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On the eve of a dream wedding, police find a mother of three dead at home in an apparent home invasion; as alibis fray and egos collide, authorities call in Texas Ranger Jim Holland, who'll use patience and tactics to expose what really happened.
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00:09Police are trying to figure out what led to a woman's
00:12death inside her home.
00:14She's great.
00:15She's very friendly.
00:16Great mom, very involved with her kids.
00:19She was about to get married.
00:21The wedding was like a week away.
00:23It looks like a gunshot went.
00:25That's all I know right now.
00:27For an innocent mother of three
00:28to be killed in such a tragic manner in their own home,
00:31it's terrifying.
00:33Everything about this case rotates around three people.
00:37What would be the motive?
00:38I'm no idea.
00:40He was lying about where he was at.
00:43If you had any suspicions, would you tell us?
00:46I interviewed him five times, but I
00:49couldn't get him over the fence.
00:50If anybody is going to break this case,
00:52it's going to be Ranger Holland.
00:55Let me set you up like a little bitch.
00:56Josh, you got screwed.
01:00Investigators have done just about everything they can do.
01:03But this is your opportunity to make it right.
01:06At the end of the day, someone had to talk.
01:08box, you got dirty.
01:37Hey, James, Jamal with the Rangers, how are you doing?
01:40Yes, sir.
01:42Doing all right?
01:43Sit down, sit down, sit down.
01:49How's I treating you today?
01:53Another day in paradise, eh?
01:57Nothing like paradise.
01:59I'm working a case from Rowlett, a small city outside of Dallas.
02:0429-year-old James Valeta is in jail for unrelated charges.
02:08He's also a person of interest in the murder of Laura Gorilla.
02:12I'm what they call a UCIP ranger, all right?
02:15Unsolved crime investigation team, a super elite group.
02:20To be a UCIP ranger, you got to be really, really good at what you do, okay?
02:23It's like the epitome, it's the top level.
02:25And basically, I report to the governor.
02:32Yeah, yeah.
02:34They'll send all these marshals and sheriffs in there and get to one Texas ranger.
02:38One Wyatt and one ranger, right?
02:41Rowlett PD tells me they have a murder that occurred six months ago.
02:45They have several suspects, but they're not having any luck getting any of them to talk.
02:50The case remains unsolved.
02:52Why am I talking to you?
02:54Why am I sitting here today?
02:55Well, because we got a murder that's gone on sale for six months.
02:59At the end of the day, there's just people that need to be punished.
03:01Can't get away with murder.
03:02Do you know where I'm going with this?
03:14Do you know where I'm going with this?
03:19Do you know where I'm going with this?
03:32I'm going to the kitchen and I saw my baby by the rain on the floor.
03:40Okay, she's not moving?
03:43I'm not moving.
03:44I'm not moving.
03:44I'm not moving.
03:45I'm not moving.
03:46Okay, hold on.
03:47Just a minute.
03:47Let me get you some help going, okay?
03:51When the paramedics arrived, they realized that there was a woman shot on the ground, and
03:56she was not alive.
03:58So immediately, they got out of the home to wait for officers.
04:03There are police!
04:07There are police!
04:12All right, take a point.
04:14They make sure that there's no one in the house, or nobody else is injured.
04:19All right, let's back out.
04:23Ten houses cleared.
04:25Three officers coming out.
04:26Clear?
04:27Yeah.
04:28The neighbors are coming out of the woodwork.
04:30I'm putting out a fire line.
04:32The officers called for investigators, and that's when we showed up to the scene.
04:43It was obvious to us that she had been shot one time in the head.
04:48I don't see any spatter going any other way, though.
04:53The patrolman identifies the victim as Laura Guerrillo.
04:57Based on a Rolette Police Department ID tag that she has.
05:02Laura was a volunteer at the Rolette Police Department.
05:07It didn't make sense.
05:09Laura was 37 years old.
05:12She was a mom of three.
05:15Laura was very well-liked and involved in the community.
05:18Had lots of friends.
05:20Just a great person.
05:22Great mom.
05:23Very involved with her kids.
05:25That's how she spent her days, was caring for the kids.
05:32Laura was about to get married.
05:34The wedding was like a week away.
05:37Her fiance John Macris was from Greece, but he came over to the United States.
05:42They had been together for a few years and decided to finally make it official.
05:49Laura had three children.
05:51Two were from previous relationships.
05:53And then their youngest daughter was with John.
05:57John was previously married before Laura.
05:59You know, lived around the country, but then finally settled and made roots here in Rolette.
06:04He had a business doing home reconstruction.
06:07He and Laura kind of worked together.
06:10She did his books and he did the work.
06:13He was also one of our volunteers here at the police department.
06:17It seemed like anybody that knew Laura really liked her.
06:22For an innocent mother of three to be killed in such a tragic manner in her own home, it's terrifying.
06:34John, come here. Come here. Come here. Come here.
06:37John showed up at the scene about 20 minutes after the 911 call with his daughter because nobody went to
06:47pick his daughter up from school that morning.
06:48I don't know what's going on right now. All I know is there's somebody down inside the house.
06:54It looks like a gunshot wound.
06:56That is all I can tell you. And that's all I know right now.
06:59Who all lives here?
07:04Okay.
07:05Okay.
07:08John initially tells responding officers that Laura's brother, Brian, John's three children, and his mom live in the house.
07:17He fails to mention that his fiancee, Laura, lives in the house.
07:23Laura's brother, Brian, called 911 around noon saying that he had just woken up.
07:30He went to the kitchen. He saw a woman laying on the ground.
07:33He assumed that it was John's mother who was in town for their wedding.
07:38He couldn't even make out who was on the floor.
07:42John, here's what I need, okay?
07:45For us to find out everything that's going on, okay?
07:49We're going to, all right?
07:51Listen to me. I need you to tell me that it's okay for us to go in the house and
07:54search and find out everything.
07:57I'll let you know everything when I find out, okay? Fair enough?
08:02Okay.
08:04Once we were able to enter the scene, we did an initial walkthrough to look and see what we were
08:10dealing with.
08:11The shell casing right here.
08:17We found the single shell casing a few feet away from Laura's body, close to her feet.
08:23It was a .40 caliber.
08:29Okay.
08:29See that? Can you see her forehead?
08:33Yeah.
08:37How Laura was found was disturbing just because you could tell she was shot immediately getting into her house.
08:46We haven't touched anything, not even these shoes.
08:49Okay, cool.
08:51Seeing that her shoes were right by the door, the fact that she was still clutching her purse and her
08:56keys in her hand.
08:58I mean, you could just tell that this was, she was completely taken off guard.
09:02We could not find any forced entry. There was no doors kicked or pushed in or broken, windows broken, nothing
09:09like that.
09:11In the master bedroom, some drawers had been opened. There was a small safe that was there with the door
09:16standing open.
09:17There was no gun. There was no, you know, bloody fingerprints or anything like that.
09:24To our other breaking news in Rowlett, where police are trying to figure out what led to a woman's death
09:29inside her home.
09:30Right now, police only calling it a death investigation and could not go into many details.
09:36It's a developing situation.
09:42We did do some canvassing in the neighborhood, talked to a couple of the neighbors.
09:49I was just, like, shocked.
09:53They lived directly across the street, one house over.
09:56And, uh, whenever my kids would go outside, they'd meet their kids, you know, and they, they grew up with
10:02each other.
10:03Laura loved her kids. She was a great mom.
10:06So, when something like this happened in the neighborhood, it was, it was, it was nerve-wracking, you know?
10:15Her neighbor next door saw her come home that morning, which gave us the last time that we know for
10:21sure somebody saw her alive.
10:23And it was about 8, 10.
10:26Detectives also were able to confirm with the crossing guard that they saw John leaving the house around 745.
10:35One of the main people that the detectives wanted to interview was Laura's brother, Brian.
10:41They wanted to figure out how was it that someone who was there in the home could not hear a
10:46gunshot, especially a few feet away.
10:50So, we brought Laura's brother down here to the police department to interview him.
10:56Turns out her brother suffered from hearing loss.
11:00Detectives were able to find records to show that, in fact, he couldn't hear at all in one of the
11:05ears.
11:05So, if he slipped on his good ear, he wouldn't be able to hear anything.
11:11There was nothing but love between Laura and her brother.
11:15So, we did eliminate him from being a suspect.
11:20Next person is the victim's fiancée, John.
11:33Suspicions are immediately raised.
11:35Because John is actually the last one to leave the house.
11:39And the murder happened shortly after.
11:41I've got a good answer.
11:43Thank you, sir.
11:44How you doing, sir?
11:48My next question is from the block of police.
11:51I'm just out of phone with the police officers and detectives at the scene.
11:55And the voice they're telling me it is going to be Laura.
12:02I'm sorry for your lungs.
12:08I want you to know that we're gonna find out what happened yes sir we're gonna find out the first
12:32response I'm gonna ask you okay it appears that somebody attacked Laura what made the motive
12:44for someone to come in the house it appeared that we were missing $9,000 from the safe the safe
13:09door
13:09it was open but there was no money in there John's theory was that she interrupted a robbery
13:29after John left home that morning he said that he went to a home improvement store in Dallas where
13:34he picked up some materials and ultimately made his way to his job site in Dallas he pulled out a
13:43cell
13:43phone for the detective and started giving time stamps he actually gave us consent to extract the
13:50data on his phone so we did that investigative 101 stuff you know where do you start you start at
13:56the epicenter what's the epicenter John he says he has an alibi maybe the fact that he was gone at
14:04the
14:04time of murder was just a little bit too convenient you have to really look at him and see if
14:10there's
14:10any possibility that he's capable of murder new information from Rowlett where neighbors are in disbelief the death here inside
14:34this
14:34home is now considered a homicide with no signs of a forced entry investigators say either someone
14:40followed Laura into her home or was already inside when she returned home from taking her children to
14:46school many tonight say it just doesn't add up the question is did Laura's fiance John do it John immediately
14:57plays out his alibi and law enforcement goes back to check it John told us which stores he was at
15:08we
15:12actually got a hold of the video we were sifting through massive amounts of video surveillance we
15:21looked for John on video at the home improvement store in Dallas where he told us he was he was
15:30he was precise on his timeline and the video confirmed that so we knew that at that point he didn't
15:47do it
15:47so that made the question even bigger okay if John didn't do this who did
15:55turns out John wasn't alone on video surveillance detectives also see John's two workers James
16:02Valeta and Jesus Trevino they did meet him at the store well over an hour after John arrived
16:15Jesus Trevino had been a convicted felon for aggravated sexual assault of a child
16:22and James Valeta was currently on probation for sexual assault of a child
16:29they both really stood out to us so we wanted to find out where were they in that hour before
16:36when Laura was killed they both said that they had not come to Rowlett on the Friday of the murder
16:52that
16:54they had met up with John
16:57and he told me don't be late
16:59don't be late to
17:01yeah John what are we going to be up at
17:03which one night?
17:05um in Dallas
17:08I'm going to have a door
17:09just started moving doors
17:11and he pulled up and um
17:13beat me in
17:14John
17:15John showed up and everything we started working
17:19let me ask you this I'm going to ask you
17:21all right
17:21okay
17:22Laura lives in her life
17:24if you had any suspicions or if you had any personal knowledge would you tell us?
17:29yeah
17:29because if y'all find out I knew
17:32I'm
17:33James is living in a shady motel in Dallas
17:40so they both claimed that they met up in Dallas and stayed together at James' motel room before they went
17:47to meet up with John
17:49to pick up their job supplies for that day
17:53in these types of situations to verify people's stories and whereabouts we get their cell phone records
18:00at that point we had to wait for the cell phone data we did not have enough reason to keep
18:05them in custody
18:07so after we talked to them we released them
18:11the next day
18:13we did get their cell phone records and
18:17detectives were able to get tower locations from Jesus Trevino's phone
18:22they showed that Trevino's phone traveled from Dallas and went all the way to Rowlett
18:27and then quickly came back to Dallas
18:31at about 7.30 he pinged the tower in Mesquite which is halfway to Rowlett
18:36and about 8.30 he pinged the tower on the north side of Rowlett
18:41and that short time frame of Laura's murder matched precisely when Trevino was in Rowlett
18:49Trevino was lying about where he and James were at
18:52we knew that we were on to the right people
18:54now we just gotta we gotta prove it
18:57in researching social media on Jesus Trevino we were able to obtain a photo of a woman holding a handgun
19:09we were able to identify that gun as a Springfield XD40 as a 40 caliber handgun
19:15the same caliber of round that was used to kill Laura
19:18I mean it's not completely uncommon but not something that we see a lot
19:25the woman in this photo dated Jesus Trevino at the time that Laura was killed
19:31she was able to provide information that helped to finally break the case wide open for us
19:40when we went to talk to her she explains that Jesus told her several months prior
19:46to Laura's death that he had been paid or was going to be paid by his boss to kill his
19:52box's wife
19:55she thought enough about that information to make a local police report
20:01we knew who had committed the murder
20:04but we didn't have enough probable cause to take him to custody
20:10Laura's fiance John has an alibi that checks out
20:14we know that he didn't pull the trigger
20:16but we have a story about him asking Jesus Trevino to kill his wife
20:21if what we're hearing from Jesus' ex-girlfriend is correct
20:24then it looks like he is going to be behind pulling the trigger
20:27which leaves James as the driver
20:30and obviously it makes no sense that anyone other than John ordered this hit
20:38we interviewed John multiple times
20:41he's not going to open his mouth and say anything
20:44because he's the farthest one from what actually happened
20:48between John's two employees
20:50the type of personality and their backgrounds
20:52the way they portrayed themselves in the interview
20:56we thought that James was going to be the weaker of the two
21:00so we decided to put more pressure on James
21:07we went to James' motel in Dallas
21:10since we're here
21:11I was going to see if it's okay if we search the room
21:15cool
21:17he signed a consent form
21:21and we searched
21:24I saw a backpack under the bed
21:27and so I reached down there under the bed
21:29and I pulled that black backpack out
21:31when I pulled that backpack out
21:34he turned his head and he stared at it
21:36he had like a startled look on his face
21:40and he stared at the backpack
21:41and he said that's not mine
21:43that's Jesus'
21:45and I unzipped it
21:48and inside was latex gloves
21:50and two burner phones
21:53we're investigating a murder
21:54why do you have this backpack
21:56with this type of things in it
21:59stashed under your bed
22:06during our search of James' motel room
22:09the detectives did find a small amount of marijuana
22:11and we did ultimately make the decision
22:14to charge James with possession
22:17so we've got James in custody
22:19but we couldn't get him to understand the position
22:22that he was in
22:23and try to save himself
22:25he still continued to stick to his story
22:28which is I don't know anything about what happened to Laura
22:32I interviewed him five times
22:34but I couldn't get him over the fence
22:38at this point Jesus Trevino is a person of interest
22:42but he had just up and disappeared
22:46no one knew where Trevino was
22:49so detectives do put his information out on the news
22:53Laura Grillo was found shot to death inside her home
22:56Tuesday, Rowlett police announced a person of interest
23:0030 year old Jesus Trevino
23:03if someone could provide us with information
23:06that will help us in locating him
23:08John also went ahead and gave an interview
23:12here in the parking lot of our police station
23:14why somebody will do something like that to her
23:16I mean I'm not talking about Jesus
23:18I'm talking about in general why
23:21and I mean now a name comes up
23:23it's somebody that I know
23:27it's like the why now is even bigger
23:30why is John actually saying this to the news media?
23:33is he really surprised?
23:36or is he protecting himself?
23:46four months after the murder of Laura Grillo
23:49our prime suspect Jesus Trevino is on the run
23:52but then law enforcement gets a tip from his ex-girlfriend
23:56she was contacting him through social media
23:59and was able to give his location
24:01and the US Marshals were able to apprehend Trevino
24:05and he is brought back to Texas
24:14our other suspect James Veleda
24:17is in custody as well on a drug charge
24:21and had been interviewed by these detectives multiple times
24:25and they aren't getting anywhere with him
24:33so Ranger Jim Holland is brought in to be the closer for this case
24:40Ranger Holland has a natural connection with people
24:43so if anybody's going to break this case wide open
24:46it's going to be him
24:49everything about this case rotates around three people
24:54and the whole thing was about who's going to break
24:59Ranger Holland said James is going to give it up
25:02and that's exactly what we thought from the beginning too
25:05is James is the weak link in this whole situation
25:07and who we were hoping would be the one to confess first
25:23I know he's been interviewed four or five times
25:27and James strikes me as this person who's not a brain surgeon
25:33and so I basically had to represent these things in a more straightforward manner
25:40and make sure that he understood what I was talking about
25:51well I'm going to be honest with you
25:52I'm not real good at blowing smoke
25:55I just kind of throw stuff out there
25:56and probably the most important decisions
25:59that you're ever going to make in your life
26:00you're going to make today
26:03I know it's hard
26:04but it's got to be the truth
26:05because you know Jesus already talked
26:09as I worked into the interview with him
26:11I embellished that Jesus Trevino
26:13was obviously talking
26:15and was obviously looking for a deal
26:17and was obviously throwing information out there
26:20that would implicate James in the crime
26:25what do you think of Jesus?
26:26do you think he's a good person?
26:27do you think he's a bad person?
26:28I thought he was pretty good
26:29I mean I did notice looking at it over and over again
26:33that he was a friend but he was kind of distant
26:37as I'm talking to Valeta
26:40I guess I'm trying to weigh how tight they are as friends
26:43does he like this guy?
26:46is he going to lie for this guy?
26:48and how far will he go?
26:50well this is the difference between a good person and a bad person
26:53good people say that they're sorry for the mistakes that they made
26:58they make amends
26:59and they pray
27:00and they go down the road
27:02a bad person
27:04he makes a mistake
27:05he just keeps walking
27:06he just keeps walking down the road
27:08because he's a bad person
27:12your boy Jesus
27:13you think he's a brain surgeon
27:15or you think he's a dumbass?
27:18he's a dumbass
27:19he is
27:20he is
27:21I'm going to show you some pictures
27:25you know this young lady?
27:32no
27:33no clue
27:38guess who she dated?
27:40yes
27:41yes
27:42guess what Jesus told her over a year before the murder
27:46Jesus tells her a year before the murder that he's fixing to come into a bunch of money
27:50because he's fixing to kill his boss's wife
27:55get this shit
27:57she's so freaked out by it
27:58guess what she does?
28:01calls Dallas police department and reports it over a year before the murder
28:05gives Jesus his name
28:07says I don't know the boss's name but I know that he says he's getting paid to kill her
28:12do you think Jesus is a brain surgeon?
28:15tell me he's not the dumbest son of a bitch you ever heard of in your entire life
28:20my thought process was to lay the entire thing out there this insurmountable hurdle
28:25something that he couldn't avoid
28:27the question is will he finally break?
28:32you know where I'm going with this?
28:44when Laura Gorilla was murdered I mean we had an innocent mother of three being gunned down in her own
28:51home
28:51the Rowlett police detectives on this case really took the time and used every resource possible to get as much
29:00justice for Laura and her family as possible
29:03they've repeated interview after interview
29:05they've gone through phones they've gone through towers
29:08they have a really really solid circumstantial case
29:14but this thing wasn't going to come together unless one of these people broke down and provided information against the
29:20other two
29:31does that gun look familiar to you?
29:36you ever seen your boy with a gun?
29:38no
29:39never? never in his backpack?
29:44the latest interview lasted several hours
29:46I felt like the longer I kept him in there
29:49the better opportunity I had to actually get him to communicate with me
29:57what do you know about that?
29:59it belongs to Jesus and he was in my motel room
30:03okay
30:03and why was it in your motel room?
30:05because we cleaned out the trunk of his car
30:08it was apparent that he wasn't going to provide information against Trevino
30:12the question was why?
30:14is he protecting him?
30:16are they friends?
30:17is he afraid of them?
30:19there's a reason that he reached out to you three weeks ago when he got you a job
30:23because he couldn't get anyone else to drive him
30:25and he set you up like a little bitch
30:28you got screwed
30:29but this is your opportunity to make it right
30:36did you know why you were driving him there?
30:40Beleda would basically laugh
30:42when presented with a very uncomfortable question
30:46he would laugh right before he responded
30:49or lied
30:52you think?
30:55I don't think
30:59it's your decision
31:00this is probably the most important moment of your life
31:05let me help you through this
31:10hypothetically
31:11when does he first approach you?
31:15you're my friend right?
31:17I'm trying to be your friend
31:19it's a self-serving world my friend
31:21you know that and I know that
31:23but today I can be the best friend in the world
31:25and you need a good friend
31:31I really felt like he was going to provide information
31:35I think the real question was
31:37how truthful was it going to be
31:39and how long was it going to take?
31:43whatever the case
31:44I'm not going anywhere until I get to the truth
31:49I'm here to be your friend
31:50I'm here to be your friend
31:51right now
31:51alright?
31:52you want me as your friend
31:58alright when um
32:02as soon as
32:03first mentioned anything about
32:04this
32:05I disregarded it
32:07I thought he was just
32:08perfect enough
32:14he shows up in the morning
32:17we get in the car and we go
32:26the whole time
32:29I'm like
32:30I'm still thinking he's bullshit
32:32even when
32:35he gets there
32:37he does his thing
32:40I heard nothing
32:49and when he gets back in the car
32:51what does he say to you?
32:54let's go
32:55did he give you any details?
32:56did he talk about it at all?
32:57say it's done or
32:59she cried or begged for her life
33:01or was he joking about it?
33:03was he bragging or was he freaked out?
33:06he didn't say nothing
33:06just let's go
33:07okay
33:08okay
33:08later on
33:11that's when he starts talking
33:12mmhmm
33:14I scared her
33:16she actually tried to run
33:21and
33:23that's when I said yeah
33:24he shot her
33:25did you say how he did it or
33:27he just shot her
33:29right in the head
33:31mmhmm
33:33I think he just felt like
33:35if he could present himself
33:36as being on a different side
33:38than Trevino
33:40then he was in a better place
33:43but this isn't over
33:45he's given up the trigger man
33:47but I need him to give up the mastermind
33:50John
34:11what happened to John?
34:13was John asking for details?
34:15did he want all the gory details?
34:16did he want all the gory details of how
34:17Jesus did it? or did she say anything? or I mean what was he saying? what was he asking?
34:22just everybody keep quiet
34:23shut up
34:25but it's pretty obvious that John ordered it
34:28yeah
34:29it took hours to get him to start moving in the right direction
34:36and he confesses because at the end of the day
34:39it's his only play
34:41it's really the only thing he can do
34:43did he ever say how much John paid him for it?
34:48he was um
34:50costing about
34:52something about 15 grand
34:54what did he pay you?
34:57no
34:58you gotta be honest
34:58no
34:59he saved one game
35:00a grand
35:03mmhmm
35:04after he comes out of the house
35:07tell me for sure what he does with the gun
35:09he takes it apart
35:10it's in a black bag
35:11he pulls it to the gas station
35:12he's like here
35:14throw it in the dumpster
35:17and then
35:17I threw it in the dumpster
35:19I don't know this tree
35:20but I can take you that way
35:26after James confessed to Ranger Holland
35:29he took detectives on that ride along
35:33he said that after the murder
35:34as they were driving back to Dallas
35:37he just was throwing out pieces of his clothing out of the window
35:43sure enough
35:44seven months after the murder
35:46there were still pieces of a black hoodie
35:48as well as shoes
35:49found exactly where he said that it would be
35:52we couldn't find a gun
35:55but James' confession
35:57and confirmation of how the murder took place
35:59who ordered it
36:00who got paid
36:01this is
36:03major
36:05I felt like if we could put information that Valeta turned
36:09that John
36:09would have
36:11little choice but to kind of roll in that direction
36:15unfortunately
36:17unbeknownst to me
36:19Rowlett and the Rangers get kind of excited
36:22and they jump the gun
36:24and they immediately go out and arrest John
36:28my original plan was to talk to him before cuffs were put on
36:32but now that he's been arrested
36:34the possibility of him talking is nil to none
36:44how are you doing today
36:47Jim home Texas Rangers
36:48I've got a bunch of things to kind of explain to you
36:50I'm guessing you probably have about 50,000 questions right now
36:53wondering what's going on
36:55John's a pretty intelligent person
36:58does he have a lot of psychopathic tendencies
37:00yeah I think so
37:03we believe he planned this meticulously
37:06from leaving the empty safe open at the crime scene
37:09so it looked like a robbery
37:11to coordinating with his two employees to get them there at the exact right time
37:16let me cut to the chase a little bit
37:19Jesus is a dumbass
37:20alright?
37:22sometimes he is
37:23no he really is a dumbass
37:25okay?
37:26at the end of the day
37:27you shouldn't hire a dumbass to do a job
37:29because he's going to screw it up
37:31alright?
37:31and if he doesn't screw it up he's going to talk about it
37:34and that's what happens with him
37:36he screwed you over
37:37you go to hire this dumbass
37:39and he tells people that you want him to kill your wife
37:44I didn't hire the dumbass, that's my problem
37:47do what?
37:47I did not hire the dumbass
37:49come on
37:49I did not pay him any money
37:51that's, that's my problem
37:52I already know that you hired him
37:54I know that he drove
37:55I know that he's an idiot
37:57I know that he pulled the trigger
37:58okay?
37:59I already know those things
38:01it's not a question
38:02alright?
38:02I'm not asking you questions
38:03did you do that?
38:05I already know the answer to that
38:14I need to talk to his attorney
38:16at the end of the day
38:21yes, I was disappointed
38:24when I left the room without a confession
38:28but
38:29the most damning thing to him
38:31was the fact that the jury
38:33never saw him
38:34being remorseful
38:35about what happened to his fiancee, Laura
38:40after James and John
38:42I talked to Jesus
38:45he just wants to meet with his attorney first
38:48Jesus doesn't confess
38:52but what James Veleda provided
38:55was 100% corroborated
38:59we had sent out search warrants
39:01for John's email records
39:05so at this point
39:06we finally got the content
39:08of those accounts
39:10in those records
39:11an email came out
39:13from Laura
39:14to John
39:15saying that
39:16their relationship
39:17wasn't getting better
39:18they weren't progressing
39:20as she wanted them to
39:21and that
39:22she was looking at
39:23leaving Texas
39:24and taking
39:25John's child
39:27John had been through
39:28this situation before
39:29he had
39:30had an ex-wife
39:31move out of state
39:32take the kids
39:32facing this again
39:34he didn't want to leave Laura
39:36he just wanted her out of the way
39:40and so
39:41he planned it
39:45I think if Jim Holland
39:46hadn't joined the investigation
39:49we would not have had a strong of a case
39:51on John
39:52because having an actual party
39:55to say
39:55John
39:57said this
39:58these were the words
39:59that came out of John's mouth
40:00all those details
40:02made this such
40:03an airtight case
40:28this is the epitome of a senseless crime
40:31you have you know by all accounts this wonderful
40:34loving
40:35woman
40:36adored by neighbors
40:38and the community
40:39there's three kids
40:40that
40:41they're gonna grow up without a mom
40:43there's a mother
40:44that lost her daughter
40:47there's a brother
40:48that lost
40:50the sister that loved him
40:51and took care of him
40:53does putting three people in jail
40:55deliver justice
40:59you know I guess it's as close as we can get
41:13one of the worst experiences I've ever been through
41:15I was supposed to go pick her up
41:17then she never showed up
41:18Dave's obviously had a problem with women
41:21I've heard some real weird shit
41:22but this is one of the oddest that I've ever heard
41:26November 5th
41:27do you remember that day?
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