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00:00He'll hopefully be back tomorrow.
00:01I am the Bulldog.
00:02Joining me now on the Western Hotline is our buddy Joe Yurden from Bleacher Report
00:07covering the Sabres and the NHL at large.
00:11Buddy, what the hell, man?
00:13It's been a while.
00:13How's it going?
00:15It's going good.
00:16I was watching Sabres-Panthers, obviously, and heard that cackerel in the background.
00:22And every time I hear it, I just think of you and that bump coming on the air.
00:27And I just laugh every time because your imitation is the one that just absolutely kills me.
00:32Way to butter me up.
00:34I'm begging for accolades, and Joe's right here ready to dole them out.
00:41Yeah, man.
00:42It's a good time, right?
00:45I mean, it's a good time to be a hockey writer.
00:47It's a good time to be a hockey fan.
00:49I want to ask you, Joe, because it's been – I know we talked last year,
00:53but I don't think we've talked at all this season.
00:55If we have, maybe I was out.
00:57When we did, certainly hasn't been since they've been rolling like they've been rolling
01:01and looking like the wagon that they've become.
01:04What do you think changed for them?
01:05I just asked Paul this question.
01:07I don't think I'd asked him all these months as the Sabres have put up this great record.
01:11What flipped the switch for them?
01:13Because it's impossible not to connect the dots of Kevin Adams' removal
01:17with this team getting blowtorch hot like they did when they did.
01:22Do you think it's as simple as that?
01:24Because, you know, there's not an analytic that I can point to that tells you his removal changed everything,
01:30but the timing is, you know, pretty evident.
01:34Yeah, the narrative that gets built out of this season is certainly going to point to that moment as the
01:41turning point.
01:41But it's still always funny to me to think that he got canned after he started winning games.
01:48You know, they're already three games deep into that 10-game win streak when they fired him.
01:54Although, I think during that six-game road trip out to Western Canada,
01:58after they lost that game to Calgary,
02:00I think everybody, I mean everybody, we all figured it,
02:04and I think everybody on the team and the front office all figured,
02:08somebody's getting canned here, and it's probably going to be Kevin Adams.
02:12And I don't know if that loss was just like the trigger point for everything.
02:17And at this point, you probably have to point at it and say, yeah, it was.
02:22But that was such a bad loss because it was a poorly played game by both teams,
02:26and it was an eminently winnable one for Buffalo.
02:30And it's just, you know, they lose the first two games of that trip,
02:32and you're just like, oh, boy, here we go.
02:35Like, that was a trip that when they headed out west, I was like,
02:38they probably need eight points to stay alive out of those six games.
02:43And they start 0-3, and you're like, boy, six points, you better get six.
02:49Right.
02:50And then, you know, you start compromising with yourself thinking about it.
02:53It's like, well, if they come home with four, I don't know, maybe.
02:56Well, Kevin's probably gone, and then, I don't know, maybe a coach,
03:00or maybe, I don't know, if Lindy goes.
03:01Like, you're just going through your mind of like, well,
03:05what's next for this franchise?
03:07Like, what new disaster awaits us when they get back?
03:11And, you know, they win three in a row, and you're like, all right,
03:13well, they saved face, sort of.
03:15Yeah.
03:15And then Kevin's fired, and you're like, okay.
03:17And then they had that, I think it was a game against Philly.
03:20Here was the fourth game, and that was on TNT.
03:24And everybody on that, you know, and I say this with full admission,
03:28I work, you know, adjacent to, you know, the guys on TNT.
03:33Everybody there seemed ready to bury the Sabres,
03:36and instead the Sabres came out and played a really good game
03:39and played really hard, and it was like, oh, all right,
03:42maybe they got something cooking here.
03:43It's four in a row.
03:44Let's see what happens.
03:45And then they just, it just hasn't stopped ever since.
03:50And, you know, whether it's Kevin getting canned
03:53or everybody realizing Kevin getting canned was going to be it
03:56or that Calgary loss, and mind you, they got swept by the Flames,
04:00who are a lottery team.
04:01Like, they're going to have a top five pick.
04:04Getting swept by them and in ugly fashion on both ends of that
04:07might have been the moment where all the leaders come together
04:10and go like, boys, if we don't figure this out
04:13and if we don't start holding each other's feet to the fire,
04:15we're all going, this is done.
04:17This whole thing's done, and who knows where we go after this.
04:20You know, Joe, Lindy's part in that.
04:23Somebody called me earlier today already asking about his future,
04:27and it reminds you that there was, you know,
04:30along with the scuttlebutt about Adams, you know,
04:33that hit around the point in that trip when it turned around.
04:36They won on a Tuesday night, I think, in Edmonton to start the streak.
04:41There was a lot of chatter, I'm sure you heard it too,
04:44that the coaching staff, there might be Lindy bumping upstairs
04:48or just something, and haven't really thought about that
04:52because, you know, the results have been so good
04:54and the conversation has shifted to, you know, trade deadline additions
04:59and playoff matchups and all kinds of different things
05:03that have been really foreign subjects for us in Sabreland
05:06for, you know, 10, 15 years now.
05:09What do you think about Lindy?
05:11This caller was asking me, like, do you think he wants to keep going?
05:14Like, will they extend him once this year is over?
05:16And I'm like, I think if he wants to, they will,
05:19but I don't know if a part of him going upstairs
05:22wasn't maybe what he wanted at this stage of his life.
05:25You know, thinking back to that point, which, yeah,
05:29the coaching scuttlebutt thing was all kind of,
05:33that was maybe the wildest part of that bad start to that trip
05:37because, you know, John Tortorella's name's getting thrown around,
05:41you know, Lindy's got to go upstairs,
05:43Kevin's got to get a different job, you know,
05:46like all this other stuff that was being said,
05:48and it was just like, man, that is too much craziness.
05:51That is just too much nonsense to throw out at once when,
05:54I mean, granted, things were in a really bad spot at that point,
05:58and, you know, that kind of a drastic change would make sense
06:02given that, like, you're trying to save face,
06:04you're trying to get people to buy tickets,
06:06trying to win games, and, you know, I think with Lindy now,
06:11and, you know, I'd asked him today because he was talking about how,
06:16like, you know, they were working, you know,
06:17they spent part of practice today working on, you know,
06:20doing, like, little things of, you know, in the neutral zone work
06:23and, like, the kind of stuff that, like, real hardcore,
06:26like, hockey coaching nerds loved seeing,
06:30and I'm not a hockey coaching nerd,
06:32but I am a humongous hockey nerd,
06:34and watching them work on these little things in the neutral zone
06:38and Lindy just, like, you know, yelling,
06:41like yelling but not, like, yelling at them,
06:43but, like, let's do it again, do better, let's do this, start over,
06:47like, doing all this stuff, I'm like, oh, man,
06:49he is in his element now.
06:52Like, this is the stuff he wants to be doing.
06:53When it's constant, like, all right, let's run these lines
06:57and see if these guys work, let's, you know, let's do this,
07:00let's work on, you know, dump-ins, let's work on lines,
07:02you know, all the basic stuff that they've had to, like,
07:05kind of figure out how to do the last, I don't know,
07:0911 years, 12 years, how to do these things over and over again,
07:13now you're doing, like, the minutiae stuff,
07:16and Lindy said, boy, I love doing this stuff now.
07:20Like, this is way better than, like, everything else.
07:22Like, when a guy like Lindy, who's, you know,
07:25his whole life's been coaching at this point, well, you know,
07:28half of his hockey life has been coaching,
07:29and he's, like, getting to dig in and, like, work on, like, gap control
07:34and, you know, making sure the forwards are on top of, like,
07:37on top of their guy in the neutral zone to cut him off
07:40and steal the puck, go the other way.
07:42This kind of stuff is, like, makes me say, like, boy, I don't,
07:45this isn't a guy that wants to, like, do anything else but coach.
07:48And, you know, you see that kind of thing.
07:51Like, you see the fire back in his eyes a bit.
07:53He's not the same, you know, like, you know, hot, you know,
07:56hot under the collar Lindy that he was back in the day,
07:59you know, before I even got here, which is, you know,
08:01still ancient history.
08:03But he's still a guy that just loves doing this.
08:07And now the team is winning, and they're doing it the way he wants them to do it,
08:11and they're listening to him, and they're having success.
08:15Yes, it's the perfect storm for Lindy to be like, you know what?
08:18Maybe I can still do this.
08:19I mean, yeah, he's 65 years old, but, like, I don't know,
08:22if the guys are playing hard for him and they're listening to him
08:25and they're doing what he wants them to do, it's why mess with it?
08:29Like, that's kind of like the whole approach right now with the deadline.
08:31Why mess with anything that they're doing right now?
08:33You know, there's no reason to kind of upset the apple cart.
08:36We will get to that.
08:37Joe Yurden, long time on the Sabres and NHL Beat,
08:40currently with Bleacher Report, is my guest here
08:43on the West Her Hotline.
08:45You know, I talked to Paul already earlier today, Joe,
08:49and he mentioned that Lindy talked about how the players are taking some ownership
08:53and just, you know, they're policing one another in a way that sort of,
08:59it speaks to what you're saying about Lindy,
09:01maybe peak enjoyment of the job right now is not having to, like,
09:06for lack of a better way to put it, be as much of a babysitter
09:08as it is working on these little details, which I love, love hearing.
09:14I feel like this year's Sabres team, because of the way they were constructed,
09:18who constructed them, Kevin Adams, the roster did not change,
09:23but the results did really speaks to, you know,
09:27talent without effort isn't really going to get you anywhere
09:30because everything that they're about now,
09:32the forecheck being as dangerous as it is
09:35and them being as tight often enough, anyway, to my eyes,
09:40defensively, is all about maxing out effort.
09:43Oh, yeah.
09:44No, it's 100% that.
09:47And it's, you know, the thing that was always said about the Sabres,
09:51I mean, this is going back, you know, a few years now,
09:53going back to, you know, when they finished a point out of the playoffs
09:56and that team, you know, you think back to that team
09:59and you're like, man, they almost made it.
10:00And it's like, yeah, they probably would have got their teeth kicked in
10:02by Boston in the first round, given how hot and cold they were that whole season.
10:06But, like, even that team wasn't doing a lot of the, you know,
10:10wasn't sticking in details.
10:11Granted, different coach.
10:13You know, that's Don Granato's team.
10:14But, like, you know, the way that they're doing this with Lindy
10:18is that Lindy's been, you know, Lindy's been classic Lindy.
10:21Like, he's been hard on them from the start.
10:24And, you know, he said, I remember some of the stuff he was saying last year
10:28where, you know, where guys would make mistakes in games.
10:31And he was just kind of, like, kind of pulling back a little bit
10:33because he's like, I've got to get to know these guys
10:35before I really lay into them and, you know, get under them and say,
10:39hey, listen, if you're not going to carry your weight, you're not playing.
10:42You're not going to play minutes and you're not going to be in games.
10:45And I did wonder that maybe there was a point early on in that time last season
10:51where he thought, like, maybe I should have started putting a boot in the rear end sooner
10:55because maybe this would have gotten this ball rolling a lot quicker than it did.
10:59But, you know, I think right now we're at the point
11:00where everything's working out for a reason.
11:03And you see how it's working.
11:05And, you know, they've made some subtle changes to the lineups.
11:08I mean, it's not really subtle with the way a guy like Josh Doan plays.
11:12But, you know, you make these little changes
11:14and add these different guys in there.
11:16And suddenly it's like, okay, this is what he envisioned.
11:19This is what he, you know, what Lindy wants to see out of these guys.
11:22And you get the buy-in, too.
11:24Winning games helps.
11:25Like, if you're not winning games, nobody's going to buy in anything.
11:27We've seen that plenty.
11:29But the effort that's expended and the way that they're able to just frustrate teams
11:35by just getting right on top of them and just being relentless with it,
11:39it's a total throwback.
11:40It's a total throwback to, like, the 98, 99 teams.
11:44Now, granted, you know, they didn't have the offensive firepower this team does.
11:48But it's the same sort of, like, get-on-top-of-everybody kind of effort.
11:53And I think that's really a trademark of how Lindy's best teams have always played.
11:59Yeah, you hear every year – I've heard lots of guys who've played in the league
12:04say this, like – I think Alex Lyon said it earlier this year – every year in the
12:08offseason, 32 teams want to become harder to play against.
12:11Right?
12:12It is the hallmark, and there's a lot of different ways that that can be represented
12:17and come to fruition on the ice.
12:20But never giving up on plays is a great place to start.
12:24At any level of hockey, the most annoying guy is the guy that you beat, but then he's back.
12:29Like, wait, I thought I already stick-handled past you.
12:33Why are you nipping at my heels again?
12:35Because you didn't give up.
12:36You didn't glide back.
12:37You're coming back hard, and it's just great.
12:39Even Tage Thompson is holding down a center spot when it seemed, you know, last year
12:44and earlier this year, Lindy liked him on the wing, and I think that was all about defensive
12:49shortcomings.
12:50But Norris being out for as long as he was sort of forced their hand, and Kulik too,
12:55so you had to play Thompson there.
12:57And lo and behold, like, it's taken hold again, and you've got him back, I think, in a spot
13:02that he prefers, and to me, I don't think his defensive play has hurt them at all.
13:09No, and you could point out some pretty obvious situations early in the season where, you know,
13:15Tage may not have had, like, the best effort in defending or getting back in a play.
13:22I mean, sometimes it happens, like, I know there was a couple overtime games where it was
13:25like, oh, boy.
13:26There was a sequence in a game in Philadelphia that I remember tweeting, like, the pass,
13:34the outlet pass was bad.
13:35It hit him in the pants.
13:37It hit him in the back.
13:38But his effort, you know the play I'm talking about?
13:41Like, that, I quote tweeted that and said, like, Bill Guerin's friends are going to be
13:46sending him that about the Olympic team.
13:48I was like, dude, you're hurting yourself.
13:50You're really, you know, you're not doing yourself any favors here.
13:53But, yeah, I think that has changed, too.
13:58Yeah, and that's part of, like, the whole talk of, you know, the guys in the leadership
14:04group holding each other accountable because, you know, there was another game.
14:09I think it might have been one of the games in Boston, and it was like a 50-50 puck.
14:13It's 3-on-3 OT, and it's, you know, there's already two guys in the Sabres attacking in
14:22the one end, and it's a 50-50 puck, and Tage just kind of, like, skates up and throws a
14:28stick at it to try to keep it in the zone.
14:30And it jumps over his stick, and then suddenly it's a 2-on-1, 3-on-1 the other way,
14:35and
14:35Dahlian's just kind of holding the bag and trying to defend it, and, you know, that didn't
14:41go their way, and I, you know, I wonder if that's one of those games where it's, you
14:46know, Dahlian is just pulling them aside going, like, buddy, if you're going for that puck,
14:50you've got to get the puck.
14:52Yeah.
14:52And it's that kind of rededication to playing the right way.
14:57It's such a cliche, but, like, it's totally the right way where you're not taking a risk
15:02like that and leaving your teammates, you know, hung out to dry.
15:06It's, and it's getting back in plays, getting involved in these, in these different, you
15:11know, if a team's trying to break out the other way, it's hauling down ice and making
15:15sure you're getting, you know, get a stick in the way, do, you know, you know, whack
15:19them, you know, whack them from behind, but don't get a penalty.
15:21Like, whatever it takes to try to stop a play, they're doing it, and, I mean, we've seen
15:26Josh Doan do that all season.
15:28We're, you know, we saw Josh Norris do it against Tampa Bay, where, you know, he could have
15:32been coasting on having a couple of goals, but then he makes a great back check to break
15:36up a scoring opportunity, and it's like, oh, boy, they got, they were going to roll
15:40these guys tonight.
15:41Like, it was just that, that kind of effort in a game where you're already up by, like,
15:44three, four goals, and you're still seeing that, and it's like, oh, this team is definitely
15:49wired differently than, like, every other Sabres team we've watched for 15 years.
15:54Joe Yurden of Bleacher Report on the Sabres and NHL Beat on the Western Hotline for a few
15:58more minutes.
15:59All right, we already alluded to it.
16:00Um, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
16:04Um, and nothing's broke here, but I think there's a couple of areas that I think a lot
16:09of fans have identified.
16:11Um, what about you?
16:12As the trade deadline approaches on Friday, um, what do you think the Sabres are in the
16:18market for, if you know, or think they should be in the market for?
16:22Well, as far as what I know, uh, I know that Jarmo Kekalainen has, uh, has everybody's
16:28lip sealed.
16:30Because we used to get some, like, little whispers here and there.
16:34We're not getting any of that stuff now.
16:35So I think Jarmo, I think Jarmo's scared everybody into silence.
16:39So that's probably better as far as the Sabres are concerned.
16:42What I think they're going to look at, though, uh, is somebody for the third pair on defense.
16:48Um, it's not to take away anything from Zach Metz or, you know, Jacob Bryson, who was playing
16:53well for a bit before the break, but the last few games before the break were not great.
16:59Um, you know, Metz has looked very good all season, I, I think, but I think they want
17:03about, they want to make that third pair one where it's not just playing them for eight
17:08minutes a night.
17:09I think they want to give them a little bit more time just to kind of give that top four
17:13a break, um, because they've leaned on them very hard.
17:17And I mean, listen, those guys have responded.
17:19They've played great.
17:20Um, but I think you want to, you want to be better depth wise.
17:24And I think that means getting a lefty shot to go with Kesselring while Kesselring is,
17:29you know, trying to find his game still here.
17:31And, um, you know, he's been guilty of crimes of passion for trying to help trying too hard.
17:37But, um, but I think if you get somebody that can play on the left side and balance that
17:41out, I think you're, you're probably in a, in a much better place.
17:45Aside from that, I mean, I mean, geez, I don't know, maybe, maybe somebody for the bottom
17:49six, maybe you're looking at a, a forward there to kind of, again, add some depth.
17:55Yeah.
17:55I know, I know the pitchforks have been out for Jack Quinn for some time.
17:59I get it.
18:00I get it.
18:01Guilty.
18:01When he's, when he's, when he's hot and he's, and he's helping out offensively, he's really
18:07good.
18:07And when he does like, I mean, he loves that, that Jack's put the effort in.
18:10I think that's, that's a huge part.
18:12That is a huge part for why, um, he's, you know, that they've kept that line together
18:17and he's been getting, you know, those, that those minutes on the power play.
18:21I think there's a creativity in his game.
18:24I'd love to see him shoot way more.
18:26I think his shot's better than his passing, but, um, but he's been really good at, at
18:30setting up other guys throughout the year, but the defensive game needs work, which, you
18:36know, I'm sure that's probably making, you know, Lindy grind his teeth a little bit, but,
18:40um, but I mean, I mean, geez, if that's your biggest issue right now is, is what's happening
18:46with your third line right winger, uh, you're probably doing pretty well.
18:51And Hey, look, the Sabres are doing pretty well.
18:53Yep.
18:53Yeah.
18:54I mean, I, I'm not, I'm not, uh, anti take a big swing, but I mostly would like maybe,
19:01I don't know, a 28 or 30 year old version of Quinn, if I could replace him.
19:06And I might even pay the price of Quinn in that trade.
19:09If such a player is out there and the asking price makes sense, uh, because I do feel like,
19:16um, while I do think his offense, it has value, I I'm just not, he's, he's the one guy I
19:23feel
19:23like, I'm not sure I trust, uh, 200 feet, you know?
19:27So, uh, I land on that.
19:29Speaking of the defenseman addition, uh, Zach filled me in, I think just before you joined
19:34us, Joe, um, I'm not sure.
19:36Was this from Elliot Friedman, Zach?
19:37Is that without, yeah.
19:38Elliot Friedman reports that a, um, a, a slew of Sabre front office personnel led by Mark
19:45Bergevin is going to be in Toronto tonight to watch the wrist align in lead flyers against
19:52the Oliver Ekman, Larson led Maple Leafs, perhaps, um, a pair of teams.
19:57I mean, those are, those are weighty contracts, both of them.
19:59Um, so I'm not sure that there's a fit there and really neither of those guys have been a
20:06third pair guy in their career, but boy, if they could settle into that, I mean, that
20:10would be a real, real nice ad.
20:13Either one, I'd say, uh, for the role we're talking about, we know what wrist align his
20:17reputation was here as a top, you know, top pair guy, I think in a different role, maybe
20:23that could work, but I totally agree with you on some other piece there.
20:29Cause Kessler ring to me has just been so on and off with injuries, mostly off that I'm
20:35not sure I trust him.
20:36Um, you know, Mets has got incredible metrics, but I'm, I'm sure that they're sheltering
20:41him and that's gotta be helping that along to some extent.
20:44And, you know, you'll be sheltering whoever this is, you know, like.
20:47Again, wrist align and then third pair of minutes, you know, maybe that's a very different
20:50thing than when he was playing 24 minutes a night for you.
20:54Yeah.
20:54And seeing the way he played at the Olympics and basically ever since he's come back
20:58from that, that triceps surgery that he had, which was, I mean, just brutal.
21:02I talking to him the last time Philly was in town, um, he talks about how painful that
21:07was and how, you know, aggravating it was to sort through that.
21:10But I think he watching him play in the Olympics was at what this goes back to when he
21:17played here.
21:18We're like, man, you get that guy in the playoffs playing the way he does.
21:21You're, you're, you got a guy that you're like, okay, just keep them, you know, let
21:27them go out and hit guys play hard.
21:29And then, you know, maybe, maybe not have them out there in the high leverage situations.
21:33You'd probably have a really, you'd have a good time watching him just make other players
21:38miserable by, you know, killing them in the corners, crushing them on the wall and just
21:43being a, you know, big bear to deal with.
21:45Um, he'd be, it'd be a lot of fun and it would be a real great sweetheart story if he
21:51came back here.
21:52But I, but that's an awkward fit to me.
21:56Cause again, it's another righty, you know, another righty, righty, uh, you know, third
22:00pair.
22:00If it's him and Kesselring working together, I don't know if that necessarily works that
22:05great.
22:05I know, I think Ekman Larson's a lefty, um, you know, played on the, uh, the cup, you
22:11know, the, the Panthers cup winning team.
22:13So like there is some of that experience and like the guy's smooth with the puck.
22:17Um, he's just, he's just an older version of what he used to be.
22:21So he's not quite as quick, but he plays a little bit more edge.
22:24So like, that's good.
22:26Um, he'd be a great pickup.
22:27It's just, I don't know that the Leafs, I don't know.
22:30The Leafs certainly did a lot to, uh, or no, I'm thinking of the Bruins helping out everybody
22:34in the division last year.
22:36The Leafs tried to benefit from that with Brandon Carlo coming in, but that hasn't worked out
22:40either.
22:41No, that's like a lottery pick now, which is awfully tough.
22:45I mean, not to be crying tears for Toronto, but yeah.
22:49Right.
22:50Well, it's, um, but yeah, this is, yeah, I, I mean, I, I think a defenseman almost seems
22:57like an automatic kind of move, but there's so few teams that are actually saying they're
23:01selling everybody else's is wants to buy.
23:04So like, you know, what's the cost going to be?
23:06Right.
23:07The, the, the, the, the thing that's undeniable, Joe, is that those top four on this team and
23:12we'll wrap it up here.
23:13I mean, the, the way that power Byram, Darlene and Samuelson just dominate games to me is absolutely
23:21this team's superpower.
23:23It is a joy to watch, um, those four guys all over the ice.
23:29Yeah, it's, it's honestly, and it's to me, that's my favorite part of like, what's kind
23:35of helped this team unlock itself this year is watching all four of them, like hit, hit
23:41their stride, like simultaneously.
23:42Like Darlene's been doing it for a few years, Samuelson, everybody was getting really frustrated
23:47with, and then now he's like God on the blue line.
23:51And you're like, well, where did this guy come from?
23:52Um, and Byram and power, like power still has fans grumping at him.
23:57This dude's defensive metrics are out of this world.
24:01Good.
24:01And like, people still want him to go, you know, drill guys into the wall.
24:04And it's like, he doesn't need to, like, he's already denying them at the blue line and
24:09they can't get around him.
24:11So, you know, like take him, take him for what he is.
24:15And, you know, the offense starts falling behind and boy, oh boy, you're talking 45 minutes
24:20of your game, maybe even 50 minutes of your game, taking up with, you know, two of those
24:24four on the ice at all times.
24:25It really is.
24:26Uh, it's a, it's a lot of fun.
24:28Should be a fun week here, Joe, and an interesting spring to say the least.
24:32Let's hope this isn't the last time we, uh, call on you to join us on our show.
24:37Cause I really enjoyed catching up and it's good to have, you know, for the first time
24:40since we've known each other, um, you know, a good team to talk about, which is awesome.
24:45Yeah.
24:46Yeah.
24:46Meaningful games in March and it's not sarcastic.
24:49Isn't that beautiful?
24:49Go figure.
24:50All right, Joe.
24:51Enjoyed it very much, man.
24:52Be well and keep up the good work.
24:54Thanks, Chris.
24:55Great to talk to you.
24:56That's our dude, Joe Yurden from Bleacher Report.
24:58Long time on the Sabres beat and the NHL beat.
25:01Uh, getting in on, uh, getting in on this year's Sabres a few days in advance of the trade deadline.
25:09We'll talk more about how your hockey watching, your Sabres habit has changed here in the last
25:17few weeks or months with the Sabres resurgence here.
25:20You had a really, a lot of good input, uh, on Twitter today, but your calls are certainly
25:25welcome.
25:25You want to talk about things you're doing differently now, welcoming back the Sabres into
25:30your lives.
25:31Uh, it's really, uh, didn't see it coming, but here we are and it is awesome.
25:368.03.
25:36Oh.
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