00:00Dan Graziano said what Steve Bishotti said on a press conference about a month ago now,
00:05that the Ravens can do some things with Lamar Jackson's contract, although those aren't ideal.
00:12But that's a very, very, that's a credit card mentality.
00:16You may push it back, but you're going to have to pay eventually.
00:20Lamar needs to get an extension done with this team.
00:22The team needs to get an extension done with Lamar.
00:24Whatever the holdup is, we need to get past this and get this thing done.
00:27And basically, here's what he said.
00:28The Ravens have automatic conversion rights in the contract, meaning they can add more void years,
00:33convert salary to signing bonuses, and knock down this year's cap number by as much as $38 million.
00:38And they don't need Jackson's permission to do it.
00:41Jackson's contract already has void years for 28 and 29.
00:44Though, and Baltimore would prefer to do an extension and avoid dumping more cap charges in the future years
00:49where you get to the credit card mentality for which he hasn't signed.
00:52Jackson still doesn't use an agent.
00:54And that has led to some complications in these kind of talks between him and the team in the past.
00:58So it's hard to handicap the Ravens' chances of getting it done.
01:01I think they get it done, but again, it's...
01:04You've got less than a week.
01:05It was just over a week, rather.
01:07Yeah.
01:08You think they get it done in that time, man?
01:10I mean, if they don't, I think they go this route, and this isn't what they want to do.
01:13That's not what I want them to do.
01:15Not at all.
01:15Because if you're trying to win this year, you've got to get that number down.
01:18Yeah.
01:18Like, think about all the things it allows you to do if you get the number down for this year.
01:22This will be...
01:23There are a lot of things that I've defended Lamar on.
01:28This is one I wouldn't be able to.
01:30Well, because everything's set up.
01:31If you want to win, you're going to get your money either way.
01:37Why won't you do this?
01:38Like, do you think there's any chance that the Ravens are absolutely low-balling him here
01:43from what he thinks he's worth?
01:44Can't low-ball him.
01:45I don't think, like, again, the number has to be somewhere in that market, even if he wants more.
01:49Like, that's the thing.
01:50I don't think they're low-balling him.
01:51He may have an idea of what he wants, or this just might come down to semantics and getting it
01:56done.
01:56Maybe he's waiting to the last, you know, before the clock hits midnight,
02:00and that's when he presses against them to say, hey, this is what I want to do.
02:03But they feel like they have a good enough relationship,
02:06and Eric DaCosta said it through the media.
02:08How in the world can you low-ball Lamar Jackson?
02:10You can't low-ball Lamar Jackson.
02:12I mean, you know what he's...
02:12Number one, I don't think the Ravens are.
02:14I don't think they would, but you can't low-ball him.
02:16Yeah, I mean, you're going to go look.
02:17Josh Allen took less money.
02:20Did you hear what he said?
02:21Look, and this isn't me praising Josh Allen and even saying this is something Lamar should do.
02:25He was like, what's the difference of $5 million?
02:27I'll tell you.
02:28It's $5 million.
02:29If my math's correct, that's what Josh Allen was saying when he took a little bit less money
02:33to stay in Buffalo with his extension.
02:36And I don't know that anybody owes any team a hometown discount,
02:39but if you were trying to win, signing an extension right now makes the most sense
02:44unless you don't want to be here.
02:47I don't think that's the case either.
02:48I don't either.
02:49And again, I'm not saying that's where it's at,
02:51but if we get to the point that Lamar does not sign an extension
02:55and the Ravens have to do something like Graziano's pointing out,
02:58do you think we've got to the point where Lamar's kind of letting you know,
03:00hey, I don't want to be here?
03:02Yeah.
03:02Because he holds all the cards.
03:04That's exactly what it is.
03:05I mean, that's why I'm saying this will be the one thing that I could not defend.
03:09Now, there are lots of reasons that if I'm Lamar Jackson that,
03:13I mean, there's some reasons I wouldn't want to be here.
03:16Number one would be the fan base.
03:19All right, get somebody else to do it.
03:20You don't like how I do it?
03:23Get somebody else to do it.
03:24I think for the group of people that don't like him and will never like him,
03:28I think there's some people that offset that with he can never do any wrong.
03:34And look, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
03:36Like, he's fallible.
03:38He's made mistakes.
03:39We can talk about the postseason and talk about other things.
03:41But make no mistake about it, I think he's the best player in football.
03:44You know, I didn't know this one dude, Joe, that I see five days a week
03:51that's close to the side that Lamar could do no wrong.
03:55He's close to it.
03:56Not quite there, but he's close to it.
03:58That's got to be me then.
03:59That's exactly you.
04:01100% you.
04:02No, no.
04:03I'll criticize him.
04:05But he's the best player in the league, man.
04:07He's the best player in the league that's not a wide receiver.
04:11Let me stay on brand for a second.
04:13I mean, I've never, look, again, you know how, I don't need to say this.
04:16If people have listened to me long enough, you know how I feel about Peyton Manning.
04:19Like, this cat does things on the football field that I've never seen anybody do.
04:23You've done with Lamar.
04:24No, Peyton.
04:25No, Lamar, yeah.
04:27I've seen guys shot put in the final year of their career from their ear.
04:31No, but again, like, it's the only thing left for him to do is win the whole effing thing.
04:35That's it.
04:36Like, people talk about if he stopped playing today, he has an amazing case as a Hall of Famer
04:42for just this short period of time he's played.
04:45He changed the game.
04:46He changed the game because you can say Michael Vick did.
04:50No, Michael Vick wasn't a premier passer ever.
04:54Lamar Jackson is a premier.
04:56Lamar Jackson is the epitome of, you know, that line I love from I'm going to get you sucker.
05:03The window of the stairs.
05:05What do you want?
05:06The window of the stairs, man.
05:07I mean, I'll beat you running, I'll beat you throwing, but I'm going to beat you.
05:10I don't think I was, was I doing nights or were we here when, no, I would have been doing
05:15nights
05:15and then also working with Garceau at that point where we were talking about Lamar.
05:20And it's like once you, after year one and you got through saying, this is for me, going,
05:25you can't run that option offense and expect to win consistently in this league.
05:29Remember when the Wildcat took over and people were having fun with it?
05:31And then all of a sudden, three years later, you're like, ain't nobody run that no more.
05:34No.
05:34Because they, again, they figured it out.
05:37This is so difficult because he's so dynamic.
05:39But once we got into that second season and he starts off with Miami and he drops a 50 burger
05:44on him and I went, oh no, have you learned how to putt?
05:49What do you want him to do?
05:50You want him to stay in the pocket and throw, which everybody says, good luck.
05:54And he had the, what, didn't he lead the league in quarterback efficiency in the pocket that year?
05:58He, first off, he led the league in touchdown passes from the pocket.
06:02To be fair, that year, Patrick Mahomes did get hurt.
06:05Okay, so he would have been second?
06:07Again, that's the point that people try to bring up.
06:10I'm just trying to throw all the other nonsense out.
06:11This stuff happens.
06:12And then when it came down to it and you're watching him play,
06:15like up until this past season where he had a hiccup and he wasn't playing well,
06:20he was the all-time leader, the all-time leader in QBR and NFL history for the running back.
06:28Come on, guys.
06:29What are we doing?
06:31As I said, Joe, there's this one guy that's been five days a week with as close to the
06:37he can do no wrong status.
06:38I'll criticize him when he deserves it.
06:40Never.
06:41I'll just let you know when he deserves it.
06:43Manny in Essex.
06:44What's up, Manny?
06:45Hey, good morning, gentlemen.
06:46Jeremy, you always defend Lamar Jackson.
06:48Even if he does it wrong, he's not good.
06:50You defend him all the time.
06:51Listen, if Lamar and Lamar are not good.
06:52When did he do wrong, they're not good, and I defended him?
06:55Listen to me, I love Lamar like you do.
06:57But there's a one-nothing here for me.
06:59Hey, listen, if Lamar Jackson doesn't want to stay here, trade him Arizona, which we
07:03have to pay him one time a year, get three first-round picks for him, and we build a
07:07team around a guy that wants to be.
07:08We keep saying trade Lamar Jackson.
07:11Lamar Jackson has a no-trade clause.
07:14He determines where he goes.
07:16So us talking about where to trade him is irrelevant.
07:19That's going to be up to Lamar.
07:21We don't control.
07:21The Ravens don't control where he goes.
07:23I just want to let you know, Pat Ricard doesn't have a Super Bowl either.
07:27Listen, I'd rather try to grab Pat Ricard than Lamar right now, because Lamar has won
07:30nothing here for me.
07:31Neither has Pat.
07:32What do you mean?
07:34Lamar's won two MVPs.
07:36He's been the number one seed in the AFC going into the postseason.
07:40I get it.
07:40He hasn't won the Super Bowl yet.
07:41There's a lot of guys in this league that haven't won the Super Bowl yet.
07:44You want to take Pat Mahomes, Sam Darnold's goofy ass out of it?
07:47And who else?
07:49Like, who else have we had in recent years?
07:51Matthew Stafford.
07:52Matthew Stafford.
07:53Jalen Hurts.
07:54There's a small group of guys that's won in this league that's out there right now.
07:59So, again, I love when people trade him for three first-round picks.
08:04Yeah, and you still ain't getting fair value.
08:06That's stupid.
08:07That's just, Manny, I like you.
08:08That's just dumb.
08:09That's dumb, man.
08:11Why the mother?
08:16Trade him.
08:17And the best part is, like you even said, it's like, I don't even know why we're talking about this
08:20because you can't unless he wants to be traded.
08:22He holds all the cards.
08:24No trade clause.
08:26Can't franchise him.
08:27Can't do nothing.
08:29What do you want to do?
08:30What do you want to do?
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