'm saying if I had to put the percentage
11:15on it, right, it would mean more 70% men asking for a prenup.
11:21And I think a woman feels like, if you're asking me for this, what are you concerned that, A, I'm
11:29a gold digger, or B, I'm going to take you for your money?
11:32So, what about a woman that has family money or makes a ton of money on her own and then
11:36asks a man for it?
11:38I would feel a certain way.
11:40You would?
11:41Yeah, like, I'm not signing a prenup.
11:44You wouldn't?
11:44No.
11:46But what?
11:47You wouldn't say, holla, holla, we want prenup?
11:49No.
11:50No.
11:50I mean, like.
11:51What about Travis Kelsey?
11:54Is he signing a prenup?
11:55I'm sure.
11:55But it's beneficial to both of them.
11:59Right, but it's going to be more like, if Travis Kelsey, if Taylor Swift goes, oh, Travis, I want you
12:05to sign a prenup.
12:06I'm sure he is.
12:06I'd be like, really?
12:08What?
12:10What?
12:11So, what, you don't think we're going to work out that you need to protect yourself?
12:14See, that's a bad way to look at it.
12:17I'm not saying that it's the right way.
12:21Shyam, did Lauren agree to your prenup?
12:23No, actually, she issued me one.
12:25Yeah, yeah.
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