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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. SEXY. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20and to, uh, Ember and Ice. Um, SEXY. MAGIC. Um, UNIVERSE.
02:38i have no idea what did i say sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that
02:50titillating oh you very publicly shot your shot for night wang uh which was extremely fun to watch
02:57have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the
03:02ones
03:02that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw
03:09like some
03:10fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i i mean you never know
03:16if that's going
03:17to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book style i
03:22was like
03:22i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love dc i love
03:29um i loved all
03:31like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that
03:47i think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you
03:51know i'm
03:52open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something
03:59that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven
04:05so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think
04:12that's what
04:12draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but
04:19yeah
04:21james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and connor
04:27is
04:27more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me
04:34and you
04:34are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i
04:41don't
04:41know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too
04:49sensitive or
04:50outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little
04:55cocky like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know
05:02a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks
05:08but i think i think underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the
05:15heart
05:15and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales
05:21and if true how did that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i
05:27just want to
05:28come see yeah come hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know
05:32why
05:32for a second i was like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver
05:37i was there so yeah i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we
05:43knew we wanted to get
05:43matching tattoos i hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and
05:49yeah i think you came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person
05:55would like them the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were
05:59sold that's the first idea you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo
06:03as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you
06:12ate a pound
06:12of beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was
06:20and after i saw him in person um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he
06:25was taking illicit
06:26substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing
06:33to hide bring it on but he was so just like so i was like what are you eating freak
06:42i was like i'm eating
06:43and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person who
06:55put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks
07:01um
07:02and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:13pumped up pecs and a shut down you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that
07:25we ate
07:25more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of protein
07:30and you need
07:31a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of ground beef
07:37a day
07:37plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because by the end i
07:43got
07:43like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was like
07:4810 pounds heavier and it was because of yeah you yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that
07:53we had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going
07:58back
07:58to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's
08:02really
08:02it's nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a
08:0911 hour day skating
08:10lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he
08:15has a butt
08:16he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what are
08:22you
08:22saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take that
08:32very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel
08:37any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've
08:52visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show the
09:13respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and
09:18see that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not
09:23like people might just hate this people might hate your casting or they might hate my casting
09:28i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i can but you
09:34have really
09:34no metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really think at the end
09:40of the day all
09:40you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for it you
09:47know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break it
10:00down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i like
10:05honestly
10:06i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm gonna tell you in the morning
10:16i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's pretty
10:24dry it's not
10:25like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they just wore
10:28a face mask
10:29i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then come talk to me
10:33because i won't
10:34right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and then sunscreen and
10:42then sometimes
10:42instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you know
10:48to get out
10:48these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser
10:56or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan survey
11:02normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or a poor
11:09shrinking
11:09cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic
11:15acid and then i go to sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well
11:23i will also
11:24say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take it off it just
11:29falls apart
11:30yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes story
11:38yes
11:39do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what
11:43makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where
11:48dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:57i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up realizing
12:15that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of
12:21identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is
12:32really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's
12:37funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i
12:43did
12:43was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i
12:48have bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you
12:56kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:09frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun
13:16to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass
13:20and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people like i know
13:26it's
13:26always a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when
13:32you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is
13:40like true sex
13:41because at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those
13:45like movie
13:45moments where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah
13:50no we i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place
13:56them down
13:57then go we're both chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false
14:05hudson's
14:06roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i
14:14know that you i've yeah remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him
14:2131 times
14:22what was his reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've
14:30talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since
14:34talked
14:35about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her main
14:41reaction was like oh hudson and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i i
14:52developed different techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging
14:58off her walls um but i would go and i would do like a drive-by at all these different
15:02techniques
15:02and then she would bring like other you know romantic interests home and then they're like
15:08what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned
15:13me and they were like would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you fold so i
15:18had one where i
15:18would get pants low like i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone
15:24on the couch and i would run by and jump in the air so i was like a like like
15:31a like a literal moon
15:32a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave
15:37bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify
15:46if you were gonna moon someone yeah a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that
15:51this is okay yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson
16:00as an
16:01asian actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited
16:05for more people to see you in going forward yeah i i want to i want to represent my my
16:14wasians out
16:15there you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince
16:23of wajah me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off
16:30guy for this so uh yeah
16:32i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajah as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as this
16:41um
16:41little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to
16:50do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an actor
16:56and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like
17:00i'm i'm just there and we don't need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm
17:05playing with any other uh non person of color would play as well you know you're a person you
17:13want to be treated i'm a person love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked
17:19with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there
17:23anything about the process that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um
17:30yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things
17:39without that role um the thing that i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating
17:44is it's not just about and this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this
17:50is it's not just about the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that
17:57looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge
18:03where you are like jamie with this you know was also the voice that was reminding us this is how
18:10long
18:11it's been since this happened you know you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i need
18:16to hear
18:16those um i need to hear that feeling through your wings i need to see that come about i need
18:23to feel
18:23that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even though that's what i feel like
18:27is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and that really promotes
18:32that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have
18:41schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brand nope you're gonna try it and
18:46we're
18:47gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this i'll hold it so we don't
18:51we don't
18:52give away anything yeah that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada
19:16dry has got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and
19:23should
19:23be blindfolded you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way
19:36it
19:37says from frisco tex nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number
19:46two
19:47oh that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this
19:55one
19:56um you're my baby drink more this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this a
20:13pissy
20:13pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand that buy yeah this is schweps
20:22this one is schweps
20:29i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give
20:44me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last to me
20:51oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson
21:18what what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full song vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41ginger pear it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in
21:55you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's
22:00nice
22:00i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first
22:06realize you
22:06clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say our first
22:13facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:17ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto um we had so many
22:25like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and similar approaches to how
22:32we
22:32you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and i think that's
22:39saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the fact that there
22:43is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in misskoka
22:53was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great my favorite
23:00memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we just
23:06died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i would
23:12always be
23:12like storm bus if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call
23:20we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there would
23:25be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have like
23:29five people
23:29and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and everyone's
23:36like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like opening it up
23:43to
23:43the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot
23:51believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i think i look a little too shabby
23:58i'm
23:58i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i was when you look you look freaking
24:02fantastic well bring it back to me muchas gracias de nada corazón de melón
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it
24:18people you know i care about my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching
24:25the show is making us work out even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story
24:31and
24:32what was it about the script that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice
24:38you know that's the only tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know
24:44that there
24:44it was a really fun way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's
24:50very
24:50demanding and it's well written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know
24:59fantastical heavy way because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it
25:06seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this
25:14would look
25:15like and it was really rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written really
25:21well uh as someone who you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really
25:28appealing to me um just the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and
25:35point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think
25:40mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind
25:48of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women
25:53you know there are straight women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's
26:00um well that feels like a giant term to be like i know exactly what um you know there's like
26:08the
26:08element of you can live vicariously and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion
26:13that i had never even considered or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which
26:19is
26:19if you are female um and you are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's
26:30a spectatorship to that there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety
26:36you know like especially women um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially
26:41when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived
26:48out without um right female dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that
26:55like when you see like a hetero um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to
27:03sort
27:03of relate with the woman character um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and too and like
27:07imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated
27:14tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind
27:20of relate with this person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into
27:24a box of here this is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're both
27:29men i have no
27:30idea what it's like to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all
27:36tell us i think me
27:38because i would just be i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep
27:46naked but i will say you you're really freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know
27:53how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and leather face freddy krueger
27:59i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning okay snack time
28:07me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than i do um if
28:15something
28:15is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh i become really aware
28:21of how do you do that kind of you left and now now i'm gonna leave connor will do the
28:30like the like
28:32it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then and i can't do his laugh do
28:35i do that do i
28:36do anything do i do a polly pocket hand you know what i accept myself this is what we're rocking
28:45this
28:45we're rocking it i accept myself me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean
28:52i don't eat anything off the ground no not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube
29:01i love the little like video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this
29:08about genghis khan and i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15oh heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it happily ever
29:23after
29:24fuck yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:36people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related they are for me
29:47oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm-hmm threesome
30:00it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you ended line delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that i
30:21feel good um
30:23whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed to like
30:29yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it that's
30:37the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts and
30:45i saw
30:45my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all seeing it yeah i was i was seeing it damn
30:53for real
30:54i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a
31:11true yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things
31:37jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us
31:44to try and explain his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages
31:49it
31:49can sound very sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship
31:56and how they connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know
32:01for the first
32:02years of their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know
32:07that's not usually how sex is used in media yeah yep meteor i need hudson williams to know that so
32:14many people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he
32:22knows and even comments on yeah mara he derived updates pointing this out to me i know when i
32:27learned that about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i
32:33think
32:34that's like i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know
32:40what
32:40you freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant
32:46fictional me knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one
32:54connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story ass of the i don't
33:01like this tweet
33:02it should be ass of the century hey whoa whoa
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